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1. 05:03 AM - Intercom (Zodie Rocket)
2. 07:10 AM - Re: Fuel line protection needed? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
3. 07:15 AM - Re: Fuel line protection needed? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
4. 07:16 AM - OT - Dave Austin's Supermarine Spitfire (David Barth)
5. 07:21 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: Intermittent radio noise problem (John M. Goodings)
6. 07:25 AM - Intermittent radio noise problem (John M. Goodings)
7. 07:30 AM - Re: Plans revisions (Kudos to Zenith) (The Keeners)
8. 07:37 AM - Telex Intercom Info (CH701)
9. 07:38 AM - Re: Fuel line protection needed? (jon@joncroke.com)
10. 08:19 AM - Re: Fuel line protection needed? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
11. 08:22 AM - Flight Time in a 601? (Jeffrey J Paris)
12. 12:30 PM - Intermittent noise (Zed Smith)
13. 04:00 PM - Re: Telex Intercom Info (Lee Thomas)
14. 04:20 PM - Another XL Leaves the Nest (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
15. 04:47 PM - Re: Another XL Leaves the Nest (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
16. 04:59 PM - Re: Another XL Leaves the Nest (Larry McFarland)
17. 06:05 PM - Re: Swedish Mufflers (xl)
18. 06:14 PM - Re: Another XL Leaves the Nest (Jack Russell)
19. 06:18 PM - Re: Another XL Leaves the Nest (ron dewees)
20. 08:49 PM - Re: Re: Swedish Mufflers (Jim and Lucy)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Does anyone own a Telex intercom? I'm in need of wiring information.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Fuel line protection needed? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
True but remember that you have a certified airplane here with a design
that is VERY resistant to change because the approval process with the
FAA will be very costly.
Modern day solid state pumps are extremly reliable and if you have two
you can put them in the hydraulically correct place and use autofuel
without concern for VL.
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clyde
Barcus
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel line protection needed?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net>
In the past I owned a Gulfstream American Tiger, Model AA-5B with a
Lycoming O-360-A4K, carburetor equipped with an engine driven mechanical
pump backed up by an auxiliary electric fuel pump. I am reading the POH
for the Tiger I owned in the past and the auxiliary pump was used to
provide fuel pressure redundancy during low altitude operation or as a
back up if the mechanical, engine driven pump fails. It seems to me that
they preferred to have an engine driven pump backed up by electric just
in case there was an electrical failure, the same reason they use dual
magnetos, the engine will continue to run after an electrical failure.
Up to this point I was thinking about two electric facet pumps, now I am
beginning to wonder. I guess that's what is good about the matronics
list, you read a lot and it makes you think.
Regards:
Clyde Barcus
601XL, Corvair powered
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| Subject: | Fuel line protection needed? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Great idea!
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Alberti
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuel line protection needed?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti"
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Save yourself all the worry, close the fuel cutoff and run the engine
until it quits. No fuel in the bowls and little remaining in the lines.
Dave 601HD 912ULS
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Hinde, Frank
George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuel line protection needed?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
Yes I think we just said the same thing....Just in case others missed
the point....In the real world a non back leaking pump (i.e a check
valve or a pump with a check valve built in) has not shown itself to be
a problem...I.e even if a little fuel has gotten past the carb floats I
have never noticed it.
Besides I think it goes out the float chamber vents before it can get
into the engine intake.
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim and
Lucy
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuel line protection needed?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>
At 01:28 PM 6/9/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
><frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>An uncalibrated leak back is a feature huh?..
The reason some of the facet pumps have this leak back feature is to
prevent flooding after shutdown. Picture a motorhome with the fuel tank
in the back. The fuel line runs along the frame to the engine. On a hot
day the fuel in the lines under the auto heat up and expands. The fuel
needs to go back to the tank through the small leak in the pump.
Otherwise the pressure in the line will rise up enough to unseat the
float in the carb and the fuel runs down into the intake.
There are other suitable facet pumps that do not leak back acording to
facet but I am putting a check valve in anyway for my wing tanks
Jim Pollard
Merlin Ont
Hooking up
Holley Carb
Linkage
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| Subject: | OT - Dave Austin's Supermarine Spitfire |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: David Barth <davids601xl@yahoo.com>
Gentlemen I have heard rumours that Dave Austin, Canadian 601 builder/flyer and
guru to this list has had the first flight in his Supermarine Spitfire. I have
only seen pictures and she looks to be a stunner. I have had that impression
supported by reports from friends who have seen her. Dave, I know the Spitfire
is OT to this list but I am sure we would all like to hear about your adventures.
Here is hoping. Safe Flying Dave and Congratulations!
david
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David Barth
601 XL Plansbuilder 15% done?
Working on Wings
www.ch601.org
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: Intermittent radio noise problem |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
We have an intermittent noise problem which shows up on the transceiver in
our CH601HD Zodiac. If anyone has experienced anything similar, we would
be very glad to know. Usually, the signals are very clear on both
transmit and receive. Then sometimes, not every time, we hear crackling
noise in the headsets on both transmit and receive such that we can barely
communicate with the tower. Usually it occurs when we are in the circuit,
not on the ground. Our radio equipment consists of: an ICOM A-22
transceiver; a NAT intercom; an ACK ELT; a Garmin MAP 195 GPS; a Becker
transponder with mode C; two David Clarke headsets. The antennae are: GPS
above the instrument panel; Comant VHF on top skin at back of baggage
shelf; ELT on top skin in front of the fin; transponder blade antenna on
bottom skin behind main gear. I mention all this detail because we are
wondering about possible interaction/interference of different pieces of
radio equipment. The noise does not seem to come right at the beginning
of a flight. Once it comes, it does not go away in the air. Turning off
the transponder makes no difference. The last thing to be installed was
the transponder; for a year before it was installed, we never experienced
the problem. (I realize that the transponder frequency is so different
from VHF that its interaction is unlikely.) All earth connections have
been checked; there are no obvious earth loops. Shielded wire has been
used where appropriate. One thing I am not clear about. In mounting the
Comant VHF antenna on the top skin, a hole was cut bigger than the BNC
socket on the bottom of the antenna, and there is a rubber gasket between
the antenna bottom and the top skin; i.e. the outer BNC socket is not
grounded to the skin. Is this correct? I apologize for this lengthy
dissertation! But with a problem like this, it is hard to know what is
important to put down, and what is not important. Your thoughts would be
much appreciated. The noise is driving us nuts, but the loss of
communication is a serious problem.
John and Peter Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Toronto/Waterloo (but
currently in Ottawa).
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| Subject: | Intermittent radio noise problem |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John M. Goodings" <goodings@yorku.ca>
Peter:
This is the message I sent to the Zenith List. I'll let you know what
answers I get.
Pops.
We have an intermittent noise problem which shows up on the transceiver in
our CH601HD Zodiac. If anyone has experienced anything similar, we would
be very glad to know. Usually, the signals are very clear on both
transmit and receive. Then sometimes, not every time, we hear crackling
noise in the headsets on both transmit and receive such that we can barely
communicate with the tower. Usually it occurs when we are in the circuit,
not on the ground. Our radio equipment consists of: an ICOM A-22
transceiver; a NAT intercom; an ACK ELT; a Garmin MAP 195 GPS; a Becker
transponder with mode C; two David Clarke headsets. The antennae are: GPS
above the instrument panel; Comant VHF on top skin at back of baggage
shelf; ELT on top skin in front of the fin; transponder blade antenna on
bottom skin behind main gear. I mention all this detail because we are
wondering about possible interaction/interference of different pieces of
radio equipment. The noise does not seem to come right at the beginning
of a flight. Once it comes, it does not go away in the air. Turning off
the transponder makes no difference. The last thing to be installed was
the transponder; for a year before it was installed, we never experienced
the problem. (I realize that the transponder frequency is so different
from VHF that its interaction is unlikely.) All earth connections have
been checked; there are no obvious earth loops. Shielded wire has been
used where appropriate. One thing I am not clear about. In mounting the
Comant VHF antenna on the top skin, a hole was cut bigger than the BNC
socket on the bottom of the antenna, and there is a rubber gasket between
the antenna bottom and the top skin; i.e. the outer BNC socket is not
grounded to the skin. Is this correct? I apologize for this lengthy
dissertation! But with a problem like this, it is hard to know what is
important to put down, and what is not important. Your thoughts would be
much appreciated. The noise is driving us nuts, but the loss of
communication is a serious problem.
John and Peter Goodings, C-FGPJ, CH601HD with R912S, Toronto/Waterloo (but
currently in Ottawa).
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| Subject: | Re: Plans revisions (Kudos to Zenith) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "The Keeners" <kim.forest@surewest.net>
William:
Hello... if you haven't had this answered already, just send an email (or call)
to Zenith. Tell them you need your user name/password and they will give it
to you.
I have to say that every time I've contacted the company with a question, I've
received a reply within 2 business days. Considering the popularity of their
kits, I'd say that's outstanding!
Good luck!
Forest K., Rocklin, CA
601XL Tri-Gear (N601FK Reserved)
Rudder complete/Horizontal Stab skeleton complete/adding stab skin today...
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| Subject: | Telex Intercom Info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "CH701" <701stol@gmail.com>
I have a tech sheet, schematic & installation/operation guide for a TC-200
if you need it...
Todd Henning
West Bend, WI
701stol@gmail.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Zodie Rocket
Subject: Zenith-List: Intercom
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Does anyone own a Telex intercom? I'm in need of wiring information.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Fuel line protection needed? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: jon@joncroke.com
Frank,
This begs the question:=A0 Why are they called solid state?=A0 Do they
really have NO moving parts and if so, how does the fuel get moved?=A0
Inquiring minds want to know!=A0 (I hear and feel something moving
around in there!) Thanks
> Modern day solid state pumps are extremly reliable and if you have
two
> you can put them in the hydraulically correct place and use
autofuel
> without concern for VL.
>
> Frank
>
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| Subject: | Fuel line protection needed? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Ya I wondered the same thing John, but seeing as I have never heard of
one failing I have not had the opportunity to cut one open...certainly
not going to do that with a working pump...On the other hand this should
be an indication of how reliable these things are...:)
In reality I don't thing they can be truly solid state (SS)... I "think"
what they mean by SS is that the pump has no mechanical points...In the
old days with SU brand fuel pumps on British cars you had these
mechanical points that would open/close as the plunger back and forth
switching the current to the pump coil...What God awful things these
were...If you were going to put two of these on an airplane, I would say
save your money and shoot yourself in the head...it will be quicker,
cheaper but the outcome will most likely be the same!
Anyway my guess is there is a transistor in there that acts as a solid
state switch...As I said I don't know for sure but it's a fair bet.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jon@joncroke.com
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Fuel line protection needed?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: jon@joncroke.com
Frank,
This begs the question:=A0 Why are they called solid state?=A0 Do they
really have NO moving parts and if so, how does the fuel get moved?=A0
Inquiring minds want to know!=A0 (I hear and feel something moving
around in there!) Thanks
> Modern day solid state pumps are extremly reliable and if you have
two
> you can put them in the hydraulically correct place and use
autofuel
> without concern for VL.
>
> Frank
>
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| Subject: | Flight Time in a 601? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey J Paris" <jeffrey-j-paris@excite.com>
Hello Listers,
Just a quick question for the list. Is there anyone in the Greater Rochester,
New York region who is flying a Zenith Zodiac 601? If so I would be interested
in some "stick" time and will pay you gas money in return. I am very close
to finishing my 601XL and have been getting insurance quotes... of course they
want you to fly with an instructor in the aforementioned aircraft. Sounds like
the kid fresh out of college..."we would like to hire you, BUT... you need
to get some experience first..." Assinine to say the least. I have one hour in
the 601 with Roger Doubert from the Mexico, MO factory in 2002.
Just thought I would throw it out there and see what would happen. Thank you all
for your time and consideration.
Jeff Paris
N196ZP Ch601 XL Jab 3300
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| Subject: | Intermittent noise |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
John,
Since the noise is there when NOT transmitting I would venture that it is not related
to the antenna or RF.
Audio connections are the most likely place to look.
Comm radio rear connector, audio panel/intercom connections, mic & headset(ears)
jacks, etc.
Stranded shielded wire is great as long as none of the strands of the center conductor
are making contact somewhere else. Likewise, the strands of the shield
need all be separate from places not intended.
That said, I'm guessing that since the transponder was added later then you, or
whoever installed it, has tugged a bit too much on the existing wiring. You
may have just one little hair of a wire hanging out where it shouldn't & it touches
something it shouldn't.
Beats me why it waits til the engine/water/oil temp gets up.....you using EIS engine
monitor?
Got a sender making noise after it warms up? Flap motor limit switch not turning
motor off at full up or full down?
Bomb bay doors not fully closed? Radar altimeter that only works at pattern altitude?
Also, is there a VOX involved? Disable VOX feature for testing.
Any ham radio operator worth his plastic pocket protector might loan you a 50 Ohm
dummy load. Just disconnect the BNC from the comm antenna and stick it on
the load. You'll still have short range comm, real short, but it'll suffice for
determining if the comm antenna is a problem. If this isn't a towered field
you could just fly around with the dummy for an antenna until you determine
the fate of your comm antenna. And, yes, the coax shield/outer shell of the BNC
should be at RF ground at the base of a typical quarter-wave vertical antenna.
There is a school of thought wherein all shields should only be grounded at one
end, and all grounds connected to one point. You mention that this has been
checked. If you had outside help on the transponder installation, might see what
they did in this regard. Still doesn't account for part-time noise.
I once made a list of the "1000 Most Common Radio Problems" but it started with
"Is the unit TURNED ON?".
It was aimed at Southern rural law enforcement, so doesn't apply here. Number
308 was, "Is the unit TURNED ON?". Obviously yours is, so best of luck.
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/still working
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| Subject: | Telex Intercom Info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lee Thomas" <cltvet@mail.ocis.net>
Would also like to have a copy. Would it be possible to photocopy them.
Would gladly reimburse you for your trouble.
Lee Thomas,
Chase BC., Canada
701 scratch building -95% finished
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CH701
Subject: Zenith-List: Telex Intercom Info
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "CH701" <701stol@gmail.com>
I have a tech sheet, schematic & installation/operation guide for a TC-200
if you need it...
Todd Henning
West Bend, WI
701stol@gmail.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Zodie Rocket
Subject: Zenith-List: Intercom
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Does anyone own a Telex intercom? I'm in need of wiring information.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Another XL Leaves the Nest |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, my passion for the last 3 years and only 400 hours
construction time flew today for the first time. The test pilot said it flew like
a
"sweetheart'. About 45 minutes, total; slow flight, power on/off stalls,
Cuban 8s, etc, and it handled smooth and honest. He reported 150 mph and 1500
fpm
climb. We weighed it again with digital scales and it was 10 pounds pounds
lighter at 782. Landings all the way to mid 40's with flaps. I tore her apart
afterward to try to find out why it didn't crash and found no problems. Seems
to me it might do. N505WP was born today and frankly I was not as worried,
upset and concerned at the birth of my own two children, what's her name and
Buddy, as I was today. Best Regards, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | Another XL Leaves the Nest |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Wonderful Bill, good job,
Now tell me just how accuratly you measured those 400 hours?...My HDS
took 950!
All the best
Frank
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Another XL Leaves the Nest
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, my passion for the last 3 years and only 400 hours
construction time flew today for the first time. The test pilot said it
flew like a "sweetheart'. About 45 minutes, total; slow flight, power
on/off stalls, Cuban 8s, etc, and it handled smooth and honest. He
reported 150 mph and 1500 fpm climb. We weighed it again with digital
scales and it was 10 pounds pounds lighter at 782. Landings all the way
to mid 40's with flaps. I tore her apart afterward to try to find out
why it didn't crash and found no problems. Seems to me it might do.
N505WP was born today and frankly I was not as worried, upset and
concerned at the birth of my own two children, what's her name and
Buddy, as I was today. Best Regards, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Another XL Leaves the Nest |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Bill,
Very pleased to see your XL launch from the nest. You've got to be
excited. Do fill us in on the rest of your data and specs when you
have the time.
Congratulations and well done!
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
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JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>Dear Thread Friends, my passion for the last 3 years and only 400 hours
>construction time flew today for the first time. The test pilot said it flew like
a
>"sweetheart'. About 45 minutes, total; slow flight, power on/off stalls,
>Cuban 8s, etc, and it handled smooth and honest. He reported 150 mph and 1500
fpm
>climb. We weighed it again with digital scales and it was 10 pounds pounds
>lighter at 782. Landings all the way to mid 40's with flaps. I tore her apart
>afterward to try to find out why it didn't crash and found no problems. Seems
>to me it might do. N505WP was born today and frankly I was not as worried,
>upset and concerned at the birth of my own two children, what's her name and
>Buddy, as I was today. Best Regards, Bill of Georgia
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Swedish Mufflers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: xl <xl@prosody.org>
I used the same subject as the earlier related posts to help
keep this thread together in the archive.
I've flown a bit over 100 hours with the mufflers.
(search the zenith-list archive (using 'swiss muffler')
for a description of the muffler construction).
The mufflers are still working well.
I did replace the galvanized mesh, that I originally used, with
1/8" 316 stainless mesh (cost was about $100, www.rungindustries.com).
The galvanized mesh was slowly going away as expected. I considered
replacing the aluminum tubes with stainless steel but when I reread
the Bingelis article I realized that aluminum is typically used.
There is some corrosion at the front of the tubes but it will
take a few+ more years for it to compromise the tubing. I can
replace the tubes in a few hours when needed. The mufflers are
very accessable + visible for inspection.
I've gotten lots of comments at flyins and at my home field
such as: 'I'm impressed with how quiet your plane is.'
And some climb underneath for a closer look.
Joe E
N633Z @ BFI
203 hours
Jabiru 3300, Sensenich wood prop 64X48
http://www.cleanh2o.com/633z/
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> Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2005 09:14:00 -0600
> From: Paul Hartl <paulhartl@cox.net>
> To: xl@prosody.org
> Subject: 601 mufflers
> Hi Joe,
> I'm in the finishing stages of my Jabiru-powered HDS out here in Sun
> Valley, Idaho, and just had a major screw-up on having the tailpipes
> welded to the muffler (Jabiru supplied). I remember your bad
> experience with Jab mufflers and the great info and photos you supplied
> on the web (which I downloaded then) and am very seriously considering
> following your lead. But before I go ahead, I thought I'd ask how well
> they have held up and if you like them?
>
> Thanks,Paul
>
> P.S. Others on the Zenith Matronics list might like to know how your
> Swedish/Swiss mufflers are doing, too, since the price for a Jabiru
> muffler (now pre-welded to the tailpipes) is $450!
> Paul Hartl, 601HDS, Jabiru 3300, finishing stages
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Bill of Georgia: It was great fun following along with your progress. Hope be there
soon. Congrats, Jack in Clovis Ca
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JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
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Dear Thread Friends, my passion for the last 3 years and only 400 hours
construction time flew today for the first time. The test pilot said it flew like
a
"sweetheart'. About 45 minutes, total; slow flight, power on/off stalls,
Cuban 8s, etc, and it handled smooth and honest. He reported 150 mph and 1500 fpm
climb. We weighed it again with digital scales and it was 10 pounds pounds
lighter at 782. Landings all the way to mid 40's with flaps. I tore her apart
afterward to try to find out why it didn't crash and found no problems. Seems
to me it might do. N505WP was born today and frankly I was not as worried,
upset and concerned at the birth of my own two children, what's her name and
Buddy, as I was today. Best Regards, Bill of Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Jim,
That's Great! So glad to hear the flight went so well. I knew you
would be pleased and sure sounds like you have reason to be happy.
Can't wait till you can head up my way and we can swap rides and fly
some loose formation. Get a lot of rest and wait till all the pressure
is off and enjoy your first flight in the left seat.
Ron
N601TD
I'm posting your great news on our own local BBS: Atl-Fly@yahoogroups.com
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JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>Dear Thread Friends, my passion for the last 3 years and only 400 hours
>construction time flew today for the first time. The test pilot said it flew like
a
>"sweetheart'. About 45 minutes, total; slow flight, power on/off stalls,
>Cuban 8s, etc, and it handled smooth and honest. He reported 150 mph and 1500
fpm
>climb. We weighed it again with digital scales and it was 10 pounds pounds
>lighter at 782. Landings all the way to mid 40's with flaps. I tore her apart
>afterward to try to find out why it didn't crash and found no problems. Seems
>to me it might do. N505WP was born today and frankly I was not as worried,
>upset and concerned at the birth of my own two children, what's her name and
>Buddy, as I was today. Best Regards, Bill of Georgia
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>
At 09:03 PM 6/10/2005, you wrote:
>stainless mesh (cost was about $100, www.rungindustries.com).
I think rungindustries needs to do a little work on their website.
Jim Pollard
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