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1. 04:29 AM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Crvsecretary@AOL.COM)
2. 06:28 AM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Matt & Jo)
3. 07:22 AM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Paul Hartl)
4. 09:17 AM - Re: 601XL Main gear routing (Heat Treating?) (Lincoln Probst)
5. 10:29 AM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Thilo Kind)
6. 10:52 AM - Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (MElrod3732@aol.com)
7. 11:02 AM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (LINLARMAYES@aol.com)
8. 11:35 AM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Robert Schoenberger)
9. 11:45 AM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
10. 11:50 AM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (Bill Cardell)
11. 12:06 PM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Leo Corbalis)
12. 12:54 PM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (kenneth smith)
13. 01:33 PM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (Thilo Kind)
14. 01:51 PM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (Paul Mulwitz)
15. 04:05 PM - Re: Best Way To Store Kit (Tebenkof@aol.com)
16. 05:48 PM - 701 Slats (Tommy Walker)
17. 07:11 PM - Re: 601XL Main gear routing (Gary Gower)
18. 08:03 PM - Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Re: Best Way To Store Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Hello Dave:
My problem isn not quite as big as yours, as I am receiveing the kit
components as I can afford them. The Tail kit was not a challenge, but the wing
kit
does have 12 foot long components. What a coinsidence that I built a 12
foot x 4 foot workbench....the floor of the crate fit right undernieth my
workbench after I stripped off the top and walls !
I would definitely inventory the contents of the crate and label each box
and large component with the subassembly where it is required. Get a big Magic
marker and label "WINGS" on the fuel tanks and spars, "TAIL on the
horizontal stabilizer skin, "CANOPY"...etc.
In the beginning you'll spend a LOT of time searching for small parts...time
spent here will save you a LOT of time later...especially when you can't
find something and you're not quite sure if it was in the original shipment.
The factory is VERY good at shipping complete kits. My wing kit only had 1/4"
grommets on backorder when I received it...and the grommets showed up in a
week....no complaints from me !!!
Have a great time at the workshop !!
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl N458XL (reserved)
do not archive
In a message dated 7/31/2005 12:38:25 AM Eastern Standard Time,
davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
<davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
I'll be picking up my 601 XL kit at the August workshop. The kit will not
be crated, because the crate would not fit in my van. I'm concerned about
how I should store the kit in my garage when I get home. I'm not too crazy
about just setting items on the floor. My garage is dry, but I'm concerned
about causing damage when moving around in the garage to obtain tools, etc.
I don't want to spend time and money putting up shelving unless its
necessary. Has anyone else out there had the same situation, and what was
your solution?
Thanks,
Dave Van Lanen
Madison, WI
601 XL - kit ordered, attending August workshop
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Time spent inventorying and organizing is worth it. I spent a whole day
going through the inventory and separating parts into boxes. I did find a
couple of missing parts. Called ZAC and they sent them right away. I did
take some time to build shelves and I am glad I did. I also built a rack
above my garage door. It is big enough to store a lot of the flat stock. I
put the long pieces under my bench. It is 4 X 12 and is on wheels.
The adventure begins. Good luck
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
> I'll be picking up my 601 XL kit at the August workshop. The kit will not
> be crated, because the crate would not fit in my van. I'm concerned about
> how I should store the kit in my garage when I get home. I'm not too
> crazy
> about just setting items on the floor.
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| Subject: | Re: Best Way To Store Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Hartl" <paulhartl@cox.net>
Hi Dave,
If you're building in a 1-car garage as I did, definitely BUILD SHELVES!
You will need all the storage space you can contrive to build, and then some,
before you are finished. I also found it helpful to carefully lean large sheets
of aluminum that I planned to be using in the near future up against
the garage wall with some of the large cardboard sheets that it was shipped in
out front as protection.
I am a witness to Zenith's claim that a Zodiac can be made in a 1-car garage,
but that being said, it will take some ingenuity to do so, and expect to be climbing
around and under that fuselage a good deal as you get near the finish line!
Good luck, and have fun!
- Paul
--
Paul Hartl, N414PZ, 601HDS/Jabiru 3300A
Flight Simulator 2002/4 Zodiac Website: www.members.cox.net/paulhartl
Sun Valley, Idaho 83340 208-788-9147
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Main gear routing (Heat Treating?) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Lincoln Probst <elprobst@yahoo.com>
Ahh - I realize from this that I was confusing two things-- one that Townsend said,
routing a channel in the gear to "hide" the brake lines, and the plans which say
route the edges of the gear to round it.
Seems like a carbide bit could do the channel well enough-- is entirely for looks,
to make the brake lines look "finished" instead of hanging out.
Not sure which way I'll go just yet...
Lincoln
www.1Linc.com
--- N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
>
> Maybe the drawings have changed since I got mine, but 6-G-3-1 clearly says "Cold
> Bend" for the main gear. This is the way I had mine bent (cold). There's no
> mention of "heat treating."
>
> As for cutting 6061-T6 aluminum with a router and a carbide-tipped bit, it cuts
> like butter. A jig can easily be made to cut a groove in the gear edge if
> desired. I routed the edges (as described in the drawing as "Routered Edge")
of
> my main gear with no problem. It does make a mess of aluminum chips on the floor.
>
>
> Compared to most of the parts of the 601XL, the main gear is a huge, heavy hunk
of
> aluminum. Routing a 1/4" groove in the trailing or leading edge won't affect
it
> structurally for our application.
>
> Happy Building,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
> Engine Assembly in Progress
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>
>
> I understand the landing gear part you refer to is a heat treated
> metal part. This is not the kind of material your router was
> designed to cut.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Best Way To Store Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi Dave,
I used the atic above the garage for some shelves. Finished components too
large for the attic such as the wings and the fuselage were stored at racks
in the garage. You certainly need all the space you can get for the
building.
Good luck and tons of fun - it's well worth the effort
Thilo Kind
still with a big grin from a nice flight in my CH 601 HDS yesterday -
hunting gliders is fun!!!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Best Way To Store Kit
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
<davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
>
> I'll be picking up my 601 XL kit at the August workshop. The kit will not
> be crated, because the crate would not fit in my van. I'm concerned about
> how I should store the kit in my garage when I get home. I'm not too
crazy
> about just setting items on the floor. My garage is dry, but I'm
concerned
> about causing damage when moving around in the garage to obtain tools,
etc.
> I don't want to spend time and money putting up shelving unless its
> necessary. Has anyone else out there had the same situation, and what was
> your solution?
>
> Thanks,
> Dave Van Lanen
> Madison, WI
> 601 XL - kit ordered, attending August workshop
>
>
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| Subject: | Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny from Skyshops
told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would reimburse me, but
I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm allen head bolt with a
shank length of 135mm.
I've already tried Aircraft Spruce and Wicks to no avail.
I would appreciate any hints on where to look next.
Thanks in advance,
Mike Elrod
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: LINLARMAYES@aol.com
Maybe go back to Danny?
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| Subject: | Re: Best Way To Store Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger" <hrs1@frontiernet.net>
Dave. . . . if you have trusses, 24" on center above your garage, consider a
narrow pull down stairs and some plywood on the trusses above. This should
be good for a lot of small parts. Robert Schoenberger 701 do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Best Way To Store Kit
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I used the atic above the garage for some shelves. Finished components too
> large for the attic such as the wings and the fuselage were stored at
> racks
> in the garage. You certainly need all the space you can get for the
> building.
>
> Good luck and tons of fun - it's well worth the effort
>
> Thilo Kind
> still with a big grin from a nice flight in my CH 601 HDS yesterday -
> hunting gliders is fun!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave VanLanen" <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Best Way To Store Kit
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
> <davevanlanen@sbcglobal.net>
>>
>> I'll be picking up my 601 XL kit at the August workshop. The kit will
>> not
>> be crated, because the crate would not fit in my van. I'm concerned
>> about
>> how I should store the kit in my garage when I get home. I'm not too
> crazy
>> about just setting items on the floor. My garage is dry, but I'm
> concerned
>> about causing damage when moving around in the garage to obtain tools,
> etc.
>> I don't want to spend time and money putting up shelving unless its
>> necessary. Has anyone else out there had the same situation, and what
>> was
>> your solution?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Van Lanen
>> Madison, WI
>> 601 XL - kit ordered, attending August workshop
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Hello Mike.
I will be traveling to Florida from Iceland next week.
I could buy the bolts for you here and send them to you when I get to
Florida.
Just contact me and let me know If I can help.
Best regards,
Johann G.
Iceland.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
> Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
> forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny from
> Skyshops
> told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would reimburse
> me, but
> I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm allen head bolt
> with a
> shank length of 135mm.
> I've already tried Aircraft Spruce and Wicks to no avail.
> I would appreciate any hints on where to look next.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike Elrod
>
>
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| Subject: | Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Cardell" <Bill@flyinmiata.com>
Manhattan supply company or metric and multistandard come to mind.
Should be easily googled. Maybe Grainger?
TurboDog's Dad
Bill Cardell
www.flyinmiata.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
MElrod3732@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Metric prop bolts-where to buy?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny from
Skyshops told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would
reimburse me, but I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm
allen head bolt with a shank length of 135mm.
I've already tried Aircraft Spruce and Wicks to no avail.
I would appreciate any hints on where to look next.
Thanks in advance,
Mike Elrod
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| Subject: | Re: Best Way To Store Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Corbalis <leocorbalis@sbcglobal.net>
I took the top off the crate and built a top from 4 1X6 straight boards and 1 1/2
sheets of 3/4 plywood. I used 2 double pullys on each end to lift the top.
I stored the wings nd tail in the rafters until the fuselage was done.
Leo Corbalis
Robert Schoenberger <hrs1@frontiernet.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robert Schoenberger"
---------------------------------
Dave. . . . if you have trusses, 24" on center above your garage, consider a
narrow pull down stairs and some plywood on the trusses above. This should
be good for a lot of small parts. Robert Schoenberger 701 do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thilo Kind"
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Best Way To Store Kit
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind"
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> I used the atic above the garage for some shelves. Finished components too
> large for the attic such as the wings and the fuselage were stored at
> racks
> in the garage. You certainly need all the space you can get for the
> building.
>
> Good luck and tons of fun - it's well worth the effort
>
> Thilo Kind
> still with a big grin from a nice flight in my CH 601 HDS yesterday -
> hunting gliders is fun!!!
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave VanLanen"
> To:
> Subject: Zenith-List: Best Way To Store Kit
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen"
>
>>
>> I'll be picking up my 601 XL kit at the August workshop. The kit will
>> not
>> be crated, because the crate would not fit in my van. I'm concerned
>> about
>> how I should store the kit in my garage when I get home. I'm not too
> crazy
>> about just setting items on the floor. My garage is dry, but I'm
> concerned
>> about causing damage when moving around in the garage to obtain tools,
> etc.
>> I don't want to spend time and money putting up shelving unless its
>> necessary. Has anyone else out there had the same situation, and what
>> was
>> your solution?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dave Van Lanen
>> Madison, WI
>> 601 XL - kit ordered, attending August workshop
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: kenneth smith <lrepilot@yahoo.com>
Mc Master Carr has all kinds of screws. Alloy steel screws (174 ksi tensile).
M8x130mm long part# 91290A474 $8.19 per pack of 5
M8x140mm long part# 91290A474 $8.82 per pack of 5
Ken
MElrod3732@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny from Skyshops
told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would reimburse me, but
I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm allen head bolt with a
shank length of 135mm.
I've already tried Aircraft Spruce and Wicks to no avail.
I would appreciate any hints on where to look next.
Thanks in advance,
Mike Elrod
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| Subject: | Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Thilo Kind" <thilo.kind@gmx.net>
Hi Mike,
ACE hardware stores carry metric bolts. You also might want to try
automotive stores, since most of the cars from Detroit are now build with
metric stuf. Very important: on the head of the screws you will find a
stamped number, typicially looking something like 8.8 or 12.10. This number
indicates the mechanical properties of the bolt (tensile strength, etc.).
Make sure, you buy the exact type (same number) of bolts, than what Skyshop
sent you.
Good luck
Thilo Kind
from good o'le Europe, where metric screws are not a problem at all - lot's
of that stuff around. But try to find a standard screw.... oh boy
----- Original Message -----
From: <MElrod3732@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Metric prop bolts-where to buy?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
> Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
> forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny from
Skyshops
> told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would reimburse
me, but
> I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm allen head bolt
with a
> shank length of 135mm.
> I've already tried Aircraft Spruce and Wicks to no avail.
> I would appreciate any hints on where to look next.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike Elrod
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
>forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny
>from Skyshops
>told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would
>reimburse me, but
>I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm allen head bolt with a
>shank length of 135mm.
Do you know what strength bolts you need?
If my memory serves me correctly, normal hardware-store bolts have a
tensile strength of 50,000 psi. The grades go up to the A/N aircraft
grade bolts that have around 160,000 psi strength.
I have read of an aircraft accident where hardware store bolts were
used to mount a prop by someone trying to save money. He died on his
first flight thanks to prop separation at low altitude.
Paul
XL barely started
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| Subject: | Re: Best Way To Store Kit |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
Dave,
I picked my kit up the same way. Most parts I left in the boxes they came
in after inventorying then (that you must do). I numbered the boxes and on
the parts list in wrote in the box number for each part, to narrow the search
for each later, when needed. Larger parts I hung various places on the walls
or put in existing cabinets or on shelves, in each case noting on the parts
list where I put the part. The skins I was able to place flat on a shelf I
built under the 12x4 table I had built for construction.
Good luck with it, and have fun building.
One other thing. Because I picked up the kit un-crated I did not get all
the scrap aluminum most people talk about fiding in the bottom of the crate.
You might ask about that at the time you pick it up. It is worth having, and
worth not paying shipping for later.
Jim Greenough
701/PDX
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
The design for attaching the slats to the wing leading edge brackets on the
701 call for a 16 (+- 2) mm clearance on the trailing edge of the slat.
This is a range of 14-18 mm for the edge distance. I plan to ask Nicholas
at Zenith, but wanted to know what some of the 701 builders were getting for
this distance. The closest I've been able to get using the templates is 20
mm.
Any tips and/or advice would be welcome.
Thanks,
Tommy Walker in Alabama
Do Archive
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Main gear routing |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
There is no problem (structural talking) or dificult at all, to make the 1/4"
channel in the rear, of the gear legs to hide the brake line... in fact is
not a hard metal to do it.
We made the channels using our Brdgeport tool, because we have it, not that
is needed.
Thew most important thing is how to get the gear and the tool (router, good size
vertical dril, etc) mated to prevent from "bouncing" or getting out of place,
because can be dangerous as any power tool.
At the end of each chanel, one in the fuselage side and one in the brake side
we made two little holes each side of the channel to secure the line with a little
of safety wire. works great.
This is more dificult to explain that to do...
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Lincoln Probst <elprobst@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Lincoln Probst
Ahh - I realize from this that I was confusing two things-- one that Townsend said,
routing a channel in the gear to "hide" the brake lines, and the plans which say
route the edges of the gear to round it.
Seems like a carbide bit could do the channel well enough-- is entirely for looks,
to make the brake lines look "finished" instead of hanging out.
Not sure which way I'll go just yet...
Lincoln
www.1Linc.com
--- N5SL wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL
>
> Maybe the drawings have changed since I got mine, but 6-G-3-1 clearly says "Cold
> Bend" for the main gear. This is the way I had mine bent (cold). There's no
> mention of "heat treating."
>
> As for cutting 6061-T6 aluminum with a router and a carbide-tipped bit, it cuts
> like butter. A jig can easily be made to cut a groove in the gear edge if
> desired. I routed the edges (as described in the drawing as "Routered Edge")
of
> my main gear with no problem. It does make a mess of aluminum chips on the floor.
>
>
> Compared to most of the parts of the 601XL, the main gear is a huge, heavy hunk
of
> aluminum. Routing a 1/4" groove in the trailing or leading edge won't affect
it
> structurally for our application.
>
> Happy Building,
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
> Engine Assembly in Progress
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>
>
> I understand the landing gear part you refer to is a heat treated
> metal part. This is not the kind of material your router was
> designed to cut.
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Metric prop bolts-where to buy? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
If you want my personal point of view, If he cant get the proper size and stength...
Is very easy for Johann to get them. In Europe you can find all of them.
Any Ultralight Club, Store or repair shop have them in stock.
In propellers, Automotive Grade 5 bolts can be safely used with wood props, because
once they are properly torqued, there is no shear force in the bolt. Because
the complete propeller "face" will make contact with the hub and prevent
it from sliping.
Saludos
Gary Gower
Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>
>Hi fellow builders: The prop bolts that were included in the firewall
>forward kit I bought from Skyshops are about 5mm too short. Danny
>from Skyshops
>told me to buy some that are the correct length and he would
>reimburse me, but
>I am having a hard time locating them. I need an 8mm allen head bolt with a
>shank length of 135mm.
Do you know what strength bolts you need?
If my memory serves me correctly, normal hardware-store bolts have a
tensile strength of 50,000 psi. The grades go up to the A/N aircraft
grade bolts that have around 160,000 psi strength.
I have read of an aircraft accident where hardware store bolts were
used to mount a prop by someone trying to save money. He died on his
first flight thanks to prop separation at low altitude.
Paul
XL barely started
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