Zenith-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/12/05


Total Messages Posted: 32



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:04 AM - Re: Re: Matco brake mod (Clive Richards)
     2. 05:34 AM - (no subject) (ASHAMRI@wmconnect.com)
     3. 06:54 AM - Re: surprise! (Jari Kaija)
     4. 06:57 AM - Re: Matco Brake Re-work (cgalley)
     5. 07:02 AM - Re: (no subject) (n801bh@netzero.com)
     6. 07:10 AM - Re: Re: Matco brake mod (Paul Moore)
     7. 08:03 AM - Grants Trek (Cdngoose)
     8. 08:43 AM - Re: fuel senders (cgalley)
     9. 01:48 PM - Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
    10. 01:48 PM - Re: prepaint filler for open rivets (Larry McFarland)
    11. 02:07 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Phil Maxson)
    12. 02:08 PM - Engines (Clyde Barcus)
    13. 02:14 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Chris Boultinghouse)
    14. 02:42 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (cgalley)
    15. 02:58 PM - Control cables (BillSewell@aol.com)
    16. 03:12 PM - 2004 Flight Simulator (Robert Schoenberger)
    17. 03:28 PM - Finding Grimes (off topic) (Rick)
    18. 03:37 PM - First flight (Doug Mattson)
    19. 03:37 PM - Re: 2004 Flight Simulator (Jerry Latimer)
    20. 04:07 PM - Re: First flight (n801bh@netzero.com)
    21. 04:18 PM - Re: First flight (Larry McFarland)
    22. 04:22 PM - Re: First flight (ron dewees)
    23. 06:01 PM - Re: Matco Brake Re-work (NYTerminat@aol.com)
    24. 06:16 PM - 701 fuel tank sender (Gdascomb@aol.com)
    25. 07:27 PM - Re: 701 fuel tank sender (Rick)
    26. 07:29 PM - Re: Control cables (Jack Russell)
    27. 07:43 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Mike)
    28. 09:01 PM - Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Brandon Tucker)
    29. 09:07 PM - Fuel quantity indicators (Brandon Tucker)
    30. 09:22 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Craig Payne)
    31. 09:41 PM - Re: Fuel quantity indicators (Craig Payne)
    32. 11:38 PM - Re: 2004 Flight Simulator (Gary Gower)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:04:12 AM PST US
    From: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Matco brake mod
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk> Hi list You can get the information & drawings for maximizing your brakes direct from the Matco web site see http://www.matcomfg.com/brktorq/brktorq.htm I got the info for Ray Lasnier but he has not carried out any mods as yet Clive Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron dewees" <rdewees@mindspring.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake mod > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com> > > Hi listers, > I posted, or at least tried to post the documents for the suggested > Matco modification of the brakes on our 601s to CH601.org, and Matronics > picture share, but don't think they ever showed up. Since then I have > done the brake mod and tried it out today. There is some improvement > but it's not dramatic. > Ron > N601TD--- 39 hours!!! > >


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    Time: 05:34:34 AM PST US
    From: ASHAMRI@wmconnect.com
    Subject: (no subject)
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ASHAMRI@wmconnect.com Mornin' Fellow Builders!! One quick question for those of you with venturi installation experience. How big should the backing plate be for a 3" X 11" venturi? This will be mounted where the spar and a rib intersect. The base is 2" square with a 1 1/2" bolt pattern. I already have a .060 piece of aluminum 2" X 4" cut for a backing plate. Will this be sufficient to back this thing and ensure the stress will not be so much as to cause fatigue and possible cracks down the road? Thanks, Regards, and God Bless!! Rick Do NOT archive, please.


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    Time: 06:54:02 AM PST US
    From: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi>
    Subject: Re: surprise!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jari Kaija" <jari.kaija@pp.inet.fi> > Hey Jari, > What was your delay from? Divorced (...was common-law marriage) and married with other women :-) > The last time I e-mailed ya, you were working on > your welding abilities!!! How is that going? Just fine. -Jari


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    Time: 06:57:36 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Matco Brake Re-work
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> If you look at the over speed spec on a Lycoming there is a mandatory tear down when operated over certain speeds for more than a limited amount of time. In other words the TBO is drastically shortened according to the motor Manufacturer when operated over the design speed. Sure it is experimental. Sure you can run it at any speed you wish. But calling a motor experimental doesn't change its design parameters nor the basic rules of physics. My suggestion should actually lower cruising rpm and noise while increasing speed. Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: <n801bh@netzero.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Matco Brake Re-work > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" > <n801bh@netzero.com> > > > If you are getting 2800 on the ground (static) you need more pitch so you > engine doesn't go over the red-line in the air. You will get more speed > and > a quieter ride. Unless you have a controllable prop. > > Cy Galley - Chair, > AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair > A Service Project of Chapter 75 > EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC > EAA Sport Pilot > ----- Original Message > > And what is redline on an experimental?? Maybe this is modified motor > and he is running a smaller diameter prop.. > > do not archive > > >


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    Time: 07:02:10 AM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Re: (no subject)
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> message posted by: ASHAMRI@wmconnect.com Mornin' Fellow Builders!! One quick question for those of you with venturi installation experience. How big should the backing plate be for a 3" X 11" venturi? This will be mounted where the spar and a rib intersect. The base is 2" square with a 1 1/2" bolt pattern. I already have a .060 piece of aluminum 2" X 4" cut for a backing plate. Will this be sufficient to back this thing and ensure the stress will not be so much as to cause fatigue and possible cracks down the road? Thanks, Regards, and God Bless!! Rick Do NOT archive, please. A spar/ rib intersection is a very stout area in itself. Your 2"x4" backing plate is probably more then good enough. If ya have concerns on how much force is generated by the venturi just mount it on some scrap piece of metal, drive down the road in your car and hold it out the window, that will answer your questions real quick.. Ben Haas N801BH do not archive


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    Time: 07:10:23 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
    Subject: Re: Matco brake mod
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com> This is great information - just what I look for to solve this kind of problem. I've been watching all the brake discussion and have incorporated several of the ideas in my install, since I am at that point in my fuse construction, but this clearly defines the required performance for a functioning system. I couldn't get the link below to work, but found it here: http://matco.elixirlabs.com/index.php?uid=2192&page=2372 Paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clive Richards Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake mod --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards" --> <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk> Hi list You can get the information & drawings for maximizing your brakes direct from the Matco web site see http://www.matcomfg.com/brktorq/brktorq.htm I got the info for Ray Lasnier but he has not carried out any mods as yet Clive Richards ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron dewees" <rdewees@mindspring.com> Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Matco brake mod > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com> > > Hi listers, > I posted, or at least tried to post the documents for the suggested > Matco modification of the brakes on our 601s to CH601.org, and > Matronics picture share, but don't think they ever showed up. Since > then I have done the brake mod and tried it out today. There is some > improvement but it's not dramatic. > Ron > N601TD--- 39 hours!!!


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    Time: 08:03:10 AM PST US
    From: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Grants Trek
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> For those of you who want a good story, Grant Corriveau's trip in a 601XL has been posted to the Stories section of www.ch601.org Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751 President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com do not archive


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    Time: 08:43:45 AM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: fuel senders
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> This TRUE but only when "using auto fuel with ETBE or MTBE additives will affect the reading of the fuel gauge, compared to aviation gasoline or auto fuel without ETBE, MTBE, or ethanol. " - Cessna The STCs that are sold do not permit using alcohol, MTBE, or ETBE. You should not use those in your experimental either. Reading are the same if your are using car gas or avgas when you do not use oxygenated fuels Even float gage systems not immune. According to Cessna research: "Higher ETBE densities yield fuel level indications 3 percent higher than those experienced with 100LL Avgas on float type gage systems. " http://www.eaa.org/education/fuel/cessna_study.html Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Faulkner" <tomtafcor@triton.net> Subject: Zenith-List: fuel senders > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom Faulkner" <tomtafcor@triton.net> > > David: If you ever plan on using auto fuel, a capacitance sender will > give > a very different reading than 100LL. Those of us using auto engines stick > with the float type so we can mix fuels if necessary. > > >


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    Time: 01:48:57 PM PST US
    From: Crvsecretary@aol.com
    Subject: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com Hello Fellow Listers: One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and elevator trim tab? This stuff is TOUGH !! I've tried fast speeds, slow speeds, dry, lubricant, it's still tough & slow ! Any suggestions? I always thought stainless was fast speeds slow feeds - yes ?? Thanks in advance. Tracy Smith Naugatuck, CT 601xl tail 95% do not archive


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    Time: 01:48:57 PM PST US
    From: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
    Subject: Re: prepaint filler for open rivets
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com> Thanks Bill, You're right of course, there's just too much to be made of the process of filling rivets as a prepaint process. Some will do it, but after looking at a good number of Zeniths painted, and the processes used, I've decided, as the majority of you have, to skip that part as well. It seems that properly painted, the rivets get filled protection and cover that in the end can be inconsequential to a good looking aircraft. Do appreciate the input from everyone on this questionable issue. Larry McFarland - 601HDS JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com > >Larry, on filling all those rivet heads. I to thought about it then I looked >at a 210 that has raised heads. Looked okay. The problem with filling >thousands of heads may not be the slight weakening of each individual sanded rivet >which you could never compute. The problem is that no matter what you fill them >with, because of stress, weather, heat and cold, and general flex some of the >fills will pop out. Then you have an airplane with measles. If speed is your >goal for use of your time spend it wet sanding and high speed buffing would >pay a greater dividends. Best regards, Bill of Georgia > > > >


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    Time: 02:07:54 PM PST US
    From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> I just left mine long and bent it over at a 90 degree angle. I've seen this done on several other planes. Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair >From: Crvsecretary@aol.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com > >Hello Fellow Listers: > >One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the >stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and elevator trim >tab? >This stuff is TOUGH !!


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    Time: 02:08:19 PM PST US
    From: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net>
    Subject: Engines
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net> First, I readily agree the Lycoming and Continental engines are very reliable, however, I owned a Grumman Tiger with a partner in the early eighties that we leased back to an FBO at Allegheny Airport. A student with an instructor had an engine out and made a forced landing in a Illinois wheatfield. The engine was sent to Lycoming which eventually accepted responsibility and reimbursed us. The same FBO had another leaseback make a forced landing in the Pittsburgh area. A few years ago I lost two friends, Don and Edith Mercer of Hendersonville Tennessee, when the crankshaft snapped in their 210 and they crashed in Indiana. I am simply pointing out the inherent risk involved in our sport that can only be minimized, not eliminated, regardless of our engine choice. Clyde Barcus 601 XL Builder DO NOT ARCHIVE


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    Time: 02:14:53 PM PST US
    From: "Chris Boultinghouse" <sonex260@austin.rr.com>
    Subject: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse" <sonex260@austin.rr.com> Tracy, Actually, you don't drill the pin. You drill the barrell of the hinge and insert the safety wire or cotter pin to captuer the hinge pin. This means the pin needs to be just slightly shorter than the overall length of the hinge. A less elegant (and more permanent) solution is suggested in the older Zenith plans.... "Smush" the end of the hinge so the pin can't come out! -Chris DO NOT ARCHIVE > -----Original Message----- > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com > > Hello Fellow Listers: > > One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the > stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and > elevator trim tab? > This stuff is TOUGH !!


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    Time: 02:42:48 PM PST US
    From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
    Subject: Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org> A couple of ways to safety the pin. Bending 90 as the previous writer said. You can then make a safety wire loop around something or to a flange on bulkhead out pf the way. Another was is Cessna's. Make the pin a little short drill the end knuckle of the hinge for safety wire or a cotter key. You can always crush the end knuckle to retain a shorter pin from escaping. Rivet an L-shaped piece of aluminum that blocks the end of the pin. You can bend it so the end will go in to a hole. The requires a little longer pin. But I have never seen anyone drill it. Cy Galley - Chair, AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair A Service Project of Chapter 75 EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com> > > I just left mine long and bent it over at a 90 degree angle. I've seen > this > done on several other planes. > > Phil Maxson > 601XL/Corvair > >>From: Crvsecretary@aol.com >>Subject: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com >> >>Hello Fellow Listers: >> >>One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the >>stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and elevator trim >>tab? >>This stuff is TOUGH !! > > >


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    Time: 02:58:28 PM PST US
    From: BillSewell@aol.com
    Subject: Control cables
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: BillSewell@aol.com Anyone have any helpful hints on making the control cables? I have made one end of each of the rudder and elevator cables attached to shackles which are attached to their respective mountings. The other ends have been run through the fairleads to their respective control horns. My question is how do I make sure that when I attach the other end and adjust the turnbuckle that I stay in the required range (i.e. between 3 threads out and 4 in on the turn buckle?) Bill Sewell


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    Time: 03:12:54 PM PST US
    From: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: 2004 Flight Simulator
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net> List . . . One of the members of our flying club brought a Flight Simulator program to a recent meeting when he gave a talk on Glenn Curtis. Curtis made engines for the Jenny, and the F/S program had a Jenny. The member demonstrated what it was like to fly this aircraft. The F/S program is pretty impressive. Question - is anyone familiar with any Zenith 701 downloads for F/S 2004? And if so, how realistic are the flight characteristics? It would be fun to "fly" a bit while building. Also, do you have any recommendations on the best yoke and pedals to purchase? Thx. Robert Schoenberger 55% 701


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    Time: 03:28:18 PM PST US
    From: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Finding Grimes (off topic)
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com> I have a Grimes 14VDC rotating beacon pulled from my first aircraft, a 1946 Cessna 140. I would love to put that lil red beacon on my homebuilt Zenith 701. The beacon draws about 6.5 Amps, that I imagine is fine. However she is really loud and surges from time to time. I guess she at least needs brushes and bushes...anyone know where I can get this sentimental little beacon rebuilt? Thanks, Rick ps (ok to laugh now) DO NOT ARCHIVE Rick Orlando, FL. USA http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html ---------------------------------


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    Time: 03:37:51 PM PST US
    From: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
    Subject: First flight
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com> Today was the first flight of N824M. A 601XL with CAM100 power. Doug Mattson


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    Time: 03:37:51 PM PST US
    From: "Jerry Latimer" <jlatimer1@cox.net>
    Subject: 2004 Flight Simulator
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jerry Latimer" <jlatimer1@cox.net> Try http://zenithair.com/misc/flightsim04.html I have flown the 701 but the 601 doesn't seem as responsive as the demo. Jerry Latimer 601 HDS Installing motor do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Schoenberger Subject: Zenith-List: 2004 Flight Simulator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net> List . . . One of the members of our flying club brought a Flight Simulator program to a recent meeting when he gave a talk on Glenn Curtis. Curtis made engines for the Jenny, and the F/S program had a Jenny. The member demonstrated what it was like to fly this aircraft. The F/S program is pretty impressive.


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    Time: 04:07:16 PM PST US
    From: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com> Today was the first flight of N824M. A 601XL with CAM100 power. Doug Mattson Way KOOL !!!!! now to get that grin off your face... Congrats to you... Ben Haas N801BH do not archive


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    Time: 04:18:50 PM PST US
    From: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com> Congratulations Doug, Pleased to see another flitting from the nest of constructon. You have to keep us abreast of your performance with this engine setup. Very interested to hear. Larry McFarland - 601HDS Stratus Ram Performance 55 hrs Doug Mattson wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com> > >Today was the first flight of N824M. A 601XL with CAM100 power. > >Doug Mattson > > > >


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    Time: 04:22:00 PM PST US
    From: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Re: First flight
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com> Doug Mattson wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com> > >Today was the first flight of N824M. A 601XL with CAM100 power. > >Doug Mattson > > Way to go Doug! More details, more details! Happy for you ROn N601TD 39 hours


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    Time: 06:01:48 PM PST US
    From: NYTerminat@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Matco Brake Re-work
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com With all the talk and solutions to the Matco brake cylinder and the Zenith 601 pedals, Does anyone know if this mod applies to the 701 too? Bob Spudis CH701 Rt wing 50 %


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    Time: 06:16:05 PM PST US
    From: Gdascomb@aol.com
    Subject: 701 fuel tank sender
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gdascomb@aol.com Builders: I am about to install the VDO fuel sender (top mount) . Did anyone use a gasket sealant on the rubber gasket? None is shown, so I'm not sure. George 701, Rudder,Stabilizer,Elevator done, Right wing 85%. Sugar Land, TX


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    Time: 07:27:24 PM PST US
    From: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 701 fuel tank sender
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com> George, I just finished both of mine and right or wrong, I did not use any sealant. They tested fine. (so far). Low & slow, Rick Gdascomb@aol.com wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gdascomb@aol.com Builders: I am about to install the VDO fuel sender (top mount) . Did anyone use a gasket sealant on the rubber gasket? None is shown, so I'm not sure. George 701, Rudder,Stabilizer,Elevator done, Right wing 85%. Sugar Land, TX Rick Orlando, FL. USA http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html ---------------------------------


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    Time: 07:29:36 PM PST US
    From: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Control cables
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net> Bill; The cable and ends are pretty cheap from aircraft spruce. Just get some extra and experiment. I ended up making most of my cables twice before I figured out that you can use a spring clamp to hold the cable assembly tight until you squeeze it. Jack in Cloivs Ca BillSewell@aol.com wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: BillSewell@aol.com Anyone have any helpful hints on making the control cables? I have made one end of each of the rudder and elevator cables attached to shackles which are attached to their respective mountings. The other ends have been run through the fairleads to their respective control horns. My question is how do I make sure that when I attach the other end and adjust the turnbuckle that I stay in the required range (i.e. between 3 threads out and 4 in on the turn buckle?) Bill Sewell


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    Time: 07:43:18 PM PST US
    From: "Mike" <wizard-24@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike" <wizard-24@juno.com> This is a question that has always perplexed me too, in that it would be nice to retain the hinge pin, but still be able to remove it later if needed. None of the methods mentioned so far seems to accomplish that, except for the idea of riveting an L angle to block it....although I'm not sure how that would be possible without interfering with the movable surface. Mike Fortunato 601XL do not archive Now includes pop-up blocker! Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today!


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    Time: 09:01:14 PM PST US
    From: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> Mike, One of the posts did explain a method allowing for hinge pin removal, but it was not obvious. On the Varga Kachinas I fly on weekends (see link below) the aileron hinge pins are bent 90 deg on one end, and safety wired in position through two small holes in the aileron skin. To remove, just cut the safety wire, and pull the pin out. Preflight includes checking the safety wire. Not the most elegant solution, in my opinion, but it works. http://www.barnstorming.com/aeropress/cgi_bin/xfer.cgi?page=prod_combat.php#top R/ Brandon __________________________________ http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 09:07:31 PM PST US
    From: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Fuel quantity indicators
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> Gents, I am going with the Stratomaster Ultra engine monitor, which only has input for one fuel tank. Since my system is set up to pump wing tanks to the header tank, this will work fine; -but I would love to have some type of digital readout of wing tank quantities. I would like for it to look something like the Ray Allen trim indicators. First, does anyone know what type of input signal the trim indicators receive? Second, does anyone know of a simple indicator of some type that accepts 0 - 80 ohms input? Since my entire panel will be glass, I would like to avoid analog gages. Thanks, Brandon Tucker __________________________________ http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250


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    Time: 09:22:48 PM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com> On the Cessna 172 I'm training in they bent extra hinge wire into an eye and put a bolt through it. Remove the bolt and you can remove the hinge wire. -- Craig Mike wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike" <wizard-24@juno.com> > > > This is a question that has always perplexed me too, in that it would be nice to retain the hinge pin, but still be able to remove it later if needed. None of the methods mentioned so far seems to accomplish that, except for the idea of riveting an L angle to block it....although I'm not sure how that would be possible without interfering with the movable surface. > > Mike Fortunato > 601XL > > do not archive > > Now includes pop-up blocker! > Only $14.95/month -visit http://www.juno.com/surf to sign up today! > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:41:13 PM PST US
    From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
    Subject: Re: Fuel quantity indicators
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com> The Ray Allen indicators are simply fed a voltage between 0 and 12 VDC (typically from their position sensors which are potentiometers). I'm in the same situation as you (601 XL with dual tanks and a Stratomaster). What I did was buy MGL Instruments' Fuel Flow 3 which accepts dual senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/maxi.html#FF-3). Or if you can wait - MGL has a new RDAC which accepts input from two senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/RDACX.pdf) They will soon announce a new Stratomaster with a color display (the "Enigma") which works with the RDAC-X. They also tell me that it is likely they will offer software upgrades for the older Stratomasters which will fully utilize the expanded capabilities of the RDAC-X. -- Craig Brandon Tucker wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com> > > Gents, > > I am going with the Stratomaster Ultra engine > monitor, which only has input for one fuel tank. > Since my system is set up to pump wing tanks to the > header tank, this will work fine; -but I would love > to have some type of digital readout of wing tank > quantities. I would like for it to look something > like the Ray Allen trim indicators. First, does > anyone know what type of input signal the trim > indicators receive? Second, does anyone know of a > simple indicator of some type that accepts 0 - 80 ohms > input? Since my entire panel will be glass, I would > like to avoid analog gages. > > Thanks, > > Brandon Tucker > > > > __________________________________ > http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:38:45 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: 2004 Flight Simulator
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Hi Robert, Just one comment: With the FS 2004, the Computer Lists and normal home chores, you will not have time to build the plane... ;-) :-) Saludos Gary Gower Do not archive. Robert Schoenberger <hrs1@frontiernet.net> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" --------------------------------- List . . . One of the members of our flying club brought a Flight Simulator program to a recent meeting when he gave a talk on Glenn Curtis. Curtis made engines for the Jenny, and the F/S program had a Jenny. The member demonstrated what it was like to fly this aircraft. The F/S program is pretty impressive. Question - is anyone familiar with any Zenith 701 downloads for F/S 2004? And if so, how realistic are the flight characteristics? It would be fun to "fly" a bit while building. Also, do you have any recommendations on the best yoke and pedals to purchase? Thx. Robert Schoenberger 55% 701 ---------------------------------




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