Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:46 PM - Response to HS Question (Mike H)
2. 03:50 PM - Handbooks (Dave VanLanen)
3. 04:20 PM - Re: Handbooks (Bill Steer)
4. 05:22 PM - Tech counselor (Matt & Jo)
5. 05:43 PM - Re: Tech counselor (Craig Payne)
6. 06:03 PM - Re:parts and service-bad experience, (Brandon Tucker)
7. 06:54 PM - Re: Handbooks (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
8. 07:01 PM - Re: Tech counselor (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
9. 07:15 PM - Re-setting wing incidence (Jeffrey Glasserow)
10. 10:22 PM - Re:parts and service-bad experience / wrong list (Brandon Tucker)
11. 10:44 PM - Re: Tech counselor (Lance Gingell)
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Subject: | Response to HS Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike H" <mhilderbrand@cox.net>
After posting my question regarding the Xtra holes in the front spar, I found an
e-mail ZAC sent me(i forgot about) back in March:
Michael,
Zodiac XL tail kit
It was just brought to attention that on the supplied elevator front spar
6T1-3 the pre- drilled holes in spar 6T1-3 for 6T2-2 and 6T2-1
are reversed, so they are in a "3 hole, 5 hole, 4 hole" configuration
as opposed to a "5 hole, 3 hole, 4 hole" configuration as per
the plans.
The parts provide a 233mm space as per plans, the solution is to drill
two additional holes making a 5 hole, 5 hole, 4 hole configuration).
Please refer to the attached pdf file.
We apologize for the inconvenience, please do not hesitate to contact
me if you have additional questions.
Nick Heintz
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
The Online Builder Resources link lists the "Standard Aircraft Handbook for
Mechanics and Technicians" and/or the "Standard Aviation Maintenance
Handbook" as recommended reading. Has anyone who is now building read
either of these books and found them helpful? Is one better than the other?
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" <bsteer@gwi.net>
Hmmm. Neither of these titles exactly match my handbooks. I have the
"Standard Aircraft Handbook" by Larry Reithmaier, and use it quite a bit.
Also, ZAC sent me a copy of the "Aviation Mechanic Handbook," by Dale Crane,
with my FWF kit. The two books seems to be very similar.
Bill
> The Online Builder Resources link lists the "Standard Aircraft Handbook
for
> Mechanics and Technicians" and/or the "Standard Aviation Maintenance
> Handbook" as recommended reading. Has anyone who is now building read
> either of these books and found them helpful? Is one better than the
other?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Hello All,
Well just got done having a Tech counselor take a look at my wing. I was about
to close it up. Over all it went well and it sure was worth the time.
This was the third Zodiac he had inspected. He had some really great suggestions:
The worst thing was that I had used RTV to fay seal the aileron bell crank fittings.
Thought it was a good idea. It wasn't. The issue is that RTV contains
acetic acid which is corrosive to AL. I had the parts primed but after stewing
about it I went a head and drilled them out and cleaned the RTV off. It only
took about 15 minutes to fix it. Live and learn.
He wasn't real happy with the aileron horn. He thought that for such a critical
part it should be out of 4130 rather than AL. I am going to change this also.
The plans don't call out a washer for attaching the uniball on the pushrods. He
suggested an oversized fender washer to capture the uniball.
We talked about fuel systems. (always a fun topic on this board) He suggested
moving the valve to the bottom of the fuse to keep a pressure head and use an
extender bar for the selector. He also recommended using metal tube for the fuel
lines inside the cockpit.
He also looked at a couple of places where I had installed a doubler after messing
up edge distance and was happy.
Overall he commented that workmanship was rather good. (WOW)
This was well worth the time. I highly recommend this to everyone.
Cheers.
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
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Subject: | Re: Tech counselor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>
> He suggested moving the valve to the bottom of the fuse to keep a
pressure head and use an extender bar for the selector.
Andair sells extensions for their (very nice) fuel selector valves. They
can be ordered with the valve or as an accessory for an existing valve.
www.andair.co.uk
-- Craig
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Subject: | re:parts and service-bad experience, |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Zap,
You had to realize that you were starting
something with that comment... -Not really
necessary...
Steve,
Let's not get carried away with name calling.
That is not what this list is about. I am one of the
guys that Wheelerizing put on the back burner to
complete your project. I dropped mine off sometime in
Jan or Feb, I can't remember. They informed me on
delivery that it would be 3 months. BTW, I ordered a
prop, cowl, dist, motor mount from WW the same week,
and still have not been delivered these items... It
seems the Corvair numbers are growing, and business
booming for the associated products and services.
As I said before, let's not all go high and right
over one bad experience. I will report back when I
pick up my items tomorrow or Tuesday. I have total
confidence in Ken and Scott's integrity and
workmanship...
Respectfully,
Brandon
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dave, we have ALL read them and committed them to memory. Ha, Bill
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Subject: | Re: Tech counselor |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Matt, I sure would never say anything negative about a Tech Counselor,
because I was blessed with a fine one, but on the other hand the ZAC folks designed
your plane and have worked out most every bug. Mostly anyway. I would, and
did, balance any changes recommended by the TC (and others) with a call to Nick
to see if there is a particular reason for something to be a certain way or
type before I changed it. Course, in the final go of it all your the guy with his
butt in the can. FWIW, Best regards, Bill
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Subject: | Re-setting wing incidence |
clamav-milter version 0.80j
on hestia
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" <jeffglass@starband.net>
I think I had a first today for Zenith, I was honored to have Ken Cameron,
a three time Space shuttle astronaut and commander, fly my HDS. The had to
the testoilot school at Pax River also flew the plane. They really enjoyed
it and did all sorts of test pilot stuff to check it out. They both
concurred that the plane flies nose high and needs to have the wings
adjusted to raise the leading edge and drop the trailing edge about 3-4
degrees.
Now, Help me out here as I wasn't the builder.... Is there a way to adjust
the incidence without removing the wings and drilling a new set of holes? I
hope, I hope! Can't wait to see the replies on this one!
Jeff Glasserow
CH 601 HDS
N6384E
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Subject: | re:parts and service-bad experience / wrong list |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Gents,
-Sorry about my previous post... It was intended
for the Corvair list.
R/
Brandon
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http://mobile.yahoo.com/learn/mail
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
"He wasn't real happy with the aileron horn. He thought that for such a
critical part it should be out of 4130 rather than AL. I am going to
change this also."
I'll bite.
I think the designer would be the best judge of this.
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Matt & Jo
Subject: Zenith-List: Tech counselor
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Hello All,
Well just got done having a Tech counselor take a look at my wing. I was
about to close it up. Over all it went well and it sure was worth the
time.
This was the third Zodiac he had inspected. He had some really great
suggestions:
The worst thing was that I had used RTV to fay seal the aileron bell
crank fittings. Thought it was a good idea. It wasn't. The issue is
that RTV contains acetic acid which is corrosive to AL. I had the parts
primed but after stewing about it I went a head and drilled them out and
cleaned the RTV off. It only took about 15 minutes to fix it. Live and
learn.
He wasn't real happy with the aileron horn. He thought that for such a
critical part it should be out of 4130 rather than AL. I am going to
change this also.
The plans don't call out a washer for attaching the uniball on the
pushrods. He suggested an oversized fender washer to capture the
uniball.
We talked about fuel systems. (always a fun topic on this board) He
suggested moving the valve to the bottom of the fuse to keep a pressure
head and use an extender bar for the selector. He also recommended
using metal tube for the fuel lines inside the cockpit.
He also looked at a couple of places where I had installed a doubler
after messing up edge distance and was happy.
Overall he commented that workmanship was rather good. (WOW)
This was well worth the time. I highly recommend this to everyone.
Cheers.
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
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