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1. 03:27 PM - Re: rivet squeezer (William J. Naumuk)
2. 04:25 PM - magnetic compass filling (alex trent)
3. 04:35 PM - Bird Strike (Kelly Meiste)
4. 04:57 PM - Re: rivet squeezer (Carlos Sa)
5. 05:26 PM - Re: Bird Strike (Mike Fothergill)
6. 05:44 PM - Re: Bird Strike (Trevor Page)
7. 06:38 PM - Re: magnetic compass filling (Gary Gower)
8. 06:45 PM - Re: magnetic compass filling (Gary A. Boothe)
9. 06:55 PM - Re: rivet squeezer (David Alberti)
10. 10:55 PM - Re: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance (Roger)
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| Subject: | Re: rivet squeezer |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: rivet squeezer
Carlos-
If you're talking about the pin that goes between the two handles,
first, take the pin out. Then, go down to a good hardware store and get a
drill bit that will go through all the holes with the tightest fit of the
smooth part that you put in the drill chuck. The smooth part should extend
the handles by about 3/16" on both sides- make a mark on the bit.
VERY SLOWLY cut the smooth end of the bit off to your mark with a cutoff
wheel- cut a little bit, then dip the bit in a glass of water, and repeat
until the pieces separate. The whole idea is to keep from ruining the
hardness of the bit. If it turns blue, you went too fast. Knock off any
burrs from the end you just cut with a grinding wheel. Again, go slow and
keep the heat down.
Finally, I don't know what they're called (That's why you want to go to
a GOOD hardware store) but they make retaining clips that look like a star
washer that are crowned. Just push these down on both ends of your cut off
piece after it's in place between the handles and you're in business.
Good luck.
Bill
>
>
> Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
>
>
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| Subject: | magnetic compass filling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Just went through an interesting procedure attempting to fill my
compass. I noticed a very decided lack of fluid in my mag compass so
removed same with thoughts of remedying same. removed the back to see if
there may be a leak. Found the "rubber diaphram in a very advanced state
of decay. So off to A/S and an order for a new one. Around $10 plus
shipping etc. It duly arrived and I set out to refill the compass. From
past times I recalled that the fluid used was varsol .All went well
until I replaced the plug and found a large air bubble and no amount of
jiggling and fussing would improve the situation. Off to my trusty pc
and a query on the web for info on filling same. Found a fair bit of
info and one in particular that caimed I should have the compass and the
fluid cold. The theory being that when things warmed up the bubble would
shrink. Sounded reasonable so into the freezer with both and give a
couple of hours for things to cool down. Removed very cold items from
freezer and refilled compass once more. Much to my dissapointment it
was actually worse than before. Got to thinking (about time) that if
every thing was cold, ie:shrunk, that all would expand when returning
to normal temps and this would result in very litte difference from just
filling at room temp. That being the casse how about we freeze the fluid
or at least get it very cold and wam the compass. So now the compass
case would be expanded and the fluid would be shrunk. Wonder of wonders
worked like a charm. I still have a very small bubble but only a problem
If I decide to get the nose pointed straight for the ground in which
case it would be the least of my problems
alex t.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
My 601 HD had a head-on with a bird (unknown type) this weekend.
I was cruising at 90 MPH, and the bird came straight for me. I tried a fast roll
to my right to avoid a canopy hit, and was hit about 3/4th the way out on my
left wing. He hit pretty much "dead" center on my leading edge, and as luck would
have it squarely between the wing ribs so it was at the weakest spot. The
impact sounded like a softball hitting my wing, and my heart sunk as I imagined
my hours of work just caved in by a Kamikaze bird.
Once on the ground I slowly walked around the wing tip to inspect the damage. But
to my surprise there wasn't any! After a closer look I did find a slight (very
slight) imprint that was never there before.
As stated many times on this list Chris designs his planes to take a heck of a
beating and this is once again proof.
After I got home I did an achieve search to see if other bird strikes have ever
been reported on 601's. I really didn't see any but did come across the message
below posted Sept of 98.
How true!
Kelly Meiste
601 HD (plane - 1, birds - 0)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I learned to fly in a tomahawk and then bought a cessna 150. Put
just over 225 hours in the year I owned it. Nice aircraft, very
forgiving and did anything asked of it, but way to small. The tomahawk
was more fun to fly and visibility was to my liking, but didn't seem to
do to well with a max load. With this little experience I looked at
several (maybe hundreds) kits and came out with the 601 as having the
best traits of both. A friend of mine had a bird strike the other day on
his tomahawk and when I saw the inside of the wing, lets just say the
601 is much tougher and I have rented my last tomahawk.
Chuck
Victoria,TX
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| Subject: | Re: rivet squeezer |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Interesting idea, Bill.
On the other hand, Dick Neitzel suggested using an AN bolt - which does fit nicely,
I only have to
order a few with the proper grip length.
Question to the group: which one would be tougher, the drill bit material or the
AN bolt??
For now, do not archive
Carlos
--- "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: rivet squeezer
>
>
> Carlos-
> If you're talking about the pin that goes between the two handles,
> first, take the pin out. Then, go down to a good hardware store and get a
> drill bit that will go through all the holes with the tightest fit of the
> smooth part that you put in the drill chuck.
Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
I have been advisedby Mr. CH himself that if you encounter a bird, pull
up quickly. The birds always dive to avoid collision. Hawks and Seagulls
up to 3000 feet and then some.
Mike
C-FRND
UHS Spinners
Kelly Meiste wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
>
> My 601 HD had a head-on with a bird (unknown type) this weekend.
> I was cruising at 90 MPH, and the bird came straight for me. I tried a fast roll
to my right to avoid a canopy hit, and was hit about 3/4th the way out on
my left wing. He hit pretty much "dead" center on my leading edge, and as luck
would have it squarely between the wing ribs so it was at the weakest spot. The
impact sounded like a softball hitting my wing, and my heart sunk as I imagined
my hours of work just caved in by a Kamikaze bird.
> Once on the ground I slowly walked around the wing tip to inspect the damage.
But to my surprise there wasn't any! After a closer look I did find a slight
(very slight) imprint that was never there before.
> As stated many times on this list Chris designs his planes to take a heck of
a beating and this is once again proof.
> After I got home I did an achieve search to see if other bird strikes have ever
been reported on 601's. I really didn't see any but did come across the message
below posted Sept of 98.
> How true!
>
> Kelly Meiste
> 601 HD (plane - 1, birds - 0)
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> I learned to fly in a tomahawk and then bought a cessna 150. Put
> just over 225 hours in the year I owned it. Nice aircraft, very
> forgiving and did anything asked of it, but way to small. The tomahawk
> was more fun to fly and visibility was to my liking, but didn't seem to
> do to well with a max load. With this little experience I looked at
> several (maybe hundreds) kits and came out with the 601 as having the
> best traits of both. A friend of mine had a bird strike the other day on
> his tomahawk and when I saw the inside of the wing, lets just say the
> 601 is much tougher and I have rented my last tomahawk.
> Chuck
> Victoria,TX
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Man those birds can be deadly sometimes!
I was flying with a friend in a 601 last summer and we had a strike
right in the center of the canopy on a high-speed runway pass. I can
remember the *thud * sound and the bird going back-end over teakettle
with feathers flying all over the place. Killed him good.
Canopy was not damaged but we sure had a neat story to tell but I
don't wish it on anybody...
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD R912
On Sep 12, 2005, at 7:34 PM, Kelly Meiste wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste"
> <kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
>
> My 601 HD had a head-on with a bird (unknown type) this weekend.
> I was cruising at 90 MPH, and the bird came straight for me. I
> tried a fast roll to my right to avoid a canopy hit, and was hit
> about 3/4th the way out on my left wing. He hit pretty much "dead"
> center on my leading edge, and as luck would have it squarely
> between the wing ribs so it was at the weakest spot. The impact
> sounded like a softball hitting my wing, and my heart sunk as I
> imagined my hours of work just caved in by a Kamikaze bird.
> Once on the ground I slowly walked around the wing tip to inspect
> the damage. But to my surprise there wasn't any! After a closer
> look I did find a slight (very slight) imprint that was never there
> before.
> As stated many times on this list Chris designs his planes to take
> a heck of a beating and this is once again proof.
> After I got home I did an achieve search to see if other bird
> strikes have ever been reported on 601's. I really didn't see any
> but did come across the message below posted Sept of 98.
> How true!
>
> Kelly Meiste
> 601 HD (plane - 1, birds - 0)
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> I learned to fly in a tomahawk and then bought a cessna
> 150. Put
> just over 225 hours in the year I owned it. Nice aircraft, very
> forgiving and did anything asked of it, but way to small. The tomahawk
> was more fun to fly and visibility was to my liking, but didn't
> seem to
> do to well with a max load. With this little experience I looked at
> several (maybe hundreds) kits and came out with the 601 as having the
> best traits of both. A friend of mine had a bird strike the other
> day on
> his tomahawk and when I saw the inside of the wing, lets just say the
> 601 is much tougher and I have rented my last tomahawk.
> Chuck
> Victoria,TX
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: magnetic compass filling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
What has worked for me is pouring the "varsol" (sp?) in a little clean glass jar
just bigger than the compass, Sumerge the compass in the liquid and when the
bubles stop, put the plug.
No bubbles inside. Then clean the ouside of the compass and leave it over a cloth
overnight to drip.
Hope it helps.
Saludos
Gary Gower
alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent
Just went through an interesting procedure attempting to fill my
compass. I noticed a very decided lack of fluid in my mag compass so
removed same with thoughts of remedying same. removed the back to see if
there may be a leak. Found the "rubber diaphram in a very advanced state
of decay. So off to A/S and an order for a new one. Around $10 plus
shipping etc. It duly arrived and I set out to refill the compass. From
past times I recalled that the fluid used was varsol .All went well
until I replaced the plug and found a large air bubble and no amount of
jiggling and fussing would improve the situation. Off to my trusty pc
and a query on the web for info on filling same. Found a fair bit of
info and one in particular that caimed I should have the compass and the
fluid cold. The theory being that when things warmed up the bubble would
shrink. Sounded reasonable so into the freezer with both and give a
couple of hours for things to cool down. Removed very cold items from
freezer and refilled compass once more. Much to my dissapointment it
was actually worse than before. Got to thinking (about time) that if
every thing was cold, ie:shrunk, that all would expand when returning
to normal temps and this would result in very litte difference from just
filling at room temp. That being the casse how about we freeze the fluid
or at least get it very cold and wam the compass. So now the compass
case would be expanded and the fluid would be shrunk. Wonder of wonders
worked like a charm. I still have a very small bubble but only a problem
If I decide to get the nose pointed straight for the ground in which
case it would be the least of my problems
alex t.
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| Subject: | Re: magnetic compass filling |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
Alex,
Very timely post. Where do I get varsol?
Gary Boothe, Cool, Ca
<gboothe@calply.com>
601HDSTD, WW Corvair Conv. - complete
Tail Group - complete. Awaiting wing kit...supposed to be delivered
tomorrow...
----- Original Message -----
From: "alex trent" <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: magnetic compass filling
>... From
> past times I recalled that the fluid used was varsol ...
>
>
> --
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
The bolt is easier to find and probably cheaper, but by the time you wear
either out you will either have a fleet of kit built aircraft or my 2 year
old grand-daughter will graduate from college!!!:)
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Carlos Sa
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: rivet squeezer
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Interesting idea, Bill.
On the other hand, Dick Neitzel suggested using an AN bolt - which does fit
nicely, I only have to
order a few with the proper grip length.
Question to the group: which one would be tougher, the drill bit material or
the AN bolt??
For now, do not archive
Carlos
--- "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk"
<billn@velocity.net>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: rivet squeezer
>
>
> Carlos-
> If you're talking about the pin that goes between the two handles,
> first, take the pin out. Then, go down to a good hardware store and get a
> drill bit that will go through all the holes with the tightest fit of the
> smooth part that you put in the drill chuck.
Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | Re: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Roger <rspritchard@earthlink.net>
Lance,
Thank you (and all) for the information on upholstery.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lance Gingell <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac XL Weight & Balance
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lance Gingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
Roger,
Here's some info on Skyshops' seats:
http://skyshops.org/Accessories.htm
http://skyshops.org/601upholstery.htm
Cheers,
..lance
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