---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 03/01/05: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:57 AM - Re: Re: Matco brake reservoir (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 2. 09:07 AM - Re: Re: Matco brake reservoir (ron dewees) 3. 09:27 AM - Brake pedal failure (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 4. 10:54 AM - Re: Re: Matco brake reservoir (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 5. 11:10 AM - Re: Woodcomp CS Prop - excellent! (Robert D Johnson) 6. 12:48 PM - Re: Re: Woodcomp CS Prop - excellent! (Larry McFarland) 7. 01:51 PM - Thank you, Ron !! (Zed Smith) 8. 04:28 PM - Rivets (Fred B.) 9. 06:20 PM - Brake bleeding (Neitzel) 10. 06:32 PM - Re: Rivets (Hal Rozema) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:57:45 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" HI guys...I too have been searching the web. There was a rabbit diesel from 82 to 84 (I think) and the price was right around $100. I will send a note to ZAC to see if tey will confirm what the rad is Thanks Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Crvsecretary@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com Hi larry: 1986?? I show the Rabbit went out of production in '84. No matter, the '86 Gulf diesel shows 2 different radiators available - with or without A/C. Parts Place shows new at $140 to $180 with used being about 1/2 that. I hope this helps Tracy Smith Naugatuck, CT 601xl tail 85% do not archive In a message dated 2/28/2005 9:43:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, larrymc@qconline.com writes: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" --> Frank, After checking for VW Rabbit Diesel engine in my auto parts store search, I find the year 1986 works for this radiator. ZAC would sell you another probably not to expensive as I remember. Larry McFarland ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > > > Ok so there I was about to pull my brake pedals out to go weld 'em back > up...Realised of course thet I had to remove the rad first...Of course > didn't have the right tools but finally got it off..removed padals then > noticed the distinct but tiny drip of coolant on the front of the > rad...AAARG!...I'm sure I didn't damage it but sure enough there is a > tiny weep in the front corner.... > > I assume there is little point in trying to save the thing so I have two > questions > > 1) Is there a way to save these rads > 2) What is the rad from....I thought it was a 1500 VW diesel but the > local parts place could not find it on their computer....Didn't help > that I didn't know the year either. > > Thanks > > Frank ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:07:14 AM PST US From: ron dewees Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees HI guys, How about changing the title to "radiator" or something else-- it messes up the thread and search engine when you discuss radiators under the Matco brake discussion which is quite active-- Thanks Ron DeWees N601TD do not archive Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" > >HI guys...I too have been searching the web. > >There was a rabbit diesel from 82 to 84 (I think) and the price was >right around $100. > >I will send a note to ZAC to see if tey will confirm what the rad is > >Thanks > >Frank > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >Crvsecretary@aol.com >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com > > >Hi larry: > >1986?? I show the Rabbit went out of production in '84. No matter, the >'86 Gulf diesel shows 2 different radiators available - with or without >A/C. > >Parts Place shows new at $140 to $180 with used being about 1/2 that. > >I hope this helps > > >Tracy Smith >Naugatuck, CT >601xl tail 85% >do not archive > > >In a message dated 2/28/2005 9:43:02 AM Eastern Standard Time, >larrymc@qconline.com writes: > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" >--> > >Frank, >After checking for VW Rabbit Diesel engine in my auto parts store >search, I find >the year 1986 works for this radiator. ZAC would sell you another >probably > >not >to expensive as I remember. > >Larry McFarland > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" >To: >Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir > > > > >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" >> >> >>Ok so there I was about to pull my brake pedals out to go weld 'em >> >> >back > > >> up...Realised of course thet I had to remove the rad first...Of >> >> >course > > >> didn't have the right tools but finally got it off..removed padals >> >> >then > > >>noticed the distinct but tiny drip of coolant on the front of the >>rad...AAARG!...I'm sure I didn't damage it but sure enough there is a >>tiny weep in the front corner.... >> >>I assume there is little point in trying to save the thing so I have >> >> >two > > >> questions >> >>1) Is there a way to save these rads >>2) What is the rad from....I thought it was a 1500 VW diesel but the >>local parts place could not find it on their computer....Didn't help >>that I didn't know the year either. >> >>Thanks >> >> Frank >> >> > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:12 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Brake pedal failure From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Interesting to note that the failure started at the rear of the tube weld rather than at the front where one would expect. Closer inspection revealed that the horizontal tube was being crushed down rather than being bent backwards. I wonder if this is why the latest generation pedals have a thicker wall thickness and no gussets. Seems to me the gussets are going to spread this crushing force over a longer length of the tube. As soon as I can figure out why why I can't seem to weld this stuff worth a darn...:) Frank ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:31 AM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake reservoir --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Frank, on your leaky radiator. I had a leak in my '55 Chevy radiator and I took it to a repair shop where they silver soldered it for ten bucks. Depending the leak and where such repairs might be just the thing, Regards, Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:06 AM PST US From: Robert D Johnson Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Woodcomp CS Prop - excellent! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert D Johnson > > The Woodcomp website for those interested is -www.woodcomp.cz > This is the part of the US FAA Sport Pilot regs I am least happy about--no constant speed props. I've read and understand (somewhat) the FAA's arguments on complexity of operation and maintenance, but some of these new electronic props (the Airmaster is another example) are so simple to operate I don't think that argument holds water. Maintenance-wise, I doubt working with a constant-speed prop is any more difficult than many other engine or wiring chores. And the benefits in efficiency and safety (take-off performance in particular) more than outweigh the slight increase in complexity. I hope the FAA will be amenable to reconsidering this restriction on Sport Pilot sometime in the future. Until then, if I want a Sport-Pilot capable XL I have to forgo this wonderful technology :-( -- Bob Johnson ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:48:53 PM PST US From: "Larry McFarland" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Woodcomp CS Prop - excellent! --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" Robert, I believe recently, it was pointed out that one can have an inflight adjustable prop on the plane, but you need a label that says "Do not adjust the propellor in flight" or words to that effect. ;-) I think the inflight adjustable is the best approach to optimizing the 601s. Larry McFarland - 601HDS Do not archive is added to this posting because the subject matter has been discussed and added to the archives before. Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Woodcomp CS Prop - excellent! > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Robert D Johnson > >> >> The Woodcomp website for those interested is -www.woodcomp.cz >> > > This is the part of the US FAA Sport Pilot regs I am least happy > about--no constant speed props. I've read and understand (somewhat) > the FAA's arguments on complexity of operation and maintenance, but > some of these new electronic props (the Airmaster is another example) > are so simple to operate I don't think that argument holds water. > Maintenance-wise, I doubt working with a constant-speed prop > is any more difficult than many other engine or wiring chores. > And the benefits in efficiency and safety (take-off performance > in particular) more than outweigh the slight increase in complexity. > I hope the FAA will be amenable to reconsidering this restriction > on Sport Pilot sometime in the future. Until then, if I want a > Sport-Pilot capable XL I have to forgo this wonderful technology :-( > > -- > Bob Johnson ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:51:20 PM PST US From: Zed Smith Subject: Zenith-List: Thank you, Ron !! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith Been down for two weeks with the worst case of the "flu" ever experienced by man..... Cranked up the computer yesterday to find nearly a hundred "Paris Hilton" e-mails from places we haven't even thought of bombing yet. (But that's an idea) Then there was this on-going discussion of Matco radiators for Diesel jackrabbits....... Either I missed something, more than usual, or the medicine was worse than the flu. Thanks, Ron, for the info on what's actually being discussed! I was afraid high-speed taxi tests on a 701 were going to require a brake fluid cooler. Regards, Zed/701/R912/same old 90+% Nope, do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:28:07 PM PST US From: "Fred B." Subject: Zenith-List: Rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred B." Listers; Have a question. Am getting materials to scratch build the 601. How many rivets do I need to order? Other than ZAC, is there a (cheaper) source for the primo rivets that ZAC recpmmends? Appteciate any comments as to the ease of the home depot wood brake; any plans sources? All help appreciated, thanks... Found the CH601.org, will order aluminum per the listed materials...Assembling tools, table, and ideas. Thanks. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:23 PM PST US From: "Neitzel" Subject: Zenith-List: Brake bleeding --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Neitzel" Howdy Have been a lurker for some time, currently own a Kolb Mark III but plan on building a 701. When I bled the brakes on my M3 I didn't have the luxury of having an official brake bleed device at my disposal, so improvised by filling a lever type oil can with the appropriate fluid and pumped from the bottom. Had to refill the small reservoir several times but worked like a charm. Have been gleaning building tips for the 701 and really appreciate the knowledge shared on this list. Soon to be 701 builder Dick in Wisconsin N961WB ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:32:01 PM PST US From: Hal Rozema Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema Fred B. wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred B." > >Listers; Have a question. Am getting materials to scratch build the 601. How many rivets do I need to order? Other than ZAC, is there a (cheaper) source for the primo rivets that ZAC recpmmends? Appteciate any comments as to the ease of the home depot wood brake; any plans sources? All help appreciated, thanks... Found the CH601.org, will order aluminum per the listed materials...Assembling tools, table, and ideas. Thanks. > > >--------------------------------- > > > > Buy ZAC rivets. They are about the cheapest thing on the whole d___ plane. Get on with the building and don't waste time shopping everything. Another consideration. The DAR will never know the difference, You may never know the difference, but ZAC knows that the same rivets from other sources do not have the same tensil or shear strengt. They test all their rivet shipments and will so state. Do you want to test all your 3rd party rivets for strength, or gamble with your life? I'd rather get the plane built without the additional hassle. JMHO Hal http://ThePlaneFolks.Net Click Construction Gallery