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1. 05:46 AM - Re: Article (CH750???) ()
2. 09:10 AM - New wheel fairings for HD HDS (Larry McFarland)
3. 09:40 AM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS (Trevor Page)
4. 11:05 AM - Re: Article (NYTerminat@aol.com)
5. 11:09 AM - Activity test (Robert Schoenberger)
6. 11:10 AM - Oshkosh Dinner (Zodie Rocket)
7. 11:18 AM - Re: Article (NYTerminat@AOL.COM)
8. 11:47 AM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS ()
9. 12:00 PM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS (Larry McFarland)
10. 12:06 PM - Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? (Michael Gaskins)
11. 12:08 PM - Re: Article (Larry McFarland)
12. 12:44 PM - Re: Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? (Zodie Rocket)
13. 01:15 PM - Re: Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? (Larry McFarland)
14. 01:39 PM - belt drive noise? (Grant Corriveau)
15. 02:17 PM - belt drive noise (Grant Corriveau)
16. 02:25 PM - New Canadian Zenair reps... (Grant Corriveau)
17. 02:28 PM - Art Mitchell again and MAF - off topic (Grant Corriveau)
18. 02:55 PM - Wing strut fairings from Sky Shops on CH 701 (Tom and Joyce Schulke)
19. 03:30 PM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS (ron dewees)
20. 03:46 PM - Re: Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? (Bryan Martin)
21. 04:21 PM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS (Larry McFarland)
22. 04:21 PM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS (Larry McFarland)
23. 05:47 PM - Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS (Larry McFarland)
24. 06:09 PM - Prop lenght (Larry Martin)
25. 06:34 PM - Re: Prop lenght (Zodie Rocket)
26. 06:42 PM - Re: Wing strut fairings from Sky Shops on CH 701 (NYTerminat@aol.com)
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| Subject: | RE: Article (CH750???) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <burkeandsusan@verizon.net>
Having just purchased the plans for the 701 and having a strong potential
interest in the new 750 I would ask that ZAC and others in the know please
shed some light on this new airplane:
What is the timetable for its introduction?
What will its performance be?
Will it be available as a kit?
Will you be able to build it from plans?
How close is it to the 701? In other words, does it share any of its
construction?
How will it compare to the 701 in terms of cost?
I have little doubt that there are many new or potential 701 builders with
similar questions.
Thanks in advance!
Burke Johnson
Irvington, VAHaving
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| Subject: | New wheel fairings for HD HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi Guys,
I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got busy.
Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot shorter than
the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
I've still
got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so elated at
having
succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you can find
images at these links.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601frontleftwpants.gif
I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that describe how
to make your own if you're
motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail the
process. I've started on these
April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
finished fitting the set today.
Have a good one,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
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| Subject: | Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
They look great Larry!!
I'll keep them in mind as being on a grass strip makes the plane VERY
dirty. How much are you going to sell a set for?
Trev Page
C-IDUS
601HD
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On 19-Jun-05, at 12:09 PM, Larry McFarland wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
> <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
> I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
> them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got
> busy.
> Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot
> shorter than
> the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
> I've still
> got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so
> elated at
> having
> succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you
> can find
> images at these links.
>
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/
> fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/
> 601frontleftwpants.gif
>
> I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that
> describe how
> to make your own if you're
> motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail
> the
> process. I've started on these
> April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
> finished fitting the set today.
>
> Have a good one,
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Dear List:
Great article! I find the point about installing the strut fairings a good
one. Does anybody have any experience about them? Does anyone have any
instructions on how to install or fabricate the fairings? I would be interested
in
putting them on my 701. How about wheel fairings? I don't remember seeing them
on
a 701. Are they worth the effort?
Thanks
Bob Spudis
CH-701 912S Fuselage 90 % wings and tail done
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
List seems quiet - test for reception - do not archive. Robert Schoenberger 701
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Hi Folks, well it's that time of year again! Time to plan for Oshkosh
2005 !!! The Zenair Builders Dinner Date has been set for Thursday July
28th at Robbins Restaurant Please take a moment to visit www.ch601.org
or www.ch701.com and fill out the Oshkosh 2005 Builders Dinner Form.
Thanks
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Dear List:
I am getting to the point of seriously thinking about painting the outside of
my plane and want to get the paint ordered. I have a couple of questions from
those that have painted their own planes.
1. The prep on the outside. Scotchbrite and wipe down with MEK or lacquer
thinner? Is there anything else?
2. What type of primer is everyone using? I think I want to use a Urethane
paint. Any primers and paints that anyone would recommend? What is the max time
that you can wait to put the finish paint over the primer?
3. I see some paints have a clearcoat over the paint. Any experience with
these, are they necessary?
I have seen some articles on a paint booth and respirators. I am really
interested in the actual painting process. Any help would be appreciated.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX CH-701
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| Subject: | Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <flyingferret@netscape.com>
Nice looking plane Larry. I made wheel fairings that were narrower than Zenith's,
but the same length. I was happy with them until I did a side-slip with them.
The slip was a lot less effective, and I had a very loud noise of dirty air
from the noseweheel fairing plowing through the air. I'm curious to see if your
shorter fairings don't have this issue. Let us know how they work. Thanks!
Greg
--- Larry McFarland larrymc@qconline.com wrote:
From: Larry McFarland larrymc@qconline.com
Subject: Zenith-List: New wheel fairings for HD HDS
-- Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland larrymc@qconline.com
Hi Guys,
I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got busy.
Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot shorter than
the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
I've still
got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so elated at
having
succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you can find
images at these links.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601frontleftwpants.gif
I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that describe how
to make your own if you're
motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail the
process. I've started on these
April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
finished fitting the set today.
Have a good one,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
Netscape. Just the Net You Need.
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| Subject: | Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Trevor,
Cost's a good question, but I'd probably best wait to see how much of a
set needs to be
done by me. If it were just the product shells from the mold, I'd need
not much more than $150
and the buyer/builder would have to put them together, do the finish
work and provide hardware from
a set of drawing templates. If I had to do the total assembly, finish to
prime, they would have to cost
more. It'd be nice to find someone that likes fiberglass work enough to
do several at a time.
We'll have to see how the first sets come off as soon as I get another
intake done for the radiator.
Larry
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Trevor Page wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
>
>They look great Larry!!
>
>I'll keep them in mind as being on a grass strip makes the plane VERY
>dirty. How much are you going to sell a set for?
>
>Trev Page
>C-IDUS
>601HD
>
>do not archive
>
>
>On 19-Jun-05, at 12:09 PM, Larry McFarland wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
>><larrymc@qconline.com>
>>
>>Hi Guys,
>>I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
>>them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got
>>busy.
>>Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot
>>shorter than
>>the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
>>I've still
>>got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so
>>elated at
>>having
>>succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you
>>can find
>>images at these links.
>>
>>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/
>>fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
>>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/
>>601frontleftwpants.gif
>>
>>I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that
>>describe how
>>to make your own if you're
>>motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail
>>the
>>process. I've started on these
>>April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
>>finished fitting the set today.
>>
>>Have a good one,
>>
>>Larry McFarland - 601HDS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Gaskins <mbgaski@winterfairy.com>
I've recently purchased a second hand set of 601XL plans and was
thinking I'd have a go at scratch building the plane. I figure if the
scratch building becomes too much to handle I can always revert to the
component kits.
After a bit of looking though, it's looking more and more like the
STOL701 would be an easier build. The fuselage seems a lot more "boxey"
and such, which I would guess makes for easier construction. Being a
first time builder I'd really like to start off with a project that I
think I could finish with as little difficulty as possible.
So, to the experienced people on the list, is there any difference in
difficulty as to building the 601 vs the 701? If there is I may elect
to set the 601 plans aside for now and instead go with the 701. They
both look like good airplanes.
Thanks
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Bob,
There are lots of discussion within the archives on your questions and
the Kit Planes magazine has
specifics on booth, filter construction, prepaint and finish work in the
last three issues. Back issues are
available at their site. I'm in the same position as you with a 601
needing paint soon. Check out ch701.com
and ch601.org sites for breathing apparatus and filter construction.
Lots of great guidance there!
Good luck,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS @ www.macsmachiine.com
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
>Dear List:
>
>I am getting to the point of seriously thinking about painting the outside of
>my plane and want to get the paint ordered. I have a couple of questions from
>those that have painted their own planes.
>
>Bob Spudis
>N701ZX CH-701
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Michael I may have a different answer then you were expecting, either
plane is easy to scratch build, the one that would be the easiest is
that one that another builder is doing close to you. Being able to draw
upon the knowledge of another builder who is local can be of the most
value in your decision.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
Being a
first time builder I'd really like to start off with a project that I
think I could finish with as little difficulty as possible.
So, to the experienced people on the list, is there any difference in
difficulty as to building the 601 vs the 701? If there is I may elect
to set the 601 plans aside for now and instead go with the 701. They
both look like good airplanes.
Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Michael,
This question comes up a lot, but I'd stay with the bird that puts you
in the air for the purposes you
intend. The 601 is a good cruiser for cross country and visibility is
great. The 701 is a flyer's aircraft
that won't satisfy any long cross country, but it's great STOL. There
isn't a great difference between
them for the scratch builder, so take your pick according to your
perception of what kind of flying you do.
They both employ the same box technology, but the 601 flaps and ailerons
seem simpler.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS - scratch builder at www.macsmachine.com
Michael Gaskins wrote:
>
>So, to the experienced people on the list, is there any difference in
>difficulty as to building the 601 vs the 701? If there is I may elect
>to set the 601 plans aside for now and instead go with the 701. They
>both look like good airplanes.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | belt drive noise? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Thanks Gary,
I have confirmed previously with the manufacturer that it is permitted to
run the engine without a prop -- that is a sensible precaution to take
while noise hunting... thanks
Grant
> From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Belt drive noise?
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Grant,
>
> I think that you can easy find the source of that noise. I have some
> experience
...
> Taking this in account, is safe to do this to check the noise in your
> engine...
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| Subject: | belt drive noise |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
Ben, Mark, Gary et al,
Thanks for the pointers. I'll try loosening the belt a twitch to see if
anything changes.... see if I can zero in on the noise without sticking my
head in the prop to listen! ;-)
I'll keep you posted....
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | New Canadian Zenair reps... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
I had the pleasure of finally meeting Mark and Dave this past weekend and
even sharing a meal -- great guys. I'm sure that our Canadian service is
now in good hands!
BTW - FWIW - Art Mitchell, the original Canadian rep a few years ago, under
the name "FLYPASS" - told me he's 100 percent pleased with this new
representation for the Zenair line in Canada.
All the best!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Art Mitchell again and MAF - off topic |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
And speaking of Art - he was busy this past weekend as the main organizer of
the Guelph AirFair - an event in support of Mission Aviation Fellowship's
project to buy a second Cessna 208 Caravan for mission/relief/development
work in Angola.
www.mafc.org
So far, we've raised just over half of the needed 2.1 Million (C$) (for a
good used one!) If anyone out there likes to contribute to good causes with
an aviation connection, contact me off list. I'd be glad to provide more
information.
We now return to your regularly-scheduled program - thanks for you
indulgence, gang ;-)
--
Grant Corriveau
Volunteer Area Representative - Montreal
Mission Aviation Fellowship
grantc@ca.inter.net
www.mafc.org
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| Subject: | Wing strut fairings from Sky Shops on CH 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net>
Just a quick report on the wing lift strut fairings on my Stol 701. The fairings
for the wing came from Sky Shops and the Jury Strut fairings came from RANS.
My friend Tim glued them on instead of riveting them on.....he did however rivet
the back edge of the lift struts. Time to install and paint came to 15.5 hours.
Cruse speed with my 70" 3 blade warp drive set at about 12.5 degrees on
the tip went from 90 to 95mph with a stock 912S at 5200RPM. Next project will
be to put on the Sky Shops Retrofit kit with the rotax airbox and new cowl. I'm
hoping to gain a bit more before slowing it down with floats. I'll report on
the retrofit kit next. So far so good. I am not affiliated with Sky Shops or
Rans. Tom Schulke Wisconsin N276DG "ODD DUCK" about 20 hours for me now....loving
it!
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| Subject: | Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Larry,
They look great. I priced new fairings from Czech airworks and they
were $175 each, so I got over the idea of useing them. You should go
into production. Would sure be interested in performance numbers before
and after installation.
Thanks
Ron
N601TD
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Larry McFarland wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
>Hi Guys,
>I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
>them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got busy.
>Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot shorter than
>the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
>I've still
>got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so elated at
>having
>succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you can find
>images at these links.
>
>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601frontleftwpants.gif
>
>I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that describe how
>to make your own if you're
>motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail the
>process. I've started on these
>April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
>finished fitting the set today.
>
>Have a good one,
>
>Larry McFarland - 601HDS
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Which is easier to build: CH601 of STOL701? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
on 6/19/05 3:05 PM, Michael Gaskins at mbgaski@winterfairy.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Gaskins <mbgaski@winterfairy.com>
>
>
> So, to the experienced people on the list, is there any difference in
> difficulty as to building the 601 vs the 701? If there is I may elect
> to set the 601 plans aside for now and instead go with the 701. They
> both look like good airplanes.
>
The 601XL has tapered wings so the rear wing ribs are all different. You
need a different forming block for each one. The 701 has a straight wing so
you can use one forming block to make all the ribs in each wing. Other than
that I don't believe there's much difference in the difficulty between the
two types. However you can order the wing ribs or any other individual parts
from ZAC.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
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| Subject: | Re: New wheel fairings for HD HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Ron,
Today's entry to the journal section 8. I was also very curious, so
this morning
I took the time to get a better idea of what might be gained.
Also, if I did more than furnish a set of shells and instruction sheets,
these would also be near that
price range. It's not hard work, but it does take time.
*
June 19* Father's day was a calm and sunny morning. I went to the hangar
and did a thorough preflight inspection, topped off the plane with
87-octane fuel and checked the wheel fairings. I took off from runway
31, climbed 80 mph at 4800 rpm with the propeller set at 16-degrees. The
rudder and elevator inputs seemed a little slippery. I leveled off at
3000 ft to an ambient temperature of 76-degrees. At 4000-rpm the plane
eased past 100 mph, at 4200-rpm, airspeed climbed to 105, at 4450-rpm
airspeed passed 110 and 4700-rpm brought it to 115 mph, and 5100-rpm put
airspeed just over 125, and more importantly, all engine temperatures
stayed within limits. I ran the four main compass headings on the GPS
with these settings and came back to average these. After spending a
little more time in realistically evaluating past performance, the pitot
driven airspeed seems to be within 1 mph or dead accurate with the GPS.
I believe there's not more than 3 mph gained at top end, but there's a
6-mph improvment in mid-range cruise between 4200 to 4800-rpms. In any
case, the plane performed really well, but for what seemed like a faster
approach and longer rollout. To get a better handle on that, the
fairings will stay on until it's time to paint.
ron dewees wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
>
>Hi Larry,
>They look great. I priced new fairings from Czech airworks and they
>were $175 each, so I got over the idea of useing them. You should go
>into production. Would sure be interested in performance numbers before
>and after installation.
>Thanks
>Ron
>N601TD
>
>do not archive
>
>Larry McFarland wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>>
>>Hi Guys,
>>I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
>>them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got busy.
>>Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot shorter than
>>the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
>>I've still
>>got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so elated at
>>having
>>succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you can find
>>images at these links.
>>
>>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
>>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601frontleftwpants.gif
>>
>>I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that describe how
>>to make your own if you're
>>motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail the
>>process. I've started on these
>>April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
>>finished fitting the set today.
>>
>>Have a good one,
>>
>>Larry McFarland - 601HDS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Ron,
Today's entry to the journal section 8. I was also very curious, so
this morning
I took the time to get a better idea of what might be gained.
Also, if I did more than furnish a set of shells and instruction sheets,
these would also be near that
price range. It's not hard work, but it does take time.
*
June 19* Father's day was a calm and sunny morning. I went to the hangar
and did a thorough preflight inspection, topped off the plane with
87-octane fuel and checked the wheel fairings. I took off from runway
31, climbed 80 mph at 4800 rpm with the propeller set at 16-degrees. The
rudder and elevator inputs seemed a little slippery. I leveled off at
3000 ft to an ambient temperature of 76-degrees. At 4000-rpm the plane
eased past 100 mph, at 4200-rpm, airspeed climbed to 105, at 4450-rpm
airspeed passed 110 and 4700-rpm brought it to 115 mph, and 5100-rpm put
airspeed just over 125, and more importantly, all engine temperatures
stayed within limits. I ran the four main compass headings on the GPS
with these settings and came back to average these. After spending a
little more time in realistically evaluating past performance, the pitot
driven airspeed seems to be within 1 mph or dead accurate with the GPS.
I believe there's not more than 3 mph gained at top end, but there's a
6-mph improvment in mid-range cruise between 4200 to 4800-rpms. In any
case, the plane performed really well, but for what seemed like a faster
approach and longer rollout. To get a better handle on that, the
fairings will stay on until it's time to paint.
ron dewees wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
>
>Hi Larry,
>They look great. I priced new fairings from Czech airworks and they
>were $175 each, so I got over the idea of useing them. You should go
>into production. Would sure be interested in performance numbers before
>and after installation.
>Thanks
>Ron
>N601TD
>
>do not archive
>
>Larry McFarland wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>>
>>Hi Guys,
>>I finished the new wheel fairings for the HDS and finally got
>>them mounted this morning. Wanted to fly with them, but things got busy.
>>Perhaps tomorrow. I think they look good and they're a foot shorter than
>>the standard ZAC pants. They begin quite a bit narrower at the nose.
>>I've still
>>got the 15" OD tires and standard forks, so that's why I'm so elated at
>>having
>>succeeded with these. If you're interested in how they look you can find
>>images at these links.
>>
>>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/fairingsrtrearqtr.gif
>>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/601frontleftwpants.gif
>>
>>I've added a menu site page "wheel fairings" of images that describe how
>>to make your own if you're
>>motivated and there are references to the journal that fully detail the
>>process. I've started on these
>>April 5th, pulled first product from the molds May 25th and just
>>finished fitting the set today.
>>
>>Have a good one,
>>
>>Larry McFarland - 601HDS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Greg,
I had the original ZAC pants mounted that were a foot longer as well and
there was a tendency for the nose of the pant,
which was rounded to continue to take rudder action to limits. This
was not the case with the new ones, but there is
a slippery feel in the rudder that wasn't there before. I've not been
inclined to do slips because the HDS sink rate increases as quickly as
the airspeed drops off, so one has to keep an eye on what's going on.
I've been surprised by the sink
rate while turning a steep bank onto a final approach, and I'm not going
to repeat that one either. If you had a HD, the float
might be more forgiving of the slip, but loosing altitude has not been
one of the HDS's problems. I did gain a good 6-mph
at midrange airspeeds, but only topped out at 3 mph over privious wide
open throttle. Temperatures didn't get out of range either.
Larry
flyingferret@netscape.com wrote:
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>
>
>Nice looking plane Larry. I made wheel fairings that were narrower than Zenith's,
but the same length. I was happy with them until I did a side-slip with them.
The slip was a lot less effective, and I had a very loud noise of dirty air
from the noseweheel fairing plowing through the air. I'm curious to see if your
shorter fairings don't have this issue. Let us know how they work. Thanks!
>
>
>Greg
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
Need a little explanation about props. I read the Gary Wolf article (at www.ch701.com) and in it he states that a prop less than 68" won't perform in a 701. I would be interested in why he thinks so. Why is a long prop better than a short prop? Seems to me that with a shorter prop you just give it a little more bite, same end results. Thoughts please.
Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Larry, I actually asked about this from Gary several years ago, he went
into a great explanation with the facts to prove his point. I can no
longer remember enough of the conversation or facts to prove this point
but I'm sure Gary can. Write him at wolfpack@sentex.net and let all of
us know of his response.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm@isp.com>
Need a little explanation about props. I read the Gary Wolf article (at
www.ch701.com) and in it he states that a prop less than 68" won't
perform in a 701. I would be interested in why he thinks so. Why is a
long prop better than a short prop? Seems to me that with a shorter
prop you just give it a little more bite, same end results. Thoughts
please.
Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
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| Subject: | Re: Wing strut fairings from Sky Shops on CH 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Tom
Thanks for the reply. I ordered my firewall forward package from Skyshops and
it should arrive soon. I SHOULD have ordered the strut fairings too. Hind
site is 20 x 20. That's why I was wondering if anyone fabricated their own. I
don't want to wait several months before they arrive, I would rather purchase
locally or fabricate ones if I had a plan. Are the ones from Skyshops an extruded
aluminum strut/fairing combo that replaces the strut tubes or do they go over
the existing strut tubes? The article said someone fabricated ones out of
.016 aluminum sheet.
I am hoping that the wait for the firewall forward package will be worth it
as I am unable to proceed much further until it arrives.
I am using the 912S with the Woodcomp 3 blade Klassic. From the article that
seemed to be the right choice.
Bob Spudis
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