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     1. 04:03 AM - Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight (Michel Therrien)
     2. 04:03 AM - Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight (Michel Therrien)
     3. 04:03 AM - Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight (Michel Therrien)
     4. 04:08 AM - Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight (Michel Therrien)
     5. 06:39 AM - Life Insurance - Another note... (Bima, Martin)
     6. 09:09 AM - life insurance (Vann Covington)
     7. 09:37 AM - Re: life insurance (Jon Croke)
     8. 10:58 AM - Canadian builder question (Paul Riedlinger)
     9. 11:28 AM - Re: life insurance (kobo1)
    10. 12:28 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Dan Knezacek)
    11. 12:41 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Dan Knezacek)
    12. 01:20 PM - Re: Canadian builder question (Frank Jones)
    13. 02:06 PM - Re:601 fuel cap leaks (ron dewees)
    14. 02:21 PM - brakes (alex trent)
    15. 02:42 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Larry McFarland)
    16. 02:57 PM - Re: Re:601 fuel cap leaks (Larry McFarland)
    17. 04:10 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Bob Miller)
    18. 04:46 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD ()
    19. 05:51 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Larry McFarland)
    20. 06:31 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
    21. 07:09 PM - Re: brakes (Brandon Tucker)
    22. 07:30 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (cgalley)
    23. 08:01 PM - Re: Wheels on 601 HD (Dave)
    24. 10:34 PM - Re: Re:601 fuel cap leaks (Bryan Martin)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
      
      In Canada, I purchased life insurance through COPA. 
      The fun part is that it did'nt cost me anything.
      
      What I mean is that I reduced the coverage of my
      employer's collective life insurance.  The reduction
      in contribution to the employer's program was nearly
      enough to pay for the COPA life insurance.
      
      Does AOPA have a similar program?
      
      Michel
      
      --- Richard Hutson <rhutson@MIDSOUTH.RR.COM> wrote:
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
      > <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
      > 
      > For life insurnace check this web site 
      > http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/piclife/biz. this is
      > from AVflash's busniness 
      > site
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Monty Graves" <mgraves@usmo.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: min. pilot requirements
      > for first flight
      > 
      > 
      > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves
      > <mgraves@usmo.com>
      > >
      > > On the insurance note.
      > >
      > > It is possible to get LIFE insurance coverage for
      > when we fly these 
      > > things?
      > >
      > > If I am not mistaken.  My current life insurance
      > policy specifically 
      > > denies
      > > small plane accidents.  I hadn't really thought
      > about it till my wife
      > > pointed it out the other day.  I don't think her
      > concern was really for 
      > > me,
      > >  :-)  but our daughter....
      
      
      =====
      ----------------------------
      Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
        http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
        http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
        http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
      
      
                      
      __________________________________ 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
      
      In Canada, I purchased life insurance through COPA. 
      The fun part is that it did'nt cost me anything.
      
      What I mean is that I reduced the coverage of my
      employer's collective life insurance.  The reduction
      in contribution to the employer's program was nearly
      enough to pay for the COPA life insurance.
      
      Does AOPA have a similar program?
      
      Michel
      
      --- Richard Hutson <rhutson@MIDSOUTH.RR.COM> wrote:
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
      > <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
      > 
      > For life insurnace check this web site 
      > http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/piclife/biz. this is
      > from AVflash's busniness 
      > site
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Monty Graves" <mgraves@usmo.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: min. pilot requirements
      > for first flight
      > 
      > 
      > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves
      > <mgraves@usmo.com>
      > >
      > > On the insurance note.
      > >
      > > It is possible to get LIFE insurance coverage for
      > when we fly these 
      > > things?
      > >
      > > If I am not mistaken.  My current life insurance
      > policy specifically 
      > > denies
      > > small plane accidents.  I hadn't really thought
      > about it till my wife
      > > pointed it out the other day.  I don't think her
      > concern was really for 
      > > me,
      > >  :-)  but our daughter....
      
      
      =====
      ----------------------------
      Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
        http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
        http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
        http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
      
      
              
                      
      __________________________________ 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
      
      In Canada, I purchased life insurance through COPA. 
      The fun part is that it did'nt cost me anything.
      
      What I mean is that I reduced the coverage of my
      employer's collective life insurance.  The reduction
      in contribution to the employer's program was nearly
      enough to pay for the COPA life insurance.
      
      Does AOPA have a similar program?
      
      Michel
      
      --- Richard Hutson <rhutson@MIDSOUTH.RR.COM> wrote:
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
      > <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
      > 
      > For life insurnace check this web site 
      > http://www.avweb.com/sponsors/piclife/biz. this is
      > from AVflash's busniness 
      > site
      > 
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Monty Graves" <mgraves@usmo.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: min. pilot requirements
      > for first flight
      > 
      > 
      > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves
      > <mgraves@usmo.com>
      > >
      > > On the insurance note.
      > >
      > > It is possible to get LIFE insurance coverage for
      > when we fly these 
      > > things?
      > >
      > > If I am not mistaken.  My current life insurance
      > policy specifically 
      > > denies
      > > small plane accidents.  I hadn't really thought
      > about it till my wife
      > > pointed it out the other day.  I don't think her
      > concern was really for 
      > > me,
      > >  :-)  but our daughter....
      
      
      =====
      ----------------------------
      Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
        http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
        http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
        http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
      
      
              
                      
      __________________________________ 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: min. pilot requirements for first flight | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
      
      Acdually, David, I did not miss anything!
      
      My construction mentor did all my flight tests (25
      hours in Canada).  Then, I took flying lessons on my
      own CH601-HD!  I started lessons on Oct 5 and obtained
      my PPL on Dec 22 (1st solo on Oct 26 and flight test
      on nov 23rd if I remember).
      
      I now have 70 hours in my pilot log book! :-)
      
      I think it is tougher to take flying lessons on a
      homebuilt in the US.  Here, regulations allow for it
      and it is fairly easy to find instructors that would
      love to fly anything different than their usual
      Cessnas.
      
      Michel
      
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth
      <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
      
      Thanks Michel.  It is what I found too but you beat me
      to it.  So.... did you miss
      the first 5 hours in your plane?
      David
      do not archive
      
      
      =====
      ----------------------------
      Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
        http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
        http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
        http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Life Insurance - Another note... | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
      
      
      I used to sell life insurance.  Here are some tips.
      
      #1 - Tell the truth.  If you smoke, and say you don't, you will pay
      lower premiums.  However, when you get killed on the highway by a drunk
      driver, and the insurance company finds your lungs coated in tar, you
      family may have a hefty battle to extract the benefit.
      
      #2 - HUGE difference between Life Insurance and Accidental Death and
      Dismemberment (AD&D) coverage.  
      
      #3 - MOST life insurance covers you 24/7 in what ever situation as long
      as you answered all of their questions truthfully.  I stated that I am a
      low-time pilot that tows gliders and they bumped my premium $1 per month
      more.
      
      #4 - MOST AD&D coverage will not cover you for flying in small aircraft
      or other "dangerous" activity.  
      
      #5 - READ YOUR POLICY.  If you don't like something, change it and
      submit it to your insurance agent.  You will either get a "no" or an
      increase in premium or no increase in premium and an amended agreement.
      
      My 2-cents ( $0.016 USD)
      
      Martin
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Vann Covington" <vann_covington@ncsu.edu>
      
      Jon,
        I brought this subject up on the Kolb list.  Do you have a private ticket?  In
      my research into life insurance I have found people that will insure me if I
      had a private.  But I fly a heavy ultralight and no private ticket (I do have
      USUA training) and because they have little accident history on us, it is difficult
      to get insurance at a reasonable cost.  If you have your private and a
      good many hours I don't think they care what you fly and it isn't difficult to
      fine insurance.
      Vann
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: life insurance | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
      
      Yes, yes, yes!
      Vann,
      I agree with your assessment of  'who' they penalize...  Ultralights are 
      considered  hazardous activities (like skydiving, scuba, etc). And that's 
      why I think I fell between the 'cracks' on my policy because when I 
      responded to their sales literature, I first wrote 'fly ultralights' to see 
      if they would kick me right out of the water immediately (as I would expect) 
      To my surprise, they repsonded with a general questionaire about private 
      pilots experience (I am LOW time) and I repsonded truthfully AND again wrote 
      that I fly ultralights.  I am guessing that the underwriter doesnt know what 
      that means (ultralights) but they sent a copy of the app back to me with a 
      policy that I read from head to toe.  No exclusions.  I will share my 
      coverage with you all just for sake of comparison:  $100K for a dollar a 
      day.  Not the best, BUT, if you call brokers (I did) they wouldnt touch me 
      BECAUSE of the ULTRALIGHT flying, not the private flying.  Yes, private only 
      pilots can get reasonable coverage, but if you love ultralights and fly them 
      like I do, it is difficult to get a good price.  So, I mentioned earlier 
      that I got mine thru AAA (auto club life insurance) and it might be worth a 
      try.. to see if I was a fluke in their system - or - maybe the underwriters 
      are also ultralight pilots with a great attitude!  You never know!
      
      Good luck
      
      Jon
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Vann Covington" 
      > <vann_covington@ncsu.edu>
      >
      > Jon,
      >  I brought this subject up on the Kolb list.  Do you have a private 
      > ticket?  In my research into life insurance I have found people that will 
      > insure me if I had a private.  But I fly a heavy ultralight and no private 
      > ticket (I do have  USUA training) and because they have little accident 
      > history on us, it is difficult to get insurance at a reasonable cost.  If 
      > you have your private and a good many hours I don't think they care what 
      > you fly and it isn't difficult to fine insurance.
      > Vann
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Canadian builder question | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Riedlinger" <paulried@rogers.com>
      
      Hello everyone.   I have been lurking for a while.
      
      I moved back to Canada (Toronto)after spending 11 years in the US.  I am
      just playing around with the starter rudder kit for the 601XL.  I am a bit
      confused with the inspection procedures in Canada.  I am at the point where
      I am ready to skin the rudder.  Can I go ahead and rivet it shut (to the
      plans show it is to be done) or do I have to leave it clecoed until it is
      inspected (with the rest of the tail).
      
      Thanks 
      
      
      Paul Riedlinger
      paulried@rogers.com
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "kobo1" <kobo1@cyberbeach.net>
      
      In Canada: When I got my PPL I called both insurance companies I had
      insurance with already, both life insurance. It appears that if I had
      the policy before becoming a pilot nothing would change either in
      premiums or coverage, coverage as usual. After I had my license I
      changed one of the policies, told them I was a pilot and there was a
      second questionnaire to fill out; ratings, yearly time, total time, etc.
      This new policy had higher premiums, not by much, and there was no
      problem getting coverage. I believe a smoker has a harderr time getting
      insurance than a pilot here.
      
      Michael K
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jon Croke
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: life insurance
      
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
      
      Yes, yes, yes!
      Vann,
      I agree with your assessment of  'who' they penalize...  Ultralights are
      
      considered  hazardous activities (like skydiving, scuba, etc). And
      that's 
      why I think I fell between the 'cracks' on my policy because when I 
      responded to their sales literature, I first wrote 'fly ultralights' to
      see 
      if they would kick me right out of the water immediately (as I would
      expect) 
      To my surprise, they repsonded with a general questionaire about private
      
      pilots experience (I am LOW time) and I repsonded truthfully AND again
      wrote 
      that I fly ultralights.  I am guessing that the underwriter doesnt know
      what 
      that means (ultralights) but they sent a copy of the app back to me with
      a 
      policy that I read from head to toe.  No exclusions.  I will share my 
      coverage with you all just for sake of comparison:  $100K for a dollar a
      
      day.  Not the best, BUT, if you call brokers (I did) they wouldnt touch
      me 
      BECAUSE of the ULTRALIGHT flying, not the private flying.  Yes, private
      only 
      pilots can get reasonable coverage, but if you love ultralights and fly
      them 
      like I do, it is difficult to get a good price.  So, I mentioned earlier
      
      that I got mine thru AAA (auto club life insurance) and it might be
      worth a 
      try.. to see if I was a fluke in their system - or - maybe the
      underwriters 
      are also ultralight pilots with a great attitude!  You never know!
      
      Good luck
      
      Jon
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Vann Covington"
      > <vann_covington@ncsu.edu>
      >
      > Jon,
      >  I brought this subject up on the Kolb list.  Do you have a private
      > ticket?  In my research into life insurance I have found people that
      will 
      > insure me if I had a private.  But I fly a heavy ultralight and no
      private 
      > ticket (I do have  USUA training) and because they have little
      accident 
      > history on us, it is difficult to get insurance at a reasonable cost.
      If 
      > you have your private and a good many hours I don't think they care
      what 
      > you fly and it isn't difficult to fine insurance.
      > Vann
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      
      No, but the (heavy duty) ball bearings failed after 24 hours.
      
      I'll check those out.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Dan
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: <Crvsecretary@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
      >
      >
      > Hello Dan:
      >
      > A Nice bearing # 1623 has a 5/8 bore and 1 3/8 OD that should be just 
      > right.
      > Why do you need a Timken-style tapered roller bearing?  I don't even 
      > think
      > Harley-Davidson is still using tapered-roller bearings in thier  wheels. 
      > I
      > know BMW (motorcycle) transitioned decades ago.
      >
      > Here's a link to the drawing:
      > _http://www.rbcbearings.com/ballbearings/detail.asp?PartNumber=1623_
      > (http://www.rbcbearings.com/ballbearings/detail.asp?PartNumber=1623)
      >
      > Looking at my XL drawings I have to believe they use a ball bearing with 
      > the
      > factory kit.  Did the 601HD require a tapered roller bearing?
      >
      > Just my .02 worth.
      >
      > Tracy Smith
      > Naugatuck, CT
      > 601XL tail 85%
      > do not archive
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      
      Larry,
      
      What wheels are you using?   Matco or something else?
      
      What is the inside dimension of your forks?
      
      Thanks,
      
      Dan
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" 
      > <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >
      > Dan,
      > The 8 x 4 wheels seem a bit ponderous with the wheel-barrow tires
      > seen on most.  I used a 3.50 - 8 Michelin Tire called the S-83.
      > It's a scooter tire load rated at 375 lbs and has a decent radius & slight
      > tread pattern.  I also used tubes and purchased them all at the local 
      > cycle
      > shop.  You can see these at http://motous.webmichelin.com/tiress83.htm
      > Don't know about the bearing thing.  Havn't had any problems with
      > the wheels or bearings to date.  Sure like the tires though.
      > You can also see the tires at
      > http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif
      > Please disregard the stickers still shown on the calipers as it was an 
      > early
      > photo.
      >
      > Larry
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>
      >> I've been trying to find roller bearings for my wheels with a 1 3/8" bore
      >> and either 3/4" or 5/8" axle and have had no luck.  I've been through the
      >> Timken and other bearing catalogues to no avail.  I may have to go with
      >> other wheels.
      >>
      >> What are the dimensions for the matco wheels that most use?  My forks are
      >> only about 4 1/2" wide, which doesn't leave a lot of room for error. 
      >> With
      >> the 4.00 x 8 tires I have maybe 1/4" on either side.
      >>
      >> What tire size do the matco wheels fit?
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >> Dan
      >> CH601HD, EA81 soob
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Canadian builder question | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Jones" <fjones@sympatico.ca>
      
      Paul,
      
      You need to leave it open for a pre-closing inspection. Take a look at
      the MDRA web site. http://www.md-ra.com/.  It has the forms you need and
      the process is described there.
      
      Frank Jones
      C-GYXQ
      
      Hello everyone.   I have been lurking for a while.
      
      I moved back to Canada (Toronto)after spending 11 years in the US.  I am
      just playing around with the starter rudder kit for the 601XL.  I am a
      bit
      confused with the inspection procedures in Canada.  I am at the point
      where
      I am ready to skin the rudder.  Can I go ahead and rivet it shut (to the
      plans show it is to be done) or do I have to leave it clecoed until it
      is
      inspected (with the rest of the tail).
      
      Thanks 
      
      
      Paul Riedlinger
      paulried@rogers.com
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re:601  fuel cap leaks | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
      
      Hi listers,
      Wonder if those with wing tanks with ZAC's external automotive caps on 
      them are experiencing fuel spewing from the caps when filling to the top 
      and flying? My leading edge wing tanks are 10 gallons but if I fill them 
      above 9.5 gallons or so they spew fuel for about 3 or 4 minutes after I 
      takeoff till the level goes down a bit.  The fuel caps are standard ZAC 
      and I don't have tubes pointing up and forward to pressurize them so I 
      don't know why they vent fuel overboard.  It happens with both wing 
      tanks so doesn't seem to be a defective cap.  If I built a fairing 
      around the cap to prevent air from flowing around the neck and cap I 
      wonder if it would cut down the leakage.
        While on the fuel related questions-- I use two wing tanks to refill 
      the 8 gallon header tank thru the 1/4 inch fitting near the top of the 
      tank.  When I accidentally overfill the header tank from the wing tanks 
      I get the same fuel venting from the cap.  Is there a simple check valve 
      I could install to stop the fuel from overfilling the header?  It would 
      make flying a lot simpler if I didn't have to devote so much time to 
      remembering when to turn off the wing boost pumps. 
      Thanks for ideas.
      Ron
      N601TD  (HDS/Jab 3300)
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
      
             Does anyone have a ch600 tail dragger with mechanical brakes?  If 
      so I am curious as to how well they work and how you have them set up.
                                  alex t.
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      
      Dan,
      I'm using the same dimensions, 123mm or 4.84" inside width
      for the forks.  I'm using the typical Matco wheels and brakes
      and MC-5 brake cylinders.  (W80CC-Z rears and NW80CC-Z nose)
      They roll really nicely on grass or uneven runways.
      I would recommend you look carefully at the remote reservoir
      for filling the brake cylinders.  That's the only area where I could
      have made a serious improvement and gotten an easier way to top
      off the fluids.  If you're using MC-5s, I'd have them add the intensifiers
      or buy the kit and adapt them for more effective braking.
      Best regards,
      
      Larry
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >
      > Larry,
      >
      > What wheels are you using?   Matco or something else?
      >
      > What is the inside dimension of your forks?
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Dan
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>
      >> Dan,
      >> The 8 x 4 wheels seem a bit ponderous with the wheel-barrow tires
      >> seen on most.  I used a 3.50 - 8 Michelin Tire called the S-83.
      >> It's a scooter tire load rated at 375 lbs and has a decent radius & 
      >> slight
      >> tread pattern.  I also used tubes and purchased them all at the local
      >> cycle
      >> shop.  You can see these at http://motous.webmichelin.com/tiress83.htm
      >> Don't know about the bearing thing.  Havn't had any problems with
      >> the wheels or bearings to date.  Sure like the tires though.
      >> You can also see the tires at
      >> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif
      >> Please disregard the stickers still shown on the calipers as it was an
      >> early
      >> photo.
      >>
      >> Larry
      >>
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>
      >>> I've been trying to find roller bearings for my wheels with a 1 3/8" 
      >>> bore
      >>> and either 3/4" or 5/8" axle and have had no luck.  I've been through 
      >>> the
      >>> Timken and other bearing catalogues to no avail.  I may have to go with
      >>> other wheels.
      >>>
      >>> What are the dimensions for the matco wheels that most use?  My forks 
      >>> are
      >>> only about 4 1/2" wide, which doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
      >>> With
      >>> the 4.00 x 8 tires I have maybe 1/4" on either side.
      >>>
      >>> What tire size do the matco wheels fit?
      >>>
      >>> Thanks,
      >>>
      >>> Dan
      >>> CH601HD, EA81 soob
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re:601  fuel cap leaks | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      
      Ron,
      I believe your wing tank cap vents should be pointed forward for pressure
      to avoid venting from the caps.  In the overfill of the header, you're 
      backfilling
      into the wing tanks and cap overflow might be easy.  I used non-vent caps
      all round and vent from the bottom of the individual wing tanks and the 
      header by routing
      vent out to the right end of the centerwing bottom skin.
      If you don't already have vent pipes from the topmost inside of the tank, 
      you could
      put a plastic line from the filler necks down and away under the plane and 
      add vents to the
      wing tank filler necks to accomplish the same and seal the caps.  You'd 
      never smell fuel
      again either.
      
      Larry McFarland
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "ron dewees" <rdewees@mindspring.com>
      Subject: Zenith-List: Re:601 fuel cap leaks
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
      >
      > Hi listers,
      > Wonder if those with wing tanks with ZAC's external automotive caps on
      > them are experiencing fuel spewing from the caps when filling to the top
      > and flying? My leading edge wing tanks are 10 gallons but if I fill them
      > above 9.5 gallons or so they spew fuel for about 3 or 4 minutes after I
      > takeoff till the level goes down a bit.  The fuel caps are standard ZAC
      > and I don't have tubes pointing up and forward to pressurize them so I
      > don't know why they vent fuel overboard.  It happens with both wing
      > tanks so doesn't seem to be a defective cap.  If I built a fairing
      > around the cap to prevent air from flowing around the neck and cap I
      > wonder if it would cut down the leakage.
      >  While on the fuel related questions-- I use two wing tanks to refill
      > the 8 gallon header tank thru the 1/4 inch fitting near the top of the
      > tank.  When I accidentally overfill the header tank from the wing tanks
      > I get the same fuel venting from the cap.  Is there a simple check valve
      > I could install to stop the fuel from overfilling the header?  It would
      > make flying a lot simpler if I didn't have to devote so much time to
      > remembering when to turn off the wing boost pumps.
      > Thanks for ideas.
      > Ron
      > N601TD  (HDS/Jab 3300)
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
      
      Larry,
        If you had to do it over, where would you locate the remote reservoir for 
      the MC-5, and how would you tie it into your brake lines?  How would you 
      prevent fluid from being pushed into the reservoir (instead of into the 
      brakes) when you apply brakes?  I looked at the MC-5 info on the Spruce 
      website (couldn't find a website for Matco) and didn't see any applicable 
      info.   Maybe you'd need something other than the MC-5?
      Thanks,
      Bob
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" 
      > <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >
      > Dan,
      > I'm using the same dimensions, 123mm or 4.84" inside width
      > for the forks.  I'm using the typical Matco wheels and brakes
      > and MC-5 brake cylinders.  (W80CC-Z rears and NW80CC-Z nose)
      > They roll really nicely on grass or uneven runways.
      > I would recommend you look carefully at the remote reservoir
      > for filling the brake cylinders.  That's the only area where I could
      > have made a serious improvement and gotten an easier way to top
      > off the fluids.  If you're using MC-5s, I'd have them add the intensifiers
      > or buy the kit and adapt them for more effective braking.
      > Best regards,
      >
      > Larry
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>
      >> Larry,
      >>
      >> What wheels are you using?   Matco or something else?
      >>
      >> What is the inside dimension of your forks?
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >> Dan
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >>> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>>
      >>> Dan,
      >>> The 8 x 4 wheels seem a bit ponderous with the wheel-barrow tires
      >>> seen on most.  I used a 3.50 - 8 Michelin Tire called the S-83.
      >>> It's a scooter tire load rated at 375 lbs and has a decent radius &
      >>> slight
      >>> tread pattern.  I also used tubes and purchased them all at the local
      >>> cycle
      >>> shop.  You can see these at http://motous.webmichelin.com/tiress83.htm
      >>> Don't know about the bearing thing.  Havn't had any problems with
      >>> the wheels or bearings to date.  Sure like the tires though.
      >>> You can also see the tires at
      >>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif
      >>> Please disregard the stickers still shown on the calipers as it was an
      >>> early
      >>> photo.
      >>>
      >>> Larry
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>>
      >>>> I've been trying to find roller bearings for my wheels with a 1 3/8"
      >>>> bore
      >>>> and either 3/4" or 5/8" axle and have had no luck.  I've been through
      >>>> the
      >>>> Timken and other bearing catalogues to no avail.  I may have to go with
      >>>> other wheels.
      >>>>
      >>>> What are the dimensions for the matco wheels that most use?  My forks
      >>>> are
      >>>> only about 4 1/2" wide, which doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
      >>>> With
      >>>> the 4.00 x 8 tires I have maybe 1/4" on either side.
      >>>>
      >>>> What tire size do the matco wheels fit?
      >>>>
      >>>> Thanks,
      >>>>
      >>>> Dan
      >>>> CH601HD, EA81 soob
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: <pstafford@attglobal.net>
      
      Howdy guys,
      
      The Matco web site is:  http://mysite.elixirlabs.com/?uid=2192&page=433  
      
      The web site has some excellent technical support info, and the Matco guys
      are very helpful.  The drawings page is:
      http://matco.elixirlabs.com/catalog/index.php?file=catalog&uid=2192&prod_pca
      tegory=69102&clist=0,68008,69102&uid=2192 
      
      They exchanged my Zenith supplied MC5s for MC4s and a MCR 100 reservoir,
      giving me full refund on the MC5s.  They also have a nifty parking brake
      valve which works great.  I mounted my reservoir on the firewall behind  the
      engine on the pilots side.
      
      Pat S.
      601XL Jabiru 3300
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Miller
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
      <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
      
      Larry,
        If you had to do it over, where would you locate the remote reservoir for 
      the MC-5, and how would you tie it into your brake lines?  How would you 
      prevent fluid from being pushed into the reservoir (instead of into the 
      brakes) when you apply brakes?  I looked at the MC-5 info on the Spruce 
      website (couldn't find a website for Matco) and didn't see any applicable 
      info.   Maybe you'd need something other than the MC-5?
      Thanks,
      Bob
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" 
      > <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >
      > Dan,
      > I'm using the same dimensions, 123mm or 4.84" inside width
      > for the forks.  I'm using the typical Matco wheels and brakes
      > and MC-5 brake cylinders.  (W80CC-Z rears and NW80CC-Z nose)
      > They roll really nicely on grass or uneven runways.
      > I would recommend you look carefully at the remote reservoir
      > for filling the brake cylinders.  That's the only area where I could
      > have made a serious improvement and gotten an easier way to top
      > off the fluids.  If you're using MC-5s, I'd have them add the intensifiers
      > or buy the kit and adapt them for more effective braking.
      > Best regards,
      >
      > Larry
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>
      >> Larry,
      >>
      >> What wheels are you using?   Matco or something else?
      >>
      >> What is the inside dimension of your forks?
      >>
      >> Thanks,
      >>
      >> Dan
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >>> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>>
      >>> Dan,
      >>> The 8 x 4 wheels seem a bit ponderous with the wheel-barrow tires
      >>> seen on most.  I used a 3.50 - 8 Michelin Tire called the S-83.
      >>> It's a scooter tire load rated at 375 lbs and has a decent radius &
      >>> slight
      >>> tread pattern.  I also used tubes and purchased them all at the local
      >>> cycle
      >>> shop.  You can see these at http://motous.webmichelin.com/tiress83.htm
      >>> Don't know about the bearing thing.  Havn't had any problems with
      >>> the wheels or bearings to date.  Sure like the tires though.
      >>> You can also see the tires at
      >>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif
      >>> Please disregard the stickers still shown on the calipers as it was an
      >>> early
      >>> photo.
      >>>
      >>> Larry
      >>>
      >>>
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>>
      >>>> I've been trying to find roller bearings for my wheels with a 1 3/8"
      >>>> bore
      >>>> and either 3/4" or 5/8" axle and have had no luck.  I've been through
      >>>> the
      >>>> Timken and other bearing catalogues to no avail.  I may have to go with
      >>>> other wheels.
      >>>>
      >>>> What are the dimensions for the matco wheels that most use?  My forks
      >>>> are
      >>>> only about 4 1/2" wide, which doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
      >>>> With
      >>>> the 4.00 x 8 tires I have maybe 1/4" on either side.
      >>>>
      >>>> What tire size do the matco wheels fit?
      >>>>
      >>>> Thanks,
      >>>>
      >>>> Dan
      >>>> CH601HD, EA81 soob
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      
      Bob,
      You're right Bob, the MC-5 would be difficult to connect the remote
      reservoir to one that has the built-in reservoir. If I'd used the basic 
      brake
      cylinder without, the remote reservoir would be on the firewall like that of 
      a Piper.
      You'll find Matco's site is www.matcomfg.com.  The MC-5 brake cylinders
      wheels, calipers etc are all there.  Using the search window, look for 
      Zenith.
      
      Because I didn't see their remote reservoir by the time my brakes were 
      installed,
      I had to devise use of a plastic syringe & plastic tubing fill my brake 
      cylinders
      at the brake bleeder from the bottom up.  One can do this while standing in 
      front
      of the wing and reach around to check overflow without a great amount of 
      difficulty,
      and it eliminates the bubbles you'd get trying to fill from the top.
      
      Larry
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" 
      > <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
      >
      > Larry,
      >  If you had to do it over, where would you locate the remote reservoir for
      > the MC-5, and how would you tie it into your brake lines?  How would you
      > prevent fluid from being pushed into the reservoir (instead of into the
      > brakes) when you apply brakes?  I looked at the MC-5 info on the Spruce
      > website (couldn't find a website for Matco) and didn't see any applicable
      > info.   Maybe you'd need something other than the MC-5?
      > Thanks,
      > Bob
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>
      >> Dan,
      >> I'm using the same dimensions, 123mm or 4.84" inside width
      >> for the forks.  I'm using the typical Matco wheels and brakes
      >> and MC-5 brake cylinders.  (W80CC-Z rears and NW80CC-Z nose)
      >> They roll really nicely on grass or uneven runways.
      >> I would recommend you look carefully at the remote reservoir
      >> for filling the brake cylinders.  That's the only area where I could
      >> have made a serious improvement and gotten an easier way to top
      >> off the fluids.  If you're using MC-5s, I'd have them add the 
      >> intensifiers
      >> or buy the kit and adapt them for more effective braking.
      >> Best regards,
      >>
      >> Larry
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>
      >>> Larry,
      >>>
      >>> What wheels are you using?   Matco or something else?
      >>>
      >>> What is the inside dimension of your forks?
      >>>
      >>> Thanks,
      >>>
      >>> Dan
      >>> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >>>> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>>>
      >>>> Dan,
      >>>> The 8 x 4 wheels seem a bit ponderous with the wheel-barrow tires
      >>>> seen on most.  I used a 3.50 - 8 Michelin Tire called the S-83.
      >>>> It's a scooter tire load rated at 375 lbs and has a decent radius &
      >>>> slight
      >>>> tread pattern.  I also used tubes and purchased them all at the local
      >>>> cycle
      >>>> shop.  You can see these at http://motous.webmichelin.com/tiress83.htm
      >>>> Don't know about the bearing thing.  Havn't had any problems with
      >>>> the wheels or bearings to date.  Sure like the tires though.
      >>>> You can also see the tires at
      >>>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif
      >>>> Please disregard the stickers still shown on the calipers as it was an
      >>>> early
      >>>> photo.
      >>>>
      >>>> Larry
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
      >>>> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> I've been trying to find roller bearings for my wheels with a 1 3/8"
      >>>>> bore
      >>>>> and either 3/4" or 5/8" axle and have had no luck.  I've been through
      >>>>> the
      >>>>> Timken and other bearing catalogues to no avail.  I may have to go 
      >>>>> with
      >>>>> other wheels.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> What are the dimensions for the matco wheels that most use?  My forks
      >>>>> are
      >>>>> only about 4 1/2" wide, which doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
      >>>>> With
      >>>>> the 4.00 x 8 tires I have maybe 1/4" on either side.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> What tire size do the matco wheels fit?
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Thanks,
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Dan
      >>>>> CH601HD, EA81 soob
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
      
      
      Hmmmm...a 'heavy-duty' radial ball bearing failed in only 24 hours?   I'm 
      inclined to believe it was a defective bearing, improper installation, or  just
      a 
      cheap piece of junque !
      
      I have had excellent results in industrial applications with Nice bearings;  
      try it !!
      
      Regards,
      
      Tracy
      
      do not archive
      
      
      In a message dated 2/24/2005 7:33:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
      dan@knezacek.ca writes:
      
      -->  Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek"  <dan@knezacek.ca>
      
      No, but the (heavy duty) ball bearings failed  after 24 hours.
      
      I'll check those  out.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Dan
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From:  <Crvsecretary@aol.com>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601  HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by:  Crvsecretary@aol.com
      >
      >
      > Hello Dan:
      >
      > A Nice  bearing # 1623 has a 5/8 bore and 1 3/8 OD that should be just 
      >  right.
      > Why do you need a Timken-style tapered roller bearing?  I  don't even 
      > think
      > Harley-Davidson is still using  tapered-roller bearings in thier  wheels. 
      > I
      > know BMW  (motorcycle) transitioned decades ago.
      >
      > Here's a link to the  drawing:
      >  _http://www.rbcbearings.com/ballbearings/detail.asp?PartNumber=1623_
      >  (http://www.rbcbearings.com/ballbearings/detail.asp?PartNumber=1623)
      >
      >  Looking at my XL drawings I have to believe they use a ball bearing with  
      > the
      > factory kit.  Did the 601HD require a tapered roller  bearing?
      >
      > Just my .02 worth.
      >
      > Tracy  Smith
      > Naugatuck, CT
      > 601XL tail 85%
      > do not  archive
      >  
      
      
      
      
      
      
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      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
      
      Alex,
      
           I can't say how well they will operate, but I
      have installed Azusa mechanical brakes.  I built my
      landing gear and rudder pedals from scratch, so it was
      very simple to incorporate the brake cables into the
      design.  I have sent pictures to Matronics photoshare,
      but don't know how long it takes to get them posted. 
      I was planning on waiting until everything was painted
      - paint always hides minor fabrication flaws!  
      
           Anyway, I used the same Azusa wheel and brake set
      up that they use in the Sonex. 
      http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/lgpages/azusa.php
        $167.60 including tires.  The kit is very light.  I
      found cables online.  They use a brake handle in the
      Sonex, and don't have differential braking, but I am
      partial to diff braking in taildraggers, so I
      incorporated them into my pedals.  If the photoshare
      thing doesn't pop up, and you are interested, e-mail
      me, and I will send you the pictures.  
      
           Again, nothing is tested.  I am not looking to
      start a public theoretical debate over the merits of
      hydraulic brakes, just want sufficient braking for
      runup checks, ect...  I hope to have positive feedback
      to the list on my spring gear and brakes sometime this
      year, but you all know how that goes.  I haven't been
      in the garage in 2 weeks!!!  
      
      Respectfully,
      
      Brandon Tucker
      601 HDS
      Wings, tail complete
      Fuse on gear, control cables routed.
      
      
              
                      
      __________________________________ 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
      
      The ball bearings will fail quickly if you preload them like a taper-roller.
      
      Cy Galley - Chair,
      AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
      A Service Project of Chapter 75
      EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
      EAA Sport Pilot
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >
      > No, but the (heavy duty) ball bearings failed after 24 hours.
      >
      > I'll check those out.
      >
      > Thanks,
      >
      > Dan
      > ----- Original Message ----- 
      > From: <Crvsecretary@aol.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
      >>
      >>
      >> Hello Dan:
      >>
      >> A Nice bearing # 1623 has a 5/8 bore and 1 3/8 OD that should be just
      >> right.
      >> Why do you need a Timken-style tapered roller bearing?  I don't even
      >> think
      >> Harley-Davidson is still using tapered-roller bearings in thier  wheels.
      >> I
      >> know BMW (motorcycle) transitioned decades ago.
      >>
      >> Here's a link to the drawing:
      >> _http://www.rbcbearings.com/ballbearings/detail.asp?PartNumber=1623_
      >> (http://www.rbcbearings.com/ballbearings/detail.asp?PartNumber=1623)
      >>
      >> Looking at my XL drawings I have to believe they use a ball bearing with
      >> the
      >> factory kit.  Did the 601HD require a tapered roller bearing?
      >>
      >> Just my .02 worth.
      >>
      >> Tracy Smith
      >> Naugatuck, CT
      >> 601XL tail 85%
      >> do not archive
      >>
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Wheels on 601 HD | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
      
      I used an old plastic tank from an oil injection system on a motorcycle and
      about 5 feet of plastic tubing attached to the bleeder.  I then used a coat
      hanger to suspend the tank at the same level as the master cylinders.  It
      took about 30 minutes for gravity to do all the work.  And because I used
      the semi-clear hose I could monitor the fluid as it got close to the master
      cylinder.
      
      Dave
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
      McFarland
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      
      Bob,
      You're right Bob, the MC-5 would be difficult to connect the remote
      reservoir to one that has the built-in reservoir. If I'd used the basic
      brake
      cylinder without, the remote reservoir would be on the firewall like that of
      a Piper.
      You'll find Matco's site is www.matcomfg.com.  The MC-5 brake cylinders
      wheels, calipers etc are all there.  Using the search window, look for
      Zenith.
      
      Because I didn't see their remote reservoir by the time my brakes were
      installed,
      I had to devise use of a plastic syringe & plastic tubing fill my brake
      cylinders
      at the brake bleeder from the bottom up.  One can do this while standing in
      front
      of the wing and reach around to check overflow without a great amount of
      difficulty,
      and it eliminates the bubbles you'd get trying to fill from the top.
      
      Larry
      
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
      Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
      > <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
      >
      > Larry,
      >  If you had to do it over, where would you locate the remote reservoir for
      > the MC-5, and how would you tie it into your brake lines?  How would you
      > prevent fluid from being pushed into the reservoir (instead of into the
      > brakes) when you apply brakes?  I looked at the MC-5 info on the Spruce
      > website (couldn't find a website for Matco) and didn't see any applicable
      > info.   Maybe you'd need something other than the MC-5?
      > Thanks,
      > Bob
      >
      >
      > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      > To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >
      >
      >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>
      >> Dan,
      >> I'm using the same dimensions, 123mm or 4.84" inside width
      >> for the forks.  I'm using the typical Matco wheels and brakes
      >> and MC-5 brake cylinders.  (W80CC-Z rears and NW80CC-Z nose)
      >> They roll really nicely on grass or uneven runways.
      >> I would recommend you look carefully at the remote reservoir
      >> for filling the brake cylinders.  That's the only area where I could
      >> have made a serious improvement and gotten an easier way to top
      >> off the fluids.  If you're using MC-5s, I'd have them add the
      >> intensifiers
      >> or buy the kit and adapt them for more effective braking.
      >> Best regards,
      >>
      >> Larry
      >>
      >> ----- Original Message -----
      >> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>
      >>
      >>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>
      >>> Larry,
      >>>
      >>> What wheels are you using?   Matco or something else?
      >>>
      >>> What is the inside dimension of your forks?
      >>>
      >>> Thanks,
      >>>
      >>> Dan
      >>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>> From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
      >>>> <larrymc@qconline.com>
      >>>>
      >>>> Dan,
      >>>> The 8 x 4 wheels seem a bit ponderous with the wheel-barrow tires
      >>>> seen on most.  I used a 3.50 - 8 Michelin Tire called the S-83.
      >>>> It's a scooter tire load rated at 375 lbs and has a decent radius &
      >>>> slight
      >>>> tread pattern.  I also used tubes and purchased them all at the local
      >>>> cycle
      >>>> shop.  You can see these at http://motous.webmichelin.com/tiress83.htm
      >>>> Don't know about the bearing thing.  Havn't had any problems with
      >>>> the wheels or bearings to date.  Sure like the tires though.
      >>>> You can also see the tires at
      >>>> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/pantforkbracketrh.gif
      >>>> Please disregard the stickers still shown on the calipers as it was an
      >>>> early
      >>>> photo.
      >>>>
      >>>> Larry
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>> ----- Original Message -----
      >>>> From: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
      >>>> Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels on 601 HD
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Knezacek" <dan@knezacek.ca>
      >>>>>
      >>>>> I've been trying to find roller bearings for my wheels with a 1 3/8"
      >>>>> bore
      >>>>> and either 3/4" or 5/8" axle and have had no luck.  I've been through
      >>>>> the
      >>>>> Timken and other bearing catalogues to no avail.  I may have to go
      >>>>> with
      >>>>> other wheels.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> What are the dimensions for the matco wheels that most use?  My forks
      >>>>> are
      >>>>> only about 4 1/2" wide, which doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
      >>>>> With
      >>>>> the 4.00 x 8 tires I have maybe 1/4" on either side.
      >>>>>
      >>>>> What tire size do the matco wheels fit?
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Thanks,
      >>>>>
      >>>>> Dan
      >>>>> CH601HD, EA81 soob
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>>
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >
      >
      
      
      
      
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re:601  fuel cap leaks | 
      
      --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
      
      You will get the fuel sloshing around in the tanks a bit while maneuvering ,
      this and the low pressure area on the upper surface of the wing is helping
      to draw fuel out of the tanks. Putting a fairing around the fuel cap would
      likely make it worse due the the low pressure formed behind the fairing. The
      simplest solution would be to add a tube to the cap that points forward to
      slightly pressurize the tank.
      
      For the overfilling problem of the header tank, maybe you could add a float
      switch to turn on a warning light or buzzer when the tank is full. Hook it
      to the same circuit as the pump so shutting off the pump will shut off the
      warning.
      
      
      > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
      > 
      > Hi listers,
      > My leading edge wing tanks are 10 gallons but if I fill them
      > above 9.5 gallons or so they spew fuel for about 3 or 4 minutes after I
      > takeoff till the level goes down a bit.
      > If I built a fairing
      > around the cap to prevent air from flowing around the neck and cap I
      > wonder if it would cut down the leakage.
      > While on the fuel related questions-- I use two wing tanks to refill
      > the 8 gallon header tank thru the 1/4 inch fitting near the top of the
      > tank.  When I accidentally overfill the header tank from the wing tanks
      > I get the same fuel venting from the cap.
      
      
      -- 
      Bryan Martin
      N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
      In Phase I testing.
      do not archive.
      
      
      
      
      
      
 
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