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1. 08:49 AM - Re: True airspeed indicator!! (Gary Gower)
2. 11:46 AM - Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Bima, Martin)
3. 11:48 AM - CH-701 builders fliers (Michael Heit)
4. 12:00 PM - Re: One thing I won't change on my 601.... the control stick (Carlos Sa)
5. 12:46 PM - Discovery Wings (Clyde Barcus)
6. 02:03 PM - Just a test Post (Dave & Darlene)
7. 02:34 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Keith Ashcraft)
8. 03:14 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Lance Gingell)
9. 03:15 PM - Re: One thing I won't change on my 601.... the control stick (Michel Therrien)
10. 03:35 PM - Re: Just a test Post (Cdngoose)
11. 04:04 PM - Re: Home Depot brake (Tommy Clark)
12. 04:37 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Alejandro Roca)
13. 05:41 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Stephen R. Look)
14. 06:09 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Jim Pellien)
15. 06:44 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Steve Mallinson)
16. 07:06 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Stephen R. Look)
17. 07:08 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Larry Martin)
18. 07:22 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Dave Austin)
19. 08:51 PM - Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... (Steve Mallinson)
20. 09:45 PM - Re: One thing I won't change on my 601.... the control stick (Gary Gower)
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Subject: | Re: True airspeed indicator!! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy
At 03:59 PM 1/17/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>true airspeed indicator
True Airspeed is equivalent airspeed corrected for temperature and pressure
altitude. At speeds below 200 knots, true airspeed can be found by
correcting calibrated airspeed for temperature and pressure altitude. A
rule of thumb is: True airspeed is 2% more than calibrated airspeed per
1,000 feet altitude above sea level.
If a true airspeed indicator is installed, it is equipped with a rotatable
ring which works in conjunction with the airspeed indicator dial in a
manner similar to the operation of a flight computer. To operate the
indicator, first rotate the ring until pressure altitude is aligned with
outside air temperature in degrees Fahrenheit. Pressure altitude should not
be confused with indicated altitude. To obtain pressure altitude,
momentarily set the barometric scale on the altimeter to 29.92 and read
pressure altitude on the altimeter. Be sure to return the altimeter baromet
ric scale to the original barometric setting after pressure altitude has
been obtained. Having set the ring to correct for altitude and temperature,
read the true airspeed shown on the rotatable ring by the indicator
pointer. For best accuracy, the indicated airspeed should be corrected to
calibrated airspeed by referring to the Airspeed Calibration chart in
Section 5. Knowing the calibrated airspeed, read true airspeed on the ring
opposite the calibrated airspeed.
copied ad pasted from webpages cause it easier than typing.
Jim Pollard
Merlin Ont
Jim,
The dificult part is not typing, is understanding it :-) :-)
Thanks for the post, very good finding and well explained.
Saludos
Gary Gower
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Subject: | Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
For those of you who subscribe to Discovery Wings Channel...
Is this all military? I see enough of that on the news.
Is there any civil/experimental aviation discussed on this channel?
Thanks,
Martin
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Subject: | CH-701 builders fliers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Heit <rmrlpfm@centurytel.net>
Are there any CH-701 builders / fliers on this list? I am in the process
of purchasing a CH-701 and would like to contact those individuals off
list [to save bandwidth] about flying the 701. Thanks very much.
Mike Heit
rmrlpfm@centurytel.net
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Subject: | Re: One thing I won't change on my 601.... the control stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
hi, Michel
How do you handle the instruments to your right? (Switches and stuff on the centre
console,
transponder, etc. - everything on the centre and right side of the instrument panel).
Also, how do you take notes? (During your x-country, for instance)
Pictures of you at work show you are right-handed...
Regards
Carlos
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> On the other hand, the Y control stick is very
> comfortable. It is a natural position for the grip
> and during level flight, I often just rest my wrist at
> the bottom of the Y.
>
> So... it seems I made it modular for nothing and I'll
> keep it like this!
>
> Michel
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net>
Martin
I have not seen anything but military since the change on the 10th. Personally
I am disappointed, I really the enjoyed "From the ground up."
Matronics and programs like wings have been a great source of tips and encouragement
while I am building my 601XL.
Clyde Barcus
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Subject: | Just a test Post |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Just a test post
Dave
Alberta
www.borrowmyhusband.com/Nimigon_601XL
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Subject: | Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
Hello Martin,
They used to carry a series on Friday nights, and Saturadays of the
following
A Plane is Born -- (building an Europa) -- http://www.aplaneisborn.com/
this also gives you links to some others
A Chopper is Born -- (building a Exec 162) --
From the Ground-Up -- (building an RV-8)
Learning to Fly -- (a student learning to fly)
My wife liked the Learning to Fly series, as she was amazed about all
the things you have to stay on top of, during flying. But like anything,
that comes with practice!!
I don't know when they are going to change them. (after looking at the
web site) It looks like theys (discoverywings.com) has changed to all
military.
I'll have to check into it more.
Keith
CH701
N 38.9947
W 105.1305
Alt. 9,100'
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Bima, Martin wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
>For those of you who subscribe to Discovery Wings Channel...
>
>Is this all military? I see enough of that on the news.
>
>Is there any civil/experimental aviation discussed on this channel?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Martin
>
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
It recently got renamed the "Military Channel" accoring to an EAA story
I read. What a shame :-(
http://members.eaa.org/home/ehotline/041203.html
Goodbye, D-Wings; Hello, Military Channel
Aviation enthusiasts who regularly tune into the Discovery Wings channel
will no longer be able to do so after January 10, 2005. That's when
Discovery Communications says it will transition to a new format, The
Military Channel, on digital cable TV systems. The new format will offer
"a broad focus on all aspects of the military, with a wide array of
programming about its people, strategy, technology and history,"
Discovery says. "While Discovery Wings Channel focused exclusively on
aviation, the Military Channel will feature a dramatically broadened
programming mission." The network's revamped slate of series and
specials is designed to take viewers "behind the lines" to tell the
personal stories of servicemen and women and offer in-depth explorations
of military technology, battlefield strategy, aviation, and history. For
more information, visit the Discovery Wings website.
..lance
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bima,
Martin
Subject: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
For those of you who subscribe to Discovery Wings Channel...
Is this all military? I see enough of that on the news.
Is there any civil/experimental aviation discussed on this channel?
Thanks,
Martin
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: One thing I won't change on my 601.... the control stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Hi Carlos!
Ah ah! Fun questions!
The first time I boarded the plane with my instructor,
I thought I would impress him with my Navaid Autopilot
and its wing leveler feature. He showed me how this
planes already flies hands free.
This said, it is easy to control the plane with feet
alone and look at the maps, take notes and operate
whatever needs to be operated. While the elevator
trim is pretty sensitive, I have not much difficulty
setting it for climb, cruise and descent. When I went
to Sherbrooke, I cruised for quite a while hands free,
sometimes playing with maps and CFS and tracking
flight progress on my pad, sometimes, just relaxing
and enjoying the scenery. I don't know if this is
true for the HDS, but the HD was refered as being
stable by my instructor.
You want to buy an autopilot? I may have one for
sale!
Michel
PS: If you want to join me one day at SB3, consider
yourself invited!
--- Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa
> <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> hi, Michel
>
>
> How do you handle the instruments to your right?
> (Switches and stuff on the centre console,
> transponder, etc. - everything on the centre and
> right side of the instrument panel).
>
> Also, how do you take notes? (During your x-country,
> for instance)
> Pictures of you at work show you are right-handed...
>
>
> Regards
>
> Carlos
> do not archive
>
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Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
__________________________________
http://my.yahoo.com
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Subject: | Just a test Post |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Test confirmed
Do not archive
Mark Townsend
Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL EJ 2.2L
Osprey 2 serial # 751
www.ch601.org
www.Osprey2.com
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave &
Darlene
Subject: Zenith-List: Just a test Post
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
<dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Just a test post
Dave
Alberta
www.borrowmyhusband.com/Nimigon_601XL
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Subject: | Re: Home Depot brake |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Clark" <tclark955@charter.net>
Thanks Randy. I'm also building from plans and have been looking for
someone with experience with those brakes. I'm looking forward to trying
it.
Thanks again,
Tommy Clark
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From: "Randy L. Thwing" <n4546v@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Home Depot brake
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy L. Thwing"
> <n4546v@mindspring.com>
>
> For info on using these brakes for AC building, search the archives using
> the search term "tapco".
> Regards,
> Randy L. Thwing, 701 plans do not archive
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>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Home Depot brake
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Subject: | Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Alejandro Roca <alex_roca@mac.com>
I am glad I am not the only one out there that is disappointed. I have gone
to the extent of calling my cable company to complain. The change in line up
has come from Discovery. If it were to me, I would have left the Wings channel
by itself and added a new one (for the Military Channel). I have the number
for Discovery customer relations if anyone wants to complain. I sure did !!!
Zodiac XL / Jabiru 3300
Just got my airworthiness certificate !!
On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 02:09PM, Bima, Martin <mbima@hydro.mb.ca> wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
>For those of you who subscribe to Discovery Wings Channel...
>
>Is this all military? I see enough of that on the news.
>
>Is there any civil/experimental aviation discussed on this channel?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>Martin
>
>
>do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen R. Look" <slook@mchsi.com>
I sent an email today. I thought they were going to keep some of the Wings
programming but it sure doesn't look like it on their schedule. I'm not
happy...
Steve
At 06:36 PM 1/18/2005, you wrote:
> I have the number for Discovery customer relations if anyone wants to
> complain. I sure did !!!
Steve Look
Monticello, IL
601XL, rudder
"Dogs have owners, Cats have staff"
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Subject: | Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Steve,
Please post the Discovery Public Relations phone number. I'd like to
call them to complain. Also if you have it their EMAIL address as well.
Thanks,
Jim Pellien
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R.
Look
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen R. Look" <slook@mchsi.com>
I sent an email today. I thought they were going to keep some of the
Wings
programming but it sure doesn't look like it on their schedule. I'm not
happy...
Steve
At 06:36 PM 1/18/2005, you wrote:
> I have the number for Discovery customer relations if anyone wants to
> complain. I sure did !!!
Steve Look
Monticello, IL
601XL, rudder
"Dogs have owners, Cats have staff"
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Subject: | Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Mallinson" <mallinson2501@rogers.com>
There is nothing gained by complaining. Vote with your wallet. Cancel the
channel. I did Jan.9th.
Steve
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Steve,
Please post the Discovery Public Relations phone number. I'd like to call
them to complain. Also if you have it their EMAIL address as well.
Thanks,
Jim Pellien
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephen R.
Look
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen R. Look" <slook@mchsi.com>
I sent an email today. I thought they were going to keep some of the Wings
programming but it sure doesn't look like it on their schedule. I'm not
happy...
Steve
At 06:36 PM 1/18/2005, you wrote:
> I have the number for Discovery customer relations if anyone wants to
> complain. I sure did !!!
Steve Look
Monticello, IL
601XL, rudder
"Dogs have owners, Cats have staff"
advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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Subject: | Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Stephen R. Look" <slook@mchsi.com>
I didn't find a phone number but here's a link to fuss at them:
http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations
At 08:08 PM 1/18/2005, you wrote:
>Please post the Discovery Public Relations phone number. I'd like to
>call them to complain. Also if you have it their EMAIL address as well.
Steve Look
Monticello, IL
601XL rudder
"Dogs have owners, Cats have staff"
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Subject: | Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
I watched it today. A lot of the same old stories. Not much changed except
they added a few military stories. I watched aircraft stuff today. There
is very seldom anything new, just repeat after repeat. Larry N1345L
Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell"
<lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
>
> It recently got renamed the "Military Channel" accoring to an EAA story
> I read. What a shame :-(
>
> http://members.eaa.org/home/ehotline/041203.html
>
> Goodbye, D-Wings; Hello, Military Channel
> Aviation enthusiasts who regularly tune into the Discovery Wings channel
> will no longer be able to do so after January 10, 2005. That's when
> Discovery Communications says it will transition to a new format, The
> Military Channel, on digital cable TV systems. The new format will offer
> "a broad focus on all aspects of the military, with a wide array of
> programming about its people, strategy, technology and history,"
> Discovery says. "While Discovery Wings Channel focused exclusively on
> aviation, the Military Channel will feature a dramatically broadened
> programming mission." The network's revamped slate of series and
> specials is designed to take viewers "behind the lines" to tell the
> personal stories of servicemen and women and offer in-depth explorations
> of military technology, battlefield strategy, aviation, and history. For
> more information, visit the Discovery Wings website.
>
> ..lance
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bima,
> Martin
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
> For those of you who subscribe to Discovery Wings Channel...
>
> Is this all military? I see enough of that on the news.
>
> Is there any civil/experimental aviation discussed on this channel?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Martin
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
Hey Folks,
Let's at least put "do not archive" on these off-topic msgs.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
do not archive
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Subject: | Off-topic - Discovery Wings.... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Steve Mallinson" <mallinson2501@rogers.com>
Oops!! Apologies!! Never occurred to me that it would be archived...
do not archive !!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Austin
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off-topic - Discovery Wings....
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
Hey Folks,
Let's at least put "do not archive" on these off-topic msgs.
Dave Austin 601HDS - 912
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: One thing I won't change on my 601.... the control stick |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Just trim the plane... is like with your car (or easyer) How do you change stations
in your car radio? or Answer the cel phone? Or get romantic with
your girl friend? while driving...
The only point where probably will not aply is in heavy turbulence, but then you
will be to busy to take notes... is like driving at high speed in a heavy curved
road :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower
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Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa
hi, Michel
How do you handle the instruments to your right? (Switches and stuff on the centre
console,
transponder, etc. - everything on the centre and right side of the instrument panel).
Also, how do you take notes? (During your x-country, for instance)
Pictures of you at work show you are right-handed...
Regards
Carlos
do not archive
> On the other hand, the Y control stick is very
> comfortable. It is a natural position for the grip
> and during level flight, I often just rest my wrist at
> the bottom of the Y.
>
> So... it seems I made it modular for nothing and I'll
> keep it like this!
>
> Michel
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