---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/11/05: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:08 AM - Hand flanging tool versus flanging dies (chrisoz@bmail.com.au) 2. 09:17 AM - N601LE flies for the first time! (charles.long@gm.com) 3. 10:24 AM - [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... (dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle)) 4. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Details (Jim Pellien) 5. 12:52 PM - Audio Panel (Bill Bartlett) 6. 01:58 PM - Elevator Hinge Lubrication (deanmford@aol.com) 7. 02:23 PM - (kenneth schooley) 8. 04:23 PM - Re: 601XL Details (Joemotis@aol.com) 9. 04:51 PM - Re: Elevator Hinge Lubrication (Bill Steer) 10. 04:51 PM - Re: Elevator Hinge Lubrication (Al Young) 11. 05:38 PM - Required gages, avionics, navagation instruments (Don Mountain) 12. 07:24 PM - CH 801 Wings, Fuel and Tail kits For Sale. () 13. 08:02 PM - Re: CH 801 Wings, Fuel and Tail kits For Sale. (John Maselli) 14. 09:24 PM - Aviation News (AVIATION GROUP) 15. 09:29 PM - Re: (no subject) 601XL kit for sale (Joemotis@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:08:51 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Hand flanging tool versus flanging dies From: chrisoz@bmail.com.au --> Zenith-List message posted by: chrisoz@bmail.com.au Hello listers, up to now I have always been able to use a friends flanging dies to flange the holes for ribs and spars. As this is no longer possible I am wondering wether I should get a set made, or wether those hand held flanging tools with the two little wheels are any good. Has anybody got any experience with the hand tool? It takes me about one minute to flange a rib hole with the dies, how long would it take with the tool, and what is the quality like? Thanks, Chris from Australia ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: N601LE flies for the first time! From: charles.long@gm.com 20, 2004) at 04/11/2005 12:16:42 PM --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com Flew my Zodie 601HDS for the first time on April 10th. It flew well with no rigging problems! Did have CHT issues with the Jabiru 3300 which required pulling back power, remaining in the pattern and landing. Some issues to sort out there, but a number of others have tackled this previously so will discuss this with them. A great feeling to have the first flight under my belt after 7 years of off and on building! Chuck Long ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:59 AM PST US From: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) Subject: Zenith-List: [Please Read!] Matronics List Server Back Online... --> Zenith-List message posted by: dralle@matronics.com (Matt Dralle) System problems continue to plague the Matronics Email server. Incoming List mail was being rejected from about 12am Monday morning until about 10am PDT Monday 4/11. It is unclear at this time what is causing the system problem, but I am feverishly working on the issue. I had to restore a list subscriptions database from an April 6th backup because all of the list files had been truncated. I then reran all of the subscribe/unsubscribe requests since the 6th. You may have just received a subscribe/unsubscribe request and the FAQ if you've subscribed/unsubscribed since the 6th. At this time new posts are being processed and operation should be considered normal. More as information developes... Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Admin DO NOT ARCHIVE -- Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551 925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle@matronics.com Email http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:50:48 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Re: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" Greg, I never heard back from you concerning the 601XL kit. Is it still available or has it been sold? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Jim Pellien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details Greg, I'm very interested in purchasing your 601XL kit. I'd like to get a group of 5 builders together in the Washington, DC area to build it and fly it. Are there any interested parties in the Washington, DC area who would like to join this group project? Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Greg Lamoree Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Greg Lamoree" There have been a whole bunch of questions reguarding my 601XL... so I'm answering everyone directly and to this list to try and answer those questions: The Serial Number is 5474 The kit consists of: Tail Kit Complete Airframe Kit Drawings and Manuals Aeroflash Light System with Tail Light and fiberglass rudder mount Landing Light Kit Recessed Elec. Aileron Trim Tab XL Fiberglass Main Wheel Fairings XL Fiberglass Nose Wheel Fairings Wing Locker baggage option Cortec Primer (2 qts) 1/8" Clecos 5/32" Clecos 3/32" Clecos 15 #30 Drill Bits 15 #20 Drill Bits Hand Riveter w/Custom Heads Pneumatic Hand Riveter w/Pressure Regulator Cleco Pliers Left & Right Sheet Metal Snips For a grand purchase price (I paid) of 18036.35 The purchase price (for you) will be 17000.00 (OBO) I'll ship anywhere, however, you can save a BUNCH of money if you were to pick it up. The purchaser will be responsible for boxing and shipping costs. -- -------------------------- Greg Lamoree Zodiac 601 XL www.GregsPlane.com -------------------------- -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:52:20 PM PST US From: "Bill Bartlett" Subject: Zenith-List: Audio Panel --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" I'm still struggling with my audio system. My panel consists of a PS Engineering audio panel with marker beacons; With one ICOM A200 transceiver; and, one Garmin (Apollo) SL-30 IFR Transceiver/VOR. Intercom on the audio panel works great by itself but when connected to the radios I get nothing. I have checked interconnection wiring for the upper and lower Molex connectors. Also when power is on all lights are illuminated with low intensity except the selected indicator light which is brighter than the others. Interconnection was in accordance with the drawing provided by PS Eng'g. The avionics shop at Aircraft-Spruce wasn't much help. . Are there are any radio technicians out there that can help? Bill, N140BB, 601XL, Dual Sticks, Tri Gear, Wheel Fairings, Wing Lockers, Aux Tanks, All Electric w/Blue Mountain-Lite, Audio Panel, Garmin SL-30 & ICOM Radios, Reddish Stall Warning. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:58:25 PM PST US From: deanmford@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Elevator Hinge Lubrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: deanmford@aol.com I am just finishing up my elevator and installing the trim tab (601XL). What lubrication should be applied to the hinge pin (elevator and trim tab) upon installation? Also, there was one doubler inside the elevator that was very difficult to install and the illustration showed the use of an angle drill. I was able to get past this one without that tool, but in the long run, should I invest in an angle drill? Will I use it several more times? Dean M. Ford ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:23:00 PM PST US From: "kenneth schooley" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "kenneth schooley" I am shopping for a Zen. 601XL. I'm a new subscriber, so I haven't learned all the rules yet to advertise on Matronics. I would like to find a kit under construction if possible, the price is not a major concideration, nor the location. I'm located in the San Diego Ca. area, but will drive any- where to pick up a kit. Thanks, Ken Schooley ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:31 PM PST US From: Joemotis@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com Hi I am Joe with the 601XL kit in Huntinton Beach CA. Please call 714 846 7821 714235 9708 for info. Thanks Joe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:06 PM PST US From: "Bill Steer" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Elevator Hinge Lubrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" ZAC says to use motor oil on the elevator hinge. Yes, an angle drill is indespensible. You'll use it over and over. Get a variety of bits for it. Bill > What lubrication should be applied to the hinge pin (elevator and trim tab) upon installation? > > run, should I invest in an angle drill? Will I use it several more times? ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:52 PM PST US From: "Al Young" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Elevator Hinge Lubrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" Dean- I would suggest you do. I have used my 90 degree air drill many times while building, especially on the fuselage. Good luck and have fun. I sure did. Regards, Al Young- 601XL- Waiting on FAA inspection. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:38:51 PM PST US From: Don Mountain Subject: Zenith-List: Required gages, avionics, navagation instruments --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain Are there required instruments that I have to have in building a 601 XL? Where might I find a list of everything required? I fly a Piper Cherokee now, and am using it as a pattern for instrumentation and lights. I am including a NAV radio, ELT, NAV lights, landing and taxi lights, and hopefully the two Dynon units, including navagational instrumentation and engine instrumentation. And a hand held GPS. Do I need a stall warning device? VOR? Don 601 XL tail done, flaps done, working on ailerons and wings. __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:24:10 PM PST US From: Subject: Zenith-List: CH 801 Wings, Fuel and Tail kits For Sale. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Several months after I bought these kits from the original buyer/builder, my department at work was merged with another and my staff responsibility, budget and troubles doubled; my time available to build plummeted to zero. That was two years ago, and the situation has not changed so, I am ready to face the reality that I will not be able to fulfill my dream of building this wonderful airplane. So, I have for sale a new and in the crate, (untouched except to inventory) 801 Wing kit ($6,245), Fuel kit ($1,225) and the complete Tail (rudder, stab & elevator) kit ($1,750). The previous owner has built the tail. On top of these costs you'd pay crating charges, as well as, taxes so, there is over $10k invested in this kit as it sits. I'm asking $7,000, or best offer, for the whole shebang. I lurk this list, as I have for the past three or four years, and will continue to do so when I can find the time but, the safest way to reach me is directly via e-mail at peapod_driver@yahoo.com or by phone at 608-877-1294 between 6:00 and 9:00pm CST weekdays and anytime weekends. If you really want to see pictures of the crate, and whats in it, or the completed tail, drop me a line and I'll send you the photos. I wish I could join the ranks of the rest of you fulfilling your dreams of building. I'm crushed that I have to bail on this but I remain hopeful that someday I'll have the opportunity again. Thanks for your time and space. Jim __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:02:57 PM PST US From: John Maselli Subject: RE: Zenith-List: CH 801 Wings, Fuel and Tail kits For Sale. --> Zenith-List message posted by: John Maselli I really feel for you. I am just about in the same position but havn't given up yet. I could use your fuel tanks if my situation gets better! John Maselli A Computer Consulting 516-524-0420 _____ I've stopped 1,014 spam messages. You can too! One month FREE spam protection at www.cloudmark.com Cloudmark SpamNet - Join the fight against spam! -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of peapod_driver@yahoo.com Subject: Zenith-List: CH 801 Wings, Fuel and Tail kits For Sale. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Several months after I bought these kits from the original buyer/builder, my department at work was merged with another and my staff responsibility, budget and troubles doubled; my time available to build plummeted to zero. That was two years ago, and the situation has not changed so, I am ready to face the reality that I will not be able to fulfill my dream of building this wonderful airplane. So, I have for sale a new and in the crate, (untouched except to inventory) 801 Wing kit ($6,245), Fuel kit ($1,225) and the complete Tail (rudder, stab & elevator) kit ($1,750). The previous owner has built the tail. On top of these costs you'd pay crating charges, as well as, taxes so, there is over $10k invested in this kit as it sits. I'm asking $7,000, or best offer, for the whole shebang. I lurk this list, as I have for the past three or four years, and will continue to do so when I can find the time but, the safest way to reach me is directly via e-mail at peapod_driver@yahoo.com or by phone at 608-877-1294 between 6:00 and 9:00pm CST weekdays and anytime weekends. If you really want to see pictures of the crate, and whats in it, or the completed tail, drop me a line and I'll send you the photos. I wish I could join the ranks of the rest of you fulfilling your dreams of building. I'm crushed that I have to bail on this but I remain hopeful that someday I'll have the opportunity again. Thanks for your time and space. 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With best regards AVIATION NEWS. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AVIATION-NEWS/ --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:29:08 PM PST US From: Joemotis@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Re: (no subject) 601XL kit for sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com Hi Ihave 601XL kit for sale in Huntington Beach. It is on ebay here is the link _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=45421762 35&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4542176235&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT) Thanks Joe