---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 05/09/05:23 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:10 AM - Re: CH 640 For Sale price reduced (Scott Moser) 2. 06:08 AM - Re: 601 XL Spar inserts/Spar jig assembly (Al Young) 3. 06:26 AM - Re: Updated Drawings (Paul Tipton) 4. 06:27 AM - Re: 701 oil can X inst (Larry Martin) 5. 06:27 AM - 601 Paint Scheme Template (Bob Miller) 6. 06:55 AM - Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (Hal Rozema) 7. 07:56 AM - Re: N601RT returns to the sky! (repair from gear failure info) (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)) 8. 02:30 PM - Stabilizer twist (Brad Cohen) 9. 03:16 PM - Re: N701TD back in the air again (briefly) IMPORTANT. (Kelly Meiste) 10. 05:37 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (wscribb) 11. 06:35 PM - Re: N701TD back in the air again (briefly) IMPORTANT. (Gary Gower) 12. 06:40 PM - Re: Paint Scheme Template (Bob Miller) 13. 06:40 PM - Re: Paint Scheme Template (Bob Miller) 14. 06:48 PM - Fw: ref:Val Com TSO VHF Trasnceiver (Bob Miller) 15. 07:21 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (Larry Martin) 16. 07:51 PM - Another 601 Takes Off (john H) 17. 08:07 PM - Re: N701TD back in the air again (briefly) IMPORTANT. (Gary Gower) 18. 08:25 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (gary) 19. 08:37 PM - N601Z Flight Report (Leo Gates) 20. 08:48 PM - Re: Another 601 Takes Off (Leo Gates) 21. 09:18 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (Hal Rozema) 22. 09:41 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (Hal Rozema) 23. 11:35 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator (NYTerminat@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:10:47 AM PST US From: Scott Moser Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH 640 For Sale price reduced --> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott Moser >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Scott Moser >> >> Price reduced for quick sale!!!!! >> To all Interested parties, >> >> I have decided to sell my Zodiac CH 640 airplane as it is. I have come >> to the realization that my time and finances are limited as to the >> projects >> I choose. I currently own and fly a Cessna 172I and can not afford to >> build >> and maintain the two aircraft. I have long range fuel tanks (2) -23 US >> Gallons. The Kit consist of all airframe componets down to the tires >> and >> seatbelts etc,,,. My cost are: $24,800.00 for complete kit including >> fuel >> systems; Additional cost I paid are $1,736.00 sales tax; $900.00 long >> range fuel tanks; $2,000.00 tail components factory built ; $1,000.00 >> upgraded fueline (stratoflex SS braided hoses and fittings) plus some >> tools. >> All of these items total $30,436.00. I am asking for the cost of the kit >> only $21,000.00. Buyer must arrange to pickup or ship. This airplane is >> an >> great cross country IFR capable platform. Top Speed with an O-360 is >> 167mph; Cruise is 154 mph according to Zenair LTD in Midland Ontario. >> Stall >> is 30mph with full flaps ! >> and 40 mph no flaps >> The aircraft is in the following status: >> 1) The right wing is about 80% complete with the aileron bellcrank >> assembly, control rod and the cables installed.Both left and right >> ailerons >> are assembled but not installed. >> 2) The horizontalstabilizer/elevator and /vertical fin/rudder are >> factory built and complete with wiring installed. >> Digital pics can be sent to anyone wishing to have them. >> >> Regards To All, >> >> Scott Moser >> 6 Tarah Lane >> Pisgah Forest, NC 28768 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:08:05 AM PST US From: "Al Young" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 XL Spar inserts/Spar jig assembly --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" Tom- I tried to contact you off list but mail wasn't delivered. So- I do have a set of XL spar inserts/ jig assembly I'll sell. Where do you live? Regards, Al Young- Ready for first flight. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:26:06 AM PST US From: "Paul Tipton" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Updated Drawings --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Tipton" Thank you Gary! It could not have been said better. Can't help but smile everytime the wheels leave the ground. 37 hours and counting. Paul Tipton CH701 - 321PT ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:31 AM PST US From: "Larry Martin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 oil can X inst --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" No you don't need them on the top and bottom, there are more cross "L" angles used on the top and bottom. Check out my page on it and you can see the pictures, http://www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/xbraces.html. Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Zenith-List: 701 oil can X inst > --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com > > I'm at the point of installing the std L X's on the rear fuselage side panels. > > Question is do the top & bottom panels need the X'x as well? > > Just wondering what other 701 builders have found. > > Jerry > > > -- > > -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:27:53 AM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Zenith-List: 601 Paint Scheme Template --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Fred, I'll send you a template I made for my 601HD. If anybody else wants a copy just contact me offline and I'll get it in the wire. Bob Miller ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:33 AM PST US From: Hal Rozema Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema Can anyone give me a lead on locating a flap actuator for the 701 flap setup? Skyshops is not acceptable due to 3 month delivery Hal Rozema ThePlaaneFolks.Net N701PF @ DVT Phoenix, AZ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:56:44 AM PST US Subject: RE: Zenith-List: N601RT returns to the sky! (repair from gear failure info) From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" Thanks for the heads up Roy. After your mishap I removed my main gear leg pants and looked for cracks...I didn't see any obvious ones but then again I haven't completely stripped off all the crud and closely inspected with a mirror yet...I was thinking of buying a crack detection kit and testing for sure. $25 sounds like cheap insurance..:) Glad your back in the air. Frank -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of royt.or@netzero.com Subject: Zenith-List: N601RT returns to the sky! (repair from gear failure info) --> Zenith-List message posted by: "royt.or@netzero.com" --> I made the following entry in my airframe log book today: Replaced all three gear legs, bungies, and stop plates with new components from Zenith. New gear legs and lower bearing supports were industrial chrome plated. Floating nut plates mounted on aluminum strip were used for bolts securing lower bearing supports. Nyoil bearing from Zenith were installed for top and bottom each gear leg. The nose gear Nyoil bearings were installed per 601XL plans. The main gear bearings were installed under the original 601HDS bearings. Greased all gear leg bearing surfaces. Replaced left brake caliper and the lower 12 inches of brake line. Removed damaged area of left bottom wing skin and replaced with new skin. Replaced left wing root fairing and riblett. Removed step fairing, damaged steps, installed new steps and reinstalled step fairing. Installed new tires on all three wheels. Installed new brake shoes on both wheels. Aircraft repairs completed; aircraft is airworthy and ready to return to service. The new gear is more compliant, "softer" over bumps than my original installation. I expect that powder coating on my original gear legs and having brakes that really work both contributed to my original failure. I think the powder coating increased the friction between the gear legs and the aluminum bearings. Search the archives for "N601RT & defective" for more information of original failure. Zenith changed the thickness of the 2"x2" plate at the end of the gear leg in version 4 of the 601HD/601HDS plans. The new plate is 3/16" thick. My original plates were 1/8" thick. I identified two or three other planes that had similar failures to mine. I was happy with the way Zenith handled getting me replacement parts. Regards, Roy N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped, 319.4hrs, 416 landings ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:30:26 PM PST US From: "Brad Cohen" Subject: Zenith-List: Stabilizer twist Seal-Send-Time: Mon, 9 May 2005 17:29:13 -0400 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" Just a follow-up, After much fretting over the weekend about the twist in my stabilzer (7mm from left rear to right leading edge) and multiple phone calls to local resources, I was able to reduce the twist to ~2mm, which I can certainly live with. (I removed all the clecos, weighted both ends of the stab with padded weights then cleco'd every hole starting from the twisted end. after a few tense moments, the weights were removed and only minimal twist was found) So I just wanted to thank everyone for suggestions and encouragement (especially the suggestion to have my contractor come out and repour the garage floor LEVEL) Brad Cohen 6-5803 N969BC (reserved) moving on to the elevator ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 03:16:20 PM PST US From: "Kelly Meiste" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N701TD back in the air again (briefly) IMPORTANT. --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" > People often ask: when does gas come out of the tube? I say that I have > only heard that IF the float chamber would overflow (in case the float > wont > float and needle stays open) would there ever be dripping gas. You have > confirmed that this is not a common situation. I wonder if gas has EVER > exited out this tube in their actual experience (please come forward with > your experience). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yup it sure does, I've had it happen to me! Luckily it happened on the ground so I got to witness the stream of fuel running out those little tubes first hand, and it didn't stop until I turned off the engine. This didn't happen on my 601 but on my ultralight which was running a Rotax 503 with the dual Bing 54 carbs. Those carbs use a similar float needle shut off arrangement as our altitude adjusting carbs, so I believe it could happen on a 601 as well. The engine had sat idle for a time and may have gotten some dirt in the fuel system causing the float shut off valve to stick open. Then when I started the engine fuel ran freely from both carb overflow tubes. Not just a drip, drip, drip, but a stream as if one were siphoning a fuel can with them. And as I said the stream of fuel only stopped once I turned off the engine. So to this day I'm just a little leery of having those overflow tubes just hanging there over top my exhaust system. Kelly Meiste 601 HD Stratus 115 hours ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:37:30 PM PST US From: "wscribb" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "wscribb" Hal, Check out Larry Martin's web site, http://www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/electricflaps.html. Bill 601XL Getting closer -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hal Rozema Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema Can anyone give me a lead on locating a flap actuator for the 701 flap setup? Skyshops is not acceptable due to 3 month delivery Hal Rozema ThePlaaneFolks.Net N701PF @ DVT Phoenix, AZ ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:06 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N701TD back in the air again (briefly) IMPORTANT. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower This are the facts I have experienced and saw myself (and never witnessed r had a problem of gas driping): Yes, some did modified the tubes, only one serious problem: about 6 years ago a pilot in a Rans, from a club near here, was fataly injured... he panic and blow his dificult emergency landing when he lost power. 2 years later (in the Rotax Seminar) we found out by photos that he modified the tubes (longer ones). Engine on top, had no cowling. Several aborted or landed without problem, about 6 minor incindents in 8 years with few landing gears bent and fortunate minor bruises... Everything was blamed, from our altitude, to gasoline, passing trough brands of oil, spark plugs, even the Rotax factory, you name it... "Those tubes have to be longer!! They are over the mufflers" lots of us said... At that time I had a 503 (2 cycle) so my plane was not in danger :-) Until the simple tubes where insolated (4 years ago) in the first visit/Seminar from Kodiak Representatives. Fortunate, We were the club with more Rotax engines in Mexico and the only one with a dedicated mechanic for all the fleet, so they wanted to know us, What a party!... Since then every other year we have a Rotax Seminar for all pilots that want to assist, There come pilots from several states and clubs from Mexico, the seminars are based in Preventive and Corrective Mantainance. I have taken one each of them: two and 4 cycle engines. This is my thought. The tubes are continuty of the carburator bowl vent, this is a fact. They are there there just in case the gasoline will overflow... When? when the needle will not close. IF We filter the gasoline with a Chamois or prefiltering the gas before filling the tank, then an inline filter and then a gascolator (or visceversa), and we drain daily and change the filters over hours mantainance... Posibilties of having a strange particle in the needle? As close to remote as impossible. Driping with diferent altitudes, never in our airplanes... We fly at all the altitudes possible because or our flying area: We are at 5,000 ft ASL. the Pacific coast (Sea Level) is about 1:30 hrs flying from our aerodrome. we go there several times a year, at least 10 planes/month or more (if mathematically can be said like this :-), some have summer house there... To get to the coast from here, we need to climb over the Sierra pass, up to 10,500 ft ASL , never have noticed (non of us) any strange smell or any minimal missfire... Just like swiss watches. The only time we "hear" all the possible strange noises our airplanes can make, is once a year when we go to the BAJA... We fly about 30 to 80 minutes (depending the direction and speed of the wind) over water (the Cortez Gulf)... But most noises are normal, just that we had never paid atention to them... before :-) We are homebuilders, I am not a purist, but this is one thing I advise to leave as is. Believe me, the first time I know of any failure (fire or smell or engine quit) pointing this vents, I will be the first to tell the list (if is not my case, knock wood:-). Also if I know of any change for the vents from Rotax, I will inmediatly will notify you, believe me. Saludos Gary Gower. PS. Now, you are architects of your own destiny, do as you wish :-) Jon Croke wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" Gary, Good point. People often ask: when does gas come out of the tube? I say that I have only heard that IF the float chamber would overflow (in case the float wont float and needle stays open) would there ever be dripping gas. You have confirmed that this is not a common situation. I wonder if gas has EVER exited out this tube in their actual experience (please come forward with your experience). So point well taken... not worth extending the tube at all and maybe just LEAVE IT ALONE. Jon > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower > > Mike and Jon, > > There are about 30 912's engines in diferent airplanes flying in my > club and in other close clubs for several years already. > > All the vent tubes are as Rotax instructions, and there are working as > they should, no gas driping or gas smell in flight or when shut down, so > I dont think is something to bother... > > --------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:07 PM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint Scheme Template --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Mike, Here's one if you can use it. Two formats so hopefully one will work! Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Fortunato" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint Scheme Template > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fortunato > > >> Does anyone have a digital file of a Zodiac 601 >> template for trying different paint schemes? > > There's one on ZAC's web site somewhere. Can't recall > the exact location (maybe in the builder's section), > but I know they're there. > > Mike F. > 601XL > > > > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: > http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:40:57 PM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Paint Scheme Template --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Sorry about that one to Mike, I clicked Reply without checking the "TO" line. DO NOT ARCHIVE ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:48:48 PM PST US From: "Bob Miller" Subject: Zenith-List: Fw: ref:Val Com TSO VHF Trasnceiver --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Miller" Listers, I'm forwarding the following from the president of a local flying club. If you're interested, please contact him directly. Bob Miller Bob, I've got a not ever used Val Com TSO VHF Tranceiver. It was initially put in a KR2 but never used, the man's KR2 was sold. It has the mounting shelf, wiring harness to mic/headphone jacks, manual in its original factory box. It doesnt fit into my S-12. I'm advertising it on barnstormers for $ 570 but to anyone in the club or I know I'll let it go for $ 525. It cost about $750 @ most avionics stores. Nice unit picture included. Dan Cosby dcos@att.net ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:21:21 PM PST US From: "Larry Martin" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" Check out my page on flaps, http://www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/electricflaps.html Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal Rozema" Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema > > Can anyone give me a lead on locating a flap actuator for the 701 flap > setup? Skyshops is not acceptable due to 3 month delivery > > Hal Rozema > ThePlaaneFolks.Net > N701PF @ DVT > Phoenix, AZ > > > -- > > -- ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:45 PM PST US From: "john H" Subject: Zenith-List: Another 601 Takes Off 7.50 BARRACUDA_HEADER_FP56 RBL: Blacklist bl.spamcop [Blocked - see ] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" Hi List Just wanted to let you know N4036A had its maiden flight yesterday. I didn't fly and was nervous as could be. Test pilot is 77years old and cool as a cucumber. He never even broke a sweat. He said the plane flew great. Was up for 30 min. Preliminary figures show: 100mph @5000 rpms 4500' MSL plane started to nibble at a stall at about 48 to 50mph in mild turbulence All temps within limits. With power pulled back plane drops 1000' per min. Landing approach was a little wobbly (winds had picked up) but touchdown was smooth. After 2 years work it was a spectacular sight to behold. I'm still grinnin and havent even been up yet. Have to finish up my PPL and then I'm a free bird. Thanks to all for your advice and ideas and for those still building its all worth it. I still have to fine tune the idle which is still a little rough. Happy Trails 601HD 912UL 30 min. and 1 landing ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:07:58 PM PST US From: Gary Gower Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N701TD back in the air again (briefly) IMPORTANT. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower Hello Kelly, That is exactly why they are there... It sure will happen in any negleted (sp?) or poorly mantained engine, remember is not your Jetsky, is your airplane engine, at least remove the carb bowls and change all the gasoline if not flown for several months. Read the Rotax manual for your engine once. I am serious, your life and our sport fredom (all over the world) is in danger with careless "pilots", and the media... Hope you take this in the positive and friendly way... Please... Give better mantainace and care to your 601 and hopely you will never see that gasoline driping. Saludos Gary Gower. Kelly Meiste wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" > People often ask: when does gas come out of the tube? I say that I have > only heard that IF the float chamber would overflow (in case the float > wont > float and needle stays open) would there ever be dripping gas. You have > confirmed that this is not a common situation. I wonder if gas has EVER > exited out this tube in their actual experience (please come forward with > your experience). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Yup it sure does, I've had it happen to me! Luckily it happened on the ground so I got to witness the stream of fuel running out those little tubes first hand, and it didn't stop until I turned off the engine. This didn't happen on my 601 but on my ultralight which was running a Rotax 503 with the dual Bing 54 carbs. Those carbs use a similar float needle shut off arrangement as our altitude adjusting carbs, so I believe it could happen on a 601 as well. The engine had sat idle for a time and may have gotten some dirt in the fuel system causing the float shut off valve to stick open. Then when I started the engine fuel ran freely from both carb overflow tubes. Not just a drip, drip, drip, but a stream as if one were siphoning a fuel can with them. And as I said the stream of fuel only stopped once I turned off the engine. So to this day I'm just a little leery of having those overflow tubes just hanging there over top my exhaust system. Kelly Meiste 601 HD Stratus 115 hours ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:25:57 PM PST US From: "gary" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: "gary" > Vans Aircraft sells flap motors. > > gary > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hal Rozema" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:55 AM > Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator > > >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema >> >> Can anyone give me a lead on locating a flap actuator for the 701 flap >> setup? Skyshops is not acceptable due to 3 month delivery >> >> Hal Rozema >> ThePlaaneFolks.Net >> N701PF @ DVT >> Phoenix, AZ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 08:37:40 PM PST US From: "Leo Gates" Subject: Zenith-List: N601Z Flight Report --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" Hi List, N601Z, CH601HDS, Tail Dragger, Rotax 912, Magnum Ivoprop. 43 happy hours now! The umbilical cord has now been cut! First I must admit to a major error on my part. I previously reported 130 MPH cruise. I'll blame it on first flight euphoria, but I made a real DUMB math calculation. True max. cruise is 120 MPH. Here are some results, after repeated flights: Alt. 3,000' MSL. Figures are: (Manifold pressure in " of Hg)(RPM - engine)(TAS - MPH)(Fuel consumption - US Gal. per Hr.). 1. (30" - full throttle)(5,500 RPM)(120 MPH)(5 GPH) 2. (27")(5,000 RPM)(99 MPH)(3.9 GPH) 3. (26.5")(4,800 RPM)(89 MPH)(3.6 GPH) 4. (26.0")(4,300 RPM)(85 MPH)(2.7 GPH) Stall speed 51 MPH ;-) I shot three landings with an 80 degree cross wind, 18 K gusting to 28 K (ASOS report from a field 15 miles away). No problem - she is solid. Test flew her to 1325 Lbs. I wouldn't intentionally load her any higher than 1250 Lbs. She has a VERY narrow pitch envelope at 1325 Lbs. I installed Ivoprop's electronic prop governor - what a hoot! More than well worth the $300. My thanks to Mr. Ivo. I installed Zenith's landing/taxi light kit in the left leading edge - outboard of the wing leading edge fuel tank. Zenith recommended standard AC GE lamps. These are about $25 each and only rated for 25 hours of life. I bought a pair of off road halogen lights from JC Whitney, $15 for the pair. They came with 55 watt bulbs - I replaced the bulbs. I bought coated bulbs, the kind that penetrate fog and haze. The taxi light is still 55 watts but I put in a 110 watt bulb for the landing light. Oh yes, I discarded the plastic housings and mounting hardware. I shot 5 landings last night. ASOS reported 4 miles visibility with haze. The lights mounted way out on the wing caused no glare. I could tell they were on, in the air, because I could see the beams penetrating the haze. Landings were easy, our 3,000' grass strip was well lit up from about 3/4 mile out and on landing. BTW while flight testing I wondered what would happen if I lost my electric fuel pumps. I have leading edge fuel tanks only. A fuel pump mounted in each wing, inboard of the tank and gravity fed from the tank. I have a third electric pump mounted under the front part of the pilot seat - just aft of the spar. This pump (boost) is connected to the outlet of the fuel selector valve (Andair, left, right, both and off). The boost pump output is connected between the engine driven pump and the carbs. Back to flight testing. At 1,000 over the field, I put the fuel selector on the right tank and turned off the right fuel pump - left and boost were not on either. I started a normal climb, with repeated S turns, to 6,000 feet. The fuel pressure remained steady and the engine was smooth and happy. I repeated this with the fuel selector on the left tank. Same result. Why not? I was running on auto gas and OAT was 80 degrees at 1K and 55 degrees at 6K. Oil and coolant temps 190 warming to 220. I have no fire sleeve etc. on rubber fuel lines. Possible that vapor lock could occur this summer with 100 degree Texas temps? I'll try this again on a hotter day. Leo Gates ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:40 PM PST US From: "Leo Gates" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another 601 Takes Off --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" John, Congratulations! Now you can join the rest of us who go around with a permanent grin. Leo Gates N601Z -------Original Message------- From: zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: Another 601 Takes Off --> Zenith-List message posted by: "john H" Hi List Just wanted to let you know N4036A had its maiden flight yesterday. ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 09:18:55 PM PST US From: Hal Rozema Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema Thanks all. I found the one I neded. Hal wscribb wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "wscribb" > >Hal, > >Check out Larry Martin's web site, >http://www.angelfire.com/un/ch701/electricflaps.html. > >Bill >601XL >Getting closer > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Hal Rozema >To: zenith-list@matronics.com >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema > >Can anyone give me a lead on locating a flap actuator for the 701 flap >setup? Skyshops is not acceptable due to 3 month delivery > >Hal Rozema >ThePlaaneFolks.Net >N701PF @ DVT >Phoenix, AZ > > > > ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 09:41:10 PM PST US From: Hal Rozema Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema Thanks for the help guys... I found the exact one I needed. Hal gary wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "gary" > > > > >>Vans Aircraft sells flap motors. >> >>gary >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Hal Rozema" >>To: >>Sent: Monday, May 09, 2005 3:55 AM >>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator >> >> >> >> >>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema >>> >>>Can anyone give me a lead on locating a flap actuator for the 701 flap >>>setup? Skyshops is not acceptable due to 3 month delivery >>> >>>Hal Rozema >>>ThePlaaneFolks.Net >>>N701PF @ DVT >>>Phoenix, AZ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > > > > ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:05 PM PST US From: NYTerminat@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-- Electric Flap Actuator --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com In a message dated 5/9/2005 10:22:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, lrm@isp.com writes: www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 Larry how did you know how many pound force to use? Also have you got your plane in the air to try the flaps in the air? Bob Spudis CH-701 starting fuselage, wings and tail complete Do not archive