---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 09/09/05: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:07 AM - 701 gear/strut fitting (M&K Gleason) 2. 09:20 AM - Re: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance (Lance Gingell) 3. 12:16 PM - Prop Balancer (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 4. 05:16 PM - 701 Long Range Fuel Option (doug kandle) 5. 06:41 PM - Re: 701 Long Range Fuel Option (ruruny@aol.com) 6. 08:50 PM - Work Table Height (Dave VanLanen) 7. 09:21 PM - Re: Work Table Height (Paul Mulwitz) 8. 09:31 PM - Re: Work Table Height (Gary A. Boothe) 9. 09:32 PM - Re: Work Table Height (Zodie Rocket) 10. 09:46 PM - Re: Work Table Height (N5SL) 11. 10:35 PM - Re: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance (Roger) 12. 11:08 PM - Re: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance (Roger Venables) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:07:43 AM PST US From: "M&K Gleason" Subject: Zenith-List: 701 gear/strut fitting --> Zenith-List message posted by: "M&K Gleason" Hi listers, I've encountered another frustrating delay in my project. The alignment between the wing strut and pick up plate on the gear/strut fitting is way off. I'd estimate it at 8 to 10 degrees. I noticed that a couple of other builders have encountered this problem. I figure I'll have to cut the pick up plate out and have it re-welded unless anyone else has a solution that has worked. I've e-mailed Zenith regarding this but haven't hear back from them as of yet. Mike G ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:20:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance From: "Lance Gingell" --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" Bill, No, its not painted yet. I'll be doing that soon after flying. I'm waiting for my DAR inspection. Hopefully that'll be in the next couple of weeks, but I don't have a date yet. I just stuck to the plans and didn't change anything. Also, the Skyshops seats are very light. I weigh a bit under 120lbs, so I expect that'll help performance too! ..lance ----------------------------- --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Lance, that's really great ! You got any paint on that plane ? ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:21 PM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Prop Balancer --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Dear Thread Friends, I want to check the balance on my Sensenich prop. I have seen the Buzz Master balancer sold from Airwolf. Seems like a really simple machine to build. Only needs to mill a 1 inch center slug and string the bubble from a line level. It can be seen in the Spruce Catalogue on page 173; or on 800-airwolf.com as p/n 2416. Anybody ever see one on these things used ? Anyone got an opinion on it's reliability? Hope everyone is doing well, Best regards, Bill ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:16:36 PM PST US From: doug kandle Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Long Range Fuel Option --> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle I will be starting on my wing soon and I have a question about the long range tank installation. I purchased the 4 tank option. I don't like the idea of having to feed the engine from each tank. I would rather pump from the outboard tanks into the inboard tanks. That way I can pump two of the tanks empty without having the engine run a tank dry. My Cessna 206 has Flint tip tanks, and this is how they work (you pump from the tips into the mains and feed the engine only through the mains). The Flint system uses two Facet pumps and some check valves. Have any of you installed a pump system like this in your wing? ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:00 PM PST US From: ruruny@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Re: 701 Long Range Fuel Option --> Zenith-List message posted by: ruruny@aol.com Doug, I have installed the 4 tank option in my completed wings. Thought about this setup feeding the mains but went with the Zenith design mostly because I would have no clue how to set this up and get it to work properly without a major delay in construction. The inboard tanks feed the square box gascolator with a drain behind pilot seat and exits to the selector. The outboard(aux) tanks feed to their own gascolator with drain located in same area. The selector is just in front of the seat and will be labeled I/B tanks O/B tanks OFF. In theory the tanks should drain evenly and seek level to eachother unless one wing is low. Although the O/B tanks are the option I would figure that these should be used first if all are filled. Right now though I am trying to figure out how to fit the 2 gascolators in behind the seat with out inteference to flap handle, rudder cable and stay clear of the tunnel. I'm using the rubber lines and fittings from Zenith which does not make it easy to stay clear of other things but will figure it out. This usually happens while shooting some hoops in front of the house or in a dream late at night. Brian ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:19 PM PST US From: "Dave VanLanen" Subject: Zenith-List: Work Table Height --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" I'm finally done with updating my workshop, and am now ready to build my work table. Those of you that are well along in your building process, can you tell me what you found to be the optimal table height for you? I'm average height (5' 10"). Thanks, Dave Van Lanen 601XL - rudder completed, finishing workshop preparation Do not archive ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:16 PM PST US From: Paul Mulwitz Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Work Table Height --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz I built my table the same height as my table saw. That way I could still use the table saw with the airplane table as an out-feed. I doubt it matters all that much how high the table is. On the other hand, it is reasonably important that the top is very flat. That way your airplane parts will not be twisted or warped. Good luck, Paul XL waiting for wing kit do not archive At 08:48 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" > > >I'm finally done with updating my workshop, and am now ready to build my >work table. Those of you that are well along in your building process, can >you tell me what you found to be the optimal table height for you? I'm >average height (5' 10"). > >Thanks, >Dave Van Lanen >601XL - rudder completed, finishing workshop preparation > >Do not archive > > --------------------------------------------- Paul Mulwitz 32013 NE Dial Road Camas, WA 98607 --------------------------------------------- ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:31:06 PM PST US From: "Gary A. Boothe" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Work Table Height --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" Dave, I am also 5' 10". After weeks of careful thought, evaluations of the weights and leverages involved in lifting and turning items, a close scrutiny of the anatomy and the effects of bending, pushing, leaning, etc., a diagramed calculation of the geometry of working on items that may be in the center of the table at various heights, I determined that the best working height for my table is: The exact height of my table saw, which is positioned at the end of the table. Happy building, Gary Boothe, Cool, Ca 601HDSTD, WW Corvair Conv. - complete Tail Group - complete. Awaiting wing kit... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave VanLanen" Subject: Zenith-List: Work Table Height > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" > > > I'm finally done with updating my workshop, and am now ready to build my > work table. Those of you that are well along in your building process, > can > you tell me what you found to be the optimal table height for you? I'm > average height (5' 10"). > > Thanks, > Dave Van Lanen > 601XL - rudder completed, finishing workshop preparation > > Do not archive > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:59 PM PST US From: "Zodie Rocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Work Table Height --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" http://www.ch601.org/tools/Visio-12%20foot%20work%20table.pdf Table height is specified in your builder's manual. I have two 12' in my shop one at waist height which is great for storage and small assemblies, and one at just above knee height which is great for large assemblies. David built his with the proper height set out in the manual and it truly the best setup I have worked on. Another handy thing is a rolling tray to hold tools/plans and coffee. It saves a lot of walking in the shop. Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751 President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave VanLanen Subject: Zenith-List: Work Table Height --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" I'm finally done with updating my workshop, and am now ready to build my work table. Those of you that are well along in your building process, can you tell me what you found to be the optimal table height for you? I'm average height (5' 10"). Thanks, Dave Van Lanen 601XL - rudder completed, finishing workshop preparation Do not archive -- -- ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 09:46:46 PM PST US From: N5SL Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Work Table Height --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL Dave: The only thing that really mattered in my building process was that the table had wheels on it. I had to move mine around quite a bit since I keep both cars and an airplane in my garage at night. Get the hard wheels and not the inflatable kind. I have to air mine up more than I would like. Here's what mine looked like in one of it's configurations (It went from 8' to 12' then to 6' long during it's life). http://www.cooknwithgas.com/5_25_03_WorkTable.jpg and here it is at 12': http://www.cooknwithgas.com/12_20_03_Rightwing.JPG I used 3/4" MDF from Lowes and 2x4's. The wheels came from Harbor Freight. Mine is 30" from floor to table top (762mm in ZAC-speak) - I'm 5'10" also and it seemed to work out fine for me. I have a corvair engine sitting on it right now Good luck, Scott Laughlin www.cooknwithgas.com Finishing up the Instr. Panel and piddling with the engine Dave VanLanen wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave VanLanen" I'm finally done with updating my workshop, and am now ready to build my work table. Those of you that are well along in your building process, can you tell me what you found to be the optimal table height for you? I'm average height (5' 10"). --------------------------------- Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:35:32 PM PST US From: Roger Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance --> Zenith-List message posted by: Roger Lance, Can you tell me where to find infomation on the Skyshops seats. Thank you roger -----Original Message----- From: Lance Gingell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" Bill, No, its not painted yet. I'll be doing that soon after flying. I'm waiting for my DAR inspection. Hopefully that'll be in the next couple of weeks, but I don't have a date yet. I just stuck to the plans and didn't change anything. Also, the Skyshops seats are very light. I weigh a bit under 120lbs, so I expect that'll help performance too! ..lance ----------------------------- --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Lance, that's really great ! You got any paint on that plane ? ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:08:11 PM PST US From: "Roger Venables" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roger Venables" Roger Try http://www.skyshops.org/Accessories.htm Roger Venables CH701 N143TZ : Tailfeathers complete, starting on slats and flaps -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance --> Zenith-List message posted by: Roger Lance, Can you tell me where to find infomation on the Skyshops seats. Thank you roger -----Original Message----- From: Lance Gingell Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" Bill, No, its not painted yet. I'll be doing that soon after flying. I'm waiting for my DAR inspection. Hopefully that'll be in the next couple of weeks, but I don't have a date yet. I just stuck to the plans and didn't change anything. Also, the Skyshops seats are very light. I weigh a bit under 120lbs, so I expect that'll help performance too! ..lance ----------------------------- --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Lance, that's really great ! You got any paint on that plane ?