Zenith-List Digest Archive

Fri 07/22/05


Total Messages Posted: 15



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     1. 06:55 AM - Re: acrylic to aluminum cement ? (Paul Hartl)
     2. 08:41 AM - email problems (Tommy Walker)
     3. 09:20 AM - Re: zenith 701 for sale (ROBERT SCEPPA)
     4. 10:25 AM - Sky Shops 701 Firewall Forward Retrofit Package....Done! (Tom and Joyce Schulke)
     5. 10:33 AM - 701 Cowling for sale for Rotax 912 (Tom and Joyce Schulke)
     6. 10:54 AM - Re: email problems (Al Young)
     7. 11:10 AM - Re: email problems (Robert Schoenberger)
     8. 12:13 PM - Re: Sky Shops 701 Firewall Forward Retrofit Package....Done! (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
     9. 12:41 PM - Re: email problems (Hodges, Mitch)
    10. 01:38 PM - Re: acrylic to aluminum cement ? (Tebenkof@aol.com)
    11. 05:18 PM - XL Rudder fairing (Rico Voss)
    12. 06:37 PM - Re: XL Rudder fairing (Paul Mulwitz)
    13. 07:20 PM - Re: XL Rudder fairing (Zodie Rocket)
    14. 08:17 PM - Re: XL Rudder fairing (Jon Croke)
    15. 08:21 PM - Re: XL Rudder fairing (Rico Voss)
 
 
 


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    Time: 06:55:34 AM PST US
    From: "Paul Hartl" <paulhartl@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: acrylic to aluminum cement ?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Hartl" <paulhartl@cox.net> Thanks for all the responses - SilkaFlex, PolyZap, and Lexel were all recommended. Lexel was the only one readily available in the sticks of Idaho where I live, so I'll try it this morning. Did I say this list has been the single most important resource for the building, and now completion of my Zodiac? Thanks you'all! Paul Paul Hartl, 601HDS, Jabiru 3300A, finishing stages Flight Simulator 2002/4 Zodiac Website: www.members.cox.net/paulhartl Sun Valley, Idaho 83340 208-788-9147


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    Time: 08:41:12 AM PST US
    From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
    Subject: email problems
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net> Info@zenithair.com is the only email account that bounces my emails back. I thought maybe someone on the matronics-zenith list has or had the same problem and found a solution. Basically, when I send an email to the above address, this is the response I get: ====================================================== A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: zenithair@ktis.net (generated from info@zenithair.com) SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL FROM:<stol701@cableone.net> SIZE=2062: host vopm1.ktis.net [69.27.200.50]: 550 5.7.1 Client host rejected: Please see http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=stol701%40cableone.net&ip=204.174.223.6 2&receiver ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ From: "Thos Walker" <stol701@cableone.net> Subject: Test Msg ======================================================== I used my hotmail account and forwarded the message to info@zenith.com but didn't hear back. I called my ISP and they looked at the message and said that they didn't use the 204. IP, so the message from ktis.net wasn't valid. What to do? I called ktis.net support and they said that they didn't handle ZAC's account. Any ideas? Tommy Walker in Alabama Do Not Archive


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    Time: 09:20:48 AM PST US
    From: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
    Subject: zenith 701 for sale
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com> > Terry I sent it thru my email so you should have it. --- Terry Fletcher <goflyatrike@earthlink.net> wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Terry Fletcher" > <goflyatrike@earthlink.net> > > There is no attached file. > Mantronics probably doesn't allow attachments. > Terry Fletcher > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On > Behalf Of ROBERT SCEPPA > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: zenith 701 for sale > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA > <rjscep@yahoo.com> > > > see atatched file > > > --- Terry Fletcher <goflyatrike@earthlink.net> > wrote: > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: Terry Fletcher > > <goflyatrike@earthlink.net> > > > > I don't see anything either. > > Terry Fletcher > > do not archive > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com> > > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Zenith-List: zenith 701 for sale > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA > > <rjscep@yahoo.com> > > > > > Hope this clears up the question on who is > selling > > > the 701 > > > > > > > > browse > > Subscriptions page, > > FAQ, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > browse > Subscriptions page, > FAQ, > > > > > >


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    Time: 10:25:01 AM PST US
    From: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Sky Shops 701 Firewall Forward Retrofit Package....Done!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net> Just finished installing the 701 FWF Retrofit kit from Sky Shops. The kit was very complete and it is for the Rotax 912 engine. The only parts I was missing was the carburetor heat cable and the nuts for the prop bolts. The folks at the factory packed a throttle cable instead of the carburetor heat. I just ordered one from "Spruce" and was reimbursed by Sky Shops. The prop bolts were a bit too long for my Warp Drive and while they could be cut down I just ordered New AN bolts and nuts. The challenges I ran into were. 1) The muffler shroud for gathering air for the carburetor heat was too small for my muffler. The mufflers that are made in the Czech Republic are about 1/2 inch smaller. It was however easy to make the small modifications that were quickly sent to me by the engineer in the Czech Republic. 2) The way my engine was installed the new cowl needed to have a bump put on the right side to clear the carburetor. In was actually touching. This probably will not be a issue on most 701's as every one is unique. Other 701's I've seen did not need the right bump. (They come with one on the left side) 3) Right now the oil runs on the hot side at high cruse power....A little baffling to force all the air coming at the oil cooler to run through should work. No big deals but I like to tell it as it is. I picked up about 4 to 5 mph on my first tests. This was done without repitching the warp drive 3 blade 70" prop. This puts cruse at about 5200 rpm 100mph. I may repitch the prop to see if I can get more speed....and then I may not as it will soon be going on the Czech 1200 Amphibious floats that I will be picking up at Oshkosh. ( Ordered last spring) My final goal is to have a cruse of 90 MPH on the floats. I like the looks of the new cowling. With the air box the 701 has more power. This may not be important for a land plane but for a soon to be Amphibian it's a must. I'll have the time flown off soon and then I want to get out to visit some of my fellow 701 owners in Wisconsin before starting the float project. Every time I fly the "Odd Duck" I get a big smile on my face! Tom Schulke Stol 701 N276DG "Odd Duck" Rotax 912S warp drive prop I have no financial interest in Sky Shops other than spending lots of $ with them.


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    Time: 10:33:29 AM PST US
    From: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: 701 Cowling for sale for Rotax 912
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net> The new Firewall forward is on the "Odd Duck" my STOL 701. The old (25 hours) one is for sale. It is set up for a Rotax 912. Nice shape. I'll sell it for 1/2 of what Zenith gets for one plus shipping. Or if you are going to Oshkosh pick it up and save on shipping. I'm only 35 miles away. I do not know what Zenith sells one for. (Top and Lower) Find out and save some $$$. Tom Schulke N276DG Stol701 rotax 912S done for now and flying (smile) Do not archive.


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    Time: 10:54:51 AM PST US
    From: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
    Subject: Re: email problems
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net> Tommy- Try using lower case i rather than I in info. Should work. Al Young 601xl- re-building


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    Time: 11:10:13 AM PST US
    From: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: email problems
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net> I'm having the same problem with Info@zenithair.com getting bounced back. Why would this email address generate zenithair@ktis.net ? After this happened several times, I turned to fax, but would rather use email. The Info@ . . address is the one on their website. Robert Schoenberger 701 do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net> Subject: Zenith-List: email problems > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net> > > Info@zenithair.com is the only email account that bounces my emails back. > I > thought maybe someone on the matronics-zenith list has or had the same > problem and found a solution. Basically, when I send an email to the > above > address, this is the response I get: > > ====================================================== > A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its > recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed: > > zenithair@ktis.net > (generated from info@zenithair.com) > SMTP error from remote mail server after MAIL > FROM:<stol701@cableone.net> SIZE=2062: > host vopm1.ktis.net [69.27.200.50]: 550 5.7.1 Client host rejected: > Please see > http://spf.pobox.com/why.html?sender=stol701%40cableone.net&ip=204.174.223.6 > 2&receiver > ------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------ > > From: "Thos Walker" <stol701@cableone.net> > To: "Zenith Aircraft Company" <info@zenithair.com> > Subject: Test Msg > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:51:21 -0500 > ======================================================== > > > I used my hotmail account and forwarded the message to info@zenith.com but > didn't hear back. I called my ISP and they looked at the message and said > that they didn't use the 204. IP, so the message from ktis.net wasn't > valid. > What to do? I called ktis.net support and they said that they didn't > handle > ZAC's account. > > Any ideas? > > Tommy Walker in Alabama > > Do Not Archive > > >


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    Time: 12:13:18 PM PST US
    From: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Sky Shops 701 Firewall Forward Retrofit Package....Done!
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com What is the prop pitch set at now? In a message dated 7/22/2005 12:26:50 PM Central Daylight Time, classpix@sbcglobal.net writes: I picked up about 4 to 5 mph on my first tests. This was done without repitching the warp drive 3 blade 70" prop. This puts cruse at about 5200 rpm 100mph. I may repitch the prop to see if I can get more speed


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    Time: 12:41:39 PM PST US
    From: "Hodges, Mitch" <mitch@HODGES.INFO>
    Subject: Re: email problems
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hodges, Mitch" <mitch@hodges.info> My guess on the mail bouncing is the host mailbox has reached capacity. This is a busy time of year for Zenith and nearly everyone is out of office. I sent them a note 10 days ago that has not been responded to. Usually I get a response in 1 to 2 business days. On the question of why its generating an error from zenithair@ktis.net, my educated guess is that info@zenithair.com (the case should not matter) is an alias pointing to the ktis.net address. This isn't unusual when you have an outside company hosting your website. It's similar to having a GMAIL account forward all your mail to another address. If either mailbox is full, the sender will get an error. Mitch Hodges 601HDS (working on the wings)


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    Time: 01:38:02 PM PST US
    From: Tebenkof@aol.com
    Subject: Re: acrylic to aluminum cement ?
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com Paul, Have not used it yet, but obtained Sikaflex, and appropriate cleaner and primer, from Fisheries Supply in Seattle. They were good to work with. The reports about it sure sound good. I am going to try it with the 701 even though I don't have a real canopy to deal with. JIm Greenough 701/ PDX


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    Time: 05:18:45 PM PST US
    From: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
    Subject: XL Rudder fairing
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com> Fellow fiberglass itchers, There's been some people that have attached the fiberglass rudder fairing to the rear topskin -- by putting the fiberglass piece on top of the rear skin, instead of under it. This seems like a better idea, as I dont see any way to get the tucked-under fairing off without pulling the rudder. And someone suggested putting the up-elevator cable turnbuckle under that fairing, for easier adjustment. Sounds like a great idea. Has anyone found any down-side to this plan?? Thanks in advance, Tio Rico, XL/3300, nearing the end of the fuse.... do not archive the question http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs


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    Time: 06:37:32 PM PST US
    From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
    Subject: Re: XL Rudder fairing
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> I feel funny answering this question since I am not anywhere near facing this problem -- I am just completing my tail parts. My rudder faring included in the kit is a sheet of aluminum. Either this has changed or I just don't understand what the issue is here. Perhaps using a sheet of metal instead of the fiberglass is the new way to do this? Paul XL barely started >There's been some people that have attached the fiberglass >rudder fairing to the rear topskin -- by putting the >fiberglass piece on top of the rear skin, instead of under >it. This seems like a better idea, as I dont see any way >to get the tucked-under fairing off without pulling the >rudder.


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    Time: 07:20:37 PM PST US
    From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
    Subject: XL Rudder fairing
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca> Hi Folks , I'm just leaving for Oshkosh, I hope to see many of you there and catch up with the rest of you here when I get back. As soon as possible I will post Pictures on the www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com websites. Mark Townsend Can-Zac Aviation Ltd. president@can-zacaviation.com www.can-zacaviation.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL Rudder fairing --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> I feel funny answering this question since I am not anywhere near facing this problem -- I am just completing my tail parts. My rudder faring included in the kit is a sheet of aluminum. Either this has changed or I just don't understand what the issue is here. Perhaps using a sheet of metal instead of the fiberglass is the new way to do this? Paul XL barely started >There's been some people that have attached the fiberglass >rudder fairing to the rear topskin -- by putting the >fiberglass piece on top of the rear skin, instead of under >it. This seems like a better idea, as I dont see any way >to get the tucked-under fairing off without pulling the >rudder.


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    Time: 08:17:57 PM PST US
    From: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
    Subject: Re: XL Rudder fairing
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com> Mark and Dave will have a cell phone at Osh... if you need to reach them while you are there - or help in getting to the dinner, the number is 920 256 9136 Stay connected! Thanks Jon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: XL Rudder fairing > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca> > > Hi Folks , I'm just leaving for Oshkosh, I hope to see many of you there > and catch up with the rest of you here when I get back. As soon as > possible I will post Pictures on the www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com > websites. > > Mark Townsend > Can-Zac Aviation Ltd. > president@can-zacaviation.com > www.can-zacaviation.com > >


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    Time: 08:21:24 PM PST US
    From: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: XL Rudder fairing
    --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com> > My rudder faring included in the kit is a sheet of > aluminum. Paul, I wonder if you're looking at the leading edge of the rudder -- it is a sheet. The part I'm interested in is the molded fiberglass piece that blends the rear topskin up to the rudder leading edge (p/n B-21-5, I think). I dont see how they could make it from alum. sheet. do not archive http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs




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