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Fri 05/06/05


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 04:06 AM - Re: Updated Drawings (Ozarkseller2@AOL.COM)
     2. 08:33 AM - Re: Updated Drawings (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
     3. 08:48 AM - Re: Updated Drawings (Gary Gower)
     4. 09:55 AM - Re: Updated Drawings (Duane)
     5. 01:19 PM - Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6 (GERUDBERG@AOL.COM)
     6. 01:57 PM - how much twist? (Brad Cohen)
     7. 02:58 PM - Re: Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6 (Cdngoose)
     8. 03:32 PM - Re: how much twist? (Carlos Sa)
     9. 04:04 PM - Re: Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6 (Rico Voss)
    10. 05:15 PM - Re: Updated Drawings (Larry Martin)
    11. 05:26 PM - Engine (Larry Martin)
    12. 06:50 PM - Re: how much twist? (Gary Gower)
    13. 09:03 PM - Re: how much twist? (Graham Kirby)
    14. 10:00 PM - N601RT returns to the sky! (repair from gear failure info) (royt.or@netzero.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:06:36 AM PST US
    From: Ozarkseller2@AOL.COM
    Subject: Re: Updated Drawings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ozarkseller2@aol.com In a message dated 5/5/2005 8:53:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, lrm@isp.com writes: > One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is that even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions to build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair something of the plane. That may have been ZAC policy at one time but recently is definitely not. I have purchased nearly every partial kit offered for a 601XL with the $total paid being far in excess of the complete kit price and was required to pay the extra for plans and drawings. None of the partial kits included plans.


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    Time: 08:33:12 AM PST US
    From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Updated Drawings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Mike, how DARE you even consider the possibility that something from Mexico, MO could possibly be unclear, incomplete or incorrect !!! Why,, Angels in Heaven fly on wings of feathers and of course ZAC designed and created the planes with wings we build to fly so ZAC and their works must be tied pretty close to that of the All Mighty ( Is All Mighty one word or two ?) Yes, this weird cult like protection Teflon surrounding our Designer and Manufacturer's product is puzzling. Wonder what causes it ? All in jest with the rest, Bill


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    Time: 08:48:22 AM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Updated Drawings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Larry, You didnt give them the 380.00, is part of the cost of the kit (and sets of partial kits). We all have a bussiness where we make a living, or work(ed) for one... Nothing is "free", if you have to give away something, the cost of that "something" has to be hiden inside the price of the other things you buy... Modern companys, to survive, work on a tight budget, they lower the profit amount, specting to sell enough product to add all the little profits to pay the bills and make a living. I remember the big stores with huge advertisements that "give" you a (hard to sell) iron or a cheap mivrowave FREE, if you buy the big new color tv set... Just doing a little of search and you find the same TV in another store at a lower price (without he iron or micro cost "added")... I you needed a new iron or Micro, was ok. If dont just buy the TV set. Can be advertised In other words: Just add the price of the plans (380.00) to the kit and to all of the partial kits price in the info list... Then offer a "bonus": "When you buy a "second" partial kit and all of the rest of them, just mention your serial number and you get a "special discount" of 380.00 in each of them". It depends what makes the costumer happy (some just have to complain always). We all know that is dificult to make money in aviation, we will buy a kit, or maybe two in our aviation life (compulsive builders, maybe more), so the cost of the plans related to the cost of the kit is nothing... but in case of the sellers, in 100 kits that will be giving away 38,000.00 of their hard erned money. Remember: The most dangerous part of aviation is starving to dead :-) :-) Saludos Gary Gower --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" Yep, I like them too, obviously not as much as you. You said "One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is that even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions to build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair something of the plane." Not quite, you have to give them another $380 to get the full plans if you don't buy the entire kit. You can buy any one's plans for that. I bought every thing from them except the wings and they wouldn't come off that $380. I almost didn't buy because of that, just principal. I figured if I spent thousands of dollars with them the least they could do was give me the instructions for the parts I was buying, take the wing part out, but they wouldn't. That still hacks me off. If they gave you the entire plans when you bought a partial kit, then they owe me a refund. Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Gower" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Updated Drawings > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > Mike, > > I don't know why you are so concerned about the structural integrity of the Zenith aircraft... > > Most of the updates by ZAC are made looking for a better airplane and or better understood construction instructions, remember that Mr Chris Heintz has more than 30 years of experience only in the Zenith Aircraft designing, is something that we should appreciate, is not easy to find in any kit or plans build arplane, to have such a great person and his team at ZAC, practically over our shoulder in all the building process, Been there done that. > > One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is that even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions to build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair something of the plane. > This GREAT bonus is difficult, if not impossible, to find in any other kit plane, we have some rebuilding experience here in the list... > Other kit airplanes just get trashed because of the expensive it to get the factory parts to rebuild (if the factory is still in bussiness), even in minor incidents, if the factory is gone you are on your own without specific plans. > > Before getting involved with building a ZAC Kit, we (my Father, Brother and Myself) made our homework with several kits and plans built airplanes. The ZAC planes won hands off, all incidents/accidents we could find were pilot error or weather (well is pilot error also). > > Another point that I don't want to forget is the safe and easy the ZAC aircraft are to fly. I think that Mr. Heintz thought on all of us (pilots with less than 35 - 50 hours a year experience) when designing his airplanes, The idea is to enjoy the flight. Sure enough, the planes are not "fast", no Reno winners, but we are not also Reno pilots :-) > > The old people here say that men only fear the unknown, once they know the facts they build confidence. > > Now down off my soap box. > > Saludos > Gary Gower. > > "Fun flying begins the moment the wheels leave the strip. Not thinking how fast we can get there... Where? Who cares. Gary Gower." > > > Mike Fortunato wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fortunato > > > Any other problems I need to be aware of while > making > > the switch to the updated plans? > > You'll likely have a tough time getting an answer to > that one. A lot depends on which version of the plans > you have now, but there are LOTS of revisions. I asked > the same question to ZAC, but never got a reply. My > main concern was which items are crucial to the safety > of the airframe. It would be great if they would > handle updates much like software, where some are > "critical". If you get an answer to that question, > please post the reply. Thanks! > > Mike Fortunato > 601XL > ---------------------------------


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    Time: 09:55:52 AM PST US
    From: Duane <duane@mo-net.com>
    Subject: Re: Updated Drawings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Duane <duane@mo-net.com> I bought the complete kit, as separate components wing kit. tail kit, fuselage kit, et. as I needed them, and I had to buy my plans separate full price no discount. Duane Gary Gower wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> > > Larry, > > You didnt give them the 380.00, is part of the cost of the kit (and sets of partial kits). > > We all have a bussiness where we make a living, or work(ed) for one... > Nothing is "free", if you have to give away something, the cost of that "something" has to be hiden inside the price of the other things you buy... > Modern companys, to survive, work on a tight budget, they lower the profit amount, specting to sell enough product to add all the little profits to pay the bills and make a living. > > I remember the big stores with huge advertisements that "give" you a (hard to sell) iron or a cheap mivrowave FREE, if you buy the big new color tv set... > Just doing a little of search and you find the same TV in another store at a lower price (without he iron or micro cost "added")... I you needed a new iron or Micro, was ok. If dont just buy the TV set. > > Can be advertised In other words: Just add the price of the plans (380.00) to the kit and to all of the partial kits price in the info list... > Then offer a "bonus": "When you buy a "second" partial kit and all of the rest of them, just mention your serial number and you get a "special discount" of 380.00 in each of them". > It depends what makes the costumer happy (some just have to complain always). > > We all know that is dificult to make money in aviation, we will buy a kit, or maybe two in our aviation life (compulsive builders, maybe more), so the cost of the plans related to the cost of the kit is nothing... but in case of the sellers, in 100 kits that will be giving away 38,000.00 of their hard erned money. > > Remember: The most dangerous part of aviation is starving to dead :-) :-) > > Saludos > Gary Gower > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" > > Yep, I like them too, obviously not as much as you. > > You said "One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is > that even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions > to build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair > something of the plane." > > Not quite, you have to give them another $380 to get the full plans if you > don't buy the entire kit. You can buy any one's plans for that. I bought > every thing from them except the wings and they wouldn't come off that $380. > I almost didn't buy because of that, just principal. I figured if I spent > thousands of dollars with them the least they could do was give me the > instructions for the parts I was buying, take the wing part out, but they > wouldn't. That still hacks me off. > > If they gave you the entire plans when you bought a partial kit, then they > owe me a refund. > > Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Gower" > To: > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Updated Drawings > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > > > Mike, > > > > I don't know why you are so concerned about the structural integrity of > the Zenith aircraft... > > > > Most of the updates by ZAC are made looking for a better airplane and or > better understood construction instructions, remember that Mr Chris Heintz > has more than 30 years of experience only in the Zenith Aircraft designing, > is something that we should appreciate, is not easy to find in any kit or > plans build arplane, to have such a great person and his team at ZAC, > practically over our shoulder in all the building process, Been there done > that. > > > > One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is that > even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions to > build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair something > of the plane. > > This GREAT bonus is difficult, if not impossible, to find in any other kit > plane, we have some rebuilding experience here in the list... > > Other kit airplanes just get trashed because of the expensive it to get > the factory parts to rebuild (if the factory is still in bussiness), even in > minor incidents, if the factory is gone you are on your own without specific > plans. > > > > Before getting involved with building a ZAC Kit, we (my Father, Brother > and Myself) made our homework with several kits and plans built airplanes. > The ZAC planes won hands off, all incidents/accidents we could find were > pilot error or weather (well is pilot error also). > > > > Another point that I don't want to forget is the safe and easy the ZAC > aircraft are to fly. I think that Mr. Heintz thought on all of us (pilots > with less than 35 - 50 hours a year experience) when designing his > airplanes, The idea is to enjoy the flight. Sure enough, the planes are > not "fast", no Reno winners, but we are not also Reno pilots :-) > > > > The old people here say that men only fear the unknown, once they know > the facts they build confidence. > > > > Now down off my soap box. > > > > Saludos > > Gary Gower. > > > > "Fun flying begins the moment the wheels leave the strip. Not thinking > how fast we can get there... Where? Who cares. Gary Gower." > > > > > > Mike Fortunato wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fortunato > > > > > Any other problems I need to be aware of while > > making > > > the switch to the updated plans? > > > > You'll likely have a tough time getting an answer to > > that one. A lot depends on which version of the plans > > you have now, but there are LOTS of revisions. I asked > > the same question to ZAC, but never got a reply. My > > main concern was which items are crucial to the safety > > of the airframe. It would be great if they would > > handle updates much like software, where some are > > "critical". If you get an answer to that question, > > please post the reply. Thanks! > > > > Mike Fortunato > > 601XL > > > > > --------------------------------- >


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    Time: 01:19:38 PM PST US
    From: GERUDBERG@AOL.COM
    Subject: Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: GERUDBERG@aol.com In constructing a Zenith 601 XL without aux tanks, is there any problem with moving nose rib 6 from adjacency to nose rib 5 to being in line with rear rib 7? It looks like the upside is improved stability of the leading edge contour, but is there any known downside? George Rudberg Aircraft S/N 5573


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    Time: 01:57:47 PM PST US
    From: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp@msn.com>
    Subject: how much twist?
    Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 6 May 2005 16:56:54 -0400 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp@msn.com> O.K. so my stabilizer is twisted.... I realize that I am not building the next generation of interceptor, but being that this is my first homebuilt I wanted some opinions on how much twist is "acceptable". I was leveling the stab to attach the elevator piano hinge and I found some twist, I am not an engineer but will try to describe it as clear as I can. With the stab on a hard, level surface (that garage floor and 2x2 steel beams) and with the rear spar flat on said beam, the starboard leading edge, just in front of the front attach point is elevated 7mm from the steel beam. when this corner is held down the port trailing edge is elevated about the same amount. I am not sure of the significance of this. I am inclined to say that it's acceptable, but the anal retentive part of me, the part that wanted to throw away the rudder because I had two rivets within the 10mm margin, says that this needs to be corrected.. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Brad Cohen N969BC (reserved) Fretting over the stabilizer


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    Time: 02:58:15 PM PST US
    From: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca>
    Subject: Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cdngoose" <601xl@sympatico.ca> The 601XL that Art Mitchell had at Flypass had done the same thing to the nose rib. The only down side is that if you decide later on that you would like to install the 2nd set of tanks you will have unwanted holes in your nose skin. On the plus side if you know for a fact that you will never install the second set of tanks it really does look nice having the nose rib in line with the rear rib. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751 President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GERUDBERG@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6 --> Zenith-List message posted by: GERUDBERG@aol.com In constructing a Zenith 601 XL without aux tanks, is there any problem with moving nose rib 6 from adjacency to nose rib 5 to being in line with rear rib 7? It looks like the upside is improved stability of the leading edge contour, but is there any known downside? George Rudberg Aircraft S/N 5573


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    Time: 03:32:51 PM PST US
    From: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: how much twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com> Brad, I'd redo the garage floor. Or call ZAC and ask. Whatever is cheaper. Carlos (tons of rejected parts laying around. might be able to build three centre spars, four rudders, etc.) do not archive > I am not sure of the significance of this. I am inclined to say that it's acceptable, but the > anal retentive part of me, the part that wanted to throw away the rudder because I had two > rivets within the 10mm margin, says that this needs to be corrected.. > > Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. > > > Brad Cohen > N969BC (reserved) > Fretting over the stabilizer


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    Time: 04:04:18 PM PST US
    From: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Zenith 601XL: Moving Nose Rib 6
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com> > any problem with > moving nose rib 6 from adjacency to nose rib 5 to being > in line with rear rib > 7? > but is there any known downside? > > George Rudberg > Aircraft S/N 5573 > George-- Made perfect sense to me... I did the same thing. No downside that I could see, other than no AUX fuel tank. I'll be planning around 4 hours airtime. --Rico, XL 4711 __________________________________ http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail


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    Time: 05:15:28 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
    Subject: Re: Updated Drawings
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com> I just know that if I but anything that has to be put together, I expect to have instructions with it and not be told, "oh, you want instructions, that will be $380 more". Give me a break. What are you smoking? or drinking? Don't tell me I didn't give them $380, I got the receipt. They should have given me the instructions for what I bought as part of the price, not an additional line item, after the fact. It's sorta like they are punishing me for not buying the whole thing. I agree everyone has to make a living, just don't say, "oh by the way you need instructions, that will be another $380", just build it into the price in the first place. Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Gower" <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Updated Drawings > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> > > Larry, > > You didnt give them the 380.00, is part of the cost of the kit (and sets of partial kits). > > We all have a bussiness where we make a living, or work(ed) for one... > Nothing is "free", if you have to give away something, the cost of that "something" has to be hiden inside the price of the other things you buy... > Modern companys, to survive, work on a tight budget, they lower the profit amount, specting to sell enough product to add all the little profits to pay the bills and make a living. > > I remember the big stores with huge advertisements that "give" you a (hard to sell) iron or a cheap mivrowave FREE, if you buy the big new color tv set... > Just doing a little of search and you find the same TV in another store at a lower price (without he iron or micro cost "added")... I you needed a new iron or Micro, was ok. If dont just buy the TV set. > > Can be advertised In other words: Just add the price of the plans (380.00) to the kit and to all of the partial kits price in the info list... > Then offer a "bonus": "When you buy a "second" partial kit and all of the rest of them, just mention your serial number and you get a "special discount" of 380.00 in each of them". > It depends what makes the costumer happy (some just have to complain always). > > We all know that is dificult to make money in aviation, we will buy a kit, or maybe two in our aviation life (compulsive builders, maybe more), so the cost of the plans related to the cost of the kit is nothing... but in case of the sellers, in 100 kits that will be giving away 38,000.00 of their hard erned money. > > Remember: The most dangerous part of aviation is starving to dead :-) :-) > > Saludos > Gary Gower > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" > > Yep, I like them too, obviously not as much as you. > > You said "One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is > that even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions > to build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair > something of the plane." > > Not quite, you have to give them another $380 to get the full plans if you > don't buy the entire kit. You can buy any one's plans for that. I bought > every thing from them except the wings and they wouldn't come off that $380. > I almost didn't buy because of that, just principal. I figured if I spent > thousands of dollars with them the least they could do was give me the > instructions for the parts I was buying, take the wing part out, but they > wouldn't. That still hacks me off. > > If they gave you the entire plans when you bought a partial kit, then they > owe me a refund. > > Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Gower" > To: > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Updated Drawings > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > > > Mike, > > > > I don't know why you are so concerned about the structural integrity of > the Zenith aircraft... > > > > Most of the updates by ZAC are made looking for a better airplane and or > better understood construction instructions, remember that Mr Chris Heintz > has more than 30 years of experience only in the Zenith Aircraft designing, > is something that we should appreciate, is not easy to find in any kit or > plans build arplane, to have such a great person and his team at ZAC, > practically over our shoulder in all the building process, Been there done > that. > > > > One of the most important points in favor of the ZAC airplanes is that > even if you buy only a partial kit, you get FULL plans and instructions to > build any part or the whole plane if you mess up or need to repair something > of the plane. > > This GREAT bonus is difficult, if not impossible, to find in any other kit > plane, we have some rebuilding experience here in the list... > > Other kit airplanes just get trashed because of the expensive it to get > the factory parts to rebuild (if the factory is still in bussiness), even in > minor incidents, if the factory is gone you are on your own without specific > plans. > > > > Before getting involved with building a ZAC Kit, we (my Father, Brother > and Myself) made our homework with several kits and plans built airplanes. > The ZAC planes won hands off, all incidents/accidents we could find were > pilot error or weather (well is pilot error also). > > > > Another point that I don't want to forget is the safe and easy the ZAC > aircraft are to fly. I think that Mr. Heintz thought on all of us (pilots > with less than 35 - 50 hours a year experience) when designing his > airplanes, The idea is to enjoy the flight. Sure enough, the planes are > not "fast", no Reno winners, but we are not also Reno pilots :-) > > > > The old people here say that men only fear the unknown, once they know > the facts they build confidence. > > > > Now down off my soap box. > > > > Saludos > > Gary Gower. > > > > "Fun flying begins the moment the wheels leave the strip. Not thinking > how fast we can get there... Where? Who cares. Gary Gower." > > > > > > Mike Fortunato wrote: > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fortunato > > > > > Any other problems I need to be aware of while > > making > > > the switch to the updated plans? > > > > You'll likely have a tough time getting an answer to > > that one. A lot depends on which version of the plans > > you have now, but there are LOTS of revisions. I asked > > the same question to ZAC, but never got a reply. My > > main concern was which items are crucial to the safety > > of the airframe. It would be great if they would > > handle updates much like software, where some are > > "critical". If you get an answer to that question, > > please post the reply. Thanks! > > > > Mike Fortunato > > 601XL > > > > > --------------------------------- > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > > -- Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.


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    Time: 05:26:38 PM PST US
    From: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
    Subject: Engine
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com> Check out my site, I am trying to give my engine away. Larry, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.


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    Time: 06:50:56 PM PST US
    From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: how much twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> Hello Brad, Just to make the "twist" less big, Take in account that half of this twist will finally be in each side of the stabilizer: Then just only 3.5 mm for each end... is acceptable for me. Is more important to have the stabilizer perfectly level with your fuselage, In the 701 with the aft support of wing spars, if its a XL, might be a diferent reference,. Saludos Gary Gower Brad Cohen <bradfnp@msn.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" O.K. so my stabilizer is twisted.... I realize that I am not building the next generation of interceptor, but being that this is my first homebuilt I wanted some opinions on how much twist is "acceptable". I was leveling the stab to attach the elevator piano hinge and I found some twist, I am not an engineer but will try to describe it as clear as I can. With the stab on a hard, level surface (that garage floor and 2x2 steel beams) and with the rear spar flat on said beam, the starboard leading edge, just in front of the front attach point is elevated 7mm from the steel beam. when this corner is held down the port trailing edge is elevated about the same amount. I am not sure of the significance of this. I am inclined to say that it's acceptable, but the anal retentive part of me, the part that wanted to throw away the rudder because I had two rivets within the 10mm margin, says that this needs to be corrected.. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Brad Cohen N969BC (reserved) Fretting over the stabilizer --------------------------------- Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour


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    Time: 09:03:41 PM PST US
    From: "Graham Kirby" <gkirby@yahoo.com>
    Subject: how much twist?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" <gkirby@yahoo.com> Brad, I wonder if the twist was a subliminal design improvement. - An engine torque compensation feature? Graham Kirby 601HD DO NOT ARCHIVE. O.K. so my stabilizer is twisted....


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    Time: 10:00:44 PM PST US
    From: "royt.or@netzero.com" <royt.or@netzero.com>
    Subject: N601RT returns to the sky! (repair from gear failure info)
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "royt.or@netzero.com" <royt.or@netzero.com> I made the following entry in my airframe log book today: Replaced all three gear legs, bungies, and stop plates with new components from Zenith. New gear legs and lower bearing supports were industrial chrome plated. Floating nut plates mounted on aluminum strip were used for bolts securing lower bearing supports. Nyoil bearing from Zenith were installed for top and bottom each gear leg. The nose gear Nyoil bearings were installed per 601XL plans. The main gear bearings were installed under the original 601HDS bearings. Greased all gear leg bearing surfaces. Replaced left brake caliper and the lower 12 inches of brake line. Removed damaged area of left bottom wing skin and replaced with new skin. Replaced left wing root fairing and riblett. Removed step fairing, damaged steps, installed new steps and reinstalled step fairing. Installed new tires on all three wheels. Installed new brake shoes on both wheels. Aircraft repairs completed; aircraft is airworthy and ready to return to service. The new gear is more compliant, "softer" over bumps than my original installation. I expect that powder coating on my original gear legs and having brakes that really work both contributed to my original failure. I think the powder coating increased the friction between the gear legs and the aluminum bearings. Search the archives for "N601RT & defective" for more information of original failure. Zenith changed the thickness of the 2"x2" plate at the end of the gear leg in version 4 of the 601HD/601HDS plans. The new plate is 3/16" thick. My original plates were 1/8" thick. I identified two or three other planes that had similar failures to mine. I was happy with the way Zenith handled getting me replacement parts. Regards, Roy N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 319.4hrs, 416 landings




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