Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:36 AM - 701 Parts (Howard Carter)
2. 12:40 AM - Re: Canadian builder question (Bryan Martin)
3. 03:32 AM - C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 (Grant Corriveau)
4. 06:23 AM - Re: Variprime (Mike H)
5. 08:49 AM - Re: Cutting aluminum skins (John M. Goodings)
6. 09:27 AM - Re: C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 (Larry McFarland)
7. 10:28 AM - Re: C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 (Cdngoose)
8. 11:55 AM - Re: C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 (Gary Gower)
9. 02:09 PM - Re: Canadian builder question (NYTerminat@aol.com)
10. 03:34 PM - Re: Canadian builder question (cgalley)
11. 04:58 PM - Re: Canadian builder question (NYTerminat@aol.com)
12. 07:11 PM - Re: Re: Matco brake reservoir (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
13. 08:45 PM - Re: Canadian builder question (Gary Gower)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter <howado@cwia.com>
Attention: 701 scratch builders about to start the elevator and
stabilator build
(1) Rear spar for stab, 7H2-2, drilled with doublers 7H2-3 and -5. Also
drilled for ribs.
(1) Elevator spar, 7H2-8, drilled with with central doubler plate .025
(not on plans). Also drilled for ribs.
These are ZAC parts, standard .016 6061-T6 material.
Crate available, no charge.
Both spars and doublers for sale for total $90.00, FOB Santa Clara CA.
Contact me off-line if interested.
Howard Carter
howado@cwia.com
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| Subject: | Re: Canadian builder question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Are you an EAA member? If not you should be. The organization has some very
valuable resources available to the membership. Find a local chapter and
participate in their technical counselor program. You can invite a tech
counselor out to look over your work in progess and get some tips and
advice. The program is free and it never hurts to have another pair of eyes
look over your work especially someone who has built his own plane before.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> I ALSO AM STARTING A 701,WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT IN THE STATES FOR
> INSPECTIONS? I HAVE BUILT THE RUDDER,ELEVATOR AND STABILIZER. DO I NEED
> INSPECTIONS? I
> HAVE TAKEN PICTURES, IS THAT GOOD ENOUGH?
>
> THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
>
> BOB
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
In Phase I testing.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
(if anyone cares to read the full 5 page(!) detailed description, email me
and I'll send it to you.)
'Reader's Digest' version:
I flew Art Mitchell's 601XL from Kitchener-Waterloo (CYKF) down to the Creve
Couer airport (1H0) just west of St. Louis, Mo. on Wednesday, Feb. 23rd.
I cleared customs at Sandusky, Ohio, stopped enroute at Marionville
Municipal airport, Indiana (KMZZ), and at Greensville, Illinois (KGRE) to
obtain permission from STL center to enter the mode C veil without a
transponder. I arrived at Creve Couer (1H0) just before dark. During the
last leg of the flight I had sudden mysterious rudder pedal vibrations which
turned out to be a problem with the nose wheel fairing.
Total flight time on GOXL worked out to 5H50 over a GPS distance of 570
nautical miles (655 statute miles?). Average fuel burn was 5.25 US gph,
using 24 to 25 inches M.P. and 5000 engine RPM / 2,000 propellor RPM at
2,500 ft asl, more or less. (I don't know what % of power this represents).
I was cruising at 135 mph (indicated) and getting and ground speeds varying
between 110 and 130 mph. The average ground speed for the entire trip,
according to GPS (not sure how this is calculated) was just under 100 kts
(115 mph). Fuel consumption works out to over 27 airmiles per gallon -
pretty efficient!
Thanks to everyone who contributed to making this a very successful flight.
Grant
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike H" <mhilderbrand@cox.net>
Glad to here you like it. I was planning on shooting all my parts with
variprime right from the start. Can't wait to start!
mike
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Variprime
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
>
> Hello all. I got a hold of some variprime. I had been using Acid etch,
Alodine, and then paint cans. It wasn't too bad but the Variprime is much
easier. I really like it. You mix equal parts of an etching agent and the
paint. I then shot it with a HLVP touch up gun I got off of Ebay. It
really turned out nice.
>
> Just about out of parts and the Elevator should be done tomorrow. Will
pick up the rest of the kit in about a month. Time to clean up the shop and
do some Honeydos.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Matt
> www.zodiacxl.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cutting aluminum skins |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
My 2 cents, in building my CH601HD. I don't like snips, and almost never
used them. I built mostly from kits. For cutting 99% of 0.025 and 0.016"
Al, I used an ordinary 10 or 12" hack-saw blade fitted with a wooden
handle (home made); fast, clean, accurate, cheap, easy! To come up to the
line, I used a body file mounted on a piece of 1 x 2" wood (about 10 x
1.5", the kind with the half-moon cutters right across the width; two were
used for the whole aircraft); fast, clean, accurate, cheap, easy!
John Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Toronto/Waterloo.
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| Subject: | Re: C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
What engine and prop combination was being used?
Larry McFarland
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Corriveau" <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
> (if anyone cares to read the full 5 page(!) detailed description, email me
> and I'll send it to you.)
>
> 'Reader's Digest' version:
>
> I flew Art Mitchell's 601XL from Kitchener-Waterloo (CYKF) down to the
> Creve
> Couer airport (1H0) just west of St. Louis, Mo. on Wednesday, Feb. 23rd.
>
> I cleared customs at Sandusky, Ohio, stopped enroute at Marionville
> Municipal airport, Indiana (KMZZ), and at Greensville, Illinois (KGRE) to
> obtain permission from STL center to enter the mode C veil without a
> transponder. I arrived at Creve Couer (1H0) just before dark. During the
> last leg of the flight I had sudden mysterious rudder pedal vibrations
> which
> turned out to be a problem with the nose wheel fairing.
>
> Total flight time on GOXL worked out to 5H50 over a GPS distance of 570
> nautical miles (655 statute miles?). Average fuel burn was 5.25 US gph,
> using 24 to 25 inches M.P. and 5000 engine RPM / 2,000 propellor RPM at
> 2,500 ft asl, more or less. (I don't know what % of power this
> represents).
> I was cruising at 135 mph (indicated) and getting and ground speeds
> varying
> between 110 and 130 mph. The average ground speed for the entire trip,
> according to GPS (not sure how this is calculated) was just under 100 kts
> (115 mph). Fuel consumption works out to over 27 airmiles per gallon -
> pretty efficient!
>
> Thanks to everyone who contributed to making this a very successful
> flight.
>
> Grant
>
>
>
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| Subject: | C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Grant, sorry to have missed you, I got to CYKF as you were departing the
runway.
Larry, Arts 601XL had a Rotax 912S with the Chezk inflight adj sport
prop.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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-----Original Message-----
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland"
<larrymc@qconline.com>
What engine and prop combination was being used?
Larry McFarland
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: C-GOXL from CYKF to 1H0 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Grant,
Please send one to me, I will appreciate it very much.
Saludos
Gary Gower
ggower_99@yahoo.com
Do not archive.
Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau
(if anyone cares to read the full 5 page(!) detailed description, email me
and I'll send it to you.)
'Reader's Digest' version:
I flew Art Mitchell's 601XL from Kitchener-Waterloo (CYKF) down to the Creve
Couer airport (1H0) just west of St. Louis, Mo. on Wednesday, Feb. 23rd.
I cleared customs at Sandusky, Ohio, stopped enroute at Marionville
Municipal airport, Indiana (KMZZ), and at Greensville, Illinois (KGRE) to
obtain permission from STL center to enter the mode C veil without a
transponder. I arrived at Creve Couer (1H0) just before dark. During the
last leg of the flight I had sudden mysterious rudder pedal vibrations which
turned out to be a problem with the nose wheel fairing.
Total flight time on GOXL worked out to 5H50 over a GPS distance of 570
nautical miles (655 statute miles?). Average fuel burn was 5.25 US gph,
using 24 to 25 inches M.P. and 5000 engine RPM / 2,000 propellor RPM at
2,500 ft asl, more or less. (I don't know what % of power this represents).
I was cruising at 135 mph (indicated) and getting and ground speeds varying
between 110 and 130 mph. The average ground speed for the entire trip,
according to GPS (not sure how this is calculated) was just under 100 kts
(115 mph). Fuel consumption works out to over 27 airmiles per gallon -
pretty efficient!
Thanks to everyone who contributed to making this a very successful flight.
Grant
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| Subject: | Re: Canadian builder question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
THANKS FOR THE ADVICE. I AM AN EAA MEMBER BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY
LOCAL CLUB WHERE I LIVE IN UPSTATE NY.
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| Subject: | Re: Canadian builder question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Try this list so I don't have to check each for being in up state New York
Chapter
Click for more info City Web site
EAA 674 Albion, NY
EAA 1169 Batavia, NY
EAA 953 Bath, NY
EAA 46 Buffalo, NY http://www.eaa46.org/
EAA 1006 Claverack, NY
EAA 1070 Cooperstown, NY
EAA 602 Edinburg, NY http://www.eaa602.org
EAA 362 Fulton, NY
EAA 486 Fulton, NY http://www.EAAChapter486.com
EAA 146 Ghent, NY http://www.eaa146.org
EAA 353 Glens Falls, NY http://www.geocities.com/eaa_353/index.html
EAA 1204 Hamilton, NY
EAA 533 Horseheads, NY http://www.eaa533.org/
EAA 811 Ithaca, NY
EAA 1359 Kingston, NY
EAA 594 Long Island, NY
EAA 107 Marcellus, NY
EAA 500 Massena, NY
EAA 504 Middlesex, NY
EAA 1280 Montgomery, NY
EAA 44 Rochester, NY http://www.eaa44.org
EAA 528 Suffolk County, NY
EAA 294 Utica, NY
EAA 246 Wappingers Falls, NY
EAA 69 Warwick, NY
EAA 1017 Weedsport, NY http://www.eaa1017.org/
EAA 1140 White Lake, NY
EAA 1081 White Plains, NY
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
As a member you can always go to the website, find chapters. http://www.eaa.org/chapter/
It is under members only. You will need last name and EAA member number.
----- Original Message -----
From: <NYTerminat@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Canadian builder question
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> THANKS FOR THE ADVICE. I AM AN EAA MEMBER BUT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANY
> LOCAL CLUB WHERE I LIVE IN UPSTATE NY.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Canadian builder question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
THANK YOU FOR THE LIST, IT LOOKS LIKE ITHACA IS THE CLOSEST TO ME (ABOUT 25
MI. AWAY) I WILL LOOK THEM UP.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO BUY THE ROTAX
912ULS FOR A CH-701? IS IT WORTH SHOPPING AROUND OR IS ZENITH'S PRICES GOOD?
THANKS AGAIN
BOB SPUDIS
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| Subject: | Re: Matco brake reservoir |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Ok so there I was about to pull my brake pedals out to go weld 'em back
up...Realised of course thet I had to remove the rad first...Of course
didn't have the right tools but finally got it off..removed padals then
noticed the distinct but tiny drip of coolant on the front of the
rad...AAARG!...I'm sure I didn't damage it but sure enough there is a
tiny weep in the front corner....
I assume there is little point in trying to save the thing so I have two
questions
1) Is there a way to save these rads
2) What is the rad from....I thought it was a 1500 VW diesel but the
local parts place could not find it on their computer....Didn't help
that I didn't know the year either.
Thanks
Frank
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| Subject: | Re: Canadian builder question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
All the prices in Rotax are the same, we bought our engine from ZAC (complete
firewall forward and instrument kits) and it was complete and with no problems,
I mean with this that the engine and instruments were installed and worked
as spected...
Also, buying the engine from ZAC you have the waranty and service support from
Rotax. We had a modification (AD?) of our engine, done by the local distributor
with the same service as if it was bought from him.
Just my point of view.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
THANK YOU FOR THE LIST, IT LOOKS LIKE ITHACA IS THE CLOSEST TO ME (ABOUT 25
MI. AWAY) I WILL LOOK THEM UP.
ANOTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD IS WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE TO BUY THE ROTAX
912ULS FOR A CH-701? IS IT WORTH SHOPPING AROUND OR IS ZENITH'S PRICES GOOD?
THANKS AGAIN
BOB SPUDIS
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