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1. 05:58 AM - Re: electronic circuit breaker panel (Don Mountain)
2. 06:04 AM - Re: 601 HD with O200 or O235 (Paul Moore)
3. 05:00 PM - 601 XL kit for sale (Joemotis@aol.com)
4. 05:15 PM - Paint Preparation (Bill Bartlett)
5. 05:38 PM - Good paint endorsement (Trevor Page)
6. 05:41 PM - Re: Paint Preparation (Larry McFarland)
7. 05:48 PM - Re: Paint Preparation (Trevor Page)
8. 07:20 PM - Ordering 601XL Kit (Dave VanLanen)
9. 07:34 PM - Re: Ordering 601XL Kit (Cdngoose)
10. 08:05 PM - Re: Ordering 601XL Kit (Rico Voss)
11. 09:33 PM - Re: Re: electronic circuit breaker panel (Sigmo@aol.com)
12. 09:52 PM - Re: Landing Light Lens (N5SL)
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| Subject: | Re: electronic circuit breaker panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Thanks Mike. I like the "modern" approach of the
EXP-2 Bus where in the event of an electrical failure
I don't have to fool with breakers or fuses. I can
concentrate my effort on finding the problem itself.
And having the "breaker" automatically reset itself.
The light tells me there is a failure, I can look at
the label, and go right to the problem equipment.
Rather than having a fuse blow or circuit breaker pop
while it is "hidden" behind a panel somewhere, and
then searching for the problem when I need what it was
powering during a critical time. And the compact
nature of a panel mounted unit seem real convenient.
I have a question though. Did you have one custom
built for your plane? I noticed they have standard
ones with capacities of 3 amps as the lowest breaker
size. And the 2 trim units call for 1 amp ratings.
Don
601 XL
Tail done, Wings in construction
> I went with the EXP-2 Bus. It's not exactly cheap
> but it sure saves the space
> and has some great capabilities and options.
> The web site is:
>
> http://www.anywheremap.com/detail.aspx?ID=10
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| Subject: | 601 HD with O200 or O235 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Chris,
I don't have my XL flying yet so can't speak from experience, but here's
what I've seen so far on the list and elsewhere. Several others who hang
out here occasionally have actual experience and hopefully will chime in.
I'm installing an O200 and expect it to weigh out very close to your EA81 at
somewhere between 220 and 240#. It will likely put out just a few more
horses - hopefully a full 100hp so climb performance will be a bit better
but the truck effect will be the same. I would expect the O235 will be at
least 20 to 40 # heavier than the O200, but it also puts out 115hp. The
horsepower should help on the speed, but gains will probably be pretty
modest considering the extra weight and extra fuel requirements.
Of course, these are just impressions - as said many times here before, your
mileage may vary.
Paul Moore
XL O200
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From: chrisoz@bmail.com.au
Subject: 601 HD with O200 or O235
What is your experience with the O's?
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| Subject: | 601 XL kit for sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com
I would also like to include the worktable with the rest of the kit (if
wanted)
It has 6 screw jacks on it to lower or raise it off the wheels. Very easy to
move around and releveling takes about 3 minutes. Also, it has a full sized
shelf underneath that holds a lot.
All of the prints and photo guides from the disc are in plastic sleeved
folders and printed in color.
email me off list for more info or pictures.
Thanks
Joe
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| Subject: | Paint Preparation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" <bbartlett5@satx.rr.com>
Has anyone any experience with sanding the 6061 aluminum to eliminate
corrosion? My kit is two years old and has a thin layer of corrosion.
Bill,
N140BB, 601XL, Dual Sticks, Tri Gear, Wheel Fairings, Wing Lockers, Aux
Tanks, All Electric.
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| Subject: | Good paint endorsement |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
After doing a lot of research into paint for my 601 during the late
stages of construction a friend of mine during a recent conversation
mentioned Endura brand paint (www.endura.ca)
At the time I was not going to try the polyurethane route because of
the toxicity. I was going to do enamel. My friend however showed me his
clever setup for a forced-air breathing system so I became less afraid
of urethane. I took the plunge last week and bought all the paint I
needed. Endura is a very easy to handle 2-part urethane with a 1:1 mix
ratio.
Shoots very easily with a decent HVLP gun. So far the breathing system
was been working fantastic in combination with my respirator. The paint
results are great for the price. I've spent about $550 Canadian on all
the paint and thinners.
I'll have some pictures on my site in the next couple of days. The
wings, cowlings, spinner and tail-plane are finished except for the
second color leading edges. The fuselage will the prepped and primed on
Friday.
Trevor Page
601HD complete. 50% painted
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Preparation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Bill,
If the gray you rub off when you clean the aluminum is your corrosion,
it's nothing you can't get off when you etch or scrub
prior to paint. If you've got white patches, you'd probably best find
out what's contributing to your corrosion.
There are some etch fluids that say they'll get rid of those patches,
but I've not used them yet. My white
spots are from a few errant birds in the hangar. If you live near the
coast, you'd best begin coating everything
inside and out before you get too far down the road with paint.
Don't sand your aluminum to get rid of corrosion unless it's really bad
and flakey. Can't imagine that with a
6061 aluminum. Scotchbrite pads (the green ones) are generally better
for isolated areas if not too large, but the
pads will leave fibers hung on your rivet heads so be careful.
Good luck,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS @ www.macsmachine.com
Bill Bartlett wrote:
>Has anyone any experience with sanding the 6061 aluminum to eliminate
>corrosion? My kit is two years old and has a thin layer of corrosion.
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Paint Preparation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Bill, my plane is older and had quite a bit of corrosion. My technique
to clean and prep for painting was:
1. Clean entire surface with lacquer thinner to remove as much oil and
crap as possible
2. Rub down the entire surface with maroon scotch-brite pads. You hands
WILL get black
3. Wash 3-4 times with Dawn (don't use anything else) detergent and
rinse with clean water until water sheets off and does not bead up
4. Brush on alumiprep on the entire surface. Leave on for 3-4 minutes
(surface will fizz up like hydrogen peroxide on a bad cut)
5. Wash off acid etch with clean water and scrub-down any pesky parts
will beading water with the scotch-brite
6. Brush on alodine solution. Leave on for 4 minutes and wash off with
clean water.
7. DO NOT touch surface with bare hands anymore. Wear gloves and prime
ASAP
It's a lot of work but I'll tell you, after I primed it I could NOT
scratch off the primer for the life of me. Paint sticks like it's
supposed to. Now with my topcoat (3 coats) applied and flowed nice like
urethanes do, my finish looks really good. I plan on wet sanding with
1500 grit and a finish buffing (if required).
Trevor Page
601HD complete. Now painting
On Apr 6, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Bill Bartlett wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett"
> <bbartlett5@satx.rr.com>
>
> Has anyone any experience with sanding the 6061 aluminum to eliminate
> corrosion? My kit is two years old and has a thin layer of corrosion.
>
> Bill,
> N140BB, 601XL, Dual Sticks, Tri Gear, Wheel Fairings, Wing Lockers, Aux
> Tanks, All Electric.
>
>
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| Subject: | Ordering 601XL Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
I am considering ordering my airframe kit now, if ZAC could have it ready
prior to my builder's class in August, that way I could avoid shipping and
save a trip by bringing it back with me. Good or bad idea? More
importantly, will the kit fit in my van, or would I need a trailer? I have
a full-sized G20 series Chevy window van, and when I remove the rear two
seats, I have an area that is 4'4" wide (between wheel wells) X 4' high X
10'4" deep.
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
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| Subject: | Ordering 601XL Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Smart move Dave, and you will be able to take it home in the van. You
just won't get the box for a worktable. Then again you will have saved
enough money to make a far better one.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
VanLanen
Subject: Zenith-List: Ordering 601XL Kit
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
<davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
I am considering ordering my airframe kit now, if ZAC could have it
ready
prior to my builder's class in August, that way I could avoid shipping
and
save a trip by bringing it back with me. Good or bad idea? More
importantly, will the kit fit in my van, or would I need a trailer? I
have
a full-sized G20 series Chevy window van, and when I remove the rear two
seats, I have an area that is 4'4" wide (between wheel wells) X 4' high
X
10'4" deep.
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
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| Subject: | Re: Ordering 601XL Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
Good or bad
> idea? More
> importantly, will the kit fit in my van, or would I need
> a trailer? I have
> a full-sized G20 series Chevy window van, and when I
> remove the rear two
> seats, I have an area that is 4'4" wide (between wheel
> wells) X 4' high X
> 10'4" deep.
>
Good idea, Dave, EXCEPT...
The wing leading edge skins are a full 12' long and can't
be rolled. They're folded in cardboard, about 6" thick by
about 18" wide. I picked up my kit in my full sized Dodge
(long wheelbase), but had to set the wing skins on top of
the rear seat backs, stretching onto the top of the dash.
Also, the spars are around 10+' long, but for me, they fit
on the floor. The rest of the stuff should fit fine
inside your van. (not counting FWF)
Otherwise, I'd recommend a trailer.
--Rico, XL, 3 hours from MexicoMO
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| Subject: | Re: electronic circuit breaker panel |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Sigmo@aol.com
Don,
There are 10 switches and 18 terminals. Some provide power when the master is
on and some can be wired to provide keep alive voltage.
The thing I like is that the avionics switch controls 6 circuits with
protection at the normal wire protection level, but you can also have fuse protection
in line, if so desired, for component protection.
Switches 9 and 10 are aux circuit switches that I used to power two 10 unit
fuse blocks which are in a box that is hinged up under the control panel. These
hold the individual 1 to 3 amp fuses for each separate component.
The lights, fuel pump, master, alternator and, etc., are on their own
individually protected switches.
Having to develop and draft the electrical and avionics portion of this build
was my major challenge and between the information gained from this site and
others it has been interesting.
If someone here doesn't know it they know someone who does.
I am primarily a lurker on the site but have met some interesting people as a
result of off line contacts.
Best of luck with the project. It's worth the effort.
Mike
N7092N 601XL
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| Subject: | Re: Landing Light Lens |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Hi Blair:
I made my from Lexan last year in March. This montage of photos should be self
explanatory:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/3_28_04_LightLens.JPG
email me off line if you need more details.
Scott Laughlin
N5SL (reserved)
www.cooknwithgas.com
601XL/Corvair
Stuck in Houston for a few days
"Blair, Heath" <HBlair@chartercom.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Blair, Heath"
I have cracked my acrylic landing light lens from Zenith. I got the holes to close
to the outer edge and while opening the holes the lens cracked about 4 inches.
What is the best method of opening these holes? Special drill bit?
Could I buy plexy glass 1/8" thick and mold this to the wing using a heat gun?
If so would the heat from the lights be to hot and melt the plastic?
I know this has to be in the archives somewhere but I would rather have a fresh
opinion.
Here is the progress...
http://flyultralites.com/project29.html
Thanks,
Heath Blair N601XC
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