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1. 12:34 AM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
2. 05:58 AM - Re: First flight (Al Young)
3. 06:05 AM - Paint (Al Young)
4. 07:03 AM - Re: Fuel quantity indicators (Larry Martin)
5. 07:06 AM - Re: Paint (n801bh@netzero.com)
6. 07:25 AM - Sun-N-Fun (Cdngoose)
7. 08:04 AM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Larry McFarland)
8. 08:12 AM - Re: Fuel quantity indicators (Paul Moore)
9. 10:03 AM - Re: Fuel quantity indicators (Craig Payne)
10. 01:45 PM - Re: Fuel quantity indicators (Paul Moore)
11. 01:47 PM - Re: Paint (R. Saarinen)
12. 03:15 PM - elevator trim (Doug Mattson)
13. 03:18 PM - Cover strip info on an HD (Trevor Page)
14. 03:35 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Matt & Jo)
15. 04:59 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
16. 05:02 PM - Re: elevator trim (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
17. 05:38 PM - Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire (John Maselli)
18. 05:39 PM - New 601XL Elevator Trim Design (Joe Kerr)
19. 07:53 PM - How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? (Phil Maxson)
20. 08:32 PM - Re: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? (Jerry Latimer)
21. 08:38 PM - Re: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? (Chuck Deiterich)
22. 08:50 PM - Re: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? (Craig Payne)
23. 09:19 PM - Re: elevator trim (R. Saarinen)
24. 10:21 PM - Re: elevator trim (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
25. 10:58 PM - Re: elevator trim (Craig Payne)
26. 11:21 PM - Re: elevator trim (bryanmmartin@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
You don't drill the pin, you cut it about a quarter inch short on each end and
drill a hole through the aluminum hinge material then put safety wire in the holes
to trap the pin in between. Or, as some have suggested, leave the pin long
on one end and bend it over and saftey it at that end. Either method will allow
removal of tht pin later. If you cut it short, you will have to use a small
pin punch to remove it but you would rarely have to remove it.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
>
> Hello Fellow Listers:
>
> One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the
> stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and elevator trim tab?
> This stuff is TOUGH !!
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Doug- Congratulations to you. Make sure you give us some "data" on your XL
and engine performance. Great day for you. Safe Flying!!
Al Young
601XL- Ready to paint
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Could anyone who has painted their XL or HDS give me an idea on how much paint
to buy? I plan on using DuPont Chroma-one Single Stage and will have paint on
100 per cent of the airframe.
Al Young
N601AY
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel quantity indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
The RAF 2000 Gyroplane use a digital indicator and bendable probe for their
fuel tank. I've used two of them and they seem to work great, I didn't keep
the gyros that long. That may be why I'm still kicking. You might check
with them, they are friendly people. I'm sure they will sell you a set up.
www.raf2000.com.
Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brandon Tucker" <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel quantity indicators
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
>
> Gents,
>
> I am going with the Stratomaster Ultra engine
> monitor, which only has input for one fuel tank.
> Since my system is set up to pump wing tanks to the
> header tank, this will work fine; -but I would love
> to have some type of digital readout of wing tank
> quantities. I would like for it to look something
> like the Ray Allen trim indicators. First, does
> anyone know what type of input signal the trim
> indicators receive? Second, does anyone know of a
> simple indicator of some type that accepts 0 - 80 ohms
> input? Since my entire panel will be glass, I would
> like to avoid analog gages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Tucker
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
Could anyone who has painted their XL or HDS give me an idea on how much paint
to buy? I plan on using DuPont Chroma-one Single Stage and will have paint on
100 per cent of the airframe.
Al Young
N601AY
My 801 took a little over four gallons, thats including both colors.
a 601 will need about 2 or a little more I bet.
Ben N801BH
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
The Webmasters BBQ: Thursday April 14, 5:00 pm:
"www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com webmasters will be hosting a BBQ at
their campsite for builders and wannabes of Zenith Aircraft. Bring your
drinks and lawn chairs and meet many of those builders you know from
email postings. We'll supply the burgers and dogs (no-obligation
donations will be happily accepted). The BBQs will be fired up from
5:00 pm until everyone is fed on April 14th. Please RSVP using the
SUN-N-FUN BBQ FORM so that we may know how many to prepare for and to
have your name tag ready. The location will be posted at the Zenith
booth along with the pre-registered name tags. We look forward to seeing
you there!"
So Far we have a pre register of 62 people it should prove to be quite
an event. Remember we are fellow builders as well with no commercial
intent towards this event. The Folks from Zenith are also saying that
they will drop by but cannot commit to it.
Mark/Jon/David
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Mike,
My elevator hinges are 2-1/2" short of the tips each end and the hinge
is drilled for a 1/32" cotter each end.
The captured hinge pin is removed by a spare hinge wire which is used to
push the wire out far enough to grab it
and pull the rest of the way. I think the a snug fitting hinge needs to
be lubed and spun in a scotchbrite pad for a
while to reduce it for a good fit and ease of removal. At least this is
what I ultimately did and it works.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
Mike wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike" <wizard-24@juno.com>
>
>
>This is a question that has always perplexed me too, in that it would be nice
to retain the hinge pin, but still be able to remove it later if needed.
>Mike Fortunato
>601XL
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel quantity indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
I've been looking at the Aveo Tech instruments, in particular their FF3 fuel
gauge that monitors 3 tanks (they also have a FF2 for dual tanks). Very
inexpensive for all their capability. http://www.aveousa.com/
I have installed the aux tanks and am trying to figure out how to monitor
and manage 4 of them. Haven't figured it all out yet. I'm thinking some
combination of fuel flow metering for total fuel remaining calculations,
coupled with digital or analog tank level indicator(s) for tank selection.
I installed the std. VDO senders which seem to be compatible with almost all
the glass gauge packages.
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel quantity indicators
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
The Ray Allen indicators are simply fed a voltage between 0 and 12 VDC
(typically from their position sensors which are potentiometers).
I'm in the same situation as you (601 XL with dual tanks and a
Stratomaster). What I did was buy MGL Instruments' Fuel Flow 3 which
accepts dual senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/maxi.html#FF-3). Or
if you can wait - MGL has a new RDAC which accepts input from two
senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/RDACX.pdf) They will soon
announce a new Stratomaster with a color display (the "Enigma") which
works with the RDAC-X. They also tell me that it is likely they will
offer software upgrades for the older Stratomasters which will fully
utilize the expanded capabilities of the RDAC-X.
-- Craig
Brandon Tucker wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
>
> Gents,
>
> I am going with the Stratomaster Ultra engine
> monitor, which only has input for one fuel tank.
> Since my system is set up to pump wing tanks to the
> header tank, this will work fine; -but I would love
> to have some type of digital readout of wing tank
> quantities. I would like for it to look something
> like the Ray Allen trim indicators. First, does
> anyone know what type of input signal the trim
> indicators receive? Second, does anyone know of a
> simple indicator of some type that accepts 0 - 80 ohms
> input? Since my entire panel will be glass, I would
> like to avoid analog gages.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon Tucker
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel quantity indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
The Aveo FF-3 is the same as MGL's FF-3. If you read the manual you will
see that it only monitors two senders. The difference between the FF-2
and the FF-3 is size: the FF-2 is "SmartSingle" (2.25" dia.) while the
FF-3 is a "MaxiSingle" (3.5" dia.)
-- Craig
Paul Moore wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>
> I've been looking at the Aveo Tech instruments, in particular their FF3 fuel
> gauge that monitors 3 tanks (they also have a FF2 for dual tanks). Very
> inexpensive for all their capability. http://www.aveousa.com/
>
> I have installed the aux tanks and am trying to figure out how to monitor
> and manage 4 of them. Haven't figured it all out yet. I'm thinking some
> combination of fuel flow metering for total fuel remaining calculations,
> coupled with digital or analog tank level indicator(s) for tank selection.
> I installed the std. VDO senders which seem to be compatible with almost all
> the glass gauge packages.
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel quantity indicators
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> The Ray Allen indicators are simply fed a voltage between 0 and 12 VDC
> (typically from their position sensors which are potentiometers).
>
> I'm in the same situation as you (601 XL with dual tanks and a
> Stratomaster). What I did was buy MGL Instruments' Fuel Flow 3 which
> accepts dual senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/maxi.html#FF-3). Or
> if you can wait - MGL has a new RDAC which accepts input from two
> senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/RDACX.pdf) They will soon
> announce a new Stratomaster with a color display (the "Enigma") which
> works with the RDAC-X. They also tell me that it is likely they will
> offer software upgrades for the older Stratomasters which will fully
> utilize the expanded capabilities of the RDAC-X.
>
> -- Craig
>
> Brandon Tucker wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Gents,
>>
>> I am going with the Stratomaster Ultra engine
>>monitor, which only has input for one fuel tank.
>>Since my system is set up to pump wing tanks to the
>>header tank, this will work fine; -but I would love
>>to have some type of digital readout of wing tank
>>quantities. I would like for it to look something
>>like the Ray Allen trim indicators. First, does
>>anyone know what type of input signal the trim
>>indicators receive? Second, does anyone know of a
>>simple indicator of some type that accepts 0 - 80 ohms
>>input? Since my entire panel will be glass, I would
>>like to avoid analog gages.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Brandon Tucker
>>
>>
>>
>>__________________________________
>>http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Fuel quantity indicators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Well, you're right Craig - now I'm trying to figure out where I got the idea
they were a 3 way gauge! Thanks for setting me straight.
Do not archive
Paul
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel quantity indicators
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
The Aveo FF-3 is the same as MGL's FF-3. If you read the manual you will
see that it only monitors two senders. The difference between the FF-2
and the FF-3 is size: the FF-2 is "SmartSingle" (2.25" dia.) while the
FF-3 is a "MaxiSingle" (3.5" dia.)
-- Craig
Paul Moore wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>
> I've been looking at the Aveo Tech instruments, in particular their
> FF3 fuel gauge that monitors 3 tanks (they also have a FF2 for dual
> tanks). Very inexpensive for all their capability.
> http://www.aveousa.com/
>
> I have installed the aux tanks and am trying to figure out how to
> monitor and manage 4 of them. Haven't figured it all out yet. I'm
> thinking some combination of fuel flow metering for total fuel
> remaining calculations, coupled with digital or analog tank level
> indicator(s) for tank selection. I installed the std. VDO senders
> which seem to be compatible with almost all the glass gauge packages.
>
> Paul
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
> Payne
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel quantity indicators
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne
> --> <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> The Ray Allen indicators are simply fed a voltage between 0 and 12 VDC
> (typically from their position sensors which are potentiometers).
>
> I'm in the same situation as you (601 XL with dual tanks and a
> Stratomaster). What I did was buy MGL Instruments' Fuel Flow 3 which
> accepts dual senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/maxi.html#FF-3). Or
> if you can wait - MGL has a new RDAC which accepts input from two
> senders (http://www.mglavionics.co.za/Docs/RDACX.pdf) They will soon
> announce a new Stratomaster with a color display (the "Enigma") which
> works with the RDAC-X. They also tell me that it is likely they will
> offer software upgrades for the older Stratomasters which will fully
> utilize the expanded capabilities of the RDAC-X.
>
> -- Craig
>
> Brandon Tucker wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Gents,
>>
>> I am going with the Stratomaster Ultra engine
>>monitor, which only has input for one fuel tank.
>>Since my system is set up to pump wing tanks to the
>>header tank, this will work fine; -but I would love
>>to have some type of digital readout of wing tank
>>quantities. I would like for it to look something
>>like the Ray Allen trim indicators. First, does
>>anyone know what type of input signal the trim
>>indicators receive? Second, does anyone know of a
>>simple indicator of some type that accepts 0 - 80 ohms
>>input? Since my entire panel will be glass, I would
>>like to avoid analog gages.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Brandon Tucker
>>
>>
>>
>>__________________________________
>>http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "R. Saarinen" <sales@steelframe.com.au>
About 5 litres
----- Original Message -----
From: <n801bh@netzero.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com"
> <n801bh@netzero.com>
>
>
> Could anyone who has painted their XL or HDS give me an idea on how much
> paint
> to buy? I plan on using DuPont Chroma-one Single Stage and will have
> paint on
> 100 per cent of the airframe.
> Al Young
> N601AY
>
>
> My 801 took a little over four gallons, thats including both colors.
> a 601 will need about 2 or a little more I bet.
>
>
> Ben N801BH
>
> do not archive
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down. Is the
easiest way to fix this redoing the horizontal stabilizer mounts and tilting
the front of the stabilizer down?
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| Subject: | Cover strip info on an HD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Can anyone give me some tips about the cover strip on an HD?
I'm in the finishing stages now, I hung the wings yesterday and started
on the cover strip. What I'm not fully understanding is the bottom
front retention support on page 6-V-15. The assembly is listed as
"Detail A".
I see that the part shows 2 A5 rivets with a 3/16" washer as a spacer
for the bottom skin but I don't get how you are supposed to install
this as the gap between the outboard and inboard wings is too narrow
once you get the wing on. Am I supposed to bolt this assembly to 6V15-1
with the cover strip and carefully hang the wing then screw in the 2
screws at the trailing edge of the cover strip during wing
installation??
Does anyone have a better method of securing the bottom front of the
cover strip?? I don't have a single picture of the assembly in my photo
collection!
The plans on the same page also show some pressure tabs (3 of them)
used to keep the cover strip in place against the top skins because of
lift. Anyone have a neat tricks on how to do this?
Thanks in advance
Trevor Page
601HD. Cover strip is the LAST thing to do!!! Woohoo
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| Subject: | Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Boy do I feel dumb. I actually did drill the pin. What a pain. Wow I wish
I had asked this question earlier.
Do not archive
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> A couple of ways to safety the pin. Bending 90 as the previous writer
> said. You can then make a safety wire loop around something or to a flange
> on bulkhead out pf the way.
> Another was is Cessna's. Make the pin a little short drill the end knuckle
> of the hinge for safety wire or a cotter key. You can always crush the end
> knuckle to retain a shorter pin from escaping.
> Rivet an L-shaped piece of aluminum that blocks the end of the pin.
> You can bend it so the end will go in to a hole. The requires a little
> longer pin.
> But I have never seen anyone drill it.
>
> Cy Galley - Chair,
> AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
> A Service Project of Chapter 75
> EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
> EAA Sport Pilot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>>
>> I just left mine long and bent it over at a 90 degree angle. I've seen
>> this
>> done on several other planes.
>>
>> Phil Maxson
>> 601XL/Corvair
>>
>>>From: Crvsecretary@aol.com
>>>Subject: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
>>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
>>>
>>>Hello Fellow Listers:
>>>
>>>One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the
>>>stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and elevator trim
>>>tab?
>>>This stuff is TOUGH !!
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Please don't feel that way, Matt - you had no idea how dumb I felt ASKING it!
My deep thanks to all that replied...this list is truely is a community that
helps one another.
I'm in the home stretch of the tail final assembly and the wing kit is on
order !
Thank you again, everyone.
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl tail 95%
do not archive
PS - Any other builders in CT ??
In a message dated 3/13/2005 6:35:58 PM Eastern Standard Time,
archermj@swbell.net writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Boy do I feel dumb. I actually did drill the pin. What a pain. Wow I wish
I had asked this question earlier.
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Need a few details, Doug.....is it JUST the trim tab that is at full
extension down ? Is this an XL elevator driven by a Ray Allen servo? Is the
elevator trim tab in the center of it's travel? If not, hook up a 9 volt battery
to the servo and cycle it to center.
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl tail 95%
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In a message dated 3/13/2005 6:16:26 PM Eastern Standard Time,
dougmattson@isp.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down.
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| Subject: | Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire |
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
bryanmmartin@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Drilling Piano Hinge for Safety Wire
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
You don't drill the pin, you cut it about a quarter inch short on each
end and drill a hole through the aluminum hinge material then put safety
wire in the holes to trap the pin in between. Or, as some have
suggested, leave the pin long on one end and bend it over and saftey it
at that end. Either method will allow removal of tht pin later. If you
cut it short, you will have to use a small pin punch to remove it but
you would rarely have to remove it.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
>
> Hello Fellow Listers:
>
> One quick, possibly dumb question - what's the secret to drilling the
> stainless steel pin in the piano hinge for the elevator and elevator
trim tab?
> This stuff is TOUGH !!
>
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| Subject: | New 601XL Elevator Trim Design |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joe Kerr" <kerrjf@charter.net>
I don't recall seeing any news about the new elevator trim tab design for the 601XL
on the list, if there was, I missed it. I just received my tail kit and
the trim tab is no longer recessed but is now installed aft of the elevator trailing
edge and is full span, 955MM long. A few solid rivets are used on the
trim tab, guess I'll need to learn to use (and find) a rivet squeezer after all.
Looks like this will address the need for more trim effectiveness that has
been discussed before on this list.
Joe
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| Subject: | How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
I have installed 2 55 Watt halogen driving lights as my taxi/landing lights.
They are Pilot Brand PL-1067C units, but I can't seem to find the amperage
for them. I'm doing the wiring now, and can't find the information. Does
anyone know?
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jerry Latimer" <jlatimer1@cox.net>
55 watts / 12 volts = 4.6 amps
Jerry Latimer
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phil Maxson
Subject: Zenith-List: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
I have installed 2 55 Watt halogen driving lights as my taxi/landing lights.
They are Pilot Brand PL-1067C units, but I can't seem to find the amperage
for them. I'm doing the wiring now, and can't find the information. Does
anyone know?
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
voltage X current = watts. 55w + 55w = 110 w
110w/12v = 9 amps for two bulbs one bulb would be half or 4.5 amps. If the
bulbs are 55 watts for 12 volts they be a bit higher for 14 volts from an
alternator.
Chuck D.
N701TX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>
> I have installed 2 55 Watt halogen driving lights as my taxi/landing
lights.
> They are Pilot Brand PL-1067C units, but I can't seem to find the
amperage
> for them. I'm doing the wiring now, and can't find the information. Does
> anyone know?
>
> Phil Maxson
> 601XL/Corvair
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: How Many Amps will a 55 W Halogen Bulb Draw? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
Ignoring "inrush" current the formula for DC is watts = amps * volts or
amps = watts / volts. So if those are 12 volt lamps they should draw
about 4.6 amps.
But filament lamps draw a lot more before the filament heats up (that's
the inrush). So you may have to wire and fuse for the initial surge.
-- Craig
Phil Maxson wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
>
> I have installed 2 55 Watt halogen driving lights as my taxi/landing lights.
> They are Pilot Brand PL-1067C units, but I can't seem to find the amperage
> for them. I'm doing the wiring now, and can't find the information. Does
> anyone know?
>
> Phil Maxson
> 601XL/Corvair
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "R. Saarinen" <sales@steelframe.com.au>
Can someone tell me the required elevator trim size for the 601
as on the plans the size given seems too small.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: elevator trim
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <dougmattson@isp.com>
>
> I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down. Is the
> easiest way to fix this redoing the horizontal stabilizer mounts and
> tilting
> the front of the stabilizer down?
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
I couldn't get my 601XL to trim out at all in cruise until I lowered the leading
edge of the stabilizer about half an inch. Now I can trim it out down to about
60 mph at cruise power settings. I still can't trim it out at low power settings
or anything beyond 5 degrees of flap.
If you are using full up trim at cruise speed then you probably will have to lower
the nose of the stabilizer. I'm thinking of adding a linkage to the flaps
to assist the trim tab, possibly a cable to the flap actuater with a couple of
pullys and a bungie cord to connect it to the elevator cable.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson"
>
> I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down. Is the
> easiest way to fix this redoing the horizontal stabilizer mounts and tilting
> the front of the stabilizer down?
I couldn't get my 601XL to trim out at all in cruise until I lowered the leading
edge of the stabilizer about half an inch. Now I can trim it out down to about
60 mph at cruise power settings. I still can't trim it out at low power settings
or anything beyond 5 degrees of flap.
If you are using full up trim at cruise speed then you probably willhave to lower
the nose of the stabilizer. I'm thinking of adding a linkage to the flaps to
assist the trim tab, possibly a cable to the flap actuater with a couple of
pullys and a bungie cord to connect it to the elevator cable.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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-------------- Original message --------------
-- Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <DOUGMATTSON@ISP.COM>
I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down. Is the
easiest way to fix this redoing the horizontal stabilizer mounts and tilting
the front of the stabilizer down?
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
There is an electronic box that does this. See:
http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm
I did buy one (to allow me to set my flaps to 10, 20 or 40 degrees at
the push of a button) but have yet to install it. No, it isn't my site.
No, I have no financial interest in the product. No, I have never been a
member of the Communist Party.
-- Craig
bryanmmartin@comcast.net wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
>
> I couldn't get my 601XL to trim out at all in cruise until I lowered the leading
edge of the stabilizer about half an inch. Now I can trim it out down to about
60 mph at cruise power settings. I still can't trim it out at low power settings
or anything beyond 5 degrees of flap.
>
> If you are using full up trim at cruise speed then you probably will have to
lower the nose of the stabilizer. I'm thinking of adding a linkage to the flaps
to assist the trim tab, possibly a cable to the flap actuater with a couple
of pullys and a bungie cord to connect it to the elevator cable.
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
> do not archive
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson"
>>
>>I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down. Is the
>>easiest way to fix this redoing the horizontal stabilizer mounts and tilting
>>the front of the stabilizer down?
>
>
> I couldn't get my 601XL to trim out at all in cruise until I lowered the leading
edge of the stabilizer about half an inch. Now I can trim it out down to about
60 mph at cruise power settings. I still can't trim it out at low power settings
or anything beyond 5 degrees of flap.
>
> If you are using full up trim at cruise speed then you probably willhave to lower
the nose of the stabilizer. I'm thinking of adding a linkage to the flaps
to assist the trim tab, possibly a cable to the flap actuater with a couple of
pullys and a bungie cord to connect it to the elevator cable.
> --
> Bryan Martin
> N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
> do not archive
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
>
> -- Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Mattson" <DOUGMATTSON@ISP.COM>
>
> I notice that me elevator trim tab is pointing all the way down. Is the
> easiest way to fix this redoing the horizontal stabilizer mounts and tilting
> the front of the stabilizer down?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: elevator trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: bryanmmartin@comcast.net
You don't understand, My trim tab is physically incapable of dealing with flap
settings beyond about 5 degrees. The trim tab limits out and still won't trim
the airplane. No electronic box will solve this problem. I need somthing that
will literally pull harder on the elevator when the flaps are down.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> There is an electronic box that does this. See:
>
> http://www.aircraftextras.com/FPS-Plus.htm
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