---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/13/05: 24 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:51 AM - How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Jim Pellien) 2. 06:58 AM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Phil Maxson) 3. 07:07 AM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Bill Bartlett) 4. 07:21 AM - Re: Elevator Hinge Lubrication (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 5. 07:38 AM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Randy Stout) 6. 08:21 AM - Fuel Gauge Question (Stanley Challgren) 7. 08:45 AM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Craig Payne) 8. 08:46 AM - Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work (Fred Sanford) 9. 08:48 AM - tie downs (Keystone Engineering LLC) 10. 09:19 AM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? () 11. 09:41 AM - How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA? (Jim Pellien) 12. 10:15 AM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Jim Pellien) 13. 11:18 AM - Re: Audio Panel (Weston, Jim) 14. 12:16 PM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Gary Gower) 15. 12:54 PM - Re: Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work (n801bh@netzero.com) 16. 01:58 PM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Bill Bartlett) 17. 01:58 PM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? () 18. 02:00 PM - Re: Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work (cgalley) 19. 02:29 PM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? () 20. 04:51 PM - Re: Sun and Fun parking (David Barth) 21. 04:59 PM - Re: See you at SnF () 22. 05:14 PM - Re: Sun and Fun parking (ron dewees) 23. 06:58 PM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Paul Moore) 24. 07:07 PM - Re: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? (Paul Moore) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:44 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? 1.25 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be delivered in August. One aviation insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that there are more than 25 registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in the US. Nevertheless this particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or something where the number of registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this information? Thanks, Jim ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:55 AM PST US From: "Phil Maxson" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" It seems like Zenith Aircraft would have that information, and they would be authoritative. Phil Maxson 601XL/Corvair Installing Canopy Northwest New Jersey >From: "Jim Pellien" > >I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be delivered >in August. One aviation >insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that >there are more than 25 >registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in the >US. Nevertheless this >particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or >something where the number of >registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this >information? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:43 AM PST US From: "Bill Bartlett" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith aircrafts in the US. http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm Bill, N140BB -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be delivered in August. One aviation insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that there are more than 25 registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in the US. Nevertheless this particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or something where the number of registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this information? Thanks, Jim ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:21:23 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Elevator Hinge Lubrication From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Rather than an angle drill I would invest in a couple of die grinders. I didn't when I built the 601HDS but I use them all the time on the RV. The RV seems to have a lot more situations where a right angled drill is necessary and with those metal cutting burrs are the die grinders are very very useful...And dirt cheap from harbor freight. Using the $1.60 3" cutting disc from Vans is no better way to trim the canopy in the right angled die grinder. How does this relate to a RA drill?....the die grinders come with 1/8" and 1/4 collets...It will take a #30 drill and by slipping a short letngh of 1/4" tube on the end of the drill bit a 3/16th works great too. With the very small head the RA die grinder makes it a good impression of a tight fit RZ drill. Frank 601 HDS flying 354 hours RV 7A...Building 280 hours..:) -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt & Jo Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Elevator Hinge Lubrication --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" Dean, I don't use an angle drill a lot, but when I need one it is very handy. I found a good one at http://store.yahoo.com/tight-fit-tools/index.html It works well and wasn't too expensive. Check it out. I have some there are some pics on my web site. http://www.zodiacxl.com/Elevator.htm Cheers, Matt www.zodiacxl.com ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:38:05 AM PST US From: "Randy Stout" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" Kinda makes you wonder if they know their business or not. Randy Stout n282rs"at"earthlink.net www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 > [Original Message] > From: Bill Bartlett > To: > Date: 4/13/2005 9:07:14 AM > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > > Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith > aircrafts in the US. > > http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm > > Bill, > N140BB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" > > I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be > delivered in August. One aviation > insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that > there are more than 25 > registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in > the US. Nevertheless this > particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or > something where the number of > registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this > information? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:02 AM PST US From: Stanley Challgren Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Gauge Question --> Zenith-List message posted by: Stanley Challgren Question for those of you who are using the Grand Rapids EIS: Are you also installing separate fuel gauges? Or only using the EIS to monitor your fuel levels? Or both? (Is that possible?) Yes, we installed a separate fuel gauge. The best there is, a see-through tube connecting the top and bottom of the tank as recommended by ZAC and our tech counsellor Kent Paser. The EIS gives a very exact measurement of the fuel remaining and is not affected by the aircraft attitude as is the tube. Stan 601HDS/Jab 3300 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:16 AM PST US From: Craig Payne Subject: Re: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne But aren't the builders listed as the "manufacturer". I am for my 601XL. -- Craig Bill Bartlett wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > > Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith > aircrafts in the US. > > http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm > > Bill, > N140BB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" > > I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be > delivered in August. One aviation > insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that > there are more than 25 > registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in > the US. Nevertheless this > particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or > something where the number of > registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this > information? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:03 AM PST US From: Fred Sanford Subject: Zenith-List: Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work --> Zenith-List message posted by: Fred Sanford Hi all: I'm almost done - swinging the compass. Nowhere inside the steel frame do I get a reliable reading. The stick has a north and a south pole on it, and the major cabin cage - especially at the front wing attach points - is terrible. We're talking 30 degrees off at the middle top frame, and 40 degrees off just above the mid instrument panel. Have found some stuff in the archives, but still feel a little out on that limb. Does anyone have a simple degaussing strategy?? Fred Sanford, California, 701 99% 11 months into the project do not archive ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:48:43 AM PST US From: Keystone Engineering LLC Subject: Zenith-List: tie downs --> Zenith-List message posted by: Keystone Engineering LLC I have a couple of thoughts. First don't tie down your plane to something you could put inside and fly with. Second as an engineer I could put a factor of safety of at least 4 on the results to find save loads. Given the different soils you could encounter and the value of a plane this is probably not conservative enough. Pull out 150 Safe load 38 Pull out 280 Safe load 70 I'm not sure you have something better than good wheel chocks or digging holes in the ground and rolling the wheels into the holes. One method I have used when in the bush is to bring a shovel, a sand bag (empty) and rope. Fill the sand bag with dirt. Dig a deep hole. Bury the full sand bag with the rope around it in a hole. Fill and compact the hole with dirt. If you do the rope trick right you can leave the bag and just take the rope when you go. This method along with 8" deep holes for the wheels worked in up to 40 mph winds in the old tri-pacer. The wind blows in Bristol Bay but there is great fishing and lots of game. Point the plane into the wind!!! Bill Wilcox N801BW 150 hrs Grounded, having oil pressure problems! Valdez, AK The discussion about tiedowns the other day was very timely and got me thinking about building my own. I liked the nail idea and decided to build and test a pipe type and one of my own design. Mine might not be unique, but I haven't seen one. I'm not going to sell them anyway, so it doesn't matter. I didn't have a dog screw-in type, but someone said it pulled out pretty easy anyway, so why test it. I have posted the results on my site. You can see them at www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/tiedowns.html. If that doesn't work just go to my site and look at the bottom of the home page. Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:19:29 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? From: clamav-milter version 0.80j on apollo --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sure. The FAA N registration numbers list. First off, get a list of completed planes or a builders list from Zenith, then go to the FAA file and get the N Numbers. Only one problem I can see. Any 601XL registed will be experimental. Will the Ins company accept that? Jeff Glassetow CH601 HDS 6384E > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" > > I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be > delivered in August. One aviation insurance company said that they can > insure the aircraft provided that there are more than 25 registered and > flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in the US. > Nevertheless this particular company needs a relaible reference or > source document or something where the number of registered 601XL's is > listed. Does anybody know where to find this information? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:26 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA? 1.25 RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO Received: contains an IP address used for HELO --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" I went to the FAA database (thanks, Bill) and after discarding the registrations which were for other Zenith models, or you could not determine what the model was, I calculated the following statistics for the 601 models: 601 XL Registrations = 75 601 HDS Registrations = 69 601 HD Registrations = 37 Other 601 registrations = 5 TOTAL 601 Registrations = 186 Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic SportsPlanes.com (MASPL) 703-313-4818 www.Pellien.com/MASPL.htm www.sportsplanes.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Bartlett Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith aircrafts in the US. http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm Bill, N140BB -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be delivered in August. One aviation insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that there are more than 25 registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in the US. Nevertheless this particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or something where the number of registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this information? Thanks, Jim ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:15:05 AM PST US From: "Jim Pellien" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" Craig, Just search on the model, not the manufacturer. Search first for "Zenith" under model and you'll get a bunch, including 701's etc in addition to 601's. Then search for "Zodiac" and you'll get a bunch more 601's, 186 in all for 601's. Jim Jim Pellien Mid-Atlantic SportsPlanes.com (MASPL) 703-313-4818 www.Pellien.com/MASPL.htm www.sportsplanes.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Craig Payne Subject: Re: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne But aren't the builders listed as the "manufacturer". I am for my 601XL. -- Craig Bill Bartlett wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > > Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith > aircrafts in the US. > > http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm > > Bill, > N140BB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" > > I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be > delivered in August. One aviation > insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that > there are more than 25 > registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in > the US. Nevertheless this > particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or > something where the number of > registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this > information? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:18:21 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Audio Panel From: "Weston, Jim" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" It's hard to say without being there and troubleshooting the problem, but it sounds like you may have a grounding problem. Make sure that the ground that you have provided for the intercom, and the radios, is a good ground all the way back to the negative terminal of the battery. In fact, you can connect some temporary jumpers direct to the battery for troubleshooting. Don't forget to keep a fuse in line. Good Luck, Jim Weston 601HDS w/Stratus Concord, Ga. -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bartlett Subject: Zenith-List: Audio Panel --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" --> I'm still struggling with my audio system. My panel consists of a PS Engineering audio panel with marker beacons; With one ICOM A200 transceiver; and, one Garmin (Apollo) SL-30 IFR Transceiver/VOR. Intercom on the audio panel works great by itself but when connected to the radios I get nothing. I have checked interconnection wiring for the upper and lower Molex connectors. Also when power is on all lights are illuminated with low intensity except the selected indicator light which is brighter than the others. Interconnection was in accordance with the drawing provided by PS Eng'g. The avionics shop at Aircraft-Spruce wasn't much help. . Are there are any radio technicians out there that can help? Bill, N140BB, 601XL, Dual Sticks, Tri Gear, Wheel Fairings, Wing Lockers, Aux Tanks, All Electric w/Blue Mountain-Lite, Audio Panel, Garmin SL-30 & ICOM Radios, Reddish Stall Warning. ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 12:16:17 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Thats right, here we had lots of problems with planes insurance, we kind of beg them for actually get our money off our hands! In a Club metting we ggot a plan to work the insurance diferent. We buy "wholesale", all the 50 (~) airplanes in the club goes in a package for the best Insurance company that give us the best price/coverage. In this last 3 years. They really fight for the package. Most of the time the winner also gets a bonus of several other insurance plans (personal, car or bussiness) from some members... Even the insurance policies that are "alive" they get the promise to change to the winner when renew time gets there. We like to make the "group power" work. For next year another club with about 30 planes will join us in the "deal"... You will sorprise how great they treat us since. Maybe is diferent in USA... Saludos Gary Gower. Do not archive. Randy Stout wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" Kinda makes you wonder if they know their business or not. Randy Stout n282rs"at"earthlink.net www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 > [Original Message] > From: Bill Bartlett > To: > Date: 4/13/2005 9:07:14 AM > Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > > Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith > aircrafts in the US. > > http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm > > Bill, > N140BB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" > > I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be > delivered in August. One aviation > insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that > there are more than 25 > registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in > the US. Nevertheless this > particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or > something where the number of > registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this > information? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:54:44 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" Hi all: I'm almost done - swinging the compass. Nowhere inside the steel frame do I get a reliable reading. The stick has a north and a south pole on it, and the major cabin cage - especially at the front wing attach points - is terrible. We're talking 30 degrees off at the middle top frame, and 40 degrees off just above the mid instrument panel. Have found some stuff in the archives, but still feel a little out on that limb. Does anyone have a simple degaussing strategy?? Fred Sanford, California, 701 99% 11 months into the project do not archive /////////// My 801 does the exact same thing. I found this out after I installed my windshield so demagging the front down tubes are going to be a pain for sure. Just between you and me, who even uses a compass anymore. I have two GPS's, a DG and try to stay VFR. If you find a easy way to fix this please post it Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:08 PM PST US From: "Bill Bartlett" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" It is not Zenith's responsibility to keep current with all their aircraft registrations. Some never get registered. However in the good ole USA the FAA does an excellent job of making registrations a matter of public record. The FAA web site listing Zenith aircraft registrations is: http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm Once there 1) Click on tab "Make/Model. This takes you to the FAA registry screen. 2) On the FAA registry screen leave the mfg. blank. 3) On the FAA registry screen enter "Zenith" in the Model Name. This should satisfy any Insurance Company as to an official list of registered Zenith aircraft. Bill -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne Subject: Re: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne But aren't the builders listed as the "manufacturer". I am for my 601XL. -- Craig Bill Bartlett wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > > Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith > aircrafts in the US. > > http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm > > Bill, > N140BB > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" > > I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be > delivered in August. One aviation > insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that > there are more than 25 > registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in > the US. Nevertheless this > particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or > something where the number of > registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this > information? > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:58:08 PM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? From: clamav-milter version 0.80j on apollo --> Zenith-List message posted by: Great Idea! Jim, Something you want to look into?... Approach Avemco or another one of the 10 underwriters that write aircraft insurace to see if they would write a group policy to insure a group of 601's at a "fleet" rate... How many members of this list would be interested in such a plan? Jeff Glasserow Ch 601 Hds N6384E > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > Thats right, here we had lots of problems with planes insurance, we > kind of beg them for actually get our money off our hands! In a Club > metting we ggot a plan to work the insurance diferent. > > We buy "wholesale", all the 50 (~) airplanes in the club goes in a > package for the best Insurance company that give us the best > price/coverage. > > In this last 3 years. They really fight for the package. Most of the > time the winner also gets a bonus of several other insurance plans > (personal, car or bussiness) from some members... > > Even the insurance policies that are "alive" they get the promise to > change to the winner when renew time gets there. We like to make the > "group power" work. For next year another club with about 30 planes > will join us in the "deal"... > > You will sorprise how great they treat us since. Maybe is diferent in > USA... > > Saludos > Gary Gower. > Do not archive. > > > Randy Stout wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" > > Kinda makes you wonder if they know their business or not. > > Randy Stout > n282rs"at"earthlink.net > www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Bill Bartlett >> To: >> Date: 4/13/2005 9:07:14 AM >> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? >> >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > >> >> Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith >> aircrafts in the US. >> >> http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm >> >> Bill, >> N140BB >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Pellien To: zenith-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? >> >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" >> >> I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be >> delivered in August. One aviation >> insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that >> there are more than 25 >> registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in >> the US. Nevertheless this >> particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or >> something where the number of >> registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this >> information? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:13 PM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" Try Sacramento Air Ranch - John Schwanner. He has info posted and will rent a degausser as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Magnetized frame 701--- Compass won't work > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" > > > > Hi all: > I'm almost done - swinging the compass. Nowhere inside the steel frame > do I get a reliable reading. The stick has a north and a south pole on > it, and the major cabin cage - especially at the front wing attach > points - is terrible. We're talking 30 degrees off at the middle top > frame, and 40 degrees off just above the mid instrument panel. > Have found some stuff in the archives, but still feel a little out on > that limb. > Does anyone have a simple degaussing strategy?? > > Fred Sanford, California, 701 99% 11 months into the project > do not archive > /////////// > > > My 801 does the exact same thing. I found this out after I installed my > windshield so demagging the front down tubes are going to be a pain for > sure. Just between you and me, who even uses a compass anymore. I have two > GPS's, a DG and try to stay VFR. If you find a easy way to fix this please > post it > > Ben Haas > N801BH > www.haaspowerair.com > > > ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:46 PM PST US From: Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: All, I certainly would be! Patrick Stafford, 601XL N567KW DO NOT ARCHIVE -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jeffglass@starband.net Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Great Idea! Jim, Something you want to look into?... Approach Avemco or another one of the 10 underwriters that write aircraft insurace to see if they would write a group policy to insure a group of 601's at a "fleet" rate... How many members of this list would be interested in such a plan? Jeff Glasserow Ch 601 Hds N6384E > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > Thats right, here we had lots of problems with planes insurance, we > kind of beg them for actually get our money off our hands! In a Club > metting we ggot a plan to work the insurance diferent. > > We buy "wholesale", all the 50 (~) airplanes in the club goes in a > package for the best Insurance company that give us the best > price/coverage. > > In this last 3 years. They really fight for the package. Most of the > time the winner also gets a bonus of several other insurance plans > (personal, car or bussiness) from some members... > > Even the insurance policies that are "alive" they get the promise to > change to the winner when renew time gets there. We like to make the > "group power" work. For next year another club with about 30 planes > will join us in the "deal"... > > You will sorprise how great they treat us since. Maybe is diferent in > USA... > > Saludos > Gary Gower. > Do not archive. > > > Randy Stout wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" > > Kinda makes you wonder if they know their business or not. > > Randy Stout > n282rs"at"earthlink.net > www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 > > >> [Original Message] >> From: Bill Bartlett >> To: >> Date: 4/13/2005 9:07:14 AM >> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? >> >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" > >> >> Jim, go to the address below for a listing of all registered Zenith >> aircrafts in the US. >> >> http://162.58.35.241/acdatabase/acmain.htm >> >> Bill, >> N140BB >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim >> Pellien To: zenith-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? >> >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" >> >> I am shopping for insurance for my new 601XL SLSA which will be >> delivered in August. One aviation >> insurance company said that they can insure the aircraft provided that >> there are more than 25 >> registered and flying in the US. There are perhaps hundreds flying in >> the US. Nevertheless this >> particular company needs a relaible reference or source document or >> something where the number of >> registered 601XL's is listed. Does anybody know where to find this >> information? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 04:51:43 PM PST US From: David Barth Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sun and Fun parking --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth Hi Ron. I was just out on the field and they try to park the homebuilts with their type. I just saw Brian Martin's bird but haven't met his yet. Will tomorrow night though. Hope to see you there (here) Weather is predicted to be fabulous like it has all week with the exception of the rain this am. Fly safe. David ron dewees wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ron dewees" Hi Zenair Sun and Fun attendees-- or those already there- Where are Zenairs going to park. If the weather clears a bit I will take N601TD and hopefully meet a lot of folks for the Thursday festivities. I've never seen two Zenairs parked next to each other so don't know if there is any "tradition" involved here. In the past I have parked the Mooney in the vintage area and it's convenient to most things. Sure is a pain to have the field close 2 1/2 hours sooner than in the past. Will make for some early morining decision making. Thanks Ron N601TD David Barth 601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done? Working on Wings www.ch601.org ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:41 PM PST US From: <601xl@sympatico.ca> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: See you at SnF --> Zenith-List message posted by: <601xl@sympatico.ca> BBQ is Tomorrow at Sun-N-Fun for all attending take the Brown 2 tram to shuttle stop 15 were located behind the bench. Mark Do Not archive > > From: "Mark Stauffer" > Date: 2005/04/09 Sat PM 11:38:27 EST > To: "Zenith List" > Subject: Zenith-List: See you at SnF > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 05:14:14 PM PST US From: "ron dewees" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sun and Fun parking --> Zenith-List message posted by: "ron dewees" Thanks David, I will be taking the Mooney and parking in the vintage area, but will try to make the get-together tomorrow evening. I'm leaving at 7 AM tomorrow. Ron ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Barth" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sun and Fun parking > --> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth > > Hi Ron. I was just out on the field and they try to park the homebuilts with their type. I just saw Brian Martin's bird but haven't met his yet. Will tomorrow night though. Hope to see you there (here) Weather is predicted to be fabulous like it has all week with the exception of the rain this am. Fly safe. > David > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 06:58:54 PM PST US From: "Paul Moore" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" Some are also listed as Zenair models so a model search on "Zen" will retrieve even more, I believe. By the way, does anyone have any C model or O-200 Cont. rocker arms and pushrods they are willing to part with? Paul Moore XL O-200 Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: Jim Pellien Subject: Re: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? Craig, Just search on the model, not the manufacturer. Search first for "Zenith" under model and you'll get a bunch, including 701's etc in addition to 601's. Then search for "Zodiac" and you'll get a bunch more 601's, 186 in all for 601's. Jim ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:07:29 PM PST US From: "Paul Moore" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" The group powered insurance deal IS a really good idea! Thanks Gary! I'm in if it gets going... Paul Moore XL - O-200 N1054 Do Not Archive -----Original Message----- From: jeffglass@starband.net Subject: RE: Zenith-List: How Many 601XL's are Registered with FAA??? How many members of this list would be interested in such a plan?