---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/22/05: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:17 AM - Change of email address (Howard Carter) 2. 03:22 AM - Re: Re: Sales Tax (Bryan Martin) 3. 03:24 AM - Re: 701 airspeed indicator markings (Mike Hoffman) 4. 06:15 AM - Sales Tax (Larry Martin) 5. 06:34 AM - Re: Landing gear () 6. 08:45 AM - Re: Sales Tax (kenneth schooley) 7. 09:44 AM - Re: Re: Sales Tax (Leo Corbalis) 8. 10:23 AM - Re: Sales Tax (Leo Corbalis) 9. 02:31 PM - Re: Re: Sales Tax (Jack Russell) 10. 04:59 PM - Connection to Main bus (RURUNY@aol.com) 11. 05:28 PM - Sentimental Journey (Jeffrey Glasserow) 12. 06:16 PM - CH750 News Release (Zodie Rocket) 13. 06:34 PM - Re: Sentimental Journey (WAYNE BEATTIE) 14. 06:35 PM - Re: Connection to Main bus (Bryan Martin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:17:01 AM PST US From: Howard Carter weaverclermont@earthlink.net, drwarddean@vrp.com.ftlossy322@comcast.net, igorlandau@yahoo.com, info@zenithair.com, james@hardwickeandco.com, jan@tantricjoy.com, jmfisher@cisco.com, bigankle@pacbell.net, lov2laf@bellsouth.net, mail@domai.com, pilikilanui@webtv.net, MPD-SUPPORT-L@LISTSERV.AOL.COM, massagebyrobert@yahoo.com, p.pwarren@xtra.co.nz, rick@rickthurmond.com, support@ccbill.com, techsmith@mailnj.custhelp.com, webmaster@zenithair.com, zenith-list@matronics.com Subject: Zenith-List: Change of email address --> Zenith-List message posted by: Howard Carter Please note: my new email address is howado@saber.net. Howard Carter ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:22:07 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Sales Tax From: Bryan Martin --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin on 6/21/05 10:11 PM, ron dewees at rdewees@mindspring.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees > > Hi Guys, > I don't want to make anyone think of depriving the state of anyting they > are due, but here in Georgia I got the same dunning letter when I was > issued an N number. I told them, and produced a bill of sale, that > showed that I had purchased the project from a Gerogia resident and they > agreed that no tax was due. Casual sales between individuals in the > same state are not subject to tax. If I had purchased the parts from ZAC > they would have wanted sales tax on everything from out of state. Maybe > you bought a project? > Ron > > Terry Fletcher wrote: In Michigan, the state does charge sales tax on sales between individuals, the only exception is when you buy from a member of your immediate family. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. do not archive. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:24:16 AM PST US From: "Mike Hoffman" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 airspeed indicator markings --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman" Hi Brian, I have used automotive pin stripping tape for marking air speed limitations. It can be bought at almost any auto paint supply or auto parts store auto zone). I believe I have even seen it at K-mart and Wal-Mart. It comes in a variety of lengths (usually enough in a roll to stripe a car), pick the color of your choice and the width (1/16th 1/8th etc). Very inexpensive. Mike Hoffman 701 Just started kit ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:06 AM PST US From: "Larry Martin" Subject: Zenith-List: Sales Tax --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" A bird told me how to get around the system. Buy your plans first, obtain your N-Number as a scratch builder using your invoice for the plans. Then buy the rest of the kit. I personally wouldn't do that, but I know those who would. Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:47 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Landing gear --> Zenith-List message posted by: Nope, haven't started yet. But, each leg has an outer and inner attachment. The outer is similar to ZAC's design, a plate-and-clamp that rivets to the fuselage side, and at the inner end, a sort of "pocket" attached under the floor that captures the gear leg, with a through bolt to hold it in place. Paul Rodriguez ----- Original Message ----- From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Landing gear --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Paul, Sounds very interesting. Do you have any photos of how these new Czech legs look and hook on to the fuselage, Best regards, Bill ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:18 AM PST US From: "kenneth schooley" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Sales Tax --> Zenith-List message posted by: "kenneth schooley" In Calif. that isn't needed because there is no sales tax on any homebuilt (experimental) acft. >From: "Larry Martin" >Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com >To: >Subject: Zenith-List: Sales Tax >Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2005 08:11:20 -0500 > >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" > >A bird told me how to get around the system. > >Buy your plans first, obtain your N-Number as a scratch builder using your >invoice for the plans. Then buy the rest of the kit. > >I personally wouldn't do that, but I know those who would. > >Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:44:29 AM PST US From: "Leo Corbalis" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Sales Tax --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" I wasn't aware of the tax either. The tax eaters get info from the FAA after its flying. This guarantees that you will pay penalties. Its cheaper to do it now. Everything from Acft Spruce is already taxed as well as Harbor Freight and Orchard Supply Aircraft Parts ETC companies. I had been flying for almost 5 years. Your choice. Extortion now or later. Now is cheaper! Leo Corbalis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Brown" Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Sales Tax > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kent Brown" > > In a conversation with another builder recently, I realized that I (and > he) > may have a problem. Seems neither one of us paid any sales tax (or use > tax) > to the State of California when we bought our kits. > > His HDS is almost ready for inspection and flight, while mine has a ways > to > go, so I may just learn by watching, but I am wondering if any CA builders > have any sage advice to offer. Among other concerns, I bought my kit > about > five years ago, so there might be penalties, etc. > > My expertise is with income tax, not sales tax, so I'm not sure whether I > have a problem or not. Any thoughts? > > Thanks, > > Kent Brown > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:23:53 AM PST US From: "Leo Corbalis" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sales Tax --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Corbalis" They'll have a field day kicking your wallet over the goal post. They are not stupid when it comes to collecting money. Leo Corbalis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Martin" Subject: Zenith-List: Sales Tax > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" > > A bird told me how to get around the system. > > Buy your plans first, obtain your N-Number as a scratch builder using your > invoice for the plans. Then buy the rest of the kit. > > I personally wouldn't do that, but I know those who would. > > Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701 > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:19 PM PST US From: Jack Russell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Sales Tax --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jack Russell Ron: Didn't work that way in california. Bought an ercoupe from a individual and the state wanted it all plus penalities. But of course this is california, what else would you expect. Jack in Clovis CA do not archive > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees . I told them, and produced a bill of sale, that > showed that I had purchased the project from a Gerogia resident and they > agreed that no tax was due. Casual sales between individuals in the > same state are not subject to tax. ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:26 PM PST US From: RURUNY@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Connection to Main bus --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com I posted this on the Aeroelectric list but would like to know what you guys think. A quick question to the group. I am using drawing Z-16 Rotax 912, I have my battery and battery contactor behind the passenger seat in my Zenith 701 and not on the firewall. Should I: 1) Run the 4 AWG wire from the battery contactor up thru the firewall, connect to the starter contacter, then run a separate wire from the starter contacter back thru the firewall to the main bus. 2) Run the 4 AWG wire from the battery contactor to the main bus fuse block, then run from the fuseblock thru the firewall to the starter contactor. 3) Run the 4 AWG wire from the battery contactor to a standalone terminal from west marine to a location up near the firewall and then 2 4AWG split from this terminal to the main bus and another thru the firewall to the starter contactor. Thanks Brian _http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/_ (http://www.zenithair.com/bldrlist/profiles/bunruh/) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:28:50 PM PST US From: "Jeffrey Glasserow" Subject: Zenith-List: Sentimental Journey clamav-milter version 0.80j on cepheus --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" Is anyone from the list going to go on Friday? I plan to fly in early Friday morning. If others are going to be there where are you going to park? Jeff Glasserow CH 601 HDS N6384E ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:16:24 PM PST US From: "Zodie Rocket" Subject: Zenith-List: CH750 News Release --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" Well guys it took some arm twisting and downright pleading, but we were able to convince ZAC to produce a statement to clarify what was printed in the RAA Magazine article. I know that any company is pretty cautious about prototypes in the works and it is a rare event for something like this to get out. The CH750 will likely be a great addition to the Zenith line of planes in the future but for those building a 701 or considering building one there is no reason to wait for a different model. In fact, much like you guys we stopped making parts for ours and waited to hear more, now were back at it and plan to finish the Can-Zac Sky Jeep! Read the release and see what I am talking about. http://www.zenithair.com/news/ch750.html Mark Townsend Can-Zac Aviation president@can-zacaviation.com www.can-zacaviation.com ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 06:34:58 PM PST US From: WAYNE BEATTIE Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Sentimental Journey --> Zenith-List message posted by: WAYNE BEATTIE If it were not for the cold front moving through Eastern Pa an and New York, Jeff Small and I would already be parked on the flightline. We both expect to get there Thursday morning and stay through Saturday. We expect we will be parked in the "camping area" which is on the South East area of the airport grounds. This is essentially the "core" area for the event. If you are coming in for the day, they will park you a bit further away, but in the same area of the airport. Tell the Unicom operator if you will be camping or just staying for the day. When you get on the taxiway, they will direct you. You might have to walk a couple hundred feet to find us if parking in the non-camping area. But I'll bet we find you first! This is not an Oshkosh where you have to search for hours to find anything. Just a laid back event you can relax and enjoy. Just remember when flying in, there are lots of slow moving Cubs puttering about without radios, so keep your eyes moving! And there are two runways in use in parallel. One paved and one grass. Cubs almost always use the grass. If we get two Zodiacs, we can call this the official "First Annual East Coast Zodiac Fly-In". Three or more will be a minor invasion of Piper territory. Even though it is mostly a Piper event, I spend a lot of time answering questions about the Zodiac and homebuilding. Lots of fun educating the locals. The weather should cooperate for the rest of the event. Come and enjoy. Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Glasserow" Subject: Zenith-List: Sentimental Journey > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" > > > Is anyone from the list going to go on Friday? I plan to fly in early > Friday morning. If others are going to be there where are you going to > park? > Jeff Glasserow > CH 601 HDS > N6384E > > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:35:21 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Connection to Main bus From: Bryan Martin --> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin on 6/22/05 7:58 PM, RURUNY@aol.com at RURUNY@aol.com wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com > > I posted this on the Aeroelectric list but would like to know what you guys > think. > > > A quick question to the group. I am using drawing Z-16 Rotax 912, I have my > battery and battery contactor behind the passenger seat in my Zenith 701 and > not on the firewall. > > Should I: > > 1) Run the 4 AWG wire from the battery contactor up thru the firewall, > connect to the > starter contacter, then run a separate wire from the starter contacter > back thru the > firewall to the main bus. > > 2) Run the 4 AWG wire from the battery contactor to the main bus fuse > block, then run > from the fuseblock thru the firewall to the starter contactor. > > 3) Run the 4 AWG wire from the battery contactor to a standalone terminal > from west marine > to a location up near the firewall and then 2 4AWG split from this > terminal to the main bus > and another thru the firewall to the starter contactor. > > > Thanks > > Brian > I ran one 4 AWG conductor from the contactor to a one terminal of a pass-through connector in the firewall and a 6 AWG conductor from that same terminal to my main fuse panel. I ran a 4 AWG conductor from the other terminal of the pass-through connector to the starter and another 6 AWG conductor to the alternator. I got the pass-through connector from Jeggs: http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=145530&prmenbr =361 Or try http://makeashorterlink.com/?M35C11F4B This connector made a convenient junction point for all the main power leads on both sides of the firewall. -- Bryan Martin N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru. do not archive.