---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 05/29/05: 18 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:13 AM - Sealant around fuel fillers (Elwood140@aol.com) 2. 05:22 AM - 601XL Plans and Zenith Rivet Puller For Sale (Jack K. Holley) 3. 06:37 AM - flap dimensions... (Brad Cohen) 4. 07:41 AM - 601 Jab 3300 Oil Leak (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 5. 07:41 AM - Another bird leaves the nest! (Trevor Page) 6. 07:44 AM - Re: paint mask (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 7. 09:55 AM - Re: Another bird leaves the nest! (Crvsecretary@AOL.COM) 8. 10:41 AM - Re: 601 Jab 3300 Oil Leak (ron dewees) 9. 11:21 AM - Re: Another bird leaves the nest! (Larry McFarland) 10. 12:07 PM - (gpjann@juno.com) 11. 12:07 PM - Zodiac group (gpjann@juno.com) 12. 12:29 PM - Re: Sheet Metal Brake () 13. 12:55 PM - [ Charles F. Long ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! (Email List Photo Shares) 14. 02:07 PM - Re: Another bird leaves the nest! (n801bh@netzero.com) 15. 06:53 PM - 601 XL Paint Booth Respirator (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 16. 08:32 PM - Flap actuator... (VideoFlyer@aol.com) 17. 08:36 PM - Paint options. (Peter Dunning) 18. 08:58 PM - Re: Paint options. (Randy Stout) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:13:32 AM PST US From: Elwood140@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Sealant around fuel fillers --> Zenith-List message posted by: Elwood140@aol.com Hi all. I'd like to seal around the fuel fillers on the wings of my 701. Does anyone know of a fuel-resistant but paintable sealant for such use? Thanks Larry Wood (N701LW getting closer) ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:22:18 AM PST US From: "Jack K. Holley" Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Plans and Zenith Rivet Puller For Sale --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jack K. Holley" I have a set of 601XL plans for sale. They are the January 2003 revision prints with a construction manual. I do not have the revised plans CD. The plans have an original serial number from Zenith. Also for sale is a pneumatic rivet puller from Zenith - with the heads modified for the Zenith rivet technique. I purchased these a little over a year ago with the intention of building a 601XL. However, the family would prefer to have a boat so we all can enjoy the lake we live at - and entertain friends and family. Can't do that in a 2-seat airplane! So, since it will be a while before I will be ready to build, I have decided to sell the plans. I thought I'd offer these to the list first before listing them on eBay. I'll accept any reasonable offer. If you're interested, please contact me at jkholley@comcast.net. Thanks! Jack K. Holley ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:37:31 AM PST US From: "Brad Cohen" Subject: Zenith-List: flap dimensions... --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brad Cohen" Hey List, Finally(!) finished the tailfeathers and now moving on to the flaps. Does anyone recall what the flap leading edge total width is/was? the trailing edge is given as 2080mm. but no leading edge width is listed on the plans. The sum total width I achieved by adding all the rib stations was 1983mm; but I would like to hear that confirmed before cutting this really big piece of sheet metal. Thanks Brad Cohen 5-6803, N969BC (reserved) do not archeive ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:24 AM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: 601 Jab 3300 Oil Leak --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Dear Thread Friends, My 3300 oil filter seal seeps a little oil. Notice after long full power runs where the oil pressure gets up to around 90. Do I need thinner oil or is the filter O-ring defective? Also where can we purchase the Z386 filter ? Checked Avanced Auto and they had no clue. Best regards, Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:41:26 AM PST US From: Trevor Page Subject: Zenith-List: Another bird leaves the nest! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page C-IDUS had her maiden flight this morning @ 8:36 AM. I did 1 circuit around the airport and came back because of cooling problems. Oil temps seem to be stable @ 228 degrees but the coolant overheated and cut short the flight. Some changes will have to be made with both rad inlets to see if the temps come down. Other than that she flew very nice. I hit 90Mph @ 4500RPM but the airspeed has not been verified or calibrated yet, that will come later once I solve the cooling problem. Trevor Page 601HD C-IDUS ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:44:11 AM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: paint mask --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Thread Friends, I have been real busy the past few days trying to fly everything I can so I have not got the respirator photos and plans done, Hope in the next week or so to be able to post on 601.org. Beat regards, Bill ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:55:11 AM PST US From: Crvsecretary@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another bird leaves the nest! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com Congratulations Trevor !! I know deep inside every reader wishes you great success in your baby leaving the nest and a quick rework to get your cooling temps under control! Regards, Tracy Smith Naugatuck, CT 601xl tail 100% wings in the crate N458XL (reserved) do not archive In a message dated 5/29/2005 10:42:30 AM Eastern Standard Time, webmaster@upac.ca writes: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page C-IDUS had her maiden flight this morning @ 8:36 AM. I did 1 circuit around the airport and came back because of cooling problems. Oil temps seem to be stable @ 228 degrees but the coolant overheated and cut short the flight. Some changes will have to be made with both rad inlets to see if the temps come down. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:41:54 AM PST US From: ron dewees Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 Jab 3300 Oil Leak --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees Hi Bill, I have never had your oil seepage problem but can help you with the oil filter. I use a Pure 14476 that costs about $4 at auto stores. It fits almost all older Toyota vehicles and comes in a standard and a premium model that is only a buck or two more. One thing to keep in mind on oil leaks around the filter is that the Jab's oil circulation pressurizes the filter before going to the regulator. A small leak that would be no problem at 30 # pressure might blow a lot at 75#. I don't know of any other aircraft motor that pressuruzes the filter. Seems like a potential safety issue, but just be careful to use a good filter and tighten it correctly. Remember that the "doughnut" adapter under the oil filter also has an O ring that could be loose. Make sure it's tightened into the block securely, too. I use a trick I have read about to safety the filter against unscrewing-. take a hose clamp and secure it around the filter somewhere near the base of the filter. Then you can use safety wire around the screw and back to the the pressure sender or inlet or outlet pipes to keep it from backing out. Good luck Ron N601TD/Jab 3300 78 hours and all smiles JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com > >Dear Thread Friends, My 3300 oil filter seal seeps a little oil. Notice after >long full power runs where the oil pressure gets up to around 90. Do I need >thinner oil or is the filter O-ring defective? Also where can we purchase the >Z386 filter ? Checked Avanced Auto and they had no clue. Best regards, Bill of >Georgia > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:21:26 AM PST US From: Larry McFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another bird leaves the nest! --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland Congratulations Trevor! Very pleased to see you in the air. You could back thru this cooling problem by adding a small pair of switch controlled fans to pull the air through and then, when in cruise, find the rpms that permit you to switch them off and work your various cooling modifications to eliminate the need for the fans. Cooling problems often require very subtle solutions. Fly safe, Larry McFarland - 601HDS Trevor Page wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page > >C-IDUS had her maiden flight this morning @ 8:36 AM. > >I did 1 circuit around the airport and came back because of cooling >problems. Oil temps seem to be stable @ 228 degrees but the coolant >overheated and cut short the flight. Some changes will have to be >made with both rad inlets to see if the temps come down. > >Other than that she flew very nice. I hit 90Mph @ 4500RPM but the >airspeed has not been verified or calibrated yet, that will come >later once I solve the cooling problem. > >Trevor Page >601HD C-IDUS > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:16 PM PST US From: gpjann@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com If you are interested in forming a Zodiac or Zodiac 601 Interest Group please contact me and pass the word. Greg Jannakos Zodiac 601HDS N4399 Corvair 100HP Plans built gpjann@juno.com 770-277-1637 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 12:07:57 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac group From: gpjann@juno.com --> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com Sorry I forgot to mention that the Zodiac Interest Group is in the Atlanta, Georgia area. Greg ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:29:19 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal Brake --> Zenith-List message posted by: Thanks, Carlos, I really appreciate the help. Regards, Paul R ----- Original Message ----- From: Carlos Sa To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 5:38 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sheet Metal Brake --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa > Paul, try this URL: http://www.vansairforce.org/tools/ Carlos --- PAULROD36@msn.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > > I've misplaced (I don't lose things; they just go into an alternate universe) my plans for the > four-foot sheet metal brake, and I can't find it in the archives. Does anybody have a copy I can > download? > > Thanks, > > Paul Rodriguez > 601XL/Corvair ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 12:55:03 PM PST US Subject: Zenith-List: [ Charles F. Long ] : New Email List Photo Share Available! From: Email List Photo Shares --> Zenith-List message posted by: Email List Photo Shares A new Email List Photo Share is available: Poster: Charles F. Long Lists: Zenith-List Subject: Suggested cooling improvements for Zenith 601 HDS with Jabiru 3300A http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/charles.long@gm.com.05.29.2005/index.html o Main Photo Share Index http://www.matronics.com/photoshare o Submitting a Photo Share If you wish to submit a Photo Share of your own, please include the following information along with your email message and files: 1) Email List or Lists that they are related to: 2) Your Full Name: 3) Your Email Address: 4) One line Subject description: 5) Multi-line, multi-paragraph description of topic: 6) One-line Description of each photo or file: Email the information above and your files and photos to: pictures@matronics.com ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:07:40 PM PST US From: "n801bh@netzero.com" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Another bird leaves the nest! --> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" C-IDUS had her maiden flight this morning @ 8:36 AM. I did 1 circuit around the airport and came back because of cooling problems. Oil temps seem to be stable @ 228 degrees but the coolant overheated and cut short the flight. Some changes will have to be made with both rad inlets to see if the temps come down. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// Congrats to you Trevor.......... do not archive Ben Haas N801BH www.haaspowerair.com ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 06:53:49 PM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: 601 XL Paint Booth Respirator --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Dear Thread Friends, I sent the photos and story to ch601.org on hoe to make my homemade respirator. I really hope they got there because I'm not sure how to fly this damed computer. If they are all screwed up I'm sorry and contact me off thread and I will try to get them to you somehow. Best regards, Bill of Georgia ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:32:09 PM PST US From: VideoFlyer@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Flap actuator... --> Zenith-List message posted by: VideoFlyer@aol.com Hi... Since posting to the list about the DC linear actuators from Firgelli, http://www.firgelliauto.com/index.htm I have purchased one. It arrived within a few days. I think it will work fine. I purchased the 3 inch standard force one....since that's about how much stroke I need. The speed is perfect. The unit is about 7 inches long so I needed to fabricate a bracket since I needed about 15 inches to reach the arm. I have pics if you're interested. However, if you're gonna buy one of these, I have some suggestions. The reason I went with the standard force was to get the one with the 3 inch stroke. When I got the unit, of course I had to take it apart to see how it works. The limit switches inside can be moved pretty easily...just a couple of solder connections....move the switch to a new position..and solder it back in. It would be very easy to take the 6-inch or 9-inch stroke unit..and give it an effective stroke of 3 inches, simply by moving the internal limit switches. (Of course, doing so will probably void any warranty, but I don't think they come with a warranty anyway.) What you will have then, is a unit that is long enough that you don't need to build a bracket...you can make it fit by adjusting the limit switches to the position that gives you the proper "overall" length...and also the correct amount of "stroke." The high force ones are the same price as the standard force. I would get the high force one...(you can never have too much power.) So if I had to do it over again, I would get the 9 inch high force actuator, adjust the internal limit switches to give me the correct length and the stroke that I need. No bracket to make. Clear as mud? Let me know if you have questions. I think the actuators will work great. And the price is right. Dave Harms 601XL-Corvair videoflyer@aol.com ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:45 PM PST US From: Peter Dunning Subject: Zenith-List: Paint options. --> Zenith-List message posted by: Peter Dunning Hi Listers My 601 is getting closer to that time when painting is getting more consideration. I was at a local boat store recently and they mentioned a new paint called "Perfection". Sounded a bit like advertising hype at first, but the finish on a sample surface certainly looked attractive and they claimed a "spray quality" finish by using a roller. They also emphasise that good cover should be achieveable with just two coats and the finish is high gloss. "Perfection" is a two-part polyurethane product: see www.yachtpaint.com/Images/22_22077.pdf I would be very interested in receiving any comments from Listers on suitability as this seems to be an effective and hardwearing paint, not requiring spray-gear or too much expertise to apply. Tail winds Peter Dunning CH601HD/ZK-SPD ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:58:06 PM PST US From: "Randy Stout" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Paint options. --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" I used their one part polyurethane paint called Brightside on my Zodiac. Most people who have seen it don't realize that it was applied with a roller until I tell them. Details of the process are at http://www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21/PaintInterior.html Randy Stout n282rs"at"earthlink.net www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21 > [Original Message] > From: Peter Dunning > To: > Date: 5/29/2005 10:36:19 PM > Subject: Zenith-List: Paint options. > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Peter Dunning > > Hi Listers > > My 601 is getting closer to that time when painting is getting more consideration. > I was at a local boat store recently and they mentioned a new paint called > "Perfection". Sounded a bit like advertising hype at first, but the finish on a sample > surface certainly looked attractive and they claimed a "spray quality" finish by using a > roller. They also emphasise that good cover should be achieveable with just two coats > and the finish is high gloss. "Perfection" is a two-part polyurethane product: see > > www.yachtpaint.com/Images/22_22077.pdf > > I would be very interested in receiving any comments from Listers on suitability as this > seems to be an effective and hardwearing paint, not requiring spray-gear or too much > expertise to apply. > > Tail winds > > Peter Dunning > CH601HD/ZK-SPD