---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 04/12/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:49 AM - Required guages, avionics, navigation equipment (The Keeners) 2. 06:24 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Required gages, avionics, navagation instruments (Gig Giacona) 3. 06:36 AM - Re: N601LE flies for the first time! (Schemmel, Grant) 4. 06:40 AM - Sun and Fun parking (ron dewees) 5. 06:47 AM - Fw: TieDown Testing (Larry Martin) 6. 06:56 AM - Re: Fw: TieDown Testing (N5SL) 7. 07:06 AM - Re: 601XL Details (Jim Pellien) 8. 07:09 AM - Re: 601XL Details (Jim Pellien) 9. 07:15 AM - ZAC customer service (Robert Schoenberger) 10. 08:03 AM - FIXED WING SLSA's RECEIVE GREEN LIGHT FROM FAA (Jim Pellien) 11. 08:15 AM - Fuel gauge question for EIS users: (Randy Culp) 12. 08:17 AM - Re: 601XL Details (Joemotis@aol.com) 13. 08:49 AM - Re: Fuel gauge question for EIS users: (Tom Faulkner) 14. 02:50 PM - Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages (Don Mountain) 15. 03:25 PM - Re: 601XL kit for sale (Dan Knezacek) 16. 04:03 PM - Re: Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages (Lance Gingell) 17. 06:39 PM - Re: Elevator Hinge Lubrication (Matt & Jo) 18. 07:12 PM - Re: Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages (Don Mountain) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:07 AM PST US From: "The Keeners" Subject: Zenith-List: Required guages, avionics, navigation equipment --> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Keeners" Check FAR Part 91.... I know that's a good start, but it may not be all inclusive.... Here's a website: http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgFAR.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet Good luck. Forest K. 601XL Rudder Complete/Stab Started ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:24:19 AM PST US From: "Gig Giacona" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: Required gages, avionics, navagation instruments --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" 91.205 Powered civil aircraft with standard category U.S. airworthiness certificates: Instrument and equipment requirements. (a) General. Except as provided in paragraphs (c)(3) and (e) of this section, no person may operate a powered civil aircraft with a standard category U.S. airworthiness certificate in any operation described in paragraphs (b) through (f) of this section unless that aircraft contains the instruments and equipment specified in those paragraphs (or FAA-approved equivalents) for that type of operation, and those instruments and items of equipment are in operable condition. (b) Visual-flight rules (day). For VFR flight during the day, the following instruments and equipment are required: (1) Airspeed indicator. (2) Altimeter. (3) Magnetic direction indicator. (4) Tachometer for each engine. (5) Oil pressure gauge for each engine using pressure system. (6) Temperature gauge for each liquid-cooled engine. (7) Oil temperature gauge for each air-cooled engine. (8) Manifold pressure gauge for each altitude engine. (9) Fuel gauge indicating the quantity of fuel in each tank. (10) Landing gear position indicator, if the aircraft has a retractable landing gear. (11) For small civil airplanes certificated after March 11, 1996, in accordance with part 23 of this chapter, an approved aviation red or aviation white anticollision light system. In the event of failure of any light of the anticollision light system, operation of the aircraft may continue to a location where repairs or replacement can be made. (12) If the aircraft is operated for hire over water and beyond power-off gliding distance from shore, approved flotation gear readily available to each occupant and, unless the aircraft is operating under part 121 of this subchapter, at least one pyrotechnic signaling device. As used in this section, shore means that area of the land adjacent to the water which is above the high water mark and excludes land areas which are intermittently under water. (13) An approved safety belt with an approved metal-to-metal latching device for each occupant 2 years of age or older. (14) For small civil airplanes manufactured after July 18, 1978, an approved shoulder harness for each front seat. The shoulder harness must be designed to protect the occupant from serious head injury when the occupant experiences the ultimate inertia forces specified in 23.561(b)(2) of this chapter. Each shoulder harness installed at a flight crewmember station must permit the crewmember, when seated and with the safety belt and shoulder harness fastened, to perform all functions necessary for flight operations. For purposes of this paragraph (i) The date of manufacture of an airplane is the date the inspection acceptance records reflect that the airplane is complete and meets the FAA-approved type design data; and (ii) A front seat is a seat located at a flight crewmember station or any seat located alongside such a seat. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zenith-List Digest Server" Subject: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 04/11/05 > Time: 05:38:51 PM PST US > From: Don Mountain > Subject: Zenith-List: Required gages, avionics, navagation instruments > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain > > Are there required instruments that I have to have in > building a 601 XL? Where might I find a list of > everything required? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:39 AM PST US From: "Schemmel, Grant" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: N601LE flies for the first time! --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Schemmel, Grant" Congratulations Chuck! It's a great feeling, and definitely worth it when you finally get it all done. All done? What am I saying, these things are never actually finished! Good flying! Grant Schemmel Penrose, CO Time: 09:17:11 AM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: N601LE flies for the first time! From: charles.long@gm.com 20, 2004) at 04/11/2005 12:16:42 PM --> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com Flew my Zodie 601HDS for the first time on April 10th. It flew well with no rigging problems! Did have CHT issues with the Jabiru 3300 which required pulling back power, remaining in the pattern and landing. Some issues to sort out there, but a number of others have tackled this previously so will discuss this with them. A great feeling to have the first flight under my belt after 7 years of off and on building! Chuck Long ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:40:49 AM PST US From: "ron dewees" Subject: Zenith-List: Sun and Fun parking --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ron dewees" Hi Zenair Sun and Fun attendees-- or those already there- Where are Zenairs going to park. If the weather clears a bit I will take N601TD and hopefully meet a lot of folks for the Thursday festivities. I've never seen two Zenairs parked next to each other so don't know if there is any "tradition" involved here. In the past I have parked the Mooney in the vintage area and it's convenient to most things. Sure is a pain to have the field close 2 1/2 hours sooner than in the past. Will make for some early morining decision making. Thanks Ron N601TD ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:28 AM PST US From: "Larry Martin" Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: TieDown Testing --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" The e-mail below has not appeared on the Zenith list, you may have lost it during your server troubles. Thanks, Larry Martin. Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ----- Original Message ----- From: Larry Martin Subject: TieDown Testing The discussion about tiedowns the other day was very timely and got me thinking about building my own. I liked the nail idea and decided to build and test a pipe type and one of my own design. Mine might not be unique, but I haven't seen one. I'm not going to sell them anyway, so it doesn't matter. I didn't have a dog screw-in type, but someone said it pulled out pretty easy anyway, so why test it. I have posted the results on my site. You can see them at www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/tiedowns.html. If that doesn't work just go to my site and look at the bottom of the home page. Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:56:35 AM PST US From: N5SL Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fw: TieDown Testing --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL Larry that is good stuff! Thank you for taking the time and for posting the photos! Scott Laughlin http://www.cooknwithgas.com/ N5SL (reserved) Mounting more instruments DO NOT ARCHIVE From: Larry Martin The discussion about tiedowns the other day was very timely and got me thinking about building my own. --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:06:47 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" Joe, What is included in the 601XL kit? Is it unopened...in original packing containers? Jim Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic SportsPlanes.com (MASPL) 703-313-4818 www.Pellien.com/MASPL.htm www.sportsplanes.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joemotis@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com Hi I am Joe with the 601XL kit in Huntinton Beach CA. Please call 714 846 7821 714235 9708 for info. Thanks Joe ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:37 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" Joe, Thanks for the information. I'll look it over. Jim Pellien Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic SportsPlanes.com (MASPL) 703-313-4818 www.Pellien.com/MASPL.htm www.sportsplanes.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joemotis@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com Hi I am Joe with the 601XL kit in Huntinton Beach CA. Please call 714 846 7821 714235 9708 for info. Thanks Joe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:34 AM PST US From: "Robert Schoenberger" Subject: Zenith-List: ZAC customer service --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" List . . . occasionally someone will bash ZAC for one thing or another. I'd like to relate a positive experience. Sunday, almost a year after I received the fuselage crate, I opened and inventoried it. (I know - this is supposed to be done immediately!) After finding all the parts in good order, I lifted the bottommost layer of cardboard and was very surprised to find a sizable quantity of very useable sheet "scraps", some of good size. These will come in handy, and I thank ZAC for this extra bonus. Robert Schoenberger 701 55% ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:03:00 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Zenith-List: FIXED WING SLSA's RECEIVE GREEN LIGHT FROM FAA 1.25 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" Not sure if everybody has seen the latest from the FAA regarding the Special Light Sport Aircraft (SLSA). Here is the announcement contained on the EAA website. Jim ==================================================================================================== ========= 04/07/05 - FIXED-WING MANUFACTURERS GET THE GREEN LIGHT TO SELL READY-TO-FLY LSA Light-sport aircraft manufacturers producing fixed-wing LSA can now sell their aircraft as special LSA (S-LSA), opening the door for sport pilots and others to purchase these aircraft. The FAA Thursday (April 7) issued a Notice of Availability (NOA) for the last critical consensus standard for this category of LSA, "Standard Practice for Maintenance and the Development of Maintenance Manuals for Light Sport Aircraft." Larry Werth, light-sport aircraft program manager for the Small Airplane Directorate, confirmed that the NOA had been signed earlier today. "This is the last piece of the puzzle; now fixed-wing S-LSA manufacturers can issue their statements of compliance with the ASTM consensus standards and start selling aircraft." Work continues on the standards for experimental LSA (E-LSA) kits for all categories of LSA. ==================================================================================================== ========= ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:15:41 AM PST US From: "Randy Culp" Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel gauge question for EIS users: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Culp" Question for those of you who are using the Grand Rapids EIS: Are you also installing separate fuel gauges? Or only using the EIS to monitor your fuel levels? Or both? (Is that possible?) I'm just wondering if it's a big deal to have to "page" through the EIS displays during the pre-flight or not. I've never actually used one of these yet. Any thoughts/comments would be appreciated. Thanks; Randy Culp 601XL/ Corvair Sarnia, Ontario do not archive Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:17:23 AM PST US From: Joemotis@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Details --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com the pics should hep please call 714 846 7821 eves or cell 714 235 9708 for more info Thanks joe ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:12 AM PST US From: "Tom Faulkner" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuel gauge question for EIS users: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom Faulkner" Randy: I used the EIS only for fuel gauges and set-up a programmable page to display fuel level and other parameters all the time. Once you use it awhile, it is very easy and accurate. Tom Faulkner CH801 with Eggenfellner H6 Subaru ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:25 PM PST US From: Don Mountain Subject: Zenith-List: Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain I purchased the electric aileron trim tab option for my 601 XL, and was getting ready to rivet up the ailerons when I noticed that I hadn't installed the trim tab. I have the parts, but no plans or manual pages describing the installation or where it even goes. Does anybody know where on the CD or plans package they are? Or which section on the ZAC web page they are? Or has somebody else already received them from ZAC and can can email them to me? Don 601 XL tail done, Flaps done, working on ailerons __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:25:04 PM PST US From: Dan Knezacek Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 601XL kit for sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: Dan Knezacek --> Zenith-List message posted by: Joemotis@aol.com Hi Ihave 601XL kit for sale in Huntington Beach. It is on ebay here is the link _http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=45421762 35&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT_ (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4542176235&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT) Thanks Joe . kenneth schooley wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kenneth schooley" > >I am shopping for a Zen. 601XL. I'm a new subscriber, so I haven't learned >all the rules yet to advertise on Matronics. I would like to find a kit >under construction if possible, the price is not a major concideration, nor >the location. I'm located in the San Diego Ca. area, but will drive any- >where to pick up a kit. Thanks, Ken Schooley > > >. > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:03:54 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages From: "Lance Gingell" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" When I built mine a year ago, there was no photo guide, just the drawing 6-ATO-1. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Mountain Subject: Zenith-List: Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain I purchased the electric aileron trim tab option for my 601 XL, and was getting ready to rivet up the ailerons when I noticed that I hadn't installed the trim tab. I have the parts, but no plans or manual pages describing the installation or where it even goes. Does anybody know where on the CD or plans package they are? Or which section on the ZAC web page they are? Or has somebody else already received them from ZAC and can can email them to me? ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:37 PM PST US From: "Matt & Jo" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Elevator Hinge Lubrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" Dean, I don't use an angle drill a lot, but when I need one it is very handy. I found a good one at http://store.yahoo.com/tight-fit-tools/index.html It works well and wasn't too expensive. Check it out. I have some there are some pics on my web site. http://www.zodiacxl.com/Elevator.htm Cheers, Matt www.zodiacxl.com > Also, there was one doubler inside the elevator that was very difficult to > install and the illustration > showed the use of an angle drill. I was able to get past this one without > that tool, but in the long > run, should I invest in an angle drill? Will I use it several more times? > > Dean M. Ford > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 07:12:21 PM PST US From: Don Mountain Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Aileron trim tab plans and manual pages --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain > In my set of plans, the aileron trim tab drawing is > at the back....with some > of the other options. Thanks Randy, I appreciate it. My co-builder found them for me in the back of the set of drawings. I was hoping there were some manual pages to help with the dimensions too, but she couldn't find them anywhere. Don 601 XL tail done, flaps done, working on ailerons. __________________________________