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1. 04:55 AM - Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt (Grant Corriveau)
2. 05:18 AM - Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt - my error! (Grant Corriveau)
3. 05:55 AM - Jabiru Engine won't start (charles.long@gm.com)
4. 06:10 AM - Reddish Stall Warning (Bill Bartlett)
5. 06:20 AM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (Larry McFarland)
6. 07:19 AM - Re: Skyshop no longer offers Zenith aircraft (Christopher Galante)
7. 08:03 AM - Re: Off-Topic: Competition for the XL? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
8. 08:33 AM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
9. 08:34 AM - Re: Off-Topic: Competition for the XL? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
10. 08:35 AM - Re: Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
11. 09:25 AM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (Chuck Deiterich)
12. 11:30 AM - Won't start.... (Zed Smith)
13. 01:06 PM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (Bob Miller)
14. 02:01 PM - Re: Iceland (Gary Gower)
15. 02:59 PM - Re: Iceland (Johann G.)
16. 03:17 PM - Re: Iceland (Richard Hutson)
17. 03:38 PM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (David Alberti)
18. 04:05 PM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
19. 04:10 PM - CH701 FOR SALE IN ARIZONA (James Sagerser)
20. 11:22 PM - Re: Jabiru Engine won't start (xl)
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| Subject: | Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt
Executive Summary ;-) version: Lenarcic's first attempt with the Zenair 701
ran into bureaucratic problems first in Russia, then in Canada. The Russian
delay put the project behind schedule. Then the Canadian delay put the rest
of the northern flying so late in the season as to make the chances of
favourable weather very iffy. And of course, onto all this add the expenses
and the fact that Matevz has a family back home in Slovenia who are doing
without him during this (overly-)long project. Consequently the first
attempt was aborted in Canda. His second attempt finally succeeded.
longer version:
His 701 was equipped with extra fuel tanks (of course)... in Russia, after
looking at other prospects like having to pay for a military Antonov 24 to
accompany him, he was forced to carry a navigator from Aeroflot. This made
his flight weights seriously 'heavy' even after he removed some of the extra
fuel capacity. The 701's short field performance paid off at one point when
he had to land in a clearing at one point when smoke from forest fires
became too dense to safely continue.
After crossing the Bering St. and 'skipping' out on the FAA inspectors who
were threatening their own delays, Lenarcic arrived in Canada. Here it
would seem, someone in Transport Canada, at a high bureaucratic level, took
a dislike to his project. He was finally allowed to continue as far as
Ottawa and the Slovenian embassy, and later on he was allowed to come a few
miles further to Ste. Lazare airstrip just outside of Montreal where he
could obtain some needed Rotax 912 maintenance.
That's where I met him. He showed me both the copy of his very early letter
from T.C. which had been written in response to his original research about
legalities for transiting Canada enroute to Greenland, Iceland, Scotland,
etc... This original letter said that his flight was not considered a
'Trans Atlantic Flight' due to this routing, so he did not need to comply
with the Cnd. Aviation Regulations that govern Trans Atlantic flights.
These regs require the aircraft to be equipped with specific life-saving
gear, as well as adequate fuel reserves etc... Lenarcic's operation met all
those restrictions.
The rules (never updated!) also required the aircraft to carry an NDB nav.
radio, (and maybe also a VOR - not sure), as well as an HF comm radio.
Lenarcic 'only' had dual GPS units VHF comms and a very sophisticated
satellite telephone that was certified to function even at high latitudes.
That is, he was meeting the intent of the regs. if not the letter.
The other factor involved pilot quals. The regs require the pilot to be IFR
rated. Mat was instrument flight trained, but did not have the licence
endorsement because the mission was a vfr-limited mission from beginning to
end.
Now, under the originall T.C. response, none of these regulations mattered
because the flight was not deemed a Trans Atlantic flight. However, after 2
years of preparations, Matevz received another communique just weeks before
departure, informing him that a 'new interpretation' had been received from
'the legal department', and NOW his flight was considered a 'crossing' and
he should comply with all these regulations.
Rather than cancel the operation, he and his team decided to launch on time
and hope for a 'diplomatic' solution enroute. As mentioned, this 'solution'
was not reached before time ran out and Lenarcic ended up taking the
airlines back home. After an attempt by a Zodiac builder in Illinois (Doug
Pahanke) to purchase the 'Blue Lightning', bureacracy (American this time)
foiled things yet again. Due to the airplane's unusual fuel configuration,
it became a nightmare of certification problems, and it became very unclear
as to how the aircraft would be ferried to the U.S. and then how if could be
certified to fly there. Eventually it was crated up here at CST3 (Ste.
Lazare) and shipped back to Slovenia for resale.
In the meantime, Matevz proceded to obtain his IFR rating, and wanting to
have he capability to overfly Canada, if need be, and just make generally
fewer stops, he had a new aircraft prepared. A Slovenian company,
Pipestral, helped provide a Sinus (Slovenian name for some sort of bird)
which was equipped to comply with the Canadian regs! He launched again!
His original plan had been to bypass Russia by flying through China, but the
SARs crisis made the Chinese authorities too 'busy' to want to be bothered
dealing with his requests for transit authority. As I understand, his
secondary routing was then via the various 'Stans' (Uzbeckistan,
Afghanistan?, etc..) through Mongolia, then into Russian airspace. Due to
poor communications betwee the Mongolians and Russians, he was intercepted
by a Mig fighter and forced to land. Again Russian bureacracy threatened
the success of the mission, but thankfully, friends he had made during the
previous attempt finally prevailed and he was allowed to continue!
This time, after crossing the Bering Strait and Alaska, Mat headed down the
west coast towards California (where I believe he has some relatives), then
he arrived at OSH for the convention. There he was a featured visitor,
hosted by the U.S. dealer for Pipestral. They took him directly to the
Transport Canada booth at the show, presented his documentation and so
Matevz was finally accorded a 'stamp of approval' for the Canadian leg of
his journey. "They approved it (because they had to), but they did not like
it."
Mat stopped in again at Ste. Lazare to say hello, but immediately pressed on
towards Iqaluit (Frobisher Bay) as the late summer weather was again
becoming a challenge. After waiting for some favourable winds, he
eventually finished up with some mega-long flight legs via Greenland, U.K.
and back to Slovenia!
Apparently Matevz will be preparing a book about the adventure. He's a
professial photographer as well as 'adventurer' - so I'm sure this will be
as impressive as his other works (see links below).
This website is still available with a lot of his 'as it happens' reports:
http://www.worldtranssiberia.com/index1.php
http://www.lenarcic.net/news.htm
his business website with links to both voyages (click on the English flag
for the english language versions)
hope this was of interest,
do not archive
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt - my error! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt
The clouds above me disappeared soon only to be substituted with the ones
above me. Under those conditions I flew all the way to Reykjavik where I
landed in the last daylight
======
In reading his website myself, I see that I misunderstood apparently. When
I talked to him he probably told me it was the east coast of Greenland that
he decided to overfly and went to Iceland in one leg instead of two...
Anyways, the accurate info is on his websites.
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Jabiru Engine won't start |
20, 2004) at 03/21/2005 08:53:25 AM
--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted on
two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very first few
times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm not getting
the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a flooded
condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped fuel out of
both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph out of each
side. Is there something about the bing altitude compensating carb that
could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any other thoughts?
Thanks
Chuck Long
N601LE
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| Subject: | Reddish Stall Warning |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" <bbartlett5@satx.rr.com>
I ordered a Reddish stall warning switch from Aircraft-Spruce. It came
without installation and wiring instructions. Does anyone know where I
can obtain this information?
Do Not Archive
Bill Bartlett, San Antonio, Texas
Ch601XL, N140BB, all electric
Aux. Fuel Tanks, Wing Lockers, Wheel Fairings, Dual Sticks & Blue
Mountain Lite - 80% Complete
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Chuck,
I was surprised the 3300 had Bings. The thing that comes to mind is the
float setting
for your main jet. If it's adjusted wrong, you might not get any fuel
through, conversely
if it's adjusted wrong the other way, it'll run fuel out the overflow.
These are not too hard to disassemble
but before you do that I'd suggest you contact Bing 1-800-309-2464.
You need to get the $8.00 "Bing Carburettors Aircraft Tuning and Parts
Manual" to get a better
feel for their operation.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS - Stratus w/Bings.
charles.long@gm.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
>
> Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted on
>two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very first few
>times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm not getting
>the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a flooded
>condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped fuel out of
>both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph out of each
>side. Is there something about the bing altitude compensating carb that
>could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any other thoughts?
>
>Thanks
>Chuck Long
>N601LE
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Skyshop no longer offers Zenith aircraft |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Christopher Galante <cgalante@yahoo.com>
Good morning all.
Does anybody know why this decision was made? I was half way thinking about going
down this road.
Thanks,
Chris
danny@skyshops.org wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: danny@skyshops.org
March 18, 2005 Statement
We would like to inform all of our valued customers and potential customers
that a decision has been made by Zenith Aircraft Co., Zenair Ltd. and AMD to
prohibit Czech Aircraft Works from supplying quick-built kits and finished
aircraft to the United States and Skyshop Inc. That means Skyshop no longer
offers builder assistance or quick built kits for Zenith products. (Contact
Zenith Aircraft Co. for any questions.)
We still offer accessories for Zenair aircraft builders (floats, upholstery
kit, firewall forward packages and more see our web site). Additionally we
are here to support all of our existing customers.
Besides the very popular Mermaid amphibian Skyshop, Czech Aircraft Works and
our design team have to offer new aircraft coming to the market very soon.
Thank you for all your support as we move forward.
SKYSHOP INC - Fastbuilds & Floats & Props
USA distributor for Czech Aircraft Works
e-mail zaneta@skyshops.org Phone # 772-223-8915 Fax # 772-382-0607
P.O. Box 1007, Palm City, FLORIDA 34991 USA www.skyshops.org
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| Subject: | Off-Topic: Competition for the XL? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Yeah, especially as the builder won't have any holes to drill!
Mind you it might finally force the ZAC and the like to invest in true
CNC tooling.
Could be cool times ahead for this market...:)
Frank
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Boultinghouse
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Off-Topic: Competition for the XL?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse"
--> <sonex260@austin.rr.com>
Actually, Vans has been working on the RV-11 motorglider for quite some
time, as a personal project. See:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/public/rv-11int.htm
As you can see, it is a single-place, Jabiru-2200 powered design.
This is NOT the LSA design hinted at by the EAA article. It will be
likely be something entirely different, and would logically be direct
competition for the Zodiac XL, Sonex, and others. If Van's history is
any indication of the performance and success of their new LSA design,
the competition should be sweating profusely right about now...
Regards,
Chris Boultinghouse
Austin, TX
Sonex N260SX (reserved)
http://sonex260.wheelsup.org
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> NYTerminat@aol.com
> Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 11:27 PM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Off-Topic: Competition for the XL?
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> Listers
>
> I heard tonight that the new clean sheet design is a motorglider by
Vans.
>
> Bob Spudis
> CH701
>
> do not archive
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Check this:
If Jabaru is using a Bing that is similiar to the Constant-Velocity Bing
used on BMW motorcycles, the throttle must be closed or close to closed and the
enrichining lever (choke) on full. If you open the throttle the 'choke'
WILL NOT WORK.
Make sure the 4 screws that hold the 'choke' lever onto the throttle body
are damn snug, as an air leak here will not allow the engine to start.
Good Luck
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl tail 100%
do not archive
In a message dated 3/21/2005 8:56:41 AM Eastern Standard Time,
charles.long@gm.com writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted on
two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very first few
times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm not getting
the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a flooded
condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped fuel out of
both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph out of each
side. Is there something about the bing altitude compensating carb that
could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any other thoughts?
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| Subject: | Off-Topic: Competition for the XL? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I won't....:)
Frank
Flying an HDS for 5 years now building an RV7A...What no holes to drill
this is too easy....:)
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Crvsecretary@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Off-Topic: Competition for the XL?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Hello Listers:
I could not resist thinking Vans has been feeling the competition and
had to enter the Light Sport market -- but not with a variation of
their current offerings. No, they say they want a new "Proof of
Concept" clean sheet design.
The following quote came off the EAA e-Hotline newsletter this
morning:
"A few specs noted include: Rotax 912S (80 or 100 hp); low-wing,
two-place side by side; initially an experimental amateur-built;
tricycle gear"
Wow - do they really need a Proof-of-Concept for a Zodiac XL ????
Boy, am I gonna give the EAA chapter something to talk about when I show
them the new RV-LSA as a Zodiac !!! Well, maybe not...THEY will still
have to bang rivets !!!! We gently PULL them !!
I have to stop - I'm having too much fun !!
Absolutely DO NOT ARCHIVE
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl tail 100% - waiting on the wings kit do not archive
PS - I just love agitating the local guys at the EAA meetings - it's
all in good fun. There are so many of them and so few of us! RV
owners: Please do not take any of this good-natured fun seriously !!!
direct advertising on the Matronics Forums.
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- my error!
| Subject: | Re: Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt |
- my error!
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
hello Grant.
Yes, I also saw his webside where he flew over Greenland and landed in
Iceland. The two are very ofter confused because of the names. Iceland is
green, but Greenland is white.
Sorry i missed his stopover. I was visiting Florida at the time.
Do not archive.
Regards,
Johann G.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
>> Matevz Lenarcic and CH701 round the world attempt
> The clouds above me disappeared soon only to be substituted with the ones
> above me. Under those conditions I flew all the way to Reykjavik where I
> landed in the last daylight
> ======
>
> In reading his website myself, I see that I misunderstood apparently.
> When
> I talked to him he probably told me it was the east coast of Greenland
> that
> he decided to overfly and went to Iceland in one leg instead of two...
> Anyways, the accurate info is on his websites.
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
Chuck,
This may sound dumb, but make sure the P leads on the mags are not grounded
through the mag switches.
Chuck D.
N701TX
Jab 2200
----- Original Message -----
From: <charles.long@gm.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru Engine won't start
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
>
> Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted
on
> two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very first few
> times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm not getting
> the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a flooded
> condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped fuel out of
> both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph out of each
> side. Is there something about the bing altitude compensating carb that
> could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any other thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> Chuck Long
> N601LE
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
As somebody has already mentioned, there is a "trick" to the choke/throttle mechanism
on the Bing.
"Choke" only functions when the throttle is OFF. Advancing the throttle even a
small amount defeats the choke.
I'm at office, not in hangar, but if you will look closely I think you can see
this.
See that your throttle cables do in fact completely release the throttle levers
on the carbs when you place your control in the idle position.
And, yes, a nice ground on the mag leads will hinder progress.
Voice of experience.....
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/90+%
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Chuck,
I have a Jabiru 2200, and the manual specifies that the PSI to the
carburetor should be below (I'm at the office, so this may only be accurate
within one PSI) about 3 PSI. With your combination of pumps, could you be
exceeding the 3300's capacity? (Or would this have resulted in the flooding
that did not occur?)
Bob
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Johann,
Just curious. What is the average temperature in the Summer in Iceland?
Saludos
Gary Gower
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"Johann G." <johann@gi.is> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
Yes, I do understand the urge to get home quick when you have been flying
around the world and grounded and treated badly by the Russians. No pun
intended, but they do not seem to understand that some people like to have
fun in life.
I recommend the airliner way to visit. The other method is too risky because
of the cold ocean between us. Anyone on the list who will visit will get the
private welcome treatment, and a Zenith 701 flight weather permitting.
(after May-June)
Sorry for the off list subject.
do not archive
Best wishes,
Johann G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Grant Corriveau"
Subject: Zenith-List: Iceland
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau
>
>
> > "He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
> > Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
> >
> > Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
>
> Must have been a case of "get home-itis" !!!
>
> Personally I'd love to visit Iceland, but I expect this would be by
> airliner, not Zociac!
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
> do not archive
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Hello Gary.
It is not much compared to what you are used to in Mexico.
The average temperature is 55-60 on Fahrenheit.
The average temp during the winter time is around 30 F.
So the fluctuation is not high. Our only problem is the rain and wind, due
to the common low pressure areas traveling up the Atlantic ocean from the
east coast of America.
Hope this gives you some idea of our climate up here. The main reason for
the mild temp is the Gulf stream which surrounds the island.
Best regards,
Johann G.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Iceland
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Johann,
>
> Just curious. What is the average temperature in the Summer in Iceland?
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower
> Do not archive.
>
> "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
>
> Yes, I do understand the urge to get home quick when you have been flying
> around the world and grounded and treated badly by the Russians. No pun
> intended, but they do not seem to understand that some people like to have
> fun in life.
> I recommend the airliner way to visit. The other method is too risky
because
> of the cold ocean between us. Anyone on the list who will visit will get
the
> private welcome treatment, and a Zenith 701 flight weather permitting.
> (after May-June)
> Sorry for the off list subject.
> do not archive
>
> Best wishes,
> Johann G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Corriveau"
> To:
> Subject: Zenith-List: Iceland
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau
> >
> >
> > > "He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
> > > Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
> > >
> > > Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
> >
> > Must have been a case of "get home-itis" !!!
> >
> > Personally I'd love to visit Iceland, but I expect this would be by
> > airliner, not Zociac!
> > --
> > Grant Corriveau
> > C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
> > do not archive
> >
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
Its around 60 to 75 degrees in the summer around Keflavik. Iceland is a
beautiful country, I spend 10 months there in the Air Force at US Naval Air
Station in Keflavik. While I was there the US Government was the largest
single employer in the country. Fishing is the number 1 industry, or it was
while I was there in 4/75 to 1/76. While there, I took several tours of the
country on weekends, there is a river in downtown Reykjavik that during the
Salmon season cost $5000.00 US for a 1/2 license to fish and there was a
limit. Two fisherman in the morning and two in the afternoon. The climate
is mild due to the Gulf Stream coming up from the Bahamas. Average winter
temperature in Keflavik was 32 degrees. Before a kid can graduate from High
School they must be able to read write and speak Icelandic, German, and
English.
---- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Iceland
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Johann,
>
> Just curious. What is the average temperature in the Summer in Iceland?
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower
> Do not archive.
>
> "Johann G." <johann@gi.is> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
>
> Yes, I do understand the urge to get home quick when you have been flying
> around the world and grounded and treated badly by the Russians. No pun
> intended, but they do not seem to understand that some people like to have
> fun in life.
> I recommend the airliner way to visit. The other method is too risky
> because
> of the cold ocean between us. Anyone on the list who will visit will get
> the
> private welcome treatment, and a Zenith 701 flight weather permitting.
> (after May-June)
> Sorry for the off list subject.
> do not archive
>
> Best wishes,
> Johann G.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Grant Corriveau"
> To:
> Subject: Zenith-List: Iceland
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau
>>
>>
>> > "He actually managed the leg from Greenland to
>> > Scotland, bypassing Iceland!"
>> >
>> > Now, that's where he made a big mistake. :-)
>>
>> Must have been a case of "get home-itis" !!!
>>
>> Personally I'd love to visit Iceland, but I expect this would be by
>> airliner, not Zociac!
>> --
>> Grant Corriveau
>> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>> do not archive
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
The choke/strangler circuit. If the throttle is open too far the circuit
will not function because it will not see enough vacuum across the port to
draw fuel. When you try next time make sure the throttle plate is closed
and the choke circuit is fully open.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
charles.long@gm.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru Engine won't start
--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted on
two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very first few
times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm not getting
the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a flooded
condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped fuel out of
both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph out of each
side. Is there something about the bing altitude compensating carb that
could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any other thoughts?
Thanks
Chuck Long
N601LE
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| Subject: | Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Don't know what the Jab uses for ignition but I have seen many engines
refuse to start then the builder realises he was firing on the exhaust
stroke (distributor in back wards) or the high tension leads were
connected to the wrong plugs etc. Like really brain dead and obvious
mistakes
I don't know if you getting any firing at all but you could try (and
pleease be careful) squirting half a tablespoon full of fuel directly
down the intake tubes (if you have a primer this is what this does).
Then ctrank the motor.
When (IF) the motor fires it will draw a lot of fuel and air through the
carbs.
If it doesn't fire or spits back/doesn't run at all then I would be
looking at ignition (like is it sparking at all?) or is the timing
completely out, firing on the wrong stroke etc.
Make sure your ignition has power.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Alberti
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Jabiru Engine won't start
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti"
--> <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
The choke/strangler circuit. If the throttle is open too far the
circuit will not function because it will not see enough vacuum across
the port to draw fuel. When you try next time make sure the throttle
plate is closed and the choke circuit is fully open.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
charles.long@gm.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru Engine won't start
--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted
on two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very
first few times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm
not getting the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a
flooded condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped
fuel out of both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph
out of each side. Is there something about the bing altitude
compensating carb that could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any
other thoughts?
Thanks
Chuck Long
N601LE
=
=
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| Subject: | CH701 FOR SALE IN ARIZONA |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: James Sagerser <alaskajim@cox.net>
It's time to sell my completed and flying CH701 to complete my current
experimental project. This 701 was completed in January 2002 and has a
total time of 90 hours airframe and engine. The engine is a Jabiru 2200
(80hp), serial #22A538 (1800TBO). The aircraft has electric trim, bubble
doors, cabin heat, dash mounted intercom, Com 760 TSO VHF transceiver, Narco
transponder, 20 gallons fuel, wood propeller. Weighs less than 500lbs.
Beautiful flying aircraft. It's located in Arizona. Price is $29,500 or
$27,500 without radios. Call Jim at 480-766-0003 or E-mail to
alaskajim@cox.net
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru Engine won't start |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: xl <xl@prosody.org>
The first time I started my 3300 I had to play with the throttle.
The engine would start, race and quitwhen I pulled the throttle back.
The Jabiru docs say that the idle needs adjusted. The idle is set for
bench testing before the engine is shipped. I set the idle speed higher
and got the engine running. It took several tries.
If your engine is new - out of the box - you shouldn't have to fiddle
with anything else. Although, I do agree with the observations that
the throttle needs to be closed for the choke to work.
Joe E
CH601XL Jabiru 3300
N633Z @ BFI
177 hours
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 charles.long@gm.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
>
> Question for those of you using the Jabiru 3300. I have attempted on
> two occasions to start my engine but was unsuccessful. The very first few
> times it would immediately fire but then die. I suspect I'm not getting
> the fuel to the cylinders. I have no gas smell typical of a flooded
> condition. Before the final fuel line installation, I pumped fuel out of
> both tanks using the electric pumps and was getting 20 gph out of each
> side. Is there something about the bing altitude compensating carb that
> could contribute to some sort of air lock? Any other thoughts?
>
> Thanks
> Chuck Long
> N601LE
>
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