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1. 12:31 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 06/14/05 (Grant Corriveau)
2. 03:14 AM - Re: (Tommy Walker)
3. 03:29 AM - Re: "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art" (CH701)
4. 04:08 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 06/14/05 (Zodie Rocket)
5. 04:59 AM - Re: Google Maps (Bob Miller)
6. 05:18 AM - Re: fly-in Question (Michel Therrien)
7. 06:06 AM - maps.google.com (Don Mountain)
8. 06:08 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Larry McFarland)
9. 06:37 AM - My new hanger. (Gig Giacona)
10. 06:37 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Cliff Martin)
11. 07:14 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Randy Culp)
12. 07:21 AM - Visit to William Wynne's facility last month (Randy Culp)
13. 08:26 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Leo Gates)
14. 08:39 AM - Re: Hangers (Robert Schoenberger)
15. 08:47 AM - Re: My new hanger. (N5SL)
16. 09:27 AM - Re: Vapor Lock problem (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
17. 10:22 AM - Re: My new hanger. (Jack Russell)
18. 10:28 AM - Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender (Gary Gower)
19. 11:28 AM - MAPS (Richard Hutson)
20. 11:46 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Gary Gower)
21. 11:58 AM - Re: Fuel Leak (Larry McFarland)
22. 01:09 PM - Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
23. 03:30 PM - Re: x-plane for 601 (Bob Miller)
24. 06:44 PM - Re: Jabiru engine seminar (Mark Stauffer)
25. 10:10 PM - CH640-V-11 Drawing errors? (Brian Walker)
26. 11:37 PM - Re: Hangers (NYTerminat@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 06/14/05 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Since Michel nor Grant replied yet, I will speak up...
>
> "Les faucheurs de marguerites", the Sherbrooke Fly-in, will be held on
> June 25 & 26, 2005.
>
> Martin
Thanks Martin,
I'll be busy getting ready to move so probably won't make it this year --
but who knows. This weekend I'm hoping to take my first real cross-country
flight in GHTF to Guelph to help Art with the AirFair day over there...
--
Grant Corriveau
GHTF/601hds
Volunteer Area Representative - Montreal
Mission Aviation Fellowship
grantc@ca.inter.net
www.mafc.org
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List: |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
10:03:00 PM PST US From: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com> Subject:
Re: "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art"
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland
<marinegunner@gmail.com>
Interesting, how do I get a copy of this movie?
Steve H.
I think you can find it at http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Tommy Walker in Alabama
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| Subject: | "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art" |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "CH701" <701stol@gmail.com>
Steve,
Here's the link to all of Jon's DVD projects:
http://www.homebuilthelp.com/
Todd
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Steve
Hulland
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: "Video Jon, Raiser of the Lost Art"
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
Interesting, how do I get a copy of this movie?
Steve H.
On 6/14/05, Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>
> For those who have not yet had the opportunity to see the latest release
> from Hollywood-of-the-North:
> Start making plans to attend the Awards Ceremony!
> Emmy, Grammy, Tony, Star on the Sidewalk, Hall of Fame?
> This may replace "Gone With The Wind" as a classic.
>
> With Jon's DVD anybody with sufficient mechanical inclination to operate a
> funnel can install a Rotax 912.
>
> For those who have read, and re-read, the Rotax manuals and are still
> somewhat confused, Jon makes it easy.
>
> Highly recommended! I've installed same 912 on two aircraft and this would
> have saved several miles of walking around the plane just looking to see
> where things are located. Well worth the price of tired feet.
>
> Jon actually kicks the tires and lights the fire. You get to see a 912
> run, with a dude (Jon), standing in the propwash while adjusting carbs.
> There is even mention of "things to avoid" so that the number of landings
at
> the airport equals the number of takeoffs from same (the chapter entitled
> Throttle 101).
>
> Fortunately it comes in a plain wrapper.....wouldn't look good for the
> mail carrier to see the hot pink label proclaiming the movie name, "How To
> Make Wind (and Other Hangar Tales)".
>
> Good show, Jon!
>
> The preceeding was an unpaid non-political endorsement not affiliated with
> anything.
>
> do not archive
>
> Zed/701/R912/work in progress
>
> P.S. Look closley in the background of the movie......is that a spigot and
> gages mounted on side of refrigerator?
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 06/14/05 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Grant, , when you get here I want to buy you a coffee, IF you need
anything, Ride or whatever just call me on my cell at 519-590-7601
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Grant
Corriveau
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 06/14/05
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Since Michel nor Grant replied yet, I will speak up...
>
> "Les faucheurs de marguerites", the Sherbrooke Fly-in, will be held on
> June 25 & 26, 2005.
>
> Martin
Thanks Martin,
I'll be busy getting ready to move so probably won't make it this year
--
but who knows. This weekend I'm hoping to take my first real
cross-country
flight in GHTF to Guelph to help Art with the AirFair day over there...
--
Grant Corriveau
GHTF/601hds
Volunteer Area Representative - Montreal
Mission Aviation Fellowship
grantc@ca.inter.net
www.mafc.org
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Dave,
Thanks for the tip. That is amazing, and amazingly fast.
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
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| Subject: | Re: fly-in Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michel Therrien <mtherr@yahoo.com>
Sorry for not caching the message or answering.... I
just moved to a new house last weekend and I don't
have internet access (or tv cable) yet at home... so,
I cannot follow the activity on the list as I used to
do. We are still very busy at home setting up
everything and it seems that we'll be so for many
months to come!
I do intend to fly to Les Faucheurs de Marguerites at
least one of the two days.
Michel
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--- "Martin Boulerice, ing., flight instructor"
<flying@videotron.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin
> Boulerice, ing., flight instructor"
> <flying@videotron.ca>
>
> Since Michel nor Grant replied yet, I will speak
> up...
>
> "Les faucheurs de marguerites", the Sherbrooke
> Fly-in, will be held on
> June 25 & 26, 2005.
>
> Martin
>
>
> Zodie Rocket wrote:
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
> <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
> >
> >Michel Therrien or Grant Corriveau a quick
> Question, when is the
> >Sherbrooke Fly-in.
> >
> >Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> >Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
> >President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
> >www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
> >do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
----------------------------
Michel Therrien CH601-HD, C-GZGQ
http://mthobby.pcperfect.com/ch601
http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/mthobby
http://pages.infinit.net/mthobby
__________________________________
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http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I like the road map search in maps.google.com, but
their aerial photography is not quite up to what
terraserver can do:
http://terraserver.microsoft.com/
They are at a much higher resolution in terraserver,
but maybe older photos. I use it for looking at
airports that I haven't been to before. You can even
read the numbers on the ends of the runways when you
zoom in on them.
Don
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
I think you should not be surprised that it's been all to common a
problem with the Zenith tanks.
I chose to make my own because of that history.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
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tinerj@tinerj.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com" <tinerj@tinerj.com>
>
>But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Well, I've just about gotten everything moved out to my new hanger. For pics
of N601WR new home and were the bird will be hatched visit
http://www.peoamerica.net/N601WR/html/progress.html
With that done I can get back to work on the plane.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cliff Martin" <southriverent@rockbridge.net>
All 5 of the ZAC tanks that I got from the factory had weep leaks that
needed to be repaired.
Cliff
----- Original Message -----
From: <tinerj@tinerj.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com" <tinerj@tinerj.com>
>
> But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Culp" <randy_culp@hotmail.com>
Does anyone know if ZAC has a recommended method of fixing the leaks in
their tanks?
Randy Culp
601XL, Corvair
About to install the tanks
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>From: "Cliff Martin" <southriverent@rockbridge.net>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:36:37 -0400
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cliff Martin"
><southriverent@rockbridge.net>
>
>All 5 of the ZAC tanks that I got from the factory had weep leaks that
>needed to be repaired.
>
>Cliff
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <tinerj@tinerj.com>
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com"
><tinerj@tinerj.com>
> >
> > But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Visit to William Wynne's facility last month |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Culp" <randy_culp@hotmail.com>
Sorry folks that this message is a little out of date, (and long...), but I
was having some issues posting to this message board last month - that I
think I've gotten sorted out.
Anyway; this is a recap of a trip that my building partner and I made from
our homes in southern Ontario (Canada) to William Wynne's hangar in Florida
last month to pick up the Corvair engine that he built for us.
Sorry for the length of the post:
Do Not Archive !
____________________________________
Greetings Listers:
I'm mostly been a lurker here, but had the pleasure of spending last
Thursday evening and Friday at "The Corvair Authority" hangar at Massey
Airpark in Edgewater, FL; and I thought I'd relay some of the experience of
that visit.
The purpose of this trip was to pick up a complete engine that I had ordered
from William around the first week of April. My building partner (father)
and I made the trip down from Ontario, Canada.
We arrived aroudn 7pm on Thursday, and everyone at the hangar was around
there working, except for Grace, who showed up later. Gus, (test pilot
extrodinaire) took both of us up on separate demo flights in their 601, and
the engine ran as smooth and as powerfully as we expected. He even managed
to impress us low-time pilots with some nearly vertical banked turns. I was
a little surprised by the stiffness of the dual stick setup, but obviously
that has nothing to do with the engine.
One thing some people may be interested to know is that they now have a fuel
flow monitor installed on the plane; but it was not calibrated yet to get
readings from.
After a tour of the facility, including a look at our engine (which was only
partially assembled at this point). We offerred our assistance in finishing
the assmebly work, but it was obvious that a couple of amateurs like us
would only be getting in the way, so we decided to leave the experts to
their work. William assured us our engine would be ready for a test run
Friday (tomorrow).
With that; we departed for the evening, while Kevin and William dove right
into the final assembly of our engine, with the Snap-On digital torque
wrench (don't leave home without it) in one hand, and a super-sized Dunkin'
Donut's coffee in the other.
After a restful evening at a local Day's Inn, we arrived back at the hangar
around 9am, to find the crew back hard at work. After inquiring into how
late they had to stay the night before to finish the engine; we were
informed that they had not gone home yet. Apparently William found an hour
or so to take a nap, while Kevin had questioned his masculinity for requring
such a rest.
After a preliminay run on the dyno in the morning (which sounded fine to our
un-tuned ears), William and Gus decided that something really didn't sound
good, and quickly traced the fault to 2 bad spark plug wires. (brand new
spiral core wires?!). A few hours later we had refuelled at Denny's (using
the fantastic hangar shuttle bus....a green, Greenbriar van), replaced the
wires, and had another run on the dyno.
Everything looked good with our engine producing 82 HP (uncorrected) at 3100
rpm. (138.5 lb-ft)
FYI: test conditions....around 85F, estimated 75% RH, overly rich carb,
stock automotive cast iron manifolds, supertrapp mufflers, and only 30
degrees total ignition advance.
William was confident that under "standard" conditions this engine would be
making 100HP once he bumped up the timing to 32-34 (with our promise to only
use 100 LL fuel), a correclty adjusted carb, and freer flowing exhaust. I
have no reason not to believe him.
Note also that William's is using a new torque measuring system consisting
of a 1 foot "arm" bearing weight down on a digital scale. That hasn't been
calibrated yet, so there may be some error built into that measurement
(either way) also. I'm sure pictures/details of this setup will show up on
the website....someday.
After some minor adjustments to one of the sets of points, it as time for
another test run before the final cool down. Total time our engine ran - -
probably around 1.5 hours.
Everything looked good (including a nicely HIGH oil pressure of 30-35psi at
850 rpm!) so it was time for us to drive back to Canada, and William to get
some sleep! (Kevin had succummed to sleep earlier in the day)
All in all it was a very positive experience. For those of you who are
anywhere near being driving distance from Daytona, I highly recommend the
trip.
There has been some questions/comments on here lately about the leadtime for
orders from William. I can confirm that 1) they appear to be VERY busy, and
therefore there are definitely having difficulty keeping up with orders as
quick as they would like to. 2) they squeaky wheel does seem to get the
grease. This was evident by the extrordinary efforts that William and the
gang put into getting our engine finished once we arrived there. My
suggestion: order EARLY, or if you need something quickly.....make the trip
there and they WILL get it done for you! Also; while we were there, William
was still answering phone calls....so if you need to talk to him...keep
trying until you get through!
For those of you waiting for intake manifolds and/or exhaust systems, or any
of the other parts that I was also hoping to purchase when I was there:
The intake welding fixture was just completed when we were there (at least
the one for the MA3 carbs). Unfortunately William was a little "tired" to
be welding (at least if we wanted decent looking welds), so we didn't press
to get that from him while we were there. I did see the pre-bent tubes in a
box; but no word on when they will be offerred for sale.
Exhaust: I saw the tubes, but the welding fixture doesn't look like it is
done yet.
Engine mounts: William was welding up ours when we arrived; and we took it
with us. I'm not sure if there is a waiting list for these or not.
Cowls: There was one onhand in the shop, but William said he'd prefer to
get us a "better one". Apparently he is having a little difficulty in
getting these in a timely manner, but he promissed to bring one for me to
Oshkosh.
That's about all I wanted to say (I'm sure if you read this far you'll think
it was MORE than enough).
Like I said - a very positive experience. If you have any interest in
making the visit; I highly recommend it.
Randy Culp
Sarnia, Ontario
601XL
p.s. if there is anyone in Ontario, Canada looking seriously at this engine.
Feel free to come by and check out mine. I was also very lucky to get an
extremely helpful customs agent when crossing back into Canada; so contact
me to find out how she helped be reduce my potential $1,500 tax bill down to
$242!
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
Not me.
Leo Gates
N601Z
-------Original Message-------
From: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com" <tinerj@tinerj.com>
But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Bob . . . I also have built a pole barn style hanger. Now waiting to put a
floor inside. I plan on using the Ultimate Door
http://ultimatedoor.homestead.com/ultimate.html . Two of my friends in my
flying club have made and installed them. They are quite nice. The company
supplies the hardware and tracks, and you buy the wood and covering. I
think the cost for a 40 ft. door will probably be under $3,000. It's rigged
up to a counterweight box and can be hand cranked up without much effort.
Take a look at them. It appears to be a small operation and Greg and Karen
Gehring are quite nice and helpful. Their email is gehringk@prodign.net.
Robert 701
----- Original Message -----
From: <NYTerminat@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hangers
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> Robert,
>
> You are where I was late last year. I am also in upstate NY. I cleared
> some
> property and made a 1300 ft grass strip. Grass is finally coming in with
> the
> rain and heat we have been getting. Not the most ideal setup (power lines
> to the
> East and tall trees to the West. But I am also building a 701 and a
> hanger. I
> am currently building a 42 x 36 pole barn style hanger. I have looked at
> many
> hanger doors, the best one that I liked was Hydroswing ( Hydroswing.com)
> but
> too expensive. I will eventually build my own to match the Hydroswing
> door.
> For now I am going with two large sliding doors for economics sake.
> Another site
> to check out is cool-airinc.com. They have several styles of manually
> operated doors that are a little more reasonable.
>
> Where in NY are you located? Did you live in L. I. at some time? I knew
> someone in the flooring business with the same name as yours. You can
> contact me
> off list if you need any further info.
>
> Bob Spudis
> CH 701 912S wings, elevator, rudder done, working on fuselage waiting for
> engine mount to install firewall. Hanger waiting for trusses
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: My new hanger. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
I'm GREEN with envy - look at all that ROOM! Congratulations Gig. I check your
website often and I'm glad to see that you have made some progress on those
side panels!
Keep up the good work.
Scott Laughlin
601XL / Corvair
See my engine at:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/6_13_05_Engine.JPG
P.S. Does it echo in there?
DO NOT ARCHIVE
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona"
Well, I've just about gotten everything moved out to my new hanger.
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| Subject: | Vapor Lock problem |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Are your pumps on the hot firewall?...If they are this is classic VL
territory.
Do you have a header tank or just wing tanks...If just wing tanks its
even worse.
I know I sound like a stuck record but the only VL safe system is to
have the pumps down low, in a COOL location and preferably as close to
the tanks as possible.
If none of the above is true you had better be using 100LL as the vapour
pressure is about 30% higher than with auto fuel (worse case) and will
to some extent overcome this dodgy hydraulic system.
The risk of being killed due to VL is much higher than having
pressurised fuel in the cockpit IMHO.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
gpjann@juno.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Vapor Lock problem
--> Zenith-List message posted by: gpjann@juno.com
Ref: Zodiac 601HDS, with WWs Nose Bowl
100HP Corvair
Aerocarb, updraft system
I'm having a problem which seems to be fuel Vapor Locking.
Corvair shuts down after a good taxi test and has quit after a flight,
after touchdown and at idle throttle.
Engine temps are in the green, but temps in the lower cowl are close to
200 Deg. at mid to high RPMs.
I have tried more input to the bottom of the cowl, shielding and ducting
air to the gasculator, increasing exit areas, and the problem seems to
get a little worse with each mod.
Getting ready to try a fuel pump to keep gas circulating.
Would appreciate any information you may offer in helping me with this
problem.
Thanks, Greg
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| Subject: | Re: My new hanger. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell <clojan@sbcglobal.net>
Gig: I am envious. That is a nice hanger. I have missed watching your progress
on your site. Get back to work! Jack in Cloivs CA
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Gig Giacona <wr.giacona@cox.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona"
Well, I've just about gotten everything moved out to my new hanger. For pics
of N601WR new home and were the bird will be hatched visit
http://www.peoamerica.net/N601WR/html/progress.html
With that done I can get back to work on the plane.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hi Bill,
I got an idea... VDO instruments are not very expensive, so what I would do in
your case is to check the sender's tread size in your engine, then order a set
(sender and instrument) this way you will be sure that they ARE compatible,
at least you will save lots of time.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, I have mentioned before how my oil press reads high at
max rev. Talked to the fine folks at Jab Tn yesterday and he confirmed that the
sender unit that comes on the 3300 is not compatible with the early VDO gauge
sold be ZAC in their FWF kit. Further that a replacement could be purchased
at NAPA possibly. Anybody out there in airplane world know the part number for
this VDO compatible sender unit ? Thanks, Bill in Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
You can also go to www.landings.com go to the top of the page in the blue area and click on databases. Next go to airports and click on information. You can now search for an airport any number of ways. Once you find your airport, scroll down at the bottom, there are 2 aerial photographs. The first will allow you to enlarge and the second, is a fixed photograph.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Here we have already assembled two kits (ours) and helped in two from friends...
All tanks were leak free. In fact ALL the weldings in the kits (alum or Chomoly)
were realy first class.
The person(s) that welds in the ZAC plant is a very good one.
The fiberglass area needs a little improvement. We had to make our own molds and
pieces, and do some work on the factory cowling, at the end the cowling looked
fine.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Two 701 912S flying
Beguining the 601 XL. (no engine decided yet)
"tinerj@tinerj.com" <tinerj@tinerj.com> wrote:--> Zenith-List message posted by:
"tinerj@tinerj.com"
But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Randy,
Most that have found leaks have returned them, or if installed already,
find it necessary to
remove the tank and replace or repair. The best method is to re-TIG the
leak provided you
know where it is. 2 lb of air and a bubble solution work very well for
finding these things.
If you don't TIG weld, you could try pro-seal inside or an externally
applied epoxy if you've
no other recourse. I'm not faulting ZAC for leaky tanks because it's
hard to make them without
leaks at first, but they should be the ones doing the pressure testing
and being absolutely sure of
their soundness.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
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Randy Culp wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Culp" <randy_culp@hotmail.com>
>
>Does anyone know if ZAC has a recommended method of fixing the leaks in
>their tanks?
>
>Randy Culp
>601XL, Corvair
>About to install the tanks
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>>From: "Cliff Martin" <southriverent@rockbridge.net>
>>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>>Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 09:36:37 -0400
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>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Cliff Martin"
>><southriverent@rockbridge.net>
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>>All 5 of the ZAC tanks that I got from the factory had weep leaks that
>>needed to be repaired.
>>
>>Cliff
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: <tinerj@tinerj.com>
>>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>>Subject: Zenith-List: Fuel Leak
>>
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>>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com"
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>>>But has anyone ever found a leak in a fuel tank welded by the factory?
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith 601, Jab 3300 Oil Sender |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Sal, yes I probably could do that, but I special ordered the vdo sender
through a local parts store and it should arrive Friday, we will see. Best regards,
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: x-plane for 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Trev and Ron,
Thanks for your replies re X-Plane. I want to apologize to Trev for
the implication in my last post that he was available for hire--I
wrote that very quickly between appointments and didn't give enough
consideration to my wording. It appears from your most recent post,
Trev, that you didn't take offense and I thank you!
Ron, you make a good point about the mild handling characteristics of
the 601s. The main thing I wanted to practice was dead-stick
landings with the 601's notoriously low glide-ratio. (And, of course,
if the X-Plane model could be configured with a Dyon D-10 on the
panel, which my plane will have but with which I have never flown,
that would be a big help too!)
Trev, if you decide it will take too much time, maybe we could contact
somebody at http://www.xplanehelp.com/ who models these things for
fun and see if we could entice them to model us some 601s?
Best,
Bob
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| Subject: | Jabiru engine seminar |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mark Stauffer" <mark.stauffer@cablespeed.com>
I'm driving or flying down for the 2-3 course.
Sorry I can't help.
Mark Stauffer
601XL
Odenton, MD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bob Miller
Subject: Zenith-List: Jabiru engine seminar
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bob Miller <tutuzulu@gmail.com>
Is anyone planning on attending the August 4 & 5 Jabiru engine
seminar? I live in central virginia and would be interested in
sharing a ride (air or ground).
--
Bob Miller
601HD N722Z
Charlottesville, Virginia
434-760-2928
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| Subject: | CH640-V-11 Drawing errors? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Brian Walker" <brianwalker@charter.net>
Take a look at CH640 drawing 640-V-11.
The upper view shows rear rib #5 flipped over. The details on the lower part of
the page show rib #6 flipped over. Noting how the L's are installed on the
spar, there is only one way to install rib #5 (& rib #6), that is as it is shown
in the upper view. Therefore, I am assuming the upper view is correct and
the two lower detail views are incorrect. The lower detail view for ribs #1 thru
5 should only apply to rear ribs #1 thru #4 and the detail for rear rib #6
should be for rear rib #5. It should also be noted on the drawings that a left
rib #5 should be installed on the right wing to keep the same wing contour.
Do you agree with all of the above?
When building my right wing last year, I simply took a right rear rib #5 and flipped
it over. I am assuming this will not be a issue since when comparing the
contours of the rear ribs, they are symmetrical within 3mm all around. Not
perfect but within tolerance. Am I OK here?
Finally, why does the lower detail on rib #10 show rear rib #10 flipped over?
One can achieve alignment with the front rib for a straight rivet line without
flipping it over....suppose it has something to do with the forces acting in
that part of the wing?? If indeed it should be flipped over, should I have used
a left rear rib on the right wing to achieve the same wing contour?
I posed the same questions to the folks at AMD (Matt) and Zenair (Tim) so I'll
let you know what they come up with.
I welcome your comments and suggestions.
Thanks, Brian
CH640 empennage and Rt wing complete. Left wing 25% complete. Lebanon, TN
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
In a message dated 6/15/2005 11:41:09 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
hrs1@frontiernet.net writes:
http://ultimatedoor.homestead.com/ultimate.html
Robert
Thanks for the info, a neighbor in the area has one like that. I asked him
where he got it and he said he got plans years ago and built it himself. He
seemed to be happy with it. He has a stationery bike as his source for the winch.
Where in upstate are you? I am near N03 Cortland airport.
Bob
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