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1. 04:38 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 05/16/05 (Matt Keyes)
2. 05:31 AM - possible zinc chromate source (Zed Smith)
3. 05:31 AM - Water temps and thermostat (Grant Corriveau)
4. 05:42 AM - Re: Flap actuators (NYTerminat@aol.com)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: Flap actuators (N5SL)
6. 06:47 AM - Re: Water temps and thermostat (Larry McFarland)
7. 06:51 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 05/16/05 (Todd Osborne)
8. 07:03 AM - Re: Flap actuators (NYTerminat@aol.com)
9. 07:45 AM - Bungee Cord Life (Fred Kirkland)
10. 08:07 AM - Re: 601XL Main Gear (Hunt Malcolm)
11. 08:49 AM - Re: Bungee Cord Life (Richard McLachlan)
12. 08:57 AM - Re: 601XL Main Gear (Rodney Mills)
13. 09:23 AM - Re: Bungee Cord Life (Don Walker)
14. 11:01 AM - Re: Bungee Cord Life (Leo Corbalis)
15. 11:06 AM - Re: 601XL Main Gear ()
16. 11:21 AM - Gas Welding (N5SL)
17. 01:41 PM - Re: Bungee Cord Life (royt.or@netzero.com)
18. 02:52 PM - Re: Gas Welding (jnbolding1)
19. 06:00 PM - Re: Water temps and thermostat (Michel Therrien)
20. 07:32 PM - Shop Lighting (Dave VanLanen)
21. 08:02 PM - Re: Oil temps (Jim and Lucy)
22. 08:02 PM - Re: Shop Lighting (Frank Stutzman)
23. 08:24 PM - Re: Shop Lighting (N5SL)
24. 08:24 PM - Re: Gas Welding (NYTerminat@aol.com)
25. 08:31 PM - Re: Shop Lighting (Leo Corbalis)
26. 08:32 PM - Re: Shop Lighting (Leo Gates)
27. 08:35 PM - Re: Re: Bungee Cord Life (Fred Kirkland)
28. 09:58 PM - LED Wingtip lights/strobes thoughts? (Graham Kirby)
29. 10:09 PM - Re: Shop Lighting (Craig Payne)
30. 10:55 PM - Re: Shop Lighting (kevinbonds)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 05/16/05 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Keyes <keyesmp@yahoo.com>
Hello Listers,
I am getting going on my rudder kit and have followed the zinc chromate string
closely. I want to protect the inside of my airplane as I build and understand
zinc chromate is not compatible with many top coat finishes. It makes sense
to me to stick with one type of primer system that will protect the interior
as well as exterior and provide a good mating surface for the top coat on the
exterior. Also, most of the local automotive parts stores are not even carrying
zinc chromate anymore. What primer systems have others used or recommend?
Sincerely,
Matt Keyes
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Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
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| Subject: | possible zinc chromate source |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Matt,
Can't speak for compatibility of zinc chromate with all final finshes, but the
chromate can be found in several places not normally considered.
Mom-and-Pop hardware stores, non-chain paint outlets, firms that sell steel & sheet
metal for the building trades, etc, are just a few.
Normally in gallons, it comes in yellow and red. I found a store with five one-gallon
cans at $19 each. They'd had it in stock for some time and seemed excited
that I was interested. Also, no Haz-Mat shipping charges.
I probably didn't need a whole gallon, but considering whatever new laws the tree-huggers
might enact next, I got one. The can was still properly sealed, contents
good as new.
May have been slightly politically incorrect in my comments, but that's life in
"Dubya" land.
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/90+%
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| Subject: | Water temps and thermostat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Am I expecting too much from my cooling system? When I drive my car, the
water temp is regulated pretty much on the T-setting of the thermostat...
the point where the T-stat valve opens and closes.
In my airplane the temp rides at some higher temp where the cooling system
is running 'full open' and can't bring down the temp any more. This is a
problem while taxying especially on a hot day. Let's say I just landed and
taxxied in and then want to go out again. The temp while taxiing in will
have maxxed out to 210 degrees or slightly more, so now when I start up to
taxii out, there's no way to cool the engine ....
I'm interested in other experiences with water-cooled engines - especially
the auto conversions (i.e. Rotaxes have a hybrid air/water cooling that
might give different results)...
Does anyone have such a great cooling system on their auto-conversion engine
that engine temp is a 'non issue' just like when driving a car? I.e. No
concerns while taxiing; cruising with temps around 190 or less? .... If so,
how did you achieve that?
thanks,
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
In a message dated 5/19/2005 2:38:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nfivesl@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_27_04_Actuator.JPG
Scott
Thanks very much for sharing how you did your setup for the flap actuator.
The 701 is set up different but maybe the adjustment idea can be used. Thanks
again, I know how much time it takes to answer in the format that you did. It
was in a very logical sequence and the pictures are worth thousands of words. I
don't have the gas welding set up but I am good with mig welding, would that
be OK to use for parts like the ones you did?
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Bob:
I'm glad the photos were helpful. With the wire-feed or "MIG" welder I have, I
am unable to weld thin chromoly with success. It burns through it a lot and
I can't make sure I'm getting a good weld when it does stick. My MIG welder has
it's place with thicker material, but not with applications such as this.
You may have better skills and/or better equipment than I have since mine is a
low-end wire-feed welder. I've tried it with flux-core wire and also argon gas
for flux on plain wire.
In my opinion a small gas-welding outfit makes a great addition to any shop. I
prepared an article for KitPlanes on setting up such an outfit that was published
in two parts in Dec. 04 and January of this year. I'd be glad to send you
the M.S. Word version or a photocopy of that document if you are interested
in learning to gas weld. I'm no expert, but I documented the process of obtaining
the bottles, having them filled, selecting a torch, etc. Once you have the
ability to gas weld, you won't use your MIG much anymore on thin metal.
I will add that the MIG welder does an excellent job of tacking parts in place
(without melting the aluminum below) prior to removing the part and gas-welding
on parts such as the entry steps and engine mount.
Scott Laughlin
N5SL (Reserved)
www.cooknwithgas.com
Painting my Engine Block
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
I don't have the gas welding set up but I am good with mig welding, would that
be OK to use for parts like the ones you did?
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Water temps and thermostat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Grant,
My Rabbit diesel radiator was rather inefficient because the air bunched
up in front of the radiator head and hoses and would essentially just go
around it. I added an intake that smoothly separates air flow around
the intake hoses and the radiator head. The intake also diverts air
below and louvers add a bit to the negative draft. I don't have any
cooling issues on a long taxi on a really hot day, even with the
radiator 38" back from the firewall.. Would have liked to stay internal
with my cooling, but I wanted to solve the problem so many seemed to
have with the standard ZAC design.
See picture of radiator at this address. Other pics are on the
completions page.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/radiatorintake.gif
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
Grant Corriveau wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
>Am I expecting too much from my cooling system? When I drive my car, the
>water temp is regulated pretty much on the T-setting of the thermostat...
>the point where the T-stat valve opens and closes.
>
>In my airplane the temp rides at some higher temp where the cooling system
>is running 'full open' and can't bring down the temp any more. This is a
>problem while taxying especially on a hot day. Let's say I just landed and
>taxxied in and then want to go out again. The temp while taxiing in will
>have maxxed out to 210 degrees or slightly more, so now when I start up to
>taxii out, there's no way to cool the engine ....
>
>I'm interested in other experiences with water-cooled engines - especially
>the auto conversions (i.e. Rotaxes have a hybrid air/water cooling that
>might give different results)...
>
>Does anyone have such a great cooling system on their auto-conversion engine
>that engine temp is a 'non issue' just like when driving a car? I.e. No
>concerns while taxiing; cruising with temps around 190 or less? .... If so,
>how did you achieve that?
>
>thanks,
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 05/16/05 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Todd Osborne <todd@toddtown.com>
Well you don't need to use Zinc Chromate on the outside of the plane,
only internal parts. I use Zinc Phosphate myself, Wicks has been
stocking it (though only after my request). I have heard good things
about it, and it is not nearly as dangerous (still protect yourself
though) as chromate.
Todd
Matt Keyes wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Keyes <keyesmp@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Listers,
>
> I am getting going on my rudder kit and have followed the zinc chromate string
closely. I want to protect the inside of my airplane as I build and understand
zinc chromate is not compatible with many top coat finishes. It makes sense
to me to stick with one type of primer system that will protect the interior
as well as exterior and provide a good mating surface for the top coat on the
exterior. Also, most of the local automotive parts stores are not even carrying
zinc chromate anymore. What primer systems have others used or recommend?
>
> Sincerely,
>
>
> Matt Keyes
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Todd Osborne
Internet E-Mail: todd@toddtown.com
Web Site: www.toddtown.com
MSN (Windows) Messenger: todd@toddtown.com
AOL Instant Messenger: toddosborn@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuators |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Scott
I would definitely be interested in the article, I have a set of cutting
torches and gas. I have not tried any welding with gas.
Thanks
Bob
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| Subject: | Bungee Cord Life |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
I am ready to install my landing gear on my HDS. The kit was originally sold in
1996. So far as I know the bungees have been stored out of the sun and they
look like new but is there deterioration due to age? What is the life expectancy
of the bungees? Have you changed yours and if so how long did they last?
Thanx,
Fred
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hunt Malcolm" <Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk>
Paul
Do these costs include wheels, axles, brakes and tires? or are they just for the
firbreglass gear legs.
Best regards
Malcolm
Just started in England.
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
PAULROD36@msn.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Main Gear
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
Rodney, I am just now in the process of ordering a set of main gear from Chip Erwin
at Czech Air Works. When I asked him initially, he quoted a 20 pound weight
saving, and roughly $950. The bucks may fluctuate, but the weight saving (I'm
also using Corvair power) sure sounded good. You may want to czech (pun intended)
with him, too.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair
----- Original Message -----
From: Rodney Mills<mailto:Ramills@charter.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:01 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Main Gear
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rodney Mills <Ramills@charter.net<mailto:Ramills@charter.net>>
I have been lurking for quite some time and have gotten a lot of good
information from this list. I am about to order the remainder of 601 XL
kit and am trying to decide on Zenith maingear or Grove. Searched the
archives and didn't get enough info to decide. Any suggestions? Is
there anyone that has the Grove gear installed and what are the thoughts
on using it. I will be using nose gear from Zenith with possible wheel
change. Thanks
Rodney Mills
Northport,AL
601XL Corvair
Empenage done. Engine built to longblock stage.
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Cord Life |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard McLachlan" <richard@rodsley.net>
We find the nose one lasts about 100 hours of use before it starts to fray
and needs changing. It is a 1080HD.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Bungee Cord Life
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
>
> I am ready to install my landing gear on my HDS. The kit was originally
sold in 1996. So far as I know the bungees have been stored out of the sun
and they look like new but is there deterioration due to age? What is the
life expectancy of the bungees? Have you changed yours and if so how long
did they last?
> Thanx,
> Fred
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Main Gear |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rodney Mills <Ramills@charter.net>
Paul and Brett,
Thanks for the replies. I will follow up on both.
do not archive
Rodney Mills
601XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Cord Life |
Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 20 May 2005 11:22:58 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
I got mine in 93. first flew with them in 99. they now have 360+ hrs on them and
seem to function about like they always have. Still look good on inspection.
Don Walker HDS
----- Original Message -----
From: Fred Kirkland<mailto:fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 9:44 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Bungee Cord Life
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net<mailto:fdk0154.tx@cox.net>>
I am ready to install my landing gear on my HDS. The kit was originally sold
in 1996. So far as I know the bungees have been stored out of the sun and they
look like new but is there deterioration due to age? What is the life expectancy
of the bungees? Have you changed yours and if so how long did they last?
Thanx,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Cord Life |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
I bought my 601 HDS kit in 1992, including the bungees. I just replced them
last month. They had streched so that with the plane parked and empty the
gear tops were about 1/2 inch above the wing. This had no effect on the gear
as far as I could tell. I always grease em on (in my dreams).
Leo Corbalis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Bungee Cord Life
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
>
> I am ready to install my landing gear on my HDS. The kit was originally
> sold in 1996. So far as I know the bungees have been stored out of the
> sun and they look like new but is there deterioration due to age? What is
> the life expectancy of the bungees? Have you changed yours and if so how
> long did they last?
> Thanx,
> Fred
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Main Gear |
Seal-Send-Time: Fri, 20 May 2005 13:05:08 -0500
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
Malcolm,
When I originally contacted him, all I asked about was main gear. Since then, I've
refined it to main gear less tires and tubes, and added the attachment brackets,
so I don't yet know what the final price will be. I received an order
confirmation from his assistant, and she will get back to me shortly with the
invoice total, and air freight costs, which I'll share with the List.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair/Taildragger
still slogging through the fuselage
DO NOT ARCHIVE
----- Original Message -----
From: Hunt Malcolm<mailto:Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601XL Main Gear
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hunt Malcolm" <Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk<mailto:Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk>>
Paul
Do these costs include wheels, axles, brakes and tires? or are they just for
the firbreglass gear legs.
Best regards
Malcolm
Just started in England.
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
PAULROD36@msn.com<mailto:PAULROD36@msn.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Main Gear
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com<mailto:PAULROD36@msn.com>>
Rodney, I am just now in the process of ordering a set of main gear from Chip
Erwin at Czech Air Works. When I asked him initially, he quoted a 20 pound weight
saving, and roughly $950. The bucks may fluctuate, but the weight saving
(I'm also using Corvair power) sure sounded good. You may want to czech (pun intended)
with him, too.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair
----- Original Message -----
From: Rodney Mills<mailto:Ramills@charter.net<mailto:Ramills@charter.net>>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:01 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Main Gear
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rodney Mills <Ramills@charter.net<mailto:Ramills@charter.net<mailto:Ramills@charter.net<mailto:Ramills@charter.net>>>
I have been lurking for quite some time and have gotten a lot of good
information from this list. I am about to order the remainder of 601 XL
kit and am trying to decide on Zenith maingear or Grove. Searched the
archives and didn't get enough info to decide. Any suggestions? Is
there anyone that has the Grove gear installed and what are the thoughts
on using it. I will be using nose gear from Zenith with possible wheel
change. Thanks
Rodney Mills
Northport,AL
601XL Corvair
Empenage done. Engine built to longblock stage.
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external to Network Rail.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Bob:
You have almost everything you need to start gas welding. I purchased a Meco Midget torch kit from http://www.tinmantech.com/ and it has worked out very well. You would probably only be interested in Part 2 of the welding article, so I scanned and posted it at:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/WeldingPart2.pdf
It may take a while to load depending on your connection speed.
The article may be a little too elementary for you, but maybe you can pick up a
few tips that will get you going with gas welding.
Good luck,
Scott Laughlin
N5SL (Reserved)
www.cooknwithgas.com
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
I would definitely be interested in the article, I have a set of cutting
torches and gas. I have not tried any welding with gas.
Thanks
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Cord Life |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "royt.or@netzero.com" <royt.or@netzero.com>
Fred asked: "I am ready to install my landing gear on my HDS. The kit was originally
sold in 1996."
The bungies on N601RT looked good when I replaced them due to the landing gear
failure. The bungies had over 300 hours of flying and over 400 landings when I
replaced them. My kit was purchased about 1995 and the first flight was 2003.
Zenith now has information and parts to install floating nutplates mounted on an
aluminum strip. This replaces the individual nuts on the 28 bolts which hold
the lower main gear bearing support in place. I strongly recommend installing
these or some other mechanism to allow replacing the bungies without requiring
access to the nuts from the top of the wing.
Regards,
Roy
N601RT: CH601HDS, nose gear, Rotax 912ULS, All electric, IFR equipped,
331hrs, 431 landings
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jnbolding1" <jnbolding1@mail.ev1.net>
The best article I have seen on gas welding is at Budd Davisson's www.airbum.com something like "Zen and the Weld Puddle" LOW&SLOW John
>Bob:
>
>You have almost everything you need to start gas welding. I purchased a Meco Midget torch kit from http://www.tinmantech.com/ and it has worked out very well. You would probably only be interested in Part 2 of the welding article, so I scanned and posted it at:
>
>http://www.cooknwithgas.com/WeldingPart2.pdf
>
>It may take a while to load depending on your connection speed.
>
>The article may be a little too elementary for you, but maybe you can pick up
a few tips that will get you going with gas welding.
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| Subject: | Re: Water temps and thermostat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Hi Grant, I would say that so far mine is a "non
issue", but I did not live through the hi-temp of the
summer.
I wend to Bromont for dinner with my 601. Water temp
stayed at 187. I noticed that in some situations, it
reaches 210, but I'll say that below 220, I'm not that
nervous (the coolant is good for 232 I think).
Oil temps is a bit of another thing. With my previous
EA-81, Oil temps was always good staying between 200
and 220. With the new engine, it was between 245 and
258 so I decided to install an oil cooler. I did that
this week and this evening, oil temp was at 170-180
and topped at 199. I feel it is a bit cool (people
tell me it should be above 200 deg). I may block part
of the cooler with duct tape but I'll wait for a
warmer day before doing this.
Michel
--- Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> Am I expecting too much from my cooling system?
> When I drive my car, the
> water temp is regulated pretty much on the
> T-setting of the thermostat...
> the point where the T-stat valve opens and closes.
>
> In my airplane the temp rides at some higher temp
> where the cooling system
> is running 'full open' and can't bring down the temp
> any more. This is a
> problem while taxying especially on a hot day.
> Let's say I just landed and
> taxxied in and then want to go out again. The temp
> while taxiing in will
> have maxxed out to 210 degrees or slightly more, so
> now when I start up to
> taxii out, there's no way to cool the engine ....
>
> I'm interested in other experiences with
> water-cooled engines - especially
> the auto conversions (i.e. Rotaxes have a hybrid
> air/water cooling that
> might give different results)...
>
> Does anyone have such a great cooling system on
> their auto-conversion engine
> that engine temp is a 'non issue' just like when
> driving a car? I.e. No
> concerns while taxiing; cruising with temps around
> 190 or less? .... If so,
> how did you achieve that?
>
> thanks,
>
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>
>
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
I'm starting to prepare my shop, and one of the things I need to do is add
some lighting above the area where I will put my 4' x 12' table. Does
anyone on the list have any suggestions for the best overhead lighting to
use, or are the trusty old 4' shop lights good enough?
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
601XL - registered for workshop, preparing to order kit
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>
At 08:59 PM 5/20/2005, you wrote:
>Oil temps is a bit of another thing. With my previous
>EA-81, Oil temps was always good staying between 200
>and 220. With the new engine, it was between 245 and
>258 so I decided to install an oil cooler. I did that
>this week and this evening, oil temp was at 170-180
>and topped at 199. I feel it is a bit cool (people
>tell me it should be above 200 deg). I may block part
>of the cooler with duct tape but I'll wait for a
>warmer day before doing this.
>
>Michel
Hi Michel
I don't think that your oil temps are too cold.
A lot of our big diesels run at 80c which is 176f.
They have giant rads so the temp never goes higher
no matter how hard I run them.
Some may claim you need it at 212 to get rid of the
water from combustion blow by.
If you take some water and put it on a 176 degree
hot plate it will not last there very long.
It is not likely to sludge up the oil at these temps.
Jim Pollard
replanting corn
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| Subject: | Re: Shop Lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Frank Stutzman <stutzman@stutzman.com>
On Fri, 20 May 2005, Dave VanLanen wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I'm starting to prepare my shop, and one of the things I need to do is add
> some lighting above the area where I will put my 4' x 12' table. Does
> anyone on the list have any suggestions for the best overhead lighting to
> use, or are the trusty old 4' shop lights good enough?
You are a bit further along than I am, but I got a wacko idea that I've
yet to implement so I don't really know if its feasible.
Most of the shop has the typical 4 foot flourecent fixtures. Over the
long work bench though I want to put in a overhead track that will suspend
some sort of a rolling trolly. On that trolly will be two 2 foot
flourescent fixtures plus a halogen spot light. The spot light will be on
an articulated arm so I can put it whereever I want. In my better Rube
Goldberg moments I try to figure out how to get an air line attached to
the trolly. And a power strip. And, ooo! ooo! a vaccuum.
If I really do get the shop tricked out like I want, I won't have the
money or energy to build a 701.
Frank Stutzman
Bonanza N494B "Hula Girl"
Hood River, OR
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| Subject: | Re: Shop Lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
The trusty old 4' shop lights do the trick for me.
Scott Laughlin
Do Not Archive
Dave VanLanen <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
or are the trusty old 4' shop lights good enough?
Dave Van Lanen
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
In a message dated 5/20/2005 2:23:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
nfivesl@yahoo.com writes:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/WeldingPart2.pdf
Scott
Thanks for the article, slow to load (dial up) but worth the wait. The torch
looks nice, I think I saw this at Sun n Fun this year. Another tool to add to
the collection.
Thanks again
Bob
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| Subject: | Re: Shop Lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
Yes if you get enough. I used 3 fixtures above each long side, maybe a
little toward the inside.
Leo Corbalis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Shop Lighting
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
> <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I'm starting to prepare my shop, and one of the things I need to do is add
> some lighting above the area where I will put my 4' x 12' table. Does
> anyone on the list have any suggestions for the best overhead lighting to
> use, or are the trusty old 4' shop lights good enough?
>
> Dave Van Lanen
> Madison, WI
> 601XL - registered for workshop, preparing to order kit
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Shop Lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
Mine are "New" 4' shop lights. I am 70 with the usual need for better
lighting at my age. The shop lights work fine. Oh, I do use a pencil
flashlight, on occasion, to peer into a dark corner to check for spiders.
Leo Gates
N601Z, 47.5 Hrs.
-------Original Message-------
From: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Shop Lighting
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal
net>
I'm starting to prepare my shop, and one of the things I need to do is add
some lighting above the area where I will put my 4' x 12' table. Does
anyone on the list have any suggestions for the best overhead lighting to
use, or are the trusty old 4' shop lights good enough?
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
601XL - registered for workshop, preparing to order kit
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | Re: Bungee Cord Life |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
Got a picture of what that looks like?
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| Subject: | LED Wingtip lights/strobes thoughts? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" <gkirby@yahoo.com>
I noticed that Aircraft Spruce is carrying a new LED based wingtip
light/strobe system:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/elpages/ledwingtips.php
Has anybody got any experience of this product? I'm thinking of using it
instead of the usual aeroflash system. Hopefully it will draw less power
and not have the problem with failing capacitors that was discussed a couple
of months ago..
Thanks,
Graham Kirby
601HD
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| Subject: | Re: Shop Lighting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
One thing to watch out for: if your shop is not part of the house and
relatively cold (like mine) then standard florescent lamps may not work
well (slow starts, flicker, short life). You need fixtures with ballasts
and lamps designed for lower temperatures.
Or maybe you live in Florida.
-- Craig
Dave VanLanen wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I'm starting to prepare my shop, and one of the things I need to do is add
> some lighting above the area where I will put my 4' x 12' table. Does
> anyone on the list have any suggestions for the best overhead lighting to
> use, or are the trusty old 4' shop lights good enough?
>
> Dave Van Lanen
> Madison, WI
> 601XL - registered for workshop, preparing to order kit
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds" <kevinbonds@comcast.net>
Madison, Wisconsin is a long way from Florida. I guess you missed that,
Craig. So your advice is especially pertinent.
do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Corvair powered;Plansbuilding.
Empenage done; working on wings an engine.
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Or maybe you live in Florida.
-- Craig
Dave VanLanen wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
<davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Dave Van Lanen
> Madison, WI
> 601XL - registered for workshop, preparing to order kit
>
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
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