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     1. 05:55 AM - Re: dent in skin repair? (Rick Audy)
     2. 07:43 AM - Re: dent in skin repair? (Keith Ashcraft)
     3. 08:26 AM - Re: dent in skin repair? (VideoFlyer@aol.com)
     4. 09:43 AM - Re: dent in skin repair? (Lance Gingell)
     5. 10:18 AM - trade 601 plans for 701 plans? (Sigma Eta Aero)
     6. 10:55 AM - Re: dent in skin repair? (Gary Gower)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: dent in skin repair? | 
      Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 28 Jan 2005 08:53:49 -0500
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Audy" <rickaudy@msn.com>
      
      Hello, I know we are talking different metals as well as thickness but I believe
      the following should work if a light hand and proper caution is used.  Dry ice
      is frequently used to take out dents in cars in tornado alley, it does so without
      even damaging paint most times.  I have never done it but I understand
      that you wrap it in rags as it does not have to be very cold to work.  I'm told
      light brief contact repeated until the skin is cold enough to contract is the
      proper method.  I do not imagine that brief exposure to even extreme cold would
      over stress or change the temper of the metal.  As always, gloves, safety
      glasses and thermal protection of exposed skin is a must.  Maybe someone could
      experiment on a waste piece to see what happens.
      Hope this helps, let us know if it works.  Good luck, Rick
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Joe Nance<mailto:joe@cloudstreet.net>
        To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
        Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2005 23:59
        Subject: Zenith-List: dent in skin repair?
      
      
        --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joe Nance <joe@cloudstreet.net<mailto:joe@cloudstreet.net>>
      
        Hello to those on this list.  I am a new builder of a 701 and have now made my
      first mistake!  In wraping the stabalizer skin around the nose ribs I created
      a small dent right at the tip of the rib.  The dent is aprox. 3/4 inch long.
      It's not too bad but I'd like to fix it better than I have.  Does anyone have
      any tips on pushing out small dents in the aluminum skin?
      
        Thanks!
        Joe Nance
        joe@cloudstreet.net<mailto:joe@cloudstreet.net>
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: dent in skin repair? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft@itt.com>
      
      
      Hey Joe,
      Try using a large magnet and a 1" steel ball bearing. Put the ball 
      inside the curve and use the magnet on the outside of the skin. I saw a 
      video from a past Zenith-list message that showed a guy using this setup 
      to remove dents from a Saxophone and it worked wonders. I will try to 
      see if I can find the link, or you can check some of the archives.
      
      Keith
      CH701 (still building)
      
      ***************************************************************************
      
      Joe Nance wrote:
      
      >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joe Nance <joe@cloudstreet.net>
      >
      >Hello to those on this list.  I am a new builder of a 701 and have now made my
      first mistake!  In wraping the stabalizer skin around the nose ribs I created
      a small dent right at the tip of the rib.  The dent is aprox. 3/4 inch long.
      It's not too bad but I'd like to fix it better than I have.  Does anyone have
      any tips on pushing out small dents in the aluminum skin?
      >
      >Thanks!
      >Joe Nance
      >joe@cloudstreet.net
      >
      >
      >  
      >
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: dent in skin repair? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: VideoFlyer@aol.com
      
      I have had reasonable success using the "spoon method"...but there are a 
      couple of tips to make it work better.  First of all, you MUST have a smooth, HARD
      
      surface underneath the aluminum sheet.  I use a piece of 1/2 inch thick 
      aluminum.  It doesn't have to be large...just large enough to accomodate the area
      
      of the dent....but bigger is better, just to keep it solid and level.  Place 
      the dent over the HARD work surface and support it properly.  A spoon works 
      well, but any smooth, rounded tool would work, I suppose.  Use a few drops of oil
      
      on the dent to keep the friction (scuffing) low.  Work the spoon by rolling it
      
      around on the dent.  Try not to slide the spoon over the surface..just roll 
      it.  I have had very good luck using this method.  You can frequently see where
      
      the dent used to be because the surface will become a little scuffed in the 
      process.  But it can be polished out or painted over.  
      
      My two cents worth.
      
      Dave Harms
      601XL  -  Corvair
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | dent in skin repair? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
      
      
      Joe,
      
      I had *exactly* the same problem (but I'm not sure how it happened).  I
      tried a few things. The one that worked best was to round off a piece of
      2 x 4, but it inside the bend. Then tap the creased edges of the dent
      with a plastic mallet lightly, while pushing the wood against it at the
      back. In the words of the advice I got on this list 'go slowly and be
      patient'. It took a few minutes, but worked wonders.
      
      Search the archives for "leading & edge & dent" or " "leading & edge &
      crease". My log is at http://lancegingell/plane.asp I think there's a
      picture somewhere around 8/22/2004.
      
      Good luck!
      
      ..lance
      601XL on fuse.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Nance
      Subject: Zenith-List: dent in skin repair?
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joe Nance <joe@cloudstreet.net>
      
      Hello to those on this list.  I am a new builder of a 701 and have now
      made my first mistake!  In wraping the stabalizer skin around the nose
      ribs I created a small dent right at the tip of the rib.  The dent is
      aprox. 3/4 inch long. It's not too bad but I'd like to fix it better
      than I have.  Does anyone have any tips on pushing out small dents in
      the aluminum skin?
      
      Thanks!
      Joe Nance
      joe@cloudstreet.net
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | trade 601 plans for 701 plans? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigma Eta Aero <sigmatero@yahoo.com>
      
      I have an original serialized set of CH-601HD CAD (not hand-drawn) 
      plans that I would like to trade straight across for an original set of 
      CH-701 CAD (not hand-drawn) plans.  Must be originals with original 
      serial number and not a copy.
      
       Anybody want to swap?  Thanks folks!
      
      Joa
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | dent in skin repair? | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
      
      In the process of building our 701, me made a couple of tiny dents, hard to see,
      only by the "Hangar Experts"...  
      
      Larry was very upset every time they point them, until I found how to make them
      disapear...    "The one that finds a dent, will not get a ride in the plane"
        works great,  the plane is now perfect  :-)  :-)  :-)
      
      Saludos
      
      Gary Gower
      Do not Archive.
      
      
      Lance Gingell <lgingell@matrix-logic.com> wrote:
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" 
      
      
      Joe,
      
      I had *exactly* the same problem (but I'm not sure how it happened). I
      tried a few things. The one that worked best was to round off a piece of
      2 x 4, but it inside the bend. Then tap the creased edges of the dent
      with a plastic mallet lightly, while pushing the wood against it at the
      back. In the words of the advice I got on this list 'go slowly and be
      patient'. It took a few minutes, but worked wonders.
      
      Search the archives for "leading & edge & dent" or " "leading & edge &
      crease". My log is at http://lancegingell/plane.asp I think there's a
      picture somewhere around 8/22/2004.
      
      Good luck!
      
      ..lance
      601XL on fuse.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Joe Nance
      Subject: Zenith-List: dent in skin repair?
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joe Nance 
      
      Hello to those on this list. I am a new builder of a 701 and have now
      made my first mistake! In wraping the stabalizer skin around the nose
      ribs I created a small dent right at the tip of the rib. The dent is
      aprox. 3/4 inch long. It's not too bad but I'd like to fix it better
      than I have. Does anyone have any tips on pushing out small dents in
      the aluminum skin?
      
      Thanks!
      Joe Nance
      joe@cloudstreet.net
      
      
                      
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