---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 04/28/05:27 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:04 AM - Re: Tight fit angle drill? (Cdngoose) 2. 05:10 AM - Re: Tight fit angle drill? (Richard Cottingham) 3. 06:16 AM - Rudder lube (Larry McFarland) 4. 06:16 AM - Re: Tight fit angle drill? (Russell Johnson) 5. 07:52 AM - Re: 601 XL Canopy Lock (Brett) 6. 07:58 AM - Re: Tight fit angle drill? (Don Mountain) 7. 07:59 AM - Re: 601XL Builder Needs a Ride601XL Builder Needs a Ride (Brett) 8. 08:06 AM - Re: Rudder lube (Brett) 9. 08:14 AM - new scratch builder in england (phil plumley) 10. 09:15 AM - Re: Rudder lube (Gary Gower) 11. 09:24 AM - Re: new scratch builder in england (Randy Stout) 12. 10:14 AM - 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (Mike Sinclair) 13. 10:26 AM - Re: new scratch builder in england (N5SL) 14. 11:16 AM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (JERICKSON03E@aol.com) 15. 12:21 PM - Re: new scratch builder in england (Graham Kirby) 16. 12:50 PM - alternative to an angle drill (Brett Hanley) 17. 01:52 PM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (Larry McFarland) 18. 04:29 PM - 701/601 912 engine lifting (RURUNY@aol.com) 19. 05:08 PM - Re: 701/601 912 engine lifting (Tony & Peggy Pierce) 20. 05:27 PM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (n801bh@netzero.com) 21. 06:49 PM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (Mike Sinclair) 22. 06:49 PM - Re: new scratch builder in england (Tim & Diane Shankland) 23. 07:30 PM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (cgalley) 24. 07:31 PM - Re: [aviation] Re: Rudder lube (Bruce Bockius) 25. 09:38 PM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (Mike Sinclair) 26. 09:38 PM - Re: 701/601 912 engine lifting (Tebenkof@aol.com) 27. 09:58 PM - Re: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) (Bryan Martin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:04:17 AM PST US From: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Tight fit angle drill? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> A simple trick that may be of help in this situation is to take a piece of wielding rod for oxy /acy and weld a drill bit on the end of each rod. This gives you a very long drill bit to chuck in your drill and allows you to bend the bit to fit into very tight quarters. Sometimes this will do holes where a 90 degree drill can't even touch. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751 President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of xl Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tight fit angle drill? --> Zenith-List message posted by: xl I bent the angles (just enough), drilled + bent them back. The angle drill head that I bought was useless. It needed too much space. I built without an angle drill. Joe E N633Z @ BFI 188 hours On Wed, 27 Apr 2005, Don Mountain wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain > I know this subject has to have been discussed in the past, but I am > new to the building of a 601 XL. And now I am on the wings, and trying > to figure out how to drill the ribs out on the main spar, where you > have to drill holes in the mounted angles, 10 mm from the spar. In the > instruction manual they show a real small angle drill in the pictures. > Where did they get it? And another question, how do I look at the > matronics list archives that I see references too sometimes? > Don 601 XL > tail, flaps and ailerons done working on wings. > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:05 AM PST US From: "Richard Cottingham" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tight fit angle drill? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Cottingham" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Mountain" Subject: Zenith-List: Tight fit angle drill? " drill holes in the mounted angles, 10 mm from the spar. In the instruction manual they show a real small angle drill in the pictures. Where did they get it?" Direct from tightfittools.com Bought one. Excellent tool Richard Perth Australia ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:33 AM PST US From: Larry McFarland Subject: Zenith-List: Rudder lube --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland Hi guys, While performing the annual inspection, I realized that beyond the spray lube on my rudder hinges and on the elevator hinge pin, there's not been any lube added since building. Is there a better recommended lube for aluminum than from the spray can? Larry McFarland - 601HDS ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:16:44 AM PST US From: "Russell Johnson" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tight fit angle drill? --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Russell Johnson" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Mountain" > now I am on the wings, and trying to figure out how to > drill the ribs out on the main spar, where you have to > drill holes in the mounted angles, 10 mm from the > spar. In the instruction manual they show a real > small angle drill in the pictures. +++++++++++++++++++ I picked up a 12" long drill bit from boeing surplus. Using a rather skinny air drill and holding the drill bit with my gloved hand, I was able to flex the bit enough to drill through the flange. Russell J. / 601-hds do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:52:27 AM PST US From: "Brett " Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL Canopy Lock --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " Yep I like KISS. I'll get a drawing to you. do not archive Thanks Brett Ray www.hog-air.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:58:35 AM PST US From: Don Mountain Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Tight fit angle drill? --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain Thanks for the info on drilling the wing spar to nose rib angles. After looking at angle drills and methods of drilling from several people, I finally ordered a right angle drill attachment and drill bit set from http://www.averytools.com, their 9885 set. It looked to be one of the most compact and higher quality sets I looked at. I was a little afraid of those with plastic in the head, and this ones looks to be all metal. And the head dimension was smaller than the plastic ones. I'll see how it works. Don 601 XL tail, ailerons, flaps done, working on wings. __________________________________ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:27 AM PST US From: "Brett " Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Builder Needs a Ride601XL Builder Needs a Ride --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " I agree. It is as easy to fly as anything out there. The only thing that caught me out the first time was the elevator. It's a bit sensitive. Just ease back and up you go. do not archive Thanks Brett Ray www.hog-air.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:41 AM PST US From: "Brett " Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder lube --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " Larry I used assembley grease then covered it with graphite which stuck to the grease. I don't know if that's any better than any thing else. But once the graphite is in there it gets in the aluminum and tends to stay. > Hi guys, > While performing the annual inspection, I realized that beyond the > spray lube on my rudder hinges and on the elevator > hinge pin, there's not been any lube added since building. Is there > a better recommended lube for aluminum than from the spray can? > > Larry McFarland - 601HDS > > Thanks Brett Ray www.hog-air.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:14:17 AM PST US From: "phil plumley" Subject: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: "phil plumley" I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy. I have decided that all of thes really would make it a better aeroplane I only have one problem. The plans from ZAC only have the basic aircraft and I cannot find anyone who has detailed information and drawings. If anyone has anything that might help me I would be forever in debt. does anyone know what length A4 and A5 Avex rivets are required. Regards Phil Plumley Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:15:37 AM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Rudder lube --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower I have used in my hinges a little bit of a special grease... I use the white one that is for the first assemble of the engines, when they are repaired, comes in a tube (like the tooth paste). Is a very good quality grease. any mayor car engine part seller will handle it. They have a good amount of antifriction, for the first revolutions of the engine before the oil is pumped in. Previous of using the grease (several years ago), I used Bardhall 2 (recomended for smokey engines). Also a great oiler. Every so often (at least ones a year) I clean the hinges with a little brush with gasoline to get the posible dirt out, dry the gasoline with the air compressor and then aply the grease. I also use this grease when I give full mantainance to my bicycle, great stuff. Saludos Gary Gower. Larry McFarland wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland Hi guys, While performing the annual inspection, I realized that beyond the spray lube on my rudder hinges and on the elevator hinge pin, there's not been any lube added since building. Is there a better recommended lube for aluminum than from the spray can? Larry McFarland - 601HDS ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:24:07 AM PST US From: "Randy Stout" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" Phil Are the people you are talking to 601 HD flyers? I have over 70 hours on mine now and would only consider the forward hinging canopy. Randy Stout n282rs"at"earthlink.net www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 > > I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by > various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the > tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy. I have decided > that all of thes really would make it a better aeroplane I only have one > problem. The plans from ZAC only have the basic aircraft and I cannot find > anyone who has detailed information and drawings. If anyone has anything > that might help me I would be forever in debt. > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:14:34 AM PST US From: Mike Sinclair Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair Need some expertise from operators of flying 701's. I talked to the FAA guy from the local FSDO and he told me that because I only did a major repair rather than a major change that I should do a Conditional Inspection and make the appropriate entries in the aircraft log before I put my plane back in the air. I received my repairmans certificate as part of my certification last June when my plane got it's airworthiness certificate. But have never been through an annual inspection before. My question is, what should be the process for the inspection? What needs to be checked on engine, avionics, airframe, etc.? And what would be the appropriate entries in the aircraft and engine logs? I read through part 91.14 of the FAR's but that is more general and left me somewhat confused as to procedure? Are there other portions of the FAR's that are appropriate? Any guidance would be appreciated, and maybe I will know then what questions I need to ask next. I would ask my tech counselor, but he is out of the country for a few days (trying to work a real job just when you need him). Mike Sinclair N701TD Almost finished with the rebuild. Finishing the last control connections, adding cotter pins & safety wires, add coolant & oil, and a light once over on the cowl with rubbing compound before I put the new Betty Boop decals on. I Plan on installing the cowl tomorrow and do weight and balance. Then weather cooperating I will be able to pull it out to do engine run ups and final tweak of prop pitch. Back in the air real soon! ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:26:45 AM PST US From: N5SL Subject: Re: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL Phil you might want to order a set of 601XL plans from ZAC. It is my understanding it is the next evolution of the 601. I've been scratch-building one for two years and have found it to be a great experience so far. I was able to fly the 601XL factory demonstrator and was impressed with it. Good Luck, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com phil plumley wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "phil plumley" I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy. I have decided that all of thes really would make it a better aeroplane I only have one problem. The plans from ZAC only have the basic aircraft and I cannot find anyone who has detailed information and drawings. If anyone has anything that might help me I would be forever in debt. does anyone know what length A4 and A5 Avex rivets are required. Regards Phil Plumley Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 11:16:19 AM PST US From: JERICKSON03E@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com In a message dated 4/28/2005 12:16:00 PM Central Daylight Time, mike.sinclair@att.net writes: Are there other portions of the FAR's that are appropriate? Any guidance would be appreciated, and maybe I will know then what questions I need to ask next. I would ask my tech counselor, See FAR Part 43, appendix B. Annual Condition Insp. Plus whatever is right for the repairs done. ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 12:21:02 PM PST US From: "Graham Kirby" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" Phil, The drawings for the forward opening canopy are avaiable on the zenith website in the builders area. For the other points I suggest you contact the PFA. I remember a long time ago reading a report that the PFA were requiring the enlarged tailplane to correct a perceived pitch instability. The extended nose was an idea put forward by a Mr Cousins/Cousens also in the UK. I think his motivation was that it would improve the CG location with the 912 with wing tanks only. I wasn't able to find any more info when I looked, but if you dig something up I'd love to get an inch or two more leg room!. Graham Kirby 601HD. ..I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy.... ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 12:50:52 PM PST US From: Brett Hanley Subject: Zenith-List: alternative to an angle drill --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brett Hanley You might try a six inch drill bit instead of an angle drill. It worked for me. Brett I know this subject has to have been discussed in the past, but I am new to the building of a 601 XL. And now I am on the wings, and trying to figure out how to drill the ribs out on the main spar, where you have to drill holes in the mounted angles, 10 mm from the ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 01:52:02 PM PST US From: Larry McFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland Mike, The annual inspection is described in FAR 2005, Appendix D of Part 43 Scope and Detail of Items to be inspected. Just got started with my first annual yesterday. I wrote up an outline using Part 43 and am adding specific criteria as applies to the plane, so that I won't miss anything on the next one. Keep a copy of this inspection and place a label in your aircraft log. Your label should say that "This aircraft NXXX has been inspected for annual or 100-hours of operation by repairman Certificate # and name to satisfy Appendix D, Part 43, FAR 2005 and is found safe for resumption of flight. Need a place for your signature and a date. That should do it. Good luck, Larry McFarland - 601HDS Mike Sinclair wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair > > I received my repairmans certificate as part of my certification last >June when my plane got it's airworthiness certificate. But have never been >through an annual inspection before. My question is, what should be the >process for the inspection? What needs to be checked on engine, avionics, >airframe, etc.? And what would be the appropriate entries in the aircraft and >engine logs? > > > > ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 04:29:48 PM PST US From: RURUNY@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: 701/601 912 engine lifting --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com I have my engine sitting on the floor under the engine hoist next to my plane. Looking at the 912 manual, it says you can use straps around the intake manifolds to lift it. I see 2 threaded holes on the top of the crankcase next to each other that could be used for lifting also. Any stories or advice on how they did it or what I should not do? Thanks again. Brian ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 05:08:16 PM PST US From: "Tony & Peggy Pierce" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701/601 912 engine lifting --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tony & Peggy Pierce" Brian... We made a bracket out of scrap that bolted into those two threaded holes. It worked well for us. Tony Pierce Do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Zenith-List: 701/601 912 engine lifting > --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com > > I have my engine sitting on the floor under the engine hoist next to my > plane. Looking at the > 912 manual, it says you can use straps around the intake manifolds to lift > it. I see 2 threaded holes on the top of the crankcase next to each other > that could be used for lifting also. > Any stories or advice on how they did it or what I should not do? Thanks > again. > > Brian > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:09 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" Need some expertise from operators of flying 701's. I talked to the FAA guy from the local FSDO and he told me that because I only did a major repair rather than a major change that I should do a Conditional Inspection and make the appropriate entries in the aircraft log before I put my plane back in the air. I received my repairmans certificate as part of my certification last June when my plane got it's airworthiness certificate. But have never been through an annual inspection before. My question is, what should be the process for the inspection? What needs to be checked on engine, avionics, airframe, etc.? And what would be the appropriate entries in the aircraft and engine logs? I read through part 91.14 of the FAR's but that is more general and left me somewhat confused as to procedure? Are there other portions of the FAR's that are appropriate? Any guidance would be appreciated, and maybe I will know then what questions I need to ask next. I would ask my tech counselor, but he is out of the country for a few days (trying to work a real job just when you need him). Mike Sinclair N701TD ................................................. On my conditional inspection I look at everything that could kill me, and while I am at it.... everything else. My 801 was in perfect shape for being one year old last week. It really doesn't take that much time to look close at the whole plane and the piece of mind is priceless Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:50 PM PST US From: Mike Sinclair Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair Thanks for the replies. I missed part 43 of the FAR's, but now that I've read it things are a lot clearer. Due to a couple of repairs that I made to the fuselage It looks like I will need to fill out FAA form 337 though. Will call the local FSDO to verify tomorrow and suspect that the form ought to be available at a local maintenance facility. Will sit down and work up a check list from appendix D. Sounded like a real good idea and will add to it as I go along. Thanks again guys. Weather looks to be a little crappy around here for the next few days, so this will give me time to do a thorough inspection (and paper work) without feeling rushed to get it in the air. Although after being grounded for seven months I am getting a little antsy to get back in the air. Mike Sinclair N701TD (my own version of the Phoenix, and I wonder how they handled the paperwork for that project?) Do Not Archive ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 06:49:50 PM PST US From: Tim & Diane Shankland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tim & Diane Shankland Phil, As has been noted by a previous post there are plans for the forward tilt canopy on the Zenith web site. I used these to construct mine. Be careful though many of the dimensions must be modified for the 601HD and also some of the dimensions appear to have been deliberately made wrong, thing like a stack of dimensions don't add up to the total. Still it gave me all I needed to make the entire assembly. Tim Shankland phil plumley wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "phil plumley" > >I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by >various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the >tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy. I have decided >that all of thes really would make it a better aeroplane I only have one >problem. The plans from ZAC only have the basic aircraft and I cannot find >anyone who has detailed information and drawings. If anyone has anything >that might help me I would be forever in debt. > >does anyone know what length A4 and A5 Avex rivets are required. > >Regards Phil Plumley > >Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! >http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 07:30:49 PM PST US From: "cgalley" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" There aren't any 337 for experimentals. 337 is one method to change or modify an CERTIFICATED airplane. Yours doesn't have a certificate. That is why your "annual" is called a conditional inspection not an annual. Your is a non-conforming aircraft and thus you don't have to maintain it to a certain set of specs. If you have any further questions. call Joe Norris at EAA. It is part of your EAA membership. email - jnorris@eaa.org Cy Galley EAA Safety Programs Editor Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Sinclair" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair > > > Thanks for the replies. I missed part 43 of the FAR's, but now that I've > read it > things are a lot clearer. Due to a couple of repairs that I made to the > fuselage > It looks like I will need to fill out FAA form 337 though. Will call the > local > FSDO to verify tomorrow and suspect that the form ought to be available at > a local > maintenance facility. Will sit down and work up a check list from appendix > D. > Sounded like a real good idea and will add to it as I go along. Thanks > again guys. > Weather looks to be a little crappy around here for the next few days, so > this > will give me time to do a thorough inspection (and paper work) without > feeling > rushed to get it in the air. Although after being grounded for seven > months I am > getting a little antsy to get back in the air. > > Mike Sinclair N701TD (my own version of the Phoenix, and I wonder how they > handled > the paperwork for that project?) > > Do Not Archive > > > ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:06 PM PST US From: "Bruce Bockius" Subject: RE: [aviation] Re: Zenith-List: Rudder lube --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bruce Bockius" Hmm, I read once not to use pencils to mark aluminum since the graphite in pencil lead is corrosive to it. Can't say I researched it however. I suppose the grease would tend to insulate the graphite from the aluminum anyways. -Bruce/601HD/TDO/450hrs ************* Bruce Bockius bruce@WhiteAntelopeSoftware.com Black Forest, CO, USA http://www.WhiteAntelopeSoftware.com/zodiac > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Brett > Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 9:06 AM > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: [aviation] Re: Zenith-List: Rudder lube > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brett " > > Larry > I used assembley grease then covered it with graphite which > stuck to the grease. I don't know if that's any better than > any thing else. But once the graphite is in there it gets in > the aluminum and tends to stay. > > > Hi guys, > > While performing the annual inspection, I realized that beyond the > > spray lube on my rudder hinges and on the elevator hinge > pin, there's > > not been any lube added since building. Is there a better > recommended > > lube for aluminum than from the spray can? > > > > Larry McFarland - 601HDS > > > > > > > Thanks > Brett Ray > www.hog-air.com > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:10 PM PST US From: Mike Sinclair Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair Thanks Cy This part of the project just got simplier. And cleared up a couple of questions I had about to interpret part 43. I was going to ask our local FAA guy about how much of this actually applied to experimental aircraft. Luckily I have a good relationship with our local FAA people so when I have a question along these lines it is real easy to give someone a call. But I do hate to be a pain sometimes, and weekends are a little hard to get ahold of someone at times. Just trying to keep it all above board, especially since where I had the accident was on the private strip of the DAR that signed off my plane. A FAA rep was the first person on the scene, as a matter of fact he was mowing around the edges at the time it happened. Think I will just continue on like I know what I'm doing and looks like I should make Oshkosh this year after all. Mike Sinclair N701TD Do Not Archive cgalley wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" > > There aren't any 337 for experimentals. 337 is one method to change or > modify an CERTIFICATED airplane. Yours doesn't have a certificate. That is > why your "annual" is called a conditional inspection not an annual. Your is > a non-conforming aircraft and thus you don't have to maintain it to a > certain set of specs. > > If you have any further questions. call Joe Norris at EAA. It is part of > your EAA membership. email - jnorris@eaa.org > > Cy Galley > EAA Safety Programs Editor > Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 09:38:10 PM PST US From: Tebenkof@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701/601 912 engine lifting --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com Brian, We also put together a simple bracket and bolted it onto the holes you are talking about. the engine balances nicely. Like everything else on the engine, the bolts are metric. I forgot that part of it and took two trip to Home Depot. Jim Greenough 701 in Portland ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 09:58:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Conditional Inspection (annual) From: Bryan Martin --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin Read part 43.1 (b). Part 43 is a good guide for your annual condition inspection but none of part 43 is mandatory. on 4/29/05 12:36 AM, Mike Sinclair at mike.sinclair@att.net wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair > > Thanks Cy > > This part of the project just got simplier. And cleared up a couple of > questions > I had about to interpret part 43. I was going to ask our local FAA guy about > how > much of this actually applied to experimental aircraft. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. do not archive.