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1. 05:47 AM - Re: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems (Thilo Kind)
2. 07:07 AM - Re: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems (Larry McFarland)
3. 10:26 AM - First flight (Johann G.)
4. 10:50 AM - Re: First flight (Steve Hulland)
5. 01:10 PM - Re: engine wanted (Fred Kirkland)
6. 01:45 PM - Re: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems (Thilo Kind)
7. 02:22 PM - Re: First flight (Larry McFarland)
8. 02:23 PM - Re: First flight (Leo Gates)
9. 02:26 PM - Re: Matco Wheels circa 1999 - hex bolts (Leo Gates)
10. 03:02 PM - Re: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems (Larry McFarland)
11. 04:19 PM - Re: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems (David Alberti)
12. 04:21 PM - Re: First flight (Rick R)
13. 04:30 PM - Brake lines 701or 601 (RURUNY@aol.com)
14. 09:44 PM - Re: First flight (NYTerminat@aol.com)
15. 10:12 PM - Re: First flight (n801bh@netzero.com)
16. 10:22 PM - Re: First flight (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi folks,
I have an Micro-1000 Tach bought from Aircraft Spruce (Part No TA150 RND),
made for the Rotax 912. Whenever the RPM exceeds 3,500, the needle of the
tach goes all the way to the stop of the right hand side - indicating more
than 7,000 RPM. I have tried everything without any success: replaced the
tach, re-run the wires (shielded, etc.). I also have the Engine Information
System from Grand Rapids, which takes the RPM reading from the same wire.
The EIS shows the RPM just fine.
I have talked to A/S; obviously, they don't know. I have tried to reach the
manufacturer without success.
The aircraft flies fine; I use the EIS to read the RPM. However, it would be
great, if the tach would work properly as well. Any ideas?
Thanks
Thilo Kind
----- Original Message -----
From: <RURUNY@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
>
> Go here and scroll down a bit. This problem has been seen before.
>
> _http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm_
> (http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm)
>
> I am using a 2.25" UMA 0-7000 rpm tach. It is p/n 19-505-20B
> It's displayed on the UMA website. It is made for a 912/914 engine
>
> _http://www.umainstruments.com/_ (http://www.umainstruments.com/)
>
> Brian
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Thilo,
I had a UMA that acted the same way, sort of accurate up to 3000, then
way off and I was
never able to make it work. Ended up getting a VDO tachometer like I'd
seen operating in
Kelly Meiste's plane. It's rock solid in its reading all the time.
Never found the reason for
the UMA being so irratic.
Larry McFarland
do not archive
Thilo Kind wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
>
>Hi folks,
>
>I have an Micro-1000 Tach bought from Aircraft Spruce (Part No TA150 RND),
>made for the Rotax 912. Whenever the RPM exceeds 3,500, the needle of the
>tach goes all the way to the stop of the right hand side - indicating more
>than 7,000 RPM. I have tried everything without any success: replaced the
>tach, re-run the wires (shielded, etc.). I also have the Engine Information
>System from Grand Rapids, which takes the RPM reading from the same wire.
>The EIS shows the RPM just fine.
>I have talked to A/S; obviously, they don't know. I have tried to reach the
>manufacturer without success.
>The aircraft flies fine; I use the EIS to read the RPM. However, it would be
>great, if the tach would work properly as well. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>
>Thilo Kind
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <RURUNY@aol.com>
>To: <johnbirgiolas@hotmail.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems
>
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
>>
>>Go here and scroll down a bit. This problem has been seen before.
>>
>>_http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm_
>>(http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm)
>>
>>I am using a 2.25" UMA 0-7000 rpm tach. It is p/n 19-505-20B
>>It's displayed on the UMA website. It is made for a 912/914 engine
>>
>>_http://www.umainstruments.com/_ (http://www.umainstruments.com/)
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Hello list members.
The first flight of my six year project occurred last night around midnight. Yes,
it was bright enough up here in the north.
It was great to experience the feeling of flying something that has been just aluminum
and rivets in my garage for all that time. And all the wait was worth
every 1500 hours of work. It flies straight and feels good in the air.
I filled the D tank only so it had to be trimmed slightly with up elevator trim.
The flight was only a short one, because the propeller needs a little more pitch
and some differences between cht temps. on # 1 and # 3.
Can=B4t wait until the next flight with the minor adjustments done.
I would like to thank all of you on the list for the help and support during the
building process, and to you who are still building. Keep up the good work.
The satisfaction is unreal.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
Zenith 701. (Joeing 701)
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
Johann,
Congradulations on your first flight. Sounds like it went very well with
only a couple of small issues. Fly carefully and with great fun.
Steve H.
On 7/3/05, Johann G. <johann@gi.is> wrote:
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
>
> Hello list members.
>
> The first flight of my six year project occurred last night around
> midnight. Yes, it was bright enough up here in the north.
> It was great to experience the feeling of flying something that has been
> just aluminum and rivets in my garage for all that time. And all the wait
> was worth every 1500 hours of work. It flies straight and feels good in the
> air.
> I filled the D tank only so it had to be trimmed slightly with up elevator
> trim.
> The flight was only a short one, because the propeller needs a little more
> pitch and some differences between cht temps. on # 1 and # 3.
> CanB4t wait until the next flight with the minor adjustments done.
>
> I would like to thank all of you on the list for the help and support
> during the building process, and to you who are still building. Keep up the
> good work. The satisfaction is unreal.
>
> Best wishes,
> Johann G.
> Iceland.
> Zenith 701. (Joeing 701)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: engine wanted |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
Steve,
Contact Murle Williams, Phoenix, AZ @ 602-978-0553 after the 4th of July. He has
a 912-S with less than eighty hours on it for sale.
Fred.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi Larry,
could you tell me the exact type of the VDO tach?
Thanks and best regards
Thilo Kind
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Thilo,
> I had a UMA that acted the same way, sort of accurate up to 3000, then
> way off and I was
> never able to make it work. Ended up getting a VDO tachometer like I'd
> seen operating in
> Kelly Meiste's plane. It's rock solid in its reading all the time.
> Never found the reason for
> the UMA being so irratic.
>
> Larry McFarland
> do not archive
>
>
> Thilo Kind wrote:
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
> >
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >I have an Micro-1000 Tach bought from Aircraft Spruce (Part No TA150
RND),
> >made for the Rotax 912. Whenever the RPM exceeds 3,500, the needle of the
> >tach goes all the way to the stop of the right hand side - indicating
more
> >than 7,000 RPM. I have tried everything without any success: replaced the
> >tach, re-run the wires (shielded, etc.). I also have the Engine
Information
> >System from Grand Rapids, which takes the RPM reading from the same wire.
> >The EIS shows the RPM just fine.
> >I have talked to A/S; obviously, they don't know. I have tried to reach
the
> >manufacturer without success.
> >The aircraft flies fine; I use the EIS to read the RPM. However, it would
be
> >great, if the tach would work properly as well. Any ideas?
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Thilo Kind
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: <RURUNY@aol.com>
> >To: <johnbirgiolas@hotmail.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> >Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
> >>
> >>Go here and scroll down a bit. This problem has been seen before.
> >>
> >>_http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm_
> >>(http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm)
> >>
> >>I am using a 2.25" UMA 0-7000 rpm tach. It is p/n 19-505-20B
> >>It's displayed on the UMA website. It is made for a 912/914 engine
> >>
> >>_http://www.umainstruments.com/_ (http://www.umainstruments.com/)
> >>
> >>Brian
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Congratulations Johann,
Really pleased to hear you've finally flown. Your adventure has only begun
Do fly safe,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
Johann G. wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
>
>Hello list members.
>
>The first flight of my six year project occurred last night around midnight. Yes,
it was bright enough up here in the north.
>It was great to experience the feeling of flying something that has been just
aluminum and rivets in my garage for all that time. And all the wait was worth
every 1500 hours of work. It flies straight and feels good in the air.
>I filled the D tank only so it had to be trimmed slightly with up elevator trim.
>The flight was only a short one, because the propeller needs a little more pitch
and some differences between cht temps. on # 1 and # 3.
>Can=B4t wait until the next flight with the minor adjustments done.
>
>I would like to thank all of you on the list for the help and support during the
building process, and to you who are still building. Keep up the good work.
The satisfaction is unreal.
>
>Best wishes,
>Johann G.
>Iceland.
>Zenith 701. (Joeing 701)
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
Congratulations, Johann! Now the fun begins.
Do not archive
Leo Gates
N601Z
-------Original Message-------
From: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: First flight
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@gi.is>
Hello list members.
The first flight of my six year project occurred last night around midnight.
Yes, it was bright enough up here in the north.
It was great to experience the feeling of flying something that has been
just aluminum and rivets in my garage for all that time. And all the wait
was worth every 1500 hours of work. It flies straight and feels good in the
air.
I filled the D tank only so it had to be trimmed slightly with up elevator
trim.
The flight was only a short one, because the propeller needs a little more
pitch and some differences between cht temps. on # 1 and # 3.
CanB4t wait until the next flight with the minor adjustments done.
I would like to thank all of you on the list for the help and support during
the building process, and to you who are still building. Keep up the good
work. The satisfaction is unreal.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
Zenith 701. (Joeing 701)
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| Subject: | Re: Matco Wheels circa 1999 - hex bolts |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
Jeff,
I was lucky and had a cheap, flea market, set of sockets. They were thin
wall and worked ok.
Leo Gates
N601Z
-------Original Message-------
From: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Matco Wheels circa 1999 - hex bolts
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Davidson"
<jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
Well folks I92m finally making great progress! I92m currently putting the
tires and tubes on the Matco wheels. I92m looking forward to seeing it
stand
on its own. I bought my wheels from ZAC in August 1999 as part of a Gears
and Wheels component kit. It seems that the current available bolts for
these wheels are AN4s 96 BC inch in diameter 96 per Matco. My wheel
halves
came bolted together but with AN5 bolts. The bolts have a Hex head for an
Allen wrench. The nut is a fiber lock nut. Both are BD inch. The problem
is that I92ve tried many, many sockets, but I can92t get a BD inch socket
into
the recessed hole to grab the lock nut.
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Thilo,
The UMA was the type that used a 3-wrap pigtail to sense the ignition
pulses.
The VDO North America programmable Tachometer can be ordered
1-800-752-9763 or 1-937-323-1932. The gage I bought from Zenith, but
you can contact VDO at 1-540-665-2428. I found instructions for
installing the VDO at
http://www.springfieldstreetrods.com/Install-InstructionsTach.htm
Never had any problems since.
Good luck
Larry
Thilo Kind wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
>
>Hi Larry,
>
>could you tell me the exact type of the VDO tach?
>
>Thanks and best regards
>
>Thilo Kind
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
UMA offers two types of tachs for the 912 series. One is inductive pickup
off the plug (the pickup wraps several turns around one plug wire) and the
other sees the rotor impulses off the tach lead. I had a problem with mine
because it was marked as one type and was actually the other! UMA replaced
the tach and no problems since then.
Dave 601-HD 912ULS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Thilo,
I had a UMA that acted the same way, sort of accurate up to 3000, then
way off and I was
never able to make it work. Ended up getting a VDO tachometer like I'd
seen operating in
Kelly Meiste's plane. It's rock solid in its reading all the time.
Never found the reason for
the UMA being so irratic.
Larry McFarland
do not archive
Thilo Kind wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
>
>Hi folks,
>
>I have an Micro-1000 Tach bought from Aircraft Spruce (Part No TA150 RND),
>made for the Rotax 912. Whenever the RPM exceeds 3,500, the needle of the
>tach goes all the way to the stop of the right hand side - indicating more
>than 7,000 RPM. I have tried everything without any success: replaced the
>tach, re-run the wires (shielded, etc.). I also have the Engine Information
>System from Grand Rapids, which takes the RPM reading from the same wire.
>The EIS shows the RPM just fine.
>I have talked to A/S; obviously, they don't know. I have tried to reach the
>manufacturer without success.
>The aircraft flies fine; I use the EIS to read the RPM. However, it would
be
>great, if the tach would work properly as well. Any ideas?
>
>Thanks
>
>Thilo Kind
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <RURUNY@aol.com>
>To: <johnbirgiolas@hotmail.com>; <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Rotax Tachometer Problems
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
>>
>>Go here and scroll down a bit. This problem has been seen before.
>>
>>_http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm_
>>(http://www.sportflight.com/kfb/kitfoxsafe.htm)
>>
>>I am using a 2.25" UMA 0-7000 rpm tach. It is p/n 19-505-20B
>>It's displayed on the UMA website. It is made for a 912/914 engine
>>
>>_http://www.umainstruments.com/_ (http://www.umainstruments.com/)
>>
>>Brian
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
CONGRATS Johann!
Do not archive
"Johann G." <johann@gi.is> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
Hello list members.
The first flight of my six year project occurred last night around midnight. Yes,
it was bright enough up here in the north.
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
---------------------------------
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| Subject: | Brake lines 701or 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
A couple quick question on brake line routing from the matco master
cylinders.
Did many use strait fittings out of the bottom of the cylinders, and did the
left cylinder line go left and back and the right line go out the right side
and back?
Or, did you use 90 deg fittings and route the lines up and and then to the
side, down and back to give some flex for rudder and brake movement.
I have the peddles where the bottom of the cylinder is attached to the
rudder peddle and not to the floor. This would make the routing of the line a
little more challenging considering that you need a little flex for rudder and
brake movement. It looks like the left line would work fine but the right
cylinder would intefere with the right nose wheel steering rod.
If I did run the lines up and then to the sides, is it a no-no to have the
lines at any point
higher than the top of the master cylinders. Would it be possible that fluid
would run back and out of the top of the master cylinder.
Thanks for your help
Brian
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Congratulations! Glad to hear that it flew straight and felt great! Hope to
get that feeling soon!
Bob Spudis
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
I would like to thank all of you on the list for the help and support during the
building process, and to you who are still building. Keep up the good work. The
satisfaction is unreal.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
Zenith 701. (Joeing 701)
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Congrats to you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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| Subject: | Re: First flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
JOHANN, YOU DID IT!!!! Congratulations, Was so great to follow your work
for the last of this years. Keep in touch and share your flying experiences.
Please send some photos to photoshare, when you have time....
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Do not archive.
"Johann G." <johann@gi.is> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
Hello list members.
The first flight of my six year project occurred last night around midnight. Yes,
it was bright enough up here in the north.
It was great to experience the feeling of flying something that has been just aluminum
and rivets in my garage for all that time. And all the wait was worth
every 1500 hours of work. It flies straight and feels good in the air.
I filled the D tank only so it had to be trimmed slightly with up elevator trim.
The flight was only a short one, because the propeller needs a little more pitch
and some differences between cht temps. on # 1 and # 3.
Can=B4t wait until the next flight with the minor adjustments done.
I would like to thank all of you on the list for the help and support during the
building process, and to you who are still building. Keep up the good work.
The satisfaction is unreal.
Best wishes,
Johann G.
Iceland.
Zenith 701. (Joeing 701)
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