---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/29/05:6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:26 AM - Re: new scratch builder in england (phil plumley) 2. 04:32 AM - Re: new scratch builder in england (Brad Cohen) 3. 07:15 AM - Re: new scratch builder in england (Bill Steer) 4. 09:30 AM - Re: 701/601 912 engine lifting (Leo Corbalis) 5. 11:26 AM - elevator building sequence (Brad Cohen) 6. 06:04 PM - Corvair Engines Available (gpjann@Juno.Com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:26:21 AM PST US From: "phil plumley" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: "phil plumley" Graham Many thanks for the prompt reply and the information. I shall follow these up and keep you posted of anything I find Regards Phil >From: "Graham Kirby" >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: RE: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:40:32 -0700 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" > >Phil, >The drawings for the forward opening canopy are avaiable on the zenith >website in the builders area. For the other points I suggest you contact >the PFA. I remember a long time ago reading a report that the PFA were >requiring the enlarged tailplane to correct a perceived pitch instability. > >The extended nose was an idea put forward by a Mr Cousins/Cousens also in >the UK. I think his motivation was that it would improve the CG location >with the 912 with wing tanks only. I wasn't able to find any more info >when >I looked, but if you dig something up I'd love to get an inch or two more >leg room!. > >Graham Kirby >601HD. > > >..I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by >various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the >tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy.... > > http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:32:43 AM PST US From: "Brad Cohen" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 07:31:26 -0400 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" Phil, I believe the A4 & A5 both have a standard grip length (0-6mm for A4 and 0-8mm for A5) Listening to Chris @ sun and fun I recall him saying that these are the only two rivet sizes/grip lengths required for the 601. Good Luck Brad Cohen 5-6803 N969BC (reserved) ----- Original Message ----- From: phil plumley To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 5:25 AM Subject: RE: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: "phil plumley" > Graham Many thanks for the prompt reply and the information. I shall follow these up and keep you posted of anything I find Regards Phil >From: "Graham Kirby" > >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: > >Subject: RE: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england >Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:40:32 -0700 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" > > >Phil, >The drawings for the forward opening canopy are avaiable on the zenith >website in the builders area. For the other points I suggest you contact >the PFA. I remember a long time ago reading a report that the PFA were >requiring the enlarged tailplane to correct a perceived pitch instability. > >The extended nose was an idea put forward by a Mr Cousins/Cousens also in >the UK. I think his motivation was that it would improve the CG location >with the 912 with wing tanks only. I wasn't able to find any more info >when >I looked, but if you dig something up I'd love to get an inch or two more >leg room!. > >Graham Kirby >601HD. > > >..I have just started to build a 601HD from plans and have been told by >various people that I should extend the nose, increase the span pf the >tailplane ( stabiliser ) and go for a forward opening canopy.... > > http://toolbar.msn.co.uk/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:15:00 AM PST US From: "Bill Steer" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: new scratch builder in england --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" I used the leading edge fuel tanks in my 601HD. In that situation, there are several A6 rivets also required, since some of the solid rivets must be drilled out and replaced in the wing spar. ZAC supplied those A6 rivets in my kit, and I have several left over. Bill > I believe the A4 & A5 both have a standard grip length (0-6mm for A4 and 0-8mm for A5) > Listening to Chris @ sun and fun I recall him saying that these are the only two rivet sizes/grip lengths required for the 601. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:30:41 AM PST US From: "Leo Corbalis" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701/601 912 engine lifting --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" Rope on the manifolds works fine. Also two large sons-in-law are a suitable substitute, the 912 isn't that heavy. Leo Corbalis do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Zenith-List: 701/601 912 engine lifting > --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com > > I have my engine sitting on the floor under the engine hoist next to my > plane. Looking at the > 912 manual, it says you can use straps around the intake manifolds to lift > it. I see 2 threaded holes on the top of the crankcase next to each other > that could be used for lifting also. > Any stories or advice on how they did it or what I should not do? Thanks > again. > > Brian > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:48 AM PST US From: "Brad Cohen" Subject: Zenith-List: elevator building sequence Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:26:02 -0400 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" Hey guys (and gals?) I am assembling the elevator and the photo assembly guide is confusing me on the sequence. as I understand it I go ahead and rivet the center channel together, then rivet the bottom of the rib flanges to the skin (well, the skin to the flanges to be exact) then leave the top completely cleco'd until the hinge, elevator horn, etc. is installed. That would make closing the top of the elevator one of the last functions. is this how anyone else has completed it? next question; I have about 2-3mm of overhang on the top of the elevator skin. I assume I need to trim this back flush with the LE of the elevator for appropriate edge distance when it comes time to install the piano hinge? Thanks Brad Cohen 6-5803 hacking away at the elevator ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:56 PM PST US corvaircraft@mylist.net Subject: Zenith-List: Corvair Engines Available From: gpjann@Juno.Com --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com I visited Ken's Corvair Shop this week and found that he has engines and parts for sale. Ken is a car enthusiast and specializes in Corvairs. Ken has been gathering, rebuilding, and disassembling Corvairs for many years and has a lot of parts and engines for sale. I spent some time with Ken going over the engines and parts we use in building experimental aircraft engines. He knows what engines, serial numbers, and parts we use and said he will replace any part which did not meet the buyers satisfaction. Also his engines will include good core parts, harmonic balancers, etc. I reviewed his storage of parts and found that he has a number of standard sized cranks. He may be able to crate engines for shipping, but will charge for crateing and shipping. Ken's willingness to sell us the right configuration is a big plus, and makes shopping for an engine easier, quicker, and we should realize a savings. I'm only a customer of Ken and am not realizing any payment or kickback, only wish to pass this information on to AirVair drivers. Ken's Corvair Shop Riverdale, Ga. 770-997-4044 kenvair@comcast.net GPJ Zodiac 601HDS Corvair 100HP N4399