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1. 04:54 AM - Iceland (Grant Corriveau)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: Skis 701 (roy vickski)
3. 08:14 AM - convert lycoming O-360 constant speed to fixed prop (Agstore)
4. 08:33 AM - Suprisingly good bug juice cleaner (Charles Heathco)
5. 09:32 AM - Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS (Stanley Challgren)
6. 11:12 AM - Re: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS (Carlos Sa)
7. 12:15 PM - Re: Iceland (Johann G.)
8. 12:23 PM - Re: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS (Leo Gates)
9. 12:31 PM - Original Stall Speed (Stanley Challgren)
10. 01:11 PM - 601 HDS Installation (Stanley Challgren)
11. 05:20 PM - Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt (Andrew Tripp)
12. 06:33 PM - Re: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS (ron dewees)
13. 08:53 PM - Builders (Mark Townsend)
14. 09:03 PM - Re: convert lycoming O-360 constant speed to fixed prop (John Maselli)
15. 09:18 PM - Re: Builders (Todd Osborne)
16. 11:26 PM - Re: Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> "He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
> Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
>
> Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
Must have been a case of "get home-itis" !!!
Personally I'd love to visit Iceland, but I expect this would be by
airliner, not Zociac!
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Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: roy vickski <rvickski@yahoo.com>
Jon, Rob,
Way,,,,Way Cool.
Put me on the list for drawings. (I'll send cash)
A friend has a Piet on skis, he has a blast with them.
I'll almost bet our friends down south (Zed, Gary,
Larry, and John) are now thinking twice about their
geographical choices.
As per the rules, do not archive.
Roy Szarafinski
701 plans
Getting there, its just a matter of time
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Subject: | convert lycoming O-360 constant speed to fixed prop |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Agstore" <jay@agstore.net>
Thanks for the suggestions on squeezing the prop governor into my 801.
However, due to the position of the main Z channel on the firewall (the
one that supports the front gear), there is no way I can find to make it
work. Here is a picture of the engine hung without the prop governor:
http://www.agstore.net/propgovprob.jpg
Therfore, I am looking at other options. My first instinct is to
eliminate the governor on the engine that I have and just put a fixed
pitch prop on the O-360A1A. Is there any reason that I cannot do this?
The A1A has a hollow crank.
Thanks,
Jay Herron
Ch801 90% done
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Subject: | Suprisingly good bug juice cleaner |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Heathco" <cheathco@comcast.net>
I dont think i posted this, I got the tip on another group chat, fellow acidently
stumbled on to it. Baby Wipes. He says will clean off the belly as well. I
got a little box and tried it on the dried bug juice, took it right off. charlie
heathco
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Subject: | Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
List:
I flew our 601 HDS yesterday with temporarily installed vortex
generators obtained from <landshorter@yahoo.com>. I recorded a CAS
stall speed of 48.5 mph.
I believe that upon the final and complete installation of the VG's our
aircraft will qualify for Sport Plane at its max gross weight.
Stan
601HDS/Jabiru 3300
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Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Stan, what was your original stall speed (w/out the vgs)?
Carlos
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--- Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
>
> List:
>
> I flew our 601 HDS yesterday with temporarily installed vortex
> generators obtained from <landshorter@yahoo.com>. I recorded a CAS
> stall speed of 48.5 mph.
>
> I believe that upon the final and complete installation of the VG's our
> aircraft will qualify for Sport Plane at its max gross weight.
>
> Stan
> 601HDS/Jabiru 3300
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Yes, I do understand the urge to get home quick when you have been flying
around the world and grounded and treated badly by the Russians. No pun
intended, but they do not seem to understand that some people like to have
fun in life.
I recommend the airliner way to visit. The other method is too risky because
of the cold ocean between us. Anyone on the list who will visit will get the
private welcome treatment, and a Zenith 701 flight weather permitting.
(after May-June)
Sorry for the off list subject.
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Best wishes,
Johann G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Corriveau" <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Iceland
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
>
> > "He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
> > Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
> >
> > Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
>
> Must have been a case of "get home-itis" !!!
>
> Personally I'd love to visit Iceland, but I expect this would be by
> airliner, not Zociac!
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
> do not archive
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
Stanley,
I think we would all like to know the before and after figures for cruise
and stall.
Leo Gates
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From: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
List:
I flew our 601 HDS yesterday with temporarily installed vortex
generators
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Subject: | Original Stall Speed |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
Carlos asked:
Stan, what was your original stall speed (w/out the vgs)?
The aircraft stalled at about 52 mph CAS under similar conditions.
This is consistent with the solo 48 mph and 54 mph dual advertised by
Zenith.
Stan
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Subject: | 601 HDS Installation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
Leo:
I did not do a precise cruise speed check yesterday but did go right up
to 140 IAS right after level off at 6500'. I did not do a CAS for the
WOT but if the IAS minus 7.5 mph figure at 60 mph holds the cruise
would be about 132. So, objectively I do not yet have an answer.
Subjectively, I believe there was very little impact but if there was
any, it may have been positive.
I will report more thoroughly as we continue the evaluation flights and
additional VG installation.
Stan
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Subject: | Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew Tripp <andy@pagehealer.com>
I hadn't heard of this - can anyone tell me what happened with the
attempt? and why did the next attempt in a different aircraft succeed?
I've wondered about doing the transatlantic flight in a 701 and would
like to know what the problem was.
Thank you,
Andy Tripp
NJ - USA
>
Time: 06:49:54 AM PST US
From: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 03/18/05
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
"He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
I would have liked to meet with Lenarcic on his round the world trip.
We had talked about meeting here when he would fly his Z 701 on his
first
attempt, but like you say, beauracracy ruined that dream.
Best regards,
Johann from Iceland.
Z701.
www.gi.is/fis
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Subject: | Re: Vortex Generators on Zodiac 601 HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Stan,
My 601 HDS taildragger stalls at less than 48 without VGs, I think
weight and drag are more of a factor than has been discussed.
Ron
N601TD
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Stanley Challgren wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren <challgren@mac.com>
>
>List:
>
>I flew our 601 HDS yesterday with temporarily installed vortex
>generators obtained from <landshorter@yahoo.com>. I recorded a CAS
>stall speed of 48.5 mph.
>
>I believe that upon the final and complete installation of the VG's our
>aircraft will qualify for Sport Plane at its max gross weight.
>
>Stan
>601HDS/Jabiru 3300
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Hi All I have a new builder who has not had a chance to join this list but I
am hoping to help him find someone close to his location. IS there any
Zenith Builders located anywheres near Waukesha, Wisconson? Any Zenith
builder will do just fine but a 701 builder would be golden.
Thanks for your help
Mark Townsend
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Subject: | convert lycoming O-360 constant speed to fixed prop |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: John Maselli <jfmasell@optonline.net>
This is your best bet. The performance with the fixed pitch is close to
the constant speed due to this aircrafts inherent drag.
John Maselli
A Computer Consulting
516-524-0420
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Agstore
Subject: Zenith-List: convert lycoming O-360 constant speed to fixed
prop
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Agstore" <jay@agstore.net>
Thanks for the suggestions on squeezing the prop governor into my 801.
However, due to the position of the main Z channel on the firewall (the
one that supports the front gear), there is no way I can find to make it
work. Here is a picture of the engine hung without the prop governor:
http://www.agstore.net/propgovprob.jpg
Therfore, I am looking at other options. My first instinct is to
eliminate the governor on the engine that I have and just put a fixed
pitch prop on the O-360A1A. Is there any reason that I cannot do this?
The A1A has a hollow crank.
Thanks,
Jay Herron
Ch801 90% done
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
I do! I am a 601XL builder that lives in Sussex, WI which borders
Waukesha. I am not that active right now for money reasons, but plan to
start building again this spring, next month or two. Have your friend
contact me at todd@toddtown.com. My project is also on my web site at
www.toddtown.com.
Todd
Mark Townsend wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Townsend" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
>
> Hi All I have a new builder who has not had a chance to join this list but I
> am hoping to help him find someone close to his location. IS there any
> Zenith Builders located anywheres near Waukesha, Wisconson? Any Zenith
> builder will do just fine but a 701 builder would be golden.
>
> Thanks for your help
> Mark Townsend
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Todd Osborne
Internet E-Mail: todd@toddtown.com
Web Site: www.toddtown.com
MSN (Windows) Messenger: todd@toddtown.com
AOL Instant Messenger: toddosborn@aol.com
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Subject: | Re: Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Hello Andy.
My understanding was that the Danish aviation autohorities did not permit
the crossing flight from Canada to Iceland, because of their search and
resque responsibilities over and around Greenland. Maybe it was the
question about the price of an insurance for the search and resque
service.
So Matevz had to leave the Z701 in Canada, where he tried to sell it
insted of transporting it all the way to Slovenia.
I do not know how that ended.
There must be some difference between the Zenith 701 and the motorglider
Matevz flew across the atlantic.
Hope this helped.
Johann G.
Iceland.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Andrew Tripp <andy@pagehealer.com>
>
> I hadn't heard of this - can anyone tell me what happened with the
> attempt? and why did the next attempt in a different aircraft succeed?
> I've wondered about doing the transatlantic flight in a 701 and would
> like to know what the problem was.
>
> Thank you,
> Andy Tripp
> NJ - USA
>
> >
> Time: 06:49:54 AM PST US
> From: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 19 Msgs - 03/18/05
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
>
> "He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
> Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
>
> Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
> I would have liked to meet with Lenarcic on his round the world trip.
> We had talked about meeting here when he would fly his Z 701 on his
> first
> attempt, but like you say, beauracracy ruined that dream.
>
> Best regards,
> Johann from Iceland.
> Z701.
> www.gi.is/fis
> do not archive
>
>
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