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1. 05:49 AM - Two sources for Corvair Engines (Clyde Barcus)
2. 06:50 AM - Sun-N-Fun BBQ (Cdngoose)
3. 08:32 AM - harbour freight HVLP paint sprayers (Bob Miller)
4. 08:32 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun BBQ (Paul Moore)
5. 10:01 AM - Re: harbour freight HVLP paint sprayers (Tony & Peggy Pierce)
6. 10:13 AM - Re: GEO Engine (Dave & Darlene)
7. 10:48 AM - Re: Re: Sun-N-Fun BBQ (Cdngoose)
8. 10:57 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun BBQ (Rick)
9. 11:29 AM - Re: Sun-N-Fun BBQ (Rick)
10. 11:57 AM - Re: GEO Engine (Winston Ellis)
11. 12:49 PM - Re: Two sources for Corvair Engines (Capetonian)
12. 01:43 PM - Re: GEO Engine (Larry McFarland)
13. 04:08 PM - Re: GEO Engine (power needed to keep it flying) (Gary Gower)
14. 04:50 PM - Re: GEO Engine (Chris Boultinghouse)
15. 05:43 PM - Re: GEO Engine (Dave & Darlene)
16. 05:43 PM - Re: GEO Engine (Dave & Darlene)
17. 06:01 PM - Re: GEO Engine (Cdngoose)
18. 07:08 PM - Re: Two sources for Corvair Engines (Clyde Barcus)
19. 07:44 PM - Re: 601 HD Speeds (Bruce Bockius)
20. 08:04 PM - OT-Sun-N-Fun again (Cdngoose)
21. 08:15 PM - Nose gear questions for 601XL (Mark Stauffer)
22. 10:43 PM - Re: Nose gear questions for 601XL (royt.or@netzero.com)
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| Subject: | Two sources for Corvair Engines |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net>
For those that are interested in using the Corvair Engine in Zenith XL models,
Albert and Ronald have several complete engines for sale, prices (Currently) range
between $200 and $300. I bought mine from Albert and he has about 30 of the
110 Hp engines along with quite a few cylinder heads and crankshafts, Ronald
didn't say how many he has but both of them are ready to sell off their collections.
If you are interested in using the Corvair engine in your XL make sure
you get the right model. I recently meet them while searching for a used engine
to use in my project, their names and phone numbers are:
Albert Ramsey
Cookeville, TN
Phone: 931-526-5120
Cell: 931-261-5813
Ronald Lynch
Rock Falls, IL
Phone: 815-625-5025
Cell: 815-718-2820
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Hello Listers
I have spent most of the evening making all the name tags for attendees
of this years Sun-N-Fun event which you can pick up from the Zenith
booth any day of the event. All the tags have the builders name on them
as well as the plane there building or flying plus a picture of a 601 or
a 701. I plan to have all name tags attached to a string for wearing
around the neck. In this way other builders throughout the week can
always spot a Zenith builder and Zenith Booth attendants will be far
better able to handle your personal questions without long introductions
every time they meet a builder. I have made all the name tags so far
from the Sun-N-Fun BBQ attendants form and I would like to ask all
others that are going to Sun-N-Fun wither or not you will be able to
attend the BBQ please fill out the form so that I can make up your name
tag before the show. You may also need to have the name tag to get your
Burger or dog, depending on traffic to the event. I think with over a
hundred people registered for the BBQ a few of those RV types may try to
sneak in ( after spending that much on an engine they may need all the
free burgers they can get). This event is for
Builders/owners/wannabee's. So if you haven't filled out the SUN-N-FUN
BBQ FORM at www.ch601.org or www.ch701.com why not? IT 's main purpose
is to help each of us Discover and meet with our extended family of like
minded Zenith owners !
Fill out the form please.
http://www.ch601.org/BBQ/bbq.htm
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | harbour freight HVLP paint sprayers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Hi listers,
People have posted about their satisfaction with the Harbour Freight HVLP
sprayers.
Harbour Freight lists about eight different models, varying in price from
$39 to $59. One of the $59 models has it's own electric compressor.
If anyone has had a good experience with one of these sprayers, could you
let me know which specific model it is?
my-god-i'd-be-lost-without-this-list,
bob
N722Z 95% complete, 50% (i wish!) to go.
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| Subject: | RE: Sun-N-Fun BBQ |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Mark,
I just have to say I think what you, David, Jon, and everyone else involved
(let's not forget our better halves as well!) are doing with the BBQ is
tremendous. I would really love to attend and meet everyone, get tons of
questions answered in a lot less time than through the list, and gel
friendships that have been started here but unfortunately my trip there last
year will have to carry me through for at least one more. I will be there in
spirit.
It would be cool if this could become a tradition at other appropriate
gatherings as well. Although there are few flying events in my area, and
even fewer that attract Zenith owners and builders, I am available to help
organize similar get-togethers for our fraternity at Copper State or other
fly-ins within travel distance from southwestern New Mexico.
Paul Moore
Silver City, NM
XL, O-200
Just this week received registration as N1054 - thanks for the great
instructional video Jon! Made it smooth as glass!
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| Subject: | Re: harbour freight HVLP paint sprayers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tony & Peggy Pierce" <piercetonypeggy@mail.usa.com>
Although it's not from Harbour Freight, we have had good luck spraying Stits
Epoxy Primer (green) EP-420/EP430 with the Campbell Hausfeld Detail
Pneumatic Spray Gun from Home Depot ($35)
Tony Pierce
CH701
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Miller" <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: harbour freight HVLP paint sprayers
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller"
> <drmiller@cvillepsychology.net>
>
> Hi listers,
>
> People have posted about their satisfaction with the Harbour Freight HVLP
> sprayers.
> Harbour Freight lists about eight different models, varying in price from
> $39 to $59. One of the $59 models has it's own electric compressor.
> If anyone has had a good experience with one of these sprayers, could you
> let me know which specific model it is?
>
> my-god-i'd-be-lost-without-this-list,
> bob
> N722Z 95% complete, 50% (i wish!) to go.
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Hi List
I'm kind of mixed up here. On Raven's site www.raven-rotor.com/ they show
the 1300SVS, 115 HP that they say will replace the 912. They also say this
motor can be used in the RV series and the 601 (maybe this is just a sales
pitch). Persons on the list are saying it's too high RPM for the 601 and yet
they also talk about persons using this motor in the 701 and similar planes.
I don't want to start a big discussion here about who is right or wrong but
just need your thoughts about this all. Am I wrong in thinking the 115HP is
produced at a high RPM that's not suitable for the 601. The redrive that's
used will turn at the proper RPM won't it, but will this then have the
engine screaming to meet that 115HP. I'm only going from experience in
motorcycles and small engines that will produce high horsepower but at high
RPM were as a lower RPM high torque engine is much better for long duration
under load. So I'm wondering who is right here and am I better to go for the
Corvair as I originally was going to. I guess why I'm thinking about this
combo is because of fuel injection versus carb, also in the Corvair I'm
dealing with an old engine although WW has proven it's power and
reliability. I also live in Canada where the winters can be cold so carb
ice is an issue. I have access to either engine at good prices as a buddy of
mine has a wrecking yard so the initial engine cost is minimal. Also I've
rebuilt engines in the past when I used to race cars, mostly dirt track and
1/4 mile stuff so the rebuild part is not an issue. I'm no expert when it
comes to the proper engine/plane combo but learning. Is Raven selling this
setup with no regards of how long it will last. You experts out there can
give me your thoughts.
Dave Nimigon
Alberta
601XL
99% to go
tail parts bent and ready
www.borrowmyhusband.com/Nimigon_601XL
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: GEO Engine
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Dear Friends,
>
> I have one comment,
>
> I think that the page below is a very good FIRST HAND reference about the
> experiments with this engine.
>
> This person (Mr. Jim Alexandre) is a "hands on" person that makes his
> own parts.
> He does not sell parts, make plans or sell reductions, in fact when I got
> in touch with him, he just told me that all was in his web page. He does
> not do this for a living.
>
> But if you study his page closely there is LOTS of real info about this
> engine conversion.
>
> He in fact designed and built also his airplanes! they are kind of
> Kitfox - Avid look alike.
> No plans either.
>
> Enjoy and good luck.
>
> http://www.nessaaircraft.net/
>
> I have no relation with him, just like his work and admire his reaserch
> and "do it yourself" way of working.
>
> My idea is (was) to convert a 1,800 VW water cooled in line engine, very
> popular and manufactured here in Mexico, but I think is about 120 -
> 150(?) hp. (dont know yet).
> So I intended to get advise from Mr. Alexandre, mainly about the size
> (wide) of the belt to use, given this more powerfull engine...
>
> Saludos
> Gary Gower.
>
> Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
>
> Dave,
> I believe these engines acquire their 100 H.P. at a much higher rpm than
> would satisfy your XL.
> The Subaru, the Corvair, the 0-200, the 912 and the Jabaru 3300 are
> probably better suited to your
> needs because they deliver better power bands and propeller options.
> The least costly purchases are
> the Subaru and Corvair, and the least costly operation will be the
> Subaru, with the Corvair being
> a little faster. With the Geo or Suzuki, you'd be running wide open too
> much of the time, and
> you'd not see a long lived engine doing that.
> Best regards,
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS - Stratus Subaru
>
> Dave & Darlene wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
>>
>>Hi List
>>I'm a while from needing this but I'm looking at different options for an
>>engine for my XL. One of the members of our local EAA has suggested the
>>1.6 liter Geo Tracker, Suzuki auto engines. and the Raven redrive. I've
>>looked at there site and yes they will produce 100 HP. The weight is in
>>the range I need. Does anyone have any input on this or is there a better
>>site I can get to. I'm just looking at options that are affordable.
>>
>>Dave
>>Alberta
>>601XL
>>99% to go
>>www.borrowmyhusband.com/Nimigon_601XL
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Sun-N-Fun BBQ |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Thanks Paul
Every year we have the builders dinner at Oshkosh, the open house at
Mexico in the fall and the open house in Midland in June. All these
spots are potential gathering points. But we really didn't have anything
in the spring after a long or an all to short building season, we wanted
to create a gathering of people that we talk to all winter, just to say
hi or in Larry's and Scotts case for me shake there hands for all there
assistance over the season. Sun-N-Fun seemed like the best spot in which
to do this and the BBQ was a natural idea. Hopefully we will be able to
make it an annual event for all of us, but if not then lets do our best
to make this years one for the aircraft Magazines !!!! I can see the
headlines now Zenith Builders Rule or Zenith builders friendliest Guys
in the Skys!
For those of you who are unable to make it this year and have sent
letters of appreciation, I would also like to Thank all of you, your
kind words are what keep us going. When I get back from Sun-N-Fun I will
post all the pictures and stories I can so you folks will feel like you
were there.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Moore
Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Sun-N-Fun BBQ
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Mark,
I just have to say I think what you, David, Jon, and everyone else
involved
(let's not forget our better halves as well!) are doing with the BBQ is
tremendous. I would really love to attend and meet everyone, get tons of
questions answered in a lot less time than through the list, and gel
friendships that have been started here but unfortunately my trip there
last
year will have to carry me through for at least one more. I will be
there in
spirit.
It would be cool if this could become a tradition at other appropriate
gatherings as well. Although there are few flying events in my area, and
even fewer that attract Zenith owners and builders, I am available to
help
organize similar get-togethers for our fraternity at Copper State or
other
fly-ins within travel distance from southwestern New Mexico.
Paul Moore
Silver City, NM
XL, O-200
Just this week received registration as N1054 - thanks for the great
instructional video Jon! Made it smooth as glass!
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun BBQ |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Mark,
Probably need a name tag for the BBQ support crew: Jerry Hammes and Ron Prario
Low & Slow,
Rick
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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| Subject: | Re: Sun-N-Fun BBQ |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Sorry Listers....that one hooked left!
Rick <n701rr@yahoo.com> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick
Mark,
Probably need a name tag for the BBQ support crew: Jerry Hammes and Ron Prario
Low & Slow,
Rick
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Winston Ellis <w1mdi@cox-internet.com>
The 115HP that Raven quotes is what they are hoping to get out of the
yet to be finished turbo-ed version of the 1.3L. The non turbo version
might see 90HP. The red line that Raven suggests for these 1.3L engines
is 5500RPM at the top of the power curve, but less than the Rotax. The
Suzuki factory red line is 6500. What the Suzuki has going for it is
being one of the lightest auto-conversion engines in the 80 to 100HP
range and the much better $/HP ratio when compared to a Rotax.
Winston Ellis
CH 701/Suzuki
Ketchum, Idaho
Dave & Darlene wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
>
>Hi List
>I'm kind of mixed up here. On Raven's site www.raven-rotor.com/ they show
>the 1300SVS, 115 HP that
>
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| Subject: | Re: Two sources for Corvair Engines |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Capetonian <capetonian@gmail.com>
> Ronald didn't say how many he has but both of them are ready to sell off their
collections. If you are interested in using the Corvair engine in your XL make
sure you get the right model.
Do you happen to have an email address?
Andrew.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Dave,
When you look at the effort that's being put to sell the 1300 Suzuki
without declaring specific rpms
that the Horsepower is derived of, you have to say something is being
over-sold. Especially in the
context of replacing a 912 or using the engine on a 601. The carburated
90 HP 1300 is probably a good
piece for a 701 as it has few prospects for exceeding 100 mph in level
flight. Using it in context with the RV
series aircraft is inappropriate, even with turbo to raise the ante.
Your Corvair is a much better choice for the
601 and possibly, even the RV series. Take a redrive of 2.5 to 1 at
6000 and you get 2400 rpm at the prop.
2.2 to 1 gets you 2700 rpm where I suspect the Suzuki is just about
maxed out. I'm not expert nor an engine
guy, but the numbers just don't add up. Back off the rpms to a
comfortable cruise of less than 5000 rpm and you
have to guess that less than 75 hp is available.
Let the Buyer be aware.
Larry McFarland
Dave & Darlene wrote:
>Hi List
>I'm kind of mixed up here. On Raven's site www.raven-rotor.com/ they show
>the 1300SVS, 115 HP that they say will replace the 912. They also say this
>motor can be used in the RV series and the 601 (maybe this is just a sales
>pitch). You experts out there can
>give me your thoughts.
>
>Dave Nimigon
>Alberta
>601XL
>99% to go
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GEO Engine (power needed to keep it flying) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Larry,
Just one point of view. You dont need all the HP of the engine all the time...
Maybe only in Choppers :-)
The airplanes need certain amount of max. power to take off and climb. (5 to
10 minutes)
then when they are trimed for cruise or "normal" climb, they need less power.
There used to be a book about aircraft design by some real expert maned Crawford
that got simple calculus and nomograms to get this numbers. was a blue book
with soft cover.
I bought it about 15 years ago or more, used to be in Kitplanes and Sport Aviation
classifieds.
From some planes that I calculated was about 30% (or less?) of the take off power
that was needed to keep them flying. depends in drag, speed, winga erea,
etc. I will look for that book. Is GREAT! Has to be in one of my boxes.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
Dave,
When you look at the effort that's being put to sell the 1300 Suzuki
without declaring specific rpms
that the Horsepower is derived of, you have to say something is being
over-sold. Especially in the
context of replacing a 912 or using the engine on a 601. The carburated
90 HP 1300 is probably a good
piece for a 701 as it has few prospects for exceeding 100 mph in level
flight. Using it in context with the RV
series aircraft is inappropriate, even with turbo to raise the ante.
Your Corvair is a much better choice for the
601 and possibly, even the RV series. Take a redrive of 2.5 to 1 at
6000 and you get 2400 rpm at the prop.
2.2 to 1 gets you 2700 rpm where I suspect the Suzuki is just about
maxed out. I'm not expert nor an engine
guy, but the numbers just don't add up. Back off the rpms to a
comfortable cruise of less than 5000 rpm and you
have to guess that less than 75 hp is available.
Let the Buyer be aware.
Larry McFarland
Dave & Darlene wrote:
>Hi List
>I'm kind of mixed up here. On Raven's site www.raven-rotor.com/ they show
>the 1300SVS, 115 HP that they say will replace the 912. They also say this
>motor can be used in the RV series and the 601 (maybe this is just a sales
>pitch). You experts out there can
>give me your thoughts.
>
>Dave Nimigon
>Alberta
>601XL
>99% to go
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse" <sonex260@austin.rr.com>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
> <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
<<On Raven's site www.raven-rotor.com/ they showthe 1300SVS, 115 HP that
they say will replace the 912. They also say this motor can be used in the
RV series...>><snip>
I don't see that they are proposing the Geo can be used in the RV series,
which typically needs 150+ horsepower... that would be a TOTALLY outrageous
claim! I do see where they say it can be used in the RANS S-6. Did you
perhaps confuse that with Vans?
-Chris
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
Yes, I did mis-read it. Sorry
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Boultinghouse" <sonex260@austin.rr.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: GEO Engine
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chris Boultinghouse"
> <sonex260@austin.rr.com>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
>> <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
>
> <<On Raven's site www.raven-rotor.com/ they showthe 1300SVS, 115 HP that
> they say will replace the 912. They also say this motor can be used in the
> RV series...>><snip>
>
> I don't see that they are proposing the Geo can be used in the RV series,
> which typically needs 150+ horsepower... that would be a TOTALLY
> outrageous
> claim! I do see where they say it can be used in the RANS S-6. Did you
> perhaps confuse that with Vans?
>
> -Chris
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
> Thank you all on the list for your input. I think I'll stick with my
> original idea of the Corvair. Just thew that one out for comment. I don't
> know why I second guess myself.
Dave
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Snip > I don't know why I second guess myself.<
Because you're a scratch builder, and your looking at all avenues! A
normal process for all scratch builders. Don't worry it only gets worse!
Which would explain why I have 5 engines in my garage and I'm still
looking at picking up a Corvair to play with, and before anyone says
anything I'm putting a Subaru in my 601XL I just keep flip flopping on
which one. Presently I'm building up two of them and the lightest power
plant will win.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave &
Darlene
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: GEO Engine
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
<dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
> Thank you all on the list for your input. I think I'll stick with my
> original idea of the Corvair. Just thew that one out for comment. I
don't
> know why I second guess myself.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Two sources for Corvair Engines |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net>
Sorry Andrew, I neglected to get his email address.
Regards:
Clyde
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From: "Capetonian" <capetonian@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Two sources for Corvair Engines
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Capetonian <capetonian@gmail.com>
>
>> Ronald didn't say how many he has but both of them are ready to sell off
>> their collections. If you are interested in using the Corvair engine in
>> your XL make sure you get the right model.
>
> Do you happen to have an email address?
>
> Andrew.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Bockius" <bruce@whiteantelopesoftware.com>
http://home.earthlink.net/~fellrider/perform.htm
-Bruce/601HD/TDO/447 hrs
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Bruce Bockius
Black Forest, CO, USA
bruce@whiteantelopesoftware
http://www.WhiteAntelopeSoftware.com/zodiac
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> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of john H
> Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 7:31 AM
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: [aviation] Zenith-List: 601 HD Speeds
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" <professor71@hotmail.com>
>
> It is nice to see some numbers and flying characteristics for
> the HDS. How
> about some for the HD model?
>
> John 601HD waiting and waiting for inspection
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| Subject: | OT-Sun-N-Fun again |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
TO Mark Stauffer and all others attending Sun-N-Fun but unable to attend
the BBQ your more then welcome to drop by the campsite any night for a
visit. Just wear your name tag during the day and we'll even try to say
hi on the flight line. Also is there anyone going to the campground
early? WE won't be arriving till late Saturday April 9th.
Thanks
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Nose gear questions for 601XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer@cablespeed.com>
Fellow builders,
I fabricated the lower bearing support and attached it along with the lower
bearing to the fuselage. I also installed the nose gear.
1. You can't put the aft bolt through the nose gear bottom bearing because
6B8-7 Center Firewall Stiffener is in the way. How did you get around this?
Did you a) Drill holes on each side of the stiffener and pass the bolt
through the stiffener and the bearing? or b) trim the sides of the stiffener
up from the bottom to clear the bolt? Option A. seems a little tricky but
seems to be the best answer. Any thoughts or suggestions?
2. The nose gear is very stiff. I can move it up and down only if I twist it
at the same time. Have others experienced this? What did you do (if
anything) to remedy it?
3. I haven't put the stop plate on yet (6G2-3) but I can already see that
with it in place the steering rod attachments will not be sitting down in
the groove of the bottom bearing. Right now the top of the nose gear is
below the top of 6B7-1 (Firewall Top Stiffener - Front). Has anyone else run
into this? My issue is that with the nose gear down at the stop, the
steering rod bolts will not be sitting down in the groove of the lower
bearing. I suppose I could shim the bearing up from the lower support.
Thoughts?
As usual thanks for all of your help and suggestions.
Mark
Odenton, MD
601XL working on fuselage
Looking forward to meeting many of you at SnF.
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| Subject: | Re: Nose gear questions for 601XL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "royt.or@netzero.com" <royt.or@netzero.com>
Mark,
Nick recently referred me to www.zenithair.com\stolch801\data\gear-nose-s1.pdf which addresses your first question. There has been lots of discussion in the past about stiff nose gear. Suggest that you search the archives. Also, be sure to grease both the top and bottom bearing. I don't have any information about your third question.
Regards,
Roy
N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped,
318.1hrs, 405 landings - expect to start adding hours and landings again in a few
weeks.
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