Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sat 01/29/05


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 10:13 AM - Re: Low Wing Plumbing Solved..... (Gary A. Boothe)
     2. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Fuel selector valve placement ()
     3. 11:17 AM - Re: cont 0200 (Clive Richards)
     4. 01:13 PM - falcon compass (Jack Russell)
     5. 02:02 PM - Wheel pants needed. (gpjann@juno.com)
     6. 03:19 PM - Re: falcon compass (george may)
     7. 03:22 PM - Dent repair (Joe Nance)
     8. 03:41 PM - Re: Wheel pants needed. (ron dewees)
     9. 09:24 PM - Sportsplanes 601XL sLSA program? (High Bidder)
    10. 10:13 PM - Re: dent in skin repair? (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
    11. 11:28 PM - Zodiac questions (upnaway.1@netzero.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:13:18 AM PST US
    From: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
    Subject: Re: Low Wing Plumbing Solved.....
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com> Zed, My Dad was once given an award from his EAA chapter for "Resourcefulness Under Pressure." The award consisted of a bronzed boot on a walnut stand. You guessed it; while we were x-country in our T-craft, after too many cups of morning coffee waiting for the fog to lift, he removed his boot, made good use of it, and poured it out the window. He never let me forget that I had great trouble keeping straight and level while he was in the process! I was just testing his aim ...... Gary Boothe <gboothe@calply.com> WW Corvair Power - 601HDS Rudder complete. Hori.Stab. 50% > on pain of injury, DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >


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    Time: 11:16:29 AM PST US
    From: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: RE: Fuel selector valve placement
    Seal-Send-Time: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:12:26 -0600 --> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com> Frank, I think the reason that paper filters are said to be a no-no is the possibility of water turning them into mush, and then clogging the fuel line. It's sort of along the line of assuring your fuel flows from inside the filter element to outside, so pressure (or evil spirits) can't collapse the filter element, thereby leading to starvation. Personally, I have never heard of either situation occurring, but my natural paranoia will lead me towards a non-paper fuel filter when the time comes. Paul Rodriguez 601XL Corvair Still (sigh) working on forward fuselage ----- Original Message ----- From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com> To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 7:31 PM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: RE: Fuel selector valve placement --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>> Indeed Roy...:) Now tell me why we don't like paper elements..Today was the first time I have actually heard of a concern with these...Time to change mine anyway...:) Thanks Frank P.s Roy you already did fly with me...I thought it was just my crappy seats you didn't like?.......:) Frank probably would not fly with me since my plane will vapor lock one day. I know others who would not fly in Franks plane because it has a paper fuel filter. Ahh, the joys of experimental aircraft. Regards, Roy N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 318.1hrs, 405 landings


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    Time: 11:17:55 AM PST US
    From: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: cont 0200
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk> Hi Dee Ray Lasnier has installed a 0200 but was only able to get a drawing of the engine mount from Zenith as it is the same as the XL. He has had to have the mount made & has also had to make a cowling. If you are in the UK he has a JIG for making the engine mount. We hope to run the engine in next few weeks. & then remove engine before moving plane to airfield hanger for final reasembly and inspection. Will post information on performance when flying. Clive Richards for Ray Lasnier 601HD G-CBDG do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dee Callicoat" <flier53@hotmail.com> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dee Callicoat" <flier53@hotmail.com> > > Hi everyone, i would like info on installing cont. 0200 on a zenith 601 > hds. . is there a firewall > forward kit available? How does performance campare with rotax 912. Thanks > and CAVU to all. > Dee > >


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    Time: 01:13:26 PM PST US
    From: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: falcon compass
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> Boy, this is a slow day on posts. I installed a falcon flat card compass and I don't have any instructions. I did find instructions for swinging a compass on the internet but I don't know which screw on the compass is north/south or east/west. Can someone tell me which screw is north and which is the east? I have yellow and blue. Thanks Jack in Clovis CA


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    Time: 02:02:06 PM PST US
    Subject: Wheel pants needed.
    From: gpjann@juno.com
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com Anyone have wheel pants for 601 for sell? gpjann@juno.com 770-277-1637


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    Time: 03:19:03 PM PST US
    From: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
    Subject: falcon compass
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com> Jack-- Just dug out my instructions from the compass I installed on my Kitfox about 3 years ago. According to that information the LH (lefthand) adjusting screw is for N-S and the RH (right hand) screw is for E-W If you need more on what to do for the adjustments let me know and I'll type up the page of instructions. George May >From: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: falcon compass >Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:10:13 -0800 (PST) > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> > >Boy, this is a slow day on posts. I installed a falcon flat card compass >and I don't have any instructions. I did find instructions for swinging a >compass on the internet but I don't know which screw on the compass is >north/south or east/west. Can someone tell me which screw is north and >which is the east? I have yellow and blue. Thanks Jack in Clovis CA > >


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    Time: 03:22:45 PM PST US
    From: Joe Nance <joe@cloudstreet.net>
    Subject: Dent repair
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joe Nance <joe@cloudstreet.net> Thanks to all for the great advice on dent repair! I will digest the info and give it a try. I'll let you know which method(s) I use and how it comes out. See Ya, Joe Nance joe@cloudstreet.net 970-213-0331


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    Time: 03:41:57 PM PST US
    From: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: Wheel pants needed.
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com> Hi Greg, I have at least one extra one I'll give you. I haven't decided whether I will use the other ones on my bird or not. I have a couple of Cessnoid paints that I like better, but haven't even started working out mounting problems. I'm really enjoying flying N601TD and am up to 7 hours now. The oil temps have been very high till the last couple of hours but are starting down. I hear it might take up to 15 hours. At least I can stay up for more than 20 minutes at a time now. Got an hour of time in on Friday and oil is ok if I keep it under 2300 rpm. I can't start flight testing till I can run the motor up to higher rpms but can tell that stall is less than 50 mph IAS and best climb so far is 1600 fpm. I want to put some 100LL in the tanks to see if it helps the cooling problems. Hope I'll feel good enough to fly it to Pancake Breakfast next weekend. BTW-- The ice collapsed one hangar at Lenora today and all others including mine are bowing under the snow and ice loads. Mike moved my Zenair into his hangar after a C172 was totaled by a falling hangar. Here's hoping it doesn't snow any more tonight. Ron gpjann@juno.com wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com > >Anyone have wheel pants for 601 for sell? > >gpjann@juno.com >770-277-1637 > > > >


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    Time: 09:24:21 PM PST US
    From: High Bidder <high_bidr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Sportsplanes 601XL sLSA program?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: High Bidder <high_bidr@yahoo.com> I am building a 601XL which when completed (2-3-4 yrs from now?) will be WW Corvair powered and will use the latest GRT or similar "glass cockpit" type instrumentation that I can afford. But in the meantime I am NOT flying!!! I looked at the Sportsplanes.com website and found they have a local "Regional Center" in my city (Spokane, WA). One of their suggestions is I buy a sLSA (Special LSA) 601XL Zodiac that is to be built in GA, and lease it back to them for use as a training plane. In theory, the income stream is supposed to pay for my purchase, financing, insurance, maintenance, etc. and may leave enough left over for my flight training from them. This is somewhat attractive (except for the $75K+ price tag), but if I buy a SLSA plane, can I then in the future, after I take it off lease for my exclusive private use, do the maintenance and equipment upgrades myself? I know I would at least have to take the 16 hour course to do maintenance, but would I need to take the 120 hour course too? Or is that extra training needed only if I want to keep leasing the plane for training rental? Anyone else looked in detail at this type of program, with Sportsplanes or another company? Pros - cons? Alan Lovchik 601XL tailfeathers done, working on wings Corvair engine in a basket __________________________________


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    Time: 10:13:23 PM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: dent in skin repair?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Joe, sorry to hear about your dent. My XL sustained a couple dents from drunken helpers. I tried to push out, but once aluminum is stretched it is almost impossible. My fix was after the epoxy primer was shot I filled them with Bondo, feather sanded them out and re-primed the place. No dents. I tried the Feather-Lite product sold by Spruce, but it would never set up or sand out correctly, Best of Luck, Bill of Georgia


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    Time: 11:28:08 PM PST US
    From: "upnaway.1@netzero.com" <upnaway.1@netzero.com>
    Subject: Zodiac questions
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "upnaway.1@netzero.com" <upnaway.1@netzero.com> I got the Zenith info pack in the mail yesterday. I have to say that I was very impressed. All of my other "finalists" sent me packages ranging from "so-so" to utterly pathetic. I thought I had narrowed it down to the XL or a certain tube and fabric high wing that you all would know. Well after receiving the single page brochure with terrible picture quality, no information, and an order form for that aircraft, I read a letter to the editor in a magazine saying that the company had shorted him an engine for years. I went to that "other company's" website and after seeing it I am leaning more toward the 601XL. I can't find anybody that wants to trash Zenith. That tells me they must be pretty good at service. Am I correct in assuming this? I do have some questions about the heavy left wing, c.g., and empty weight. 1. What is with the heavy left wing? Is this all light aircraft, or just Zodiacs? I learned in a Warrior and never noticed a heavy left wing. 2. I weigh 250 lbs. I am down from 280 and want to get to 200, but suppose I don't. If I load my flab and another heavyweight like me, I should have 100lbs available for fuel (according to Zenith), or will I have the plane so far out of c.g. range as I burn fuel from the leading edge of the wing that it would be a safety hazard? 3. And finally, how likely is it that I come up with a 700lb airplane? I have seen so many airplanes in the builder completion sections of websites and magazines that weigh up to 200lbs heavier than the company says it should. Now I understand that no 2 planes are going to weigh the same. I can see differences like that if a company is using a 912S and the builder hangs an I0-240 on his plane, but some of these are using the same engines. I would like the 912S, or the Jab 3300, no gyro panel, a GPS, and dual sticks. I would like a pretty nice interior, but do not know about the weight penalty. I always wanted to build a high wing 2 seater as my fir st airplane ride was in a '46 Cessna 140, and I'd rather build a new classic looking plane that will out perform a 140 cheaper. Now after looking at the XL, I am reminded of the Globe Swift that my grandmother owned in the 50's. I never flew in her plane, as it and my grandmothers license were long gone by the time of my arrival. I sure love those pictures, though. It seems to me a Zodiac could be as much fun as a Swift or an RV at a really reduced price. Any help on answering these questions would be great. By the way, it was nice to see builders whose planes, faces and names I recognized from this site and Zenith's site on the DVD. I've watched until my wife can't stand it. The info pack was well worth my money. I cannot find another company with the same thing, period. It did a lot to sway me toward the XL. Sorry for the long post, but once I get going on airplanes.......... Thanks, Nate in Ok.




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