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1. 12:46 AM - Re: 701 Leading Edge Slats (Gary Gower)
2. 03:34 AM - Re: Paint quanity (Rick R)
3. 03:35 AM - Back in the blue... (Grant Corriveau)
4. 03:37 AM - Re: 701 Leading Edge Slats (Rick R)
5. 04:09 AM - microballoons (Gordon)
6. 04:56 AM - paint mask ()
7. 05:14 AM - Re: microballoons (Rick R)
8. 05:59 AM - Jabiru Engine Seminar (Pete Krotje)
9. 06:14 AM - cam timing and compressions (Ben Haas)
10. 07:03 AM - Re: microballoons (Larry Martin)
11. 09:36 AM - Re: 701 Leading Edge Slats (Gary Gower)
12. 11:35 AM - Trim tab installation (Brad Cohen)
13. 03:22 PM - Plans 601 XL 4 Sale (ABGS)
14. 08:22 PM - Re: Trim tab installation (Bryan Martin)
15. 08:39 PM - Re: Back in the blue... (Dave & Darlene)
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Leading Edge Slats |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
I work with fiberglass as my main job, so making the little parts and detailing
the cowling was not a big deal for us in our project.
Yes, I know, fiberglass parts is not the strong part of ZAC factory, I supose
that this parts are made by third persons, for them... Well.
What I will sugest to do as a simple and good solution is:
Attach the parts to the slat the best you can, then buy some microballons and
(using a mouth and nose filter) make a putty with resin. The mcroballons is
like talc but very VERY light. with this homemade putty, fill all the gaps
and once is dried, sand up to form the parts contour.
Important Note : The microballons are not poison, but they are some kind of plastic
or glass talc material... The use of the filter over the nose and mouth
is because this material is no degradable, this means that all the material
in your lungs will over last you... Anyone of us will die with that talc inside
the lungs they degrade in 1,000 years or more. Just this.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Tebenkof@aol.com wrote:
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Rick,
I had similar experience with several of the fiberglass parts, particularly
the slat ends. IMHO this is the one area where ZAC does not do as well as
they might. Nor have they been particularly forthcoming with solutions. I
believe I saw a photo (don't remember where) of a solution in the form of
cutting the end of the slat into tabs which can then be bent in to match the
fieberglass part. That seems extreme, but maybe not. Others have talked about
making their own FG parts.
I would certainly be interested if you find a good solution, from ZAC or
otherwise. But rest assured, you are not the only one.
Jim Greenough
701,Portland
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| Subject: | Re: Paint quanity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Bill,
Looks like a lot of folks are interested in your respirator. Maybe the www.ch701.com web site under homemade tools is a great place to display it.... It'll always be there as a reference to others.
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deucy100@netscape.net wrote:
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Bill
If you would not mind I could use any information on your respirator that you are
willing to share.
Thank you
Tom
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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| Subject: | Back in the blue... |
"InterVAR group <InterVAR@yahoogroups.com>
Michel Therrien" <mtherr@yahoo.com>,
"Don O'Sullivan" <don.osullivan@videotron.ca>,
Don Wright <dowright@shaw.ca>,
"David E. Wright" <davidewright@shaw.ca>,
paul & myriam <delyriam@hotmail.com>,
Terri Corriveau <terri.corriveau@mail.mcgill.ca>,
Yvan Robichaud <yvan.robichaud2@sympatico.ca>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
So, finally I ran out of items on my 'things to fix list' and I had to go
flying! My Zodiac, GHTF is back in the air after a two+ year layoff to
solve an engine problem and make some other upgrades.
Of course, a homebuilt aircraft is never truly finished .... there's always
new ideas to make it a little better ;-), but for now I hope to make some
longer flights this summer and fall and just enjoy the fun of zipping around
the country side, visiting small airports in this little 'sports car' of an
airplane.
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Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Leading Edge Slats |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Gary,
Where might I find these supplies? (microballoons) (resin)...auto parts house
or boat supply store???
Thanks in advance.....
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Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com> wrote:
What I will sugest to do as a simple and good solution is:
Attach the parts to the slat the best you can, then buy some microballons and (using
a mouth and nose filter) make a putty with resin. The mcroballons is like
talc but very VERY light. with this homemade putty, fill all the gaps and once
is dried, sand up to form the parts contour.
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gordon" <cscsail@gmavt.net>
Any marine supply store (West Marine) should care them.
Gordon
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <601xl@sympatico.ca>
Rick we do have a fresh air filter system in the homemade tools section at http://www.ch601.org/resources/Quick%20Tools.htm or in the Homemade tools section under quick tools for the ch701.com viewers. IF Billl has another way of doing things I would be more then happy to post them on the website.
Mark
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| Subject: | Re: microballoons |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Thanks all...West here I come!
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Gordon <cscsail@gmavt.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gordon"
Any marine supply store (West Marine) should care them.
Gordon
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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| Subject: | Jabiru Engine Seminar |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje" <pkrotje@athenet.net>
Hello All
Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft and Jabiru Pacific have arranged for Don Richter,
Jabiru Aircraft's main engine man to put on some engine installation,
maintenance, and repair seminars in the USA. Details:
July 23rd at Jabiru Pacific, Fresno CA - one day seminar on general Jabiru
installation, maintenance, and overhaul concerns. Cost for this one day
seminar is $75.00
For reservations call Jabiru Pacific at 559-431-1701
August 2nd & 3rd at Jabiru USA in Shelbyville, TN August 4th & 5th at Jabiru
USA in Shelbyville, TN.
The seminars at Jabiru USA will be two day meetings covering all
installation concerns, regular Jabiru engine maintenance, and engine
overhaul up to the point of the 1000 hour top overhaul.
Attendance is limited to 10 persons each seminar. Cost for the seminar is
$250.00. Successful graduates of the course will be competent to complete
any of the three subject areas.
For reservations call Jabiru USA Sport Aircraft at 931-680-2800 or check the
www.usjabiru.com site
Pete Krotje
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| Subject: | cam timing and compressions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ben Haas" <n801bh@netzero.com>
A fellow builder here in Jackson Hole has an RV-6 with a 0-320 lyc in it. He bought
the motor already assembled and was told it had the 160 HP pistons {74089}
in it. So far the performance is not what is expected, So I have a couple of
questions for you guys. First since you cannot determine the comp ratio by the
leakdown method has anybody done a compression check using the regular way????
If I could get some readings from both a 150 hp and a 160 hp motor I could
tell what pistons are in it without removing the cylinders.. Second this guy
seems to think whoever built up this motor "might" have got the cam timed wrong,
he thinks it is off by one tooth. I can degree the motor without tearing it
down but I need the cam spec for a 150/160 stock cam.... Anyone out there have
those ???? Thanks in advance.
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| Subject: | Re: microballoons |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
You can also consider using Cabosil or cotton flock, both available at
AirCraft Spruce or Wicks. Really cheap, $2.30 for a gallon bag. Flock
would be best for your application. You would not have the respiratory
problem you would have with microballons. Of course a respirator is still a
good idea. Cabosil is best for bonding or where structural integrity is
required. Flock is best where a fill up is needed and sands fairly easy.
None of it sands easy.
Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
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From: "Rick R" <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: microballoons
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
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> Thanks all...West here I come!
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> Gordon <cscsail@gmavt.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gordon"
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> Any marine supply store (West Marine) should care them.
> Gordon
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> Rick
> Orlando, FL. USA
> http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Leading Edge Slats |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
If you have a boat supply store in town, or a fiberglass store they should handle
it, the microballons are very light, so they might sell it in plastic bags...
I think that a volume about a gallon will be enough for all the little parts
in the plane, is far less than a pound (soory I dont use american weight
system). A friend told me that in USA you can find cans with filler already
made with microballons.
Dont buy the stuff to repair car dents, this is too heavy and can "crack" with
the sun. Sorry I forgot to mention that the resin is epoxy type, handle it
with gloves (the trow away ones).
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R
Gary,
Where might I find these supplies? (microballoons) (resin)...auto parts house or
boat supply store???
Thanks in advance.....
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Gary Gower wrote:
What I will sugest to do as a simple and good solution is:
Attach the parts to the slat the best you can, then buy some microballons and (using
a mouth and nose filter) make a putty with resin. The mcroballons is like
talc but very VERY light. with this homemade putty, fill all the gaps and once
is dried, sand up to form the parts contour.
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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| Subject: | Trim tab installation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp@msn.com>
I have a question concerning the cut out for the trim tab;
I just made the cut-out for the trim tab and I am getting ready to install the
channel 6t6-3.
The photo instructions state to place the channel (6t6-3) flush (to the edge of
the cut-out) then drill and cleco, starting with the top of the elevator. But
when I do this, aligning the top of the elevator skin to the channel, there
is about 2-3mm of skin overhang on the bottom of the elevator.
I assume this is going to be acceptable considering that the leading edge of the
trim tab is angled back 117 degrees, which would create an in-situ gap seal;
but just wanted to verify this before proceeding
Thanks List
Brad Cohen
5-6803
N969BC (reserved)
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| Subject: | Plans 601 XL 4 Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ABGS" <abgs@impulse.net.au>
Hi
I have a full of plans including CD and Tail wheel plans for a 601 XL with owership
tranfer form included
I have ordered a full kit and I get another set of plan with a new serial number
cost is $250USD this includes Postage
Please email me off list for any further info
info@cumminsspiners.com
Fly Safe
Allan
Cummins Spinners
www.cumminsspinners.com
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| Subject: | Re: Trim tab installation |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
That doesn't sound right. I don't remember having any overhang on mine and I
don't see any in the photos I have of the the prototype. I think the
overhang might interfere with full deflection of the tab. Try turning the
channel over the other side up and see how it fits.
on 5/26/05 2:34 PM, Brad Cohen at bradfnp@msn.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" <bradfnp@msn.com>
>
> I have a question concerning the cut out for the trim tab;
>
> I just made the cut-out for the trim tab and I am getting ready to install the
> channel 6t6-3.
> The photo instructions state to place the channel (6t6-3) flush (to the edge
> of the cut-out) then drill and cleco, starting with the top of the elevator.
> But when I do this, aligning the top of the elevator skin to the channel,
> there is about 2-3mm of skin overhang on the bottom of the elevator.
>
> I assume this is going to be acceptable considering that the leading edge of
> the trim tab is angled back 117 degrees, which would create an in-situ gap
> seal; but just wanted to verify this before proceeding
>
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Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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| Subject: | Re: Back in the blue... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
You make us all jealous Grant. Wish we were up there with you.
Dave
Alberta
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From: "Grant Corriveau" <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Michel Therrien" <mtherr@yahoo.com>; "Don O'Sullivan"
<don.osullivan@videotron.ca>; "Don Wright" <dowright@shaw.ca>; "David E.
Wright" <davidewright@shaw.ca>; "paul & myriam" <delyriam@hotmail.com>;
"Terri Corriveau" <terri.corriveau@mail.mcgill.ca>; "Yvan Robichaud"
<yvan.robichaud2@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: Back in the blue...
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
> So, finally I ran out of items on my 'things to fix list' and I had to go
> flying! My Zodiac, GHTF is back in the air after a two+ year layoff to
> solve an engine problem and make some other upgrades.
>
> Of course, a homebuilt aircraft is never truly finished .... there's
> always
> new ideas to make it a little better ;-), but for now I hope to make some
> longer flights this summer and fall and just enjoy the fun of zipping
> around
> the country side, visiting small airports in this little 'sports car' of
> an
> airplane.
>
> --
> Grant Corriveau
> C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>
>
>
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