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1. 12:43 AM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
2. 02:30 AM - lead times (peter.barthold@t-online.de)
3. 02:52 AM - Re: lead times (Crvsecretary@aol.com)
4. 03:39 AM - Re: lead times (Chip W. Erwin)
5. 04:24 AM - Re: lead times (Gary A. Boothe)
6. 04:30 AM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (Larry Portouw)
7. 04:40 AM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (Zodie Rocket)
8. 04:40 AM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (Scott Nelson)
9. 05:37 AM - Re: lead times (peter.barthold@t-online.de)
10. 06:21 AM - Re: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info (Paul Moore)
11. 06:37 AM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (Larry)
12. 08:58 AM - Re: Re: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info (Jonathan Starke)
13. 09:30 AM - 701 pilot height and weight... (Bima, Martin)
14. 11:34 AM - Re: 701 pilot height and weight... (Larry McFarland)
15. 01:14 PM - Re: Re: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info (Carlos Sa)
16. 02:09 PM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight (roy vickski)
17. 02:22 PM - Re: In Ear Headsets ()
18. 03:51 PM - 0-235 Prop (John Anderson)
19. 04:52 PM - Re: 0-235 Prop (Randy Stout)
20. 05:55 PM - Re: 0-235 Prop (Jeffrey Glasserow)
21. 06:55 PM - Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (Al Young)
22. 07:24 PM - OT for AL: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions (Zodie Rocket)
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Hello Jeff.
I have not had much experiance in my 701 but I am 6'1" and weigh around
190 lbs. I flew with a 230 lbs. guy in a 10-15 knots wind and around 50
deg F. The engine is a Rotax 912 UL.
We had 5 gallons of fuel and the performance was ok. Around 500 feet climb
performance and used only 150 feet for take off on a paved surface. I
would like to see other aircraft do that.
I have the curved doors so the shoulder width is fine with two persons of
this size. I can not say if you will be confortable with the knees and the
dash, but you could do some modifications on the seats and dash to soute
your needs.
I think the Zenith 701 is a great performer with this setup.
Best of luck with your decision.
Johann G.
Iceland.
www.gi.is/fis
>
> I'm giving very serious thought to building a CH701. I've done a
> substantial amount of research, but I'm looking for an opinion I
> haven't seen commented on anywhere. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh about
> 230lbs. Will I be comfortable? Will my head and/or knees hit
> anything? Is my weight too great to carry a normal load of "stuff"
> along with a passenger? I know the limit is 500lbs, and I can
> certainly do the math of "500 minus 230 minus <wife's weight>", but
> looking for opinions as to how the plane behaves at close to the 500lb
> limit. I'd also love to find someone nearby who would let me sit in his
> 701 for about sixty seconds.
>
> --
> -=jeff=-
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "peter.barthold@t-online.de" <peter.barthold@t-online.de>
Gentlemen,
I hereby delurk !
I am currently 1 year into my HDS Project and some longer time lurking
around here. Until today, virtually all of my beginners questions could
be answered through this great list and its archive. Thanks to all and
especially to Matt for this most valuable source of information.
However, I'm a slow builder working from partial kits. Now I ordered my
outer wing kit and got a lead time of 3 months. This is a long time
without aluminium toys in the shop, even for me. I have to buy
from Czech Aircraft Works via the local dealer (Germany). Is this long
lead time common elsewhere? Is a down payment for a partial kit common?
Best Regards
Peter Barthold, Germany
CH601 HDS TD, VW conv.
Tail completed.
www.petersprojekt42.de (sorry, mostly German)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Crvsecretary@aol.com
Hello Peter, and welcome !
Lead times vary, but I suspect yours is longer than most for a variety of
reasons:
- the summer months are the BUSY months at the factory
- factory resources are limited
- even though all orders are build-to-order, XL demand is far greater than
HDS demand and if there is a part or component shortage, that will extend
lead times
- I'm guessing your 3 month lead time includes transit time across the pond
via ship, and that takes 5 weeks
I waited 8 weeks for my wing kit, and that was in May !
The kit is worth the wait.
Tracy Smith
Naugatuck, CT
601xl N458XL (reserved)
do not archive
In a message dated 9/7/2005 5:31:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
peter.barthold@t-online.de writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "peter.barthold@t-online.de"
<peter.barthold@t-online.de>
Gentlemen,
I hereby delurk !
I am currently 1 year into my HDS Project and some longer time lurking
around here. Until today, virtually all of my beginners questions could
be answered through this great list and its archive. Thanks to all and
especially to Matt for this most valuable source of information.
However, I'm a slow builder working from partial kits. Now I ordered my
outer wing kit and got a lead time of 3 months. This is a long time
without aluminium toys in the shop, even for me. I have to buy
from Czech Aircraft Works via the local dealer (Germany). Is this long
lead time common elsewhere? Is a down payment for a partial kit common?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chip W. Erwin" <aircraft@czaw.cz>
Dear Peter,
Czech Aircraft Works builds many Zenair aircraft from scratch each and every
month. We have a very large stock of parts to support our production. For
the few customers in Europe that choose to build from a kit we can deliver 2
days from the order. Everything you need except for the outboard wings is
here and in stock. As we do not make the HDS wings we have to buy these ribs
from Zenith. That is the reason for the delay. And yes, deposits are common
for special orders.
I am sure we can ship you the HDS o/b wing kit sooner than 3 months but we
like to make conservative estimates.
While you are waiting for your wing parts we can supply you with any other
items or sub kits including firewall forward packages, instruments,
upholstery kits, etc.
Regards,
CHIP
Chip W. Erwin
CZECH AIRCRAFT WORKS
LUCNI 1824
686 02
STARE MESTO, CZECH REPUBLIC
TEL: +420 572 543 456
FAX: +420 572 543 692
USA FAX: 772-264-0936
Mobile: +420 602 342 717
E-MAIL: AIRCRAFT@CZAW.CZ
WWW.AIRPLANE.CZ
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "peter.barthold@t-online.de"
<peter.barthold@t-online.de>
Gentlemen,
I hereby delurk !
I am currently 1 year into my HDS Project and some longer time lurking
around here. Until today, virtually all of my beginners questions could
be answered through this great list and its archive. Thanks to all and
especially to Matt for this most valuable source of information.
However, I'm a slow builder working from partial kits. Now I ordered my
outer wing kit and got a lead time of 3 months. This is a long time
without aluminium toys in the shop, even for me. I have to buy
from Czech Aircraft Works via the local dealer (Germany). Is this long
lead time common elsewhere? Is a down payment for a partial kit common?
Best Regards
Peter Barthold, Germany
CH601 HDS TD, VW conv.
Tail completed.
www.petersprojekt42.de (sorry, mostly German)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
Hi Peter,
I live in the states and 3 mos is exactly what I was told was the lead time.
Actually it turned out to be a little longer. I have just heard that the
wing kit is now at a local shipper and ready for pick up. Down payment was
required. Hope your wait is shorter. Good luck!
Gary Boothe, Cool, Ca
<gboothe@calply.com>
601HDSTD, WW Corvair Conv. - complete
Tail Group - complete. Awaiting wing kit...
----- Original Message -----
From: <peter.barthold@t-online.de>
Subject: Zenith-List: lead times
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "peter.barthold@t-online.de"
> <peter.barthold@t-online.de>
>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I hereby delurk !
> I am currently 1 year into my HDS Project and some longer time lurking
> around here. Until today, virtually all of my beginners questions could
> be answered through this great list and its archive. Thanks to all and
> especially to Matt for this most valuable source of information.
> However, I'm a slow builder working from partial kits. Now I ordered my
> outer wing kit and got a lead time of 3 months. This is a long time
> without aluminium toys in the shop, even for me. I have to buy
> from Czech Aircraft Works via the local dealer (Germany). Is this long
> lead time common elsewhere? Is a down payment for a partial kit common?
>
> Best Regards
>
> Peter Barthold, Germany
> CH601 HDS TD, VW conv.
> Tail completed.
> www.petersprojekt42.de (sorry, mostly German)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Portouw" <Larry@portouw.com>
Jeff,
I recommend you go sit in one. I'm 6'1" and about 215# and I have leg
room problems in the 701. I'm building a 601XL. I fit in there better (and
it meets my mission needs better).
Larry Portouw
601XL
Atlanta, GA
Time:
08:36:54 PM PST US
From:
Jeff Francis <jfrancis@gmail.com>
Subject:
CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jeff Francis <jfrancis@gmail.com>
I'm giving very serious thought to building a CH701. I've done a
substantial amount of research, but I'm looking for an opinion I
haven't seen commented on anywhere. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh about
230lbs. Will I be comfortable? Will my head and/or knees hit
anything? Is my weight too great to carry a normal load of "stuff"
along with a passenger? I know the limit is 500lbs, and I can
certainly do the math of "500 minus 230 minus <wife's weight>", but
looking for opinions as to how the plane behaves at close to the 500lb
limit. I'd also love to find someone nearby who would let me sit in
his
701 for about sixty seconds.
--
-=jeff=-
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| Subject: | CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Hi Jeff, as a 701 sits you should be able to fit into it but may feel a
bit cramped, one of the great things about building your own aircraft is
the fact that you can make it fit your needs, not every person is built
the same. For shoulder width, you need to add the new bubble doors,
though I would make that recommendation to ANYONE with a 701, there just
too nice, and allow a full 44" across the whole shoulder and upper arm
area. Headroom is not a problem up to a 7' person. Rudder pedals can
move 3" closer to the firewall, panel could be re-positioned a bit away
now that there is no header tank, that is more then enough to
accommodate your size with room to spare. Another thought would be to
add electric flapperons then the seat pan could be lowered
significantly, which would increase leg and head room. Have a seat in a
701 with all these things in mind, you will discover that there can be
more room in a 701 then in the 601 with a few minor changes, or you may
find that it fits quite well, really depends on what your used to. If
you are used to a Cessna 150 then the 701 will be big, If your used to a
Cessna 185 then a couple of changes mentioned above will give you the
same feeling of room.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jeff Francis <jfrancis@gmail.com>
I'm giving very serious thought to building a CH701. I've done a
substantial amount of research, but I'm looking for an opinion I
haven't seen commented on anywhere. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh about
230lbs. Will I be comfortable? Will my head and/or knees hit
anything? Is my weight too great to carry a normal load of "stuff"
along with a passenger? I know the limit is 500lbs, and I can
certainly do the math of "500 minus 230 minus <wife's weight>", but
looking for opinions as to how the plane behaves at close to the 500lb
limit. I'd also love to find someone nearby who would let me sit in his
701 for about sixty seconds.
--
-=jeff=-
--
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| Subject: | CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Scott Nelson" <scottn@dramaworks.ca>
Hi,
I don't own a 701 but I did sit in one at the eaa this year for about 20
mins. I'm 6'4" about 200lbs. I found that in the 'passenger/co-pilot'
seat the steel tube brace which crosses diagonally would rub my head if I
sat upright, but in the pilot seat it wasn't an issue since it doesn't cross
this area. Also, it was mentioned that if you install electronic flap
control you can lower the seat pan a couple more inches. With the bubble
doors installed it is really quite nice inside.
I spent most of my eaa time actually sitting in many ultralights / kit
planes for this exact reason. At 6'4" it's hard enough to find a car to fit
in and an ultralight is even harder. So, the 701 was actually the roomiest
plane out of all the ultralights I sat in. Some are so small inside that my
head had to stick out of the cockpit window or you need to somehow bend in
half but still see forward at the same time.....
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Francis
Subject: Zenith-List: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jeff Francis <jfrancis@gmail.com>
I'm giving very serious thought to building a CH701. I've done a substantial
amount of research, but I'm looking for an opinion I haven't seen commented
on anywhere. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh about 230lbs. Will I be comfortable?
Will my head and/or knees hit anything? Is my weight too great to carry a
normal load of "stuff"
along with a passenger? I know the limit is 500lbs, and I can certainly do
the math of "500 minus 230 minus <wife's weight>", but looking for opinions
as to how the plane behaves at close to the 500lb limit. I'd also love to
find someone nearby who would let me sit in his
701 for about sixty seconds.
--
-=jeff=-
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "peter.barthold@t-online.de" <peter.barthold@t-online.de>
Boy, THAT was fast!! :-)
Thank you for responses, everybody!
Chip, I didn't mean to sound nitpicking, that's why I asked here what's
common or not before I would come to you. Seems like I should have
ordered a month ago or solive and learnnext time I'll plan better.
Maybe I can start to work on my engine meanwhile.
Best Regards
Peter Barthold, Germany
CH601 HDS TD, VW conv.
Tail completed.
www.petersprojekt42.de (sorry, mostly German)
Oh, and I forgot this: DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | RE: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Carlos, I guess I missed your first post on these. They look like just the
thing, but I see they require a minimum sheet thickness of 0.062" and I
can't find any for sale anywhere. Do you know of any sources?
Paul
XL - O200
-----Original Message-----
From: Carlos Sa
Subject: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info
..
Months ago I posted links to Textron's version of a rivetless nut plate.
..
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
Don't forget you can move the dash forward a couple of inches too. That
helps with leg room.
Larry Martin, N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
> Hi Jeff, as a 701 sits you should be able to fit into it but may feel a
> bit cramped, one of the great things about building your own aircraft is
> the fact that you can make it fit your needs, not every person is built
> the same. For shoulder width, you need to add the new bubble doors,
> though I would make that recommendation to ANYONE with a 701, there just
> too nice, and allow a full 44" across the whole shoulder and upper arm
> area. Headroom is not a problem up to a 7' person. Rudder pedals can
> move 3" closer to the firewall, panel could be re-positioned a bit away
> now that there is no header tank, that is more then enough to
> accommodate your size with room to spare. Another thought would be to
> add electric flapperons then the seat pan could be lowered
> significantly, which would increase leg and head room. Have a seat in a
> 701 with all these things in mind, you will discover that there can be
> more room in a 701 then in the 601 with a few minor changes, or you may
> find that it fits quite well, really depends on what your used to. If
> you are used to a Cessna 150 then the 701 will be big, If your used to a
> Cessna 185 then a couple of changes mentioned above will give you the
> same feeling of room.
>
> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
> President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Jeff Francis <jfrancis@gmail.com>
>
> I'm giving very serious thought to building a CH701. I've done a
> substantial amount of research, but I'm looking for an opinion I
> haven't seen commented on anywhere. I'm 6'4" tall and weigh about
> 230lbs. Will I be comfortable? Will my head and/or knees hit
> anything? Is my weight too great to carry a normal load of "stuff"
> along with a passenger? I know the limit is 500lbs, and I can
> certainly do the math of "500 minus 230 minus <wife's weight>", but
> looking for opinions as to how the plane behaves at close to the 500lb
> limit. I'd also love to find someone nearby who would let me sit in his
> 701 for about sixty seconds.
>
> --
> -=jeff=-
>
>
> --
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
Hi all,
I too have looked at all the distributors etc, on their page, and none offer
credit card purchases, does anyone know were these can be purchased?
Thnx
Jonathan
Do not archive
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| Subject: | 701 pilot height and weight... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
Always sit in a plane before you buy. I am 6'4" and 200 lbs. I am a
lot of leg and did not do well at all in a 601 - knees hit the bottom
panel. I sat in a 701 and the only problem was head room - but not by
much.
I am lowering the seat pan, raising the ceiling and dumping my bulky
headset for an in-the-ear solution. I have also increased the useful
load of my plane by investing in a treadmill and eating a salad once in
a while. So far, I have increased fuel load by almost 3 gallons.
Martin
www.mts.net/~embima
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| Subject: | Re: 701 pilot height and weight... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Congratulations Bima,
One of the most difficult things that affects performance of both
plane and pilot is off-loading excess weight. I was 235 once at
6'1" and now at 195, eat lots of salads, run 2 miles every other
day. Harder to do at 66, but so's loosing weight at my age having
to pass by the cookie jar 20 times a day.
Do you like the "headset in the ear solution" and is it effective with the
Zenith prop/engine you use? I'm considering a set for wife and I and
was concerned about not wanting to have any more hearing loss.
Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
Bima, Martin wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
>Always sit in a plane before you buy. I am 6'4" and 200 lbs. I am a
>lot of leg and did not do well at all in a 601 - knees hit the bottom
>panel. I sat in a 701 and the only problem was head room - but not by
>much.
>
>I am lowering the seat pan, raising the ceiling and dumping my bulky
>headset for an in-the-ear solution. I have also increased the useful
>load of my plane by investing in a treadmill and eating a salad once in
>a while. So far, I have increased fuel load by almost 3 gallons.
>
>
>Martin
>www.mts.net/~embima
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Cherry Rivetless Nut Plate Info |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Paul,
I sent a note to Textron, and received a reply this morning.
I couldn't get hold of them today, but as soon as I get some concrete news I'll
post it here.
In this document, I see minimum grip at 0.040" (see table on page 2).
https://etaf.textron.com/etaf/GetFile/ProductDocs.jsp/stdpage/Rivetless-Nutplate/CNP01.pdf
This will limit its applications.
Carlos
for now, do not archive
--- Paul Moore <pmoore505@msn.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>
> Carlos, I guess I missed your first post on these. They look like just the
> thing, but I see they require a minimum sheet thickness of 0.062" and I
> can't find any for sale anywhere. Do you know of any sources?
>
> Paul
> XL - O200
Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | Re: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: roy vickski <rvickski@yahoo.com>
Hello Jeff
Gee it just so happens I am building a 701 and I am
6'1" and 220, so I may have useful info regarding a
6,er I mean 701 :-)
Short and sweet, bottom line, if comfort is the goal
find one and sit in it before you do anything else.
My inseam is 32" I moved the pedals forward about 3"
my knees clear the dash panel just fine but my legs
come nowhere close to being able to extend straight,
my head is 2" from the ceiling with no padding in the
seat.
You are more that welcome to try mine on if you are
near southern lower Michigan
Roy 701 plans
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| Subject: | Re: In Ear Headsets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <jeffglass@starband.net>
I'm 6' and weigh 225. I fly a Ch601 HDS and headroom is a problem. I use
the LightSpeed L1 "in-ear" passive headset. I'm quite happy with it. I've
read reviews that say the Auricom headset is better, but I haven't been
able to try it. Price is about the same for each unit. The new
LightSpeed in-ear system is called the Mach 1 and costs about $525
retail. It's gotten rave reviews from guys who bought it at Oshkosh.
Whatever you do, stay away from Panther brand. They have a custom
earpieces but it takes 6-8 weeks to have it made and then many people have
had problems with the electronics.
The company is not particularly customer oriented, and getting them to
acknowledge a problem is very hard. I had ordered on of their headsets
and than canceled the order. I had to pay in full, up front. It took 7
months to get a refund and then only by intervention of American Express.
So, your best choices are Lightspeed and Auricom. Lightspeed is really a
stand up company. I had one of their older headsets and it just sort of
died. I sent it in for repair and they sent me a refurbished set ...at no
cost... My L1 set developed a short and when I called it in for warranty
instructions they said send it back... And sent me a new set overnight at
their expense.
If cost isn't an issue I'd go with the new Mach 1 from Lightspeed...
Jeff Glasserow
Ch 601 HDS
N6384E
> Do you like the "headset in the ear solution" and is it effective with
> the Zenith prop/engine you use? I'm considering a set for wife and I
> and was concerned about not wanting to have any more hearing loss.
>
> Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <ande437@bellsouth.net>
Hi,
Just finished the 42 nd delightful hour on my Revmaster 2100DQ powered
601HD. Finished it in the spring and flying it has brought only pleasant
surprises. Just acquired an 0-235 and would like comments from 0-235/601HD
owners on prop brand and specs. Maybe what performance you get with yours. I
would like to be in the middle of the cruise/climb range without buying
several props.
Thanks,
John Anderson
ande437@bellsouth.net
205-672-7152
N40087 601HD
Birmingham, AL
Do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Randy Stout <n282rs@earthlink.net>
Hi John
Don't leave us hanging like that. What kind of performance are you getting with
the 2100? Apparently you are not that happy with it since you are looking at
replacing it. I had a 2180 with a redrive on my HD. Takeoff was very impressive,
but forward speed was not. In order to go above 90 mph I had to nose down.
Also, I could not keep it cool enough. I ended up replacing it with a Corvair.
Have you considered a ground adjustable? I'm not sure if there are any HD's with
an o-235. I suspect that the performance will be similar to my Corvair conversion.
I have a 64" Warp Drive ground adjustable prop on it. On a hot day, I get
700 fpm @ 65 mph and a max speed of 120 mph if very light. I took it up to
7500 ft the other day and was getting 105 mph at full throttle, which I'll take
as 75% cruise. In level flight at lower altitudes, I have to pull back the throttle
a bit to keep from red lining the engine. I could add some more pitch,
but I like the climb where it is to get me above the South Texas heat quickly.
Randy Stout
n282rs "at" earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson <ande437@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 0-235 Prop
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <ande437@bellsouth.net>
Hi,
Just finished the 42 nd delightful hour on my Revmaster 2100DQ powered
601HD. Finished it in the spring and flying it has brought only pleasant
surprises. Just acquired an 0-235 and would like comments from 0-235/601HD
owners on prop brand and specs. Maybe what performance you get with yours. I
would like to be in the middle of the cruise/climb range without buying
several props.
Thanks,
John Anderson
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" <jeffglass@starband.net>
I've got an HDS with an 0-235 C2C. I use a 3 blade Warp Drive ground
adjustable prop set at 14.5 degrees for pitch. I get 800-1000'
FPM at 80 mph indicated. Gross weight, temp, density altitude, etc.does
effect climb but not that much. Top speed at 75% is an honest 110-112 mph.
Up higher at 7500' I also get about 105 indicated.
Jeff Glasserow
Ch 601 HDS
N6384E
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Randy Stout
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 0-235 Prop
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Randy Stout <n282rs@earthlink.net>
Hi John
Don't leave us hanging like that. What kind of performance are you getting
with the 2100? Apparently you are not that happy with it since you are
looking at replacing it. I had a 2180 with a redrive on my HD. Takeoff was
very impressive, but forward speed was not. In order to go above 90 mph I
had to nose down. Also, I could not keep it cool enough. I ended up
replacing it with a Corvair.
Have you considered a ground adjustable? I'm not sure if there are any HD's
with an o-235. I suspect that the performance will be similar to my Corvair
conversion. I have a 64" Warp Drive ground adjustable prop on it. On a hot
day, I get 700 fpm @ 65 mph and a max speed of 120 mph if very light. I took
it up to 7500 ft the other day and was getting 105 mph at full throttle,
which I'll take as 75% cruise. In level flight at lower altitudes, I have to
pull back the throttle a bit to keep from red lining the engine. I could add
some more pitch, but I like the climb where it is to get me above the South
Texas heat quickly.
Randy Stout
n282rs "at" earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
-----Original Message-----
From: John Anderson <ande437@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 0-235 Prop
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Anderson" <ande437@bellsouth.net>
Hi,
Just finished the 42 nd delightful hour on my Revmaster 2100DQ powered
601HD. Finished it in the spring and flying it has brought only pleasant
surprises. Just acquired an 0-235 and would like comments from 0-235/601HD
owners on prop brand and specs. Maybe what performance you get with yours. I
would like to be in the middle of the cruise/climb range without buying
several props.
Thanks,
John Anderson
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Kak- Great on the dates. When the time comes, you or larry will have to
help me make up a story to get her to go the Pigeon Forge. LOve you- dad
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Getting kinda personal here aren't you AL ? Well we all love you to,
when do you want all of the Zenith List at Pigeon Forge?
Mark
Please do not archive Al doesn't need a remiinder of this !
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Al Young
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: CH701 Pilot Height/Weight Questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Kak- Great on the dates. When the time comes, you or larry will have
to
help me make up a story to get her to go the Pigeon Forge. LOve you-
dad
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