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1. 04:44 AM - fly-in Question (Zodie Rocket)
2. 05:44 AM - "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art" (Zed Smith)
3. 08:03 AM - Re: Fuel tank testing (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
4. 08:10 AM - x-plane for 601 (Bob Miller)
5. 08:11 AM - Help a member out (Zodie Rocket)
6. 08:11 AM - Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
7. 08:13 AM - 601 with jabiru (Bob Miller)
8. 08:42 AM - Jabiru engine seminar (Bob Miller)
9. 09:24 AM - Re: Fuel tank testing (Leo Corbalis)
10. 09:24 AM - Re: 601 with jabiru (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
11. 09:25 AM - Re: 601 with jabiru (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
12. 10:10 AM - Re: Fuel tank testing ()
13. 10:37 AM - Re: Fuel tank testing (Leo Corbalis)
14. 10:59 AM - Re: x-plane for 601 (Trevor Page)
15. 12:21 PM - Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender (Pete Krotje)
16. 12:36 PM - Hangers (Robert Schoenberger)
17. 12:41 PM - Re: 601 with jabiru (Bob Miller)
18. 12:50 PM - Re: x-plane for 601 (Bob Miller)
19. 12:59 PM - Re: Hangers (Lance Gingell)
20. 01:25 PM - Re: Hangers (Larry McFarland)
21. 02:03 PM - Re: Hangers (Trevor Page)
22. 02:09 PM - Re: Hangers (Frank Roskind)
23. 02:24 PM - Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
24. 07:07 PM - Re: fly-in Question (Martin Boulerice, ing., flight instructor)
25. 07:29 PM - Re: x-plane for 601 (ron dewees)
26. 08:06 PM - Re: Hangers (NYTerminat@aol.com)
27. 09:12 PM - Google Maps (Dave & Darlene)
28. 10:01 PM - Fuel Leak (tinerj@tinerj.com)
29. 10:03 PM - Re: "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art" (Steve Hulland)
30. 10:25 PM - Re: Google Maps (Rob Campbell)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Michel Therrien or Grant Corriveau a quick Question, when is the
Sherbrooke Fly-in.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
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| Subject: | "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art" |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
For those who have not yet had the opportunity to see the latest release from Hollywood-of-the-North:
Start making plans to attend the Awards Ceremony!
Emmy, Grammy, Tony, Star on the Sidewalk, Hall of Fame?
This may replace "Gone With The Wind" as a classic.
With Jon's DVD anybody with sufficient mechanical inclination to operate a funnel
can install a Rotax 912.
For those who have read, and re-read, the Rotax manuals and are still somewhat
confused, Jon makes it easy.
Highly recommended! I've installed same 912 on two aircraft and this would have
saved several miles of walking around the plane just looking to see where things
are located. Well worth the price of tired feet.
Jon actually kicks the tires and lights the fire. You get to see a 912 run, with
a dude (Jon), standing in the propwash while adjusting carbs. There is even
mention of "things to avoid" so that the number of landings at the airport equals
the number of takeoffs from same (the chapter entitled Throttle 101).
Fortunately it comes in a plain wrapper.....wouldn't look good for the mail carrier
to see the hot pink label proclaiming the movie name, "How To Make Wind (and
Other Hangar Tales)".
Good show, Jon!
The preceeding was an unpaid non-political endorsement not affiliated with anything.
do not archive
Zed/701/R912/work in progress
P.S. Look closley in the background of the movie......is that a spigot and gages
mounted on side of refrigerator?
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank testing |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Jeff, our hearts and minds go out to you ! But just think, in the whole
world you may be the most experienced and knowledgeable fellow there is when
it comes to opening up wings and fixing leaks ! Something to think about ? And
only by the grace of God go all of us. Bear with it cause the outcome is worth
the effort, Best regards, Bill in Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
has anybody modelled a 601 on X-plane?
I've tried using the 601 model for Flight Simulator 2004, but for some
reason am not getting the close performance to a 601 that others
report. In fact, mine on FS2004 acts more like a 172 with a 300 HP
engine and a 12:1 glide.
Rumor has it that X-Plane is a superior program for actually simulating flight.
Any experience?
I sure would like to save some money on dual if possible!
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
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| Subject: | Help a member out |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Hi Folks
Many of you know of Art Mitchell as the previous owner of Flypass in
Canada and as the fellow you could always call when you had a question
about your Zenith aircraft. Art now works for Mission Aviation
Fellowship and is frantically arranging an Aviation Fair at Guelph
Airport ( in Ontario, Canada) this coming Saturday between 10-4.
Unfortunately he is having problems arranging help to guide planes and
people plus he needs more planes to show up! So I'm asking that if
anyone in flying distance or driving distance could show up to lend a
hand to Art as he has done for many of you over the years of building.
Those who fly-in are guaranteed a free burger, so are any volunteers who
would help in the crowd control. There is also a Zenith announcement at
this show, come there and be the first to know.
Mark
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, I have mentioned before how my oil press reads high at
max rev. Talked to the fine folks at Jab Tn yesterday and he confirmed that the
sender unit that comes on the 3300 is not compatible with the early VDO gauge
sold be ZAC in their FWF kit. Further that a replacement could be purchased
at NAPA possibly. Anybody out there in airplane world know the part number for
this VDO compatible sender unit ? Thanks, Bill in Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Is there anyone within driving distance of central virginia that has a
601 with a Jabiru engine that I could come look at? I'm having some
difficulty getting my cowl to fit, and would like to see somebody
else's set up in general.
Thanks,
Bob
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
(Who will someday have one YOU can come look at IF I finish it before
the onset of Alzheimer's.)
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| Subject: | Jabiru engine seminar |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Is anyone planning on attending the August 4 & 5 Jabiru engine
seminar? I live in central virginia and would be interested in
sharing a ride (air or ground).
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
434-760-2928
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank testing |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
I sloshed my wing tanks with Randolph's #912 (alcohol resistant). poured in
the whole can,sealed it up and turned it every which way and then poured it
out. Stored them in the garage rafters in the summertime. No seeps. I had
the same concern about viscosity.Yes I pressure checked them first.
Leo Corbalis
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel tank testing
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Dear Thread Friends, when we are talking about a possible leak from a fuel
> tank we have heard about using water and diesel fuel, air pressure and
> rubbers,
> soap and what not for testing tanks. Frankly, it is possible because of
> the
> viscosity of mo-gas all the way up to 100 octane which is so small
> compared to
> other fluids, that a tank could have a weak seal that would seep gasoline
> that
> water, nor diesel would show or air to be noticeable. Consider this
> scenario:
> you have tested a tank, thinking it fine because of a flawed test,
> installed,
> front nose skin riveted closed, painted wing, wired and mounted on the
> fuselage when the first time you put high octane fuel in the tank and you
> start
> smelling the fumes?? What would that cost in time, effort and money to you
> as the
> builder? The prudent builder should want to test any subsystem as close to
> actual use as possible before assembly. FWIW, Best of luck, Bill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601 with jabiru |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: 601 with jabiru |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Bob, you are welcome to see my Jab, course driving here may be a beast but I
think we could put you up for the night. best regards, Bill in Georgia
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank testing |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on apophis.email.starband.net
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <jeffglass@starband.net>
Thanks Bill, It ain't over yet! We sloshed the tank with a special sealer
that will take a few days to dry. What's different about this sealer is
that the bond it creates can be broken by applying heat. I was worried
that if the transducer leak wasn't sealed I wouldn't be able to get it out
again. I'll keep the list posted on my saga. In any even, if I had to do
it all over again I would use electronic transducers (either capacitance
or resistance)instead of the mechanical type. Upon research (ACS catalog)
the prices were about the same.
Jeff Glasserow
CH601 HDS
N6384E
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Dear Jeff, our hearts and minds go out to you ! But just think, in the
> whole world you may be the most experienced and knowledgeable fellow
> there is when it comes to opening up wings and fixing leaks ! Something
> to think about ? And only by the grace of God go all of us. Bear with
> it cause the outcome is worth the effort, Best regards, Bill in Georgia
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank testing |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
Low viscosity seepage
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis"
> <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I sloshed my wing tanks with Randolph's #912 (alcohol resistant). poured
> in
> the whole can,sealed it up and turned it every which way and then poured
> it
> out. Stored them in the garage rafters in the summertime. No seeps. I had
> the same concern about viscosity.Yes I pressure checked them first.
>
> Leo Corbalis
>
>P.S. I installed a fine filter on the outlet of each wing tank. Any
>shedding of the slosh coating will be immediately detected and an alternate
>airport selected. I only fill the wing tanks when necessary. I have a 16
>gal. main tank.
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| Subject: | Re: x-plane for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Bob, X-Plane is a superior flight simulator in the real sense of the
term. MS FS2004 is a GAME.
aeronautical engineer by trade.
I would love to have a 601 model for X-Plane and I just might sit
down someday and create one. The planemaker tools however are not
very intuitive and vert tedious to use but the end result is a REAL
and accurate simulation of the input.
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD
On 14-Jun-05, at 11:05 AM, Bob Miller wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
>
> has anybody modelled a 601 on X-plane?
> I've tried using the 601 model for Flight Simulator 2004, but for some
> reason am not getting the close performance to a 601 that others
> report. In fact, mine on FS2004 acts more like a 172 with a 300 HP
> engine and a 12:1 glide.
> Rumor has it that X-Plane is a superior program for actually
> simulating flight.
> Any experience?
> I sure would like to save some money on dual if possible!
> --
> Bob Miller
> 601HD N722Z
> Charlottesville, Virginia
>
>
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| Subject: | Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje" <pkrotje@athenet.net>
VDO 360003
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, I have mentioned before how my oil press reads high at
max rev. Talked to the fine folks at Jab Tn yesterday and he confirmed that
the sender unit that comes on the 3300 is not compatible with the early VDO
gauge sold be ZAC in their FWF kit. Further that a replacement could be
purchased at NAPA possibly. Anybody out there in airplane world know the
part number for this VDO compatible sender unit ? Thanks, Bill in Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
List . . . there is a significant shortage of hanger space in the upstate NY area.
I am considering the economics of constructing a grass strip with rental
hangers for ultralites, sport planes, and the smaller GA single engine craft such
as the J3, Aeronca, etc.
In order to cut down on the economic investigation time, does anyone on the list
from personal experience have some hanger and door manufacturers that they can
recommend, cost of the product, etc.? Also what would you consider a practical
runway length for a grass strip serving this type of aircraft? This is assuming
the runway will be east / west, the direction of the prevailing wind.
Do you know of any literature which will help in evaluating and designing such
a project.?
Thanks for any help you can give. If you want to contact me off list, the email
is hrs1@frontiernet.net. Robert Schoenberger 701 wings & tail done, working
on the fus.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 601 with jabiru |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Jim,
Many thanks. That's about a 7 hour drive for me, but if I can't find
anything closer I may show up! Thanks for the offer of putting me
up--my brother in law lives in Marietta, which can't be far from you?
Bob
On 6/14/05, JAPhillipsGA@aol.com <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: x-plane for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Trev,
Yes, that is congruent with what I've heard.
This would be a very valuable resource for us. Based on how much time
it might take for you to develop, what might it cost me to pay you to
develop one for my 601 HD with an 85 hp Jabiru engine? It might
save me enough money on dual (no, not as a replacement for dual
instruction but as a supplement) that it would be worthwhile. Then
maybe we/I could recoup by offering the model to others on the list
for a monetary donation.
Any thoughts, responses would be very welcome. Thanks for getting back
to me already.
Bob
On 6/14/05, Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
>
> Bob, X-Plane is a superior flight simulator in the real sense of the
> term. MS FS2004 is a GAME.
> aeronautical engineer by trade.
>
> I would love to have a 601 model for X-Plane and I just might sit
> down someday and create one. The planemaker tools however are not
> very intuitive and vert tedious to use but the end result is a REAL
> and accurate simulation of the input.
>
> Trev Page
> C-IDUS 601HD
>
> On 14-Jun-05, at 11:05 AM, Bob Miller wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
> >
> > has anybody modelled a 601 on X-plane?
> > I've tried using the 601 model for Flight Simulator 2004, but for some
> > reason am not getting the close performance to a 601 that others
> > report. In fact, mine on FS2004 acts more like a 172 with a 300 HP
> > engine and a 12:1 glide.
> > Rumor has it that X-Plane is a superior program for actually
> > simulating flight.
> > Any experience?
> > I sure would like to save some money on dual if possible!
> > --
> > Bob Miller
> > 601HD N722Z
> > Charlottesville, Virginia
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
While looking at hangars for my airpark house (which is in the planning
stage), I found:
www.asibuildings.com ASI
www.aviationbuildingsystem.com R & M steel
Most folks here on the airpark have one or other of those, and there is
one Miracle Truss (miracletruss.com), one Butler.
ASI were particularly helpful.
Finding someone to erect them is half the problem I think!
..lance
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Schoenberger
Subject: Zenith-List: Hangers
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
--> <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
List . . . there is a significant shortage of hanger space in the
upstate NY area. I am considering the economics of constructing a grass
strip with rental hangers for ultralites, sport planes, and the smaller
GA single engine craft such as the J3, Aeronca, etc.
In order to cut down on the economic investigation time, does anyone on
the list from personal experience have some hanger and door
manufacturers that they can recommend, cost of the product, etc.? Also
what would you consider a practical runway length for a grass strip
serving this type of aircraft? This is assuming the runway will be east
/ west, the direction of the prevailing wind. Do you know of any
literature which will help in evaluating and designing such a project.?
Thanks for any help you can give. If you want to contact me off list,
the email is hrs1@frontiernet.net. Robert Schoenberger 701 wings &
tail done, working on the fus.
Do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Bob,
I'd recommend you look into the state requirements, if there are any,
because here in Illinois the state requires minimums of 100 ft width,
2200 ft length and Code for buildings that are used for commercial
storage. This wouldn't deter me from doing what you describe, but
remember you have to find someone to mow the stuff and usually the day
you want to fly, you're going to be on the tractor pulling a mowing
rig. The best opportunities are where you put together a neighborhood
strip and the residents that live adjacent to the properties buy in with
the stipulations of usage and minimum house/property
footage and quality etc. Housing is easier to sell today. We've got an
abundance of hangars and runways in Illinois and the ones sharing
housing would seem best equipped to get the mowing done.
Larry McFarland.
do not archive
Robert Schoenberger wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
>
>List . . . there is a significant shortage of hanger space in the upstate NY area.
I am considering the economics of constructing a grass strip with rental
hangers for ultralites, sport planes, and the smaller GA single engine craft
such as the J3, Aeronca, etc.
>
>In order to cut down on the economic investigation time, does anyone on the list
from personal experience have some hanger and door manufacturers that they
can recommend, cost of the product, etc.? Also what would you consider a practical
runway length for a grass strip serving this type of aircraft? This is
assuming the runway will be east / west, the direction of the prevailing wind.
Do you know of any literature which will help in evaluating and designing such
a project.?
>
>Thanks for any help you can give. If you want to contact me off list, the email
is hrs1@frontiernet.net. Robert Schoenberger 701 wings & tail done, working
on the fus.
>Do not archive
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Rob, our local club is in the process of designing a homemade wood
hangar that will fit a multitude of airplanes.
We have built 2 of them so far. The one I am occupying is for a
taildragger and the overhang was intentionally short so the nose of
my plane sticks out.
If you go look at the Zenith site under the recent 601 gallery you
will see a picture of it behind my plane.
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/pic05/t-page2.jpg
Our design criteria for the hangars are:
1. Ease of construction
2. As inexpensive as possible (we've built 2 of them for about $1K
CND each and that includes tin roofing.
3. Quick to assemble
Right now, neither of them have doors however since ginseng farming
is very popular in our area we have access to a lot of the screening
fabric used to shelter the stuff from the sun. We might use some of
it as "curtains" and cover the whole front of the structure. We have
sucessfully used the material to cover a 50' opening on a large
quonset building. Cheap and effective. The first one took about 2
weeks to build, the second one about 3 days.
If things work out really well we will make up some formal drawings
and make them available for minimal cost on the www.upac.ca website.
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD
On 14-Jun-05, at 3:26 PM, Robert Schoenberger wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
> <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
>
> List . . . there is a significant shortage of hanger space in the
> upstate NY area. I am considering the economics of constructing a
> grass strip with rental hangers for ultralites, sport planes, and
> the smaller GA single engine craft such as the J3, Aeronca, etc.
>
> In order to cut down on the economic investigation time, does
> anyone on the list from personal experience have some hanger and
> door manufacturers that they can recommend, cost of the product,
> etc.? Also what would you consider a practical runway length for a
> grass strip serving this type of aircraft? This is assuming the
> runway will be east / west, the direction of the prevailing wind.
> Do you know of any literature which will help in evaluating and
> designing such a project.?
>
> Thanks for any help you can give. If you want to contact me off
> list, the email is hrs1@frontiernet.net. Robert Schoenberger 701
> wings & tail done, working on the fus.
> Do not archive
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Frank Roskind" <frankroskind@hotmail.com>
Try downloading AC 150/5300-13 at the www.faa.gov . I tried and it takes a
long time to download.
As an alternative consider buying an existing airport. I have seen a few in
upstate NY listed on various websites, for what appear to me to be modest
prices (less than $300,000) buying an existing airport would reduce your
zoning problems
From: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Hangers
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
<hrs1@frontiernet.net>
List . . . there is a significant shortage of hanger space in the upstate NY
area. I am considering the economics of constructing a grass strip with
rental hangers for ultralites, sport planes, and the smaller GA single
engine craft such as the J3, Aeronca, etc.
In order to cut down on the economic investigation time, does anyone on the
list from personal experience have some hanger and door manufacturers that
they can recommend, cost of the product, etc.? Also what would you consider
a practical runway length for a grass strip serving this type of aircraft?
This is assuming the runway will be east / west, the direction of the
prevailing wind. Do you know of any literature which will help in evaluating
and designing such a project.?
Thanks for any help you can give. If you want to contact me off list, the
email is hrs1@frontiernet.net. Robert Schoenberger 701 wings & tail done,
working on the fus.
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Thanks Pete, Best Regards, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: fly-in Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Boulerice, ing., flight instructor"
<flying@videotron.ca>
Since Michel nor Grant replied yet, I will speak up...
"Les faucheurs de marguerites", the Sherbrooke Fly-in, will be held on
June 25 & 26, 2005.
Martin
Zodie Rocket wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
>Michel Therrien or Grant Corriveau a quick Question, when is the
>Sherbrooke Fly-in.
>
>Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
>Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
>President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
>www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: x-plane for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Bob,
I just wanted to toss my two cents worth and am sure I will upset some
folks. It would be nice to see realistic performance on a computer
model and fly it on rainy days, etc, but my experience with the HD/S
suggests it just isn't that remarkable a plane in terms of its
handling. If you can confidantly fly a C152 I think you will do just
fine. If you get it out of rig, have a very wild CG, or under or
overpowered it may be more of a challenge, but that would not be
apparant from flying any simulator. Even the higher performance HDS
or XL models with the potential for higher speeds are well -mannered
unless you get terribly hamfisted or awfully agressive on the
stick(s). I couldn't find a HDS taildragger within 3 states of here
and the factory doesn't support them any longer but mine was a real
pussycat in grounhandling manners. It's great to be prepared for the
worst, but I think you will be very happy and there won't be any
surprises if you follow the plans and use the EAA tech counselor program
If you have any doubts at all about the plane or your skills, get a
competent test pilot to make the first flight. I am sure Jim Phillips
will agree with this point. It's a lot better to settle down a bit
after the momentus first flight is out of the way and then take your
proud papa flights.
Good luck
Ron
N601TD 80 hours.
Bob Miller wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
>
>Trev,
>Yes, that is congruent with what I've heard.
>This would be a very valuable resource for us. Based on how much time
>it might take for you to develop, what might it cost me to pay you to
>develop one for my 601 HD with an 85 hp Jabiru engine? It might
>save me enough money on dual (no, not as a replacement for dual
>instruction but as a supplement) that it would be worthwhile. Then
>maybe we/I could recoup by offering the model to others on the list
>for a monetary donation.
>
>Any thoughts, responses would be very welcome. Thanks for getting back
>to me already.
>Bob
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Robert,
You are where I was late last year. I am also in upstate NY. I cleared some
property and made a 1300 ft grass strip. Grass is finally coming in with the
rain and heat we have been getting. Not the most ideal setup (power lines to the
East and tall trees to the West. But I am also building a 701 and a hanger. I
am currently building a 42 x 36 pole barn style hanger. I have looked at many
hanger doors, the best one that I liked was Hydroswing ( Hydroswing.com) but
too expensive. I will eventually build my own to match the Hydroswing door.
For now I am going with two large sliding doors for economics sake. Another site
to check out is cool-airinc.com. They have several styles of manually
operated doors that are a little more reasonable.
Where in NY are you located? Did you live in L. I. at some time? I knew
someone in the flooring business with the same name as yours. You can contact me
off list if you need any further info.
Bob Spudis
CH 701 912S wings, elevator, rudder done, working on fuselage waiting for
engine mount to install firewall. Hanger waiting for trusses
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
For those of you that haven't heard check out Googlemaps.com
Type in any location and also have a look at a satelite view. Kind of neat.
Dave
Alberta
601XL
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com" <tinerj@tinerj.com>
But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
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| Subject: | Re: "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art" |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
Interesting, how do I get a copy of this movie?
Steve H.
On 6/14/05, Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>
> For those who have not yet had the opportunity to see the latest release
> from Hollywood-of-the-North:
> Start making plans to attend the Awards Ceremony!
> Emmy, Grammy, Tony, Star on the Sidewalk, Hall of Fame?
> This may replace "Gone With The Wind" as a classic.
>
> With Jon's DVD anybody with sufficient mechanical inclination to operate a
> funnel can install a Rotax 912.
>
> For those who have read, and re-read, the Rotax manuals and are still
> somewhat confused, Jon makes it easy.
>
> Highly recommended! I've installed same 912 on two aircraft and this would
> have saved several miles of walking around the plane just looking to see
> where things are located. Well worth the price of tired feet.
>
> Jon actually kicks the tires and lights the fire. You get to see a 912
> run, with a dude (Jon), standing in the propwash while adjusting carbs.
> There is even mention of "things to avoid" so that the number of landings at
> the airport equals the number of takeoffs from same (the chapter entitled
> Throttle 101).
>
> Fortunately it comes in a plain wrapper.....wouldn't look good for the
> mail carrier to see the hot pink label proclaiming the movie name, "How To
> Make Wind (and Other Hangar Tales)".
>
> Good show, Jon!
>
> The preceeding was an unpaid non-political endorsement not affiliated with
> anything.
>
> do not archive
>
> Zed/701/R912/work in progress
>
> P.S. Look closley in the background of the movie......is that a spigot and
> gages mounted on side of refrigerator?
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rob Campbell <1global@adelphia.net>
It's at maps.google.com and it's really quite interesting! Thanks
for the tip.
Rob
On Jun 14, 2005, at 10:18 PM, Dave & Darlene wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave & Darlene"
> <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
>
> For those of you that haven't heard check out Googlemaps.com
> Type in any location and also have a look at a satelite view. Kind
> of neat.
>
> Dave
> Alberta
> 601XL
>
> DO NOT POST
>
>
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