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1. 12:37 AM - Re: 912 OIL thermostat (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
2. 02:25 AM - NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (info@matronics.com)
3. 03:36 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (Hunt Malcolm)
4. 04:17 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (Gbrac80@aol.com)
5. 04:25 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (Rico Voss)
6. 04:41 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (ivor.phillips)
7. 05:58 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (Larry)
8. 06:11 AM - Re: fuel gauge (Leo Gates)
9. 06:54 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (Clyde Barcus)
10. 07:28 AM - Re: 701 with A65 engine (Brad Larson)
11. 07:39 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (Clmelenyzeriv@cs.com)
12. 07:39 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
13. 08:13 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** ()
14. 08:23 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (Gary Gower)
15. 08:39 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (N5SL)
16. 09:30 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. ()
17. 09:46 AM - Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** (Matt Dralle)
18. 10:08 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (Paul Mulwitz)
19. 10:20 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (Graham Kirby)
20. 10:52 AM - Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
21. 10:53 AM - Re: Cross SP Registration (Weston, Jim)
22. 10:59 AM - Re: Cross SP Registration (Ihab Awad)
23. 11:16 AM - Re: Cross SP Registration (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
24. 11:25 AM - Re: Cross SP Registration (Ihab Awad)
25. 11:40 AM - Re: Cross SP Registration (Bill Denton)
26. 12:17 PM - Re: Cross SP Registration (B Johnson)
27. 12:39 PM - Re: Cross SP Registration (Paul Mulwitz)
28. 12:54 PM - Re: Cross SP Registration (Rusty)
29. 01:36 PM - Brake fluid recommendations (MElrod3732@aol.com)
30. 02:36 PM - Re: Brake fluid recommendations (Chuck Deiterich)
31. 02:43 PM - 912 Cabin Heater (george may)
32. 03:21 PM - Re: Brake fluid recommendations (Larry McFarland)
33. 03:42 PM - Re: Brake fluid recommendations (Bill Denton)
34. 04:56 PM - Re: Brake fluid recommendations (Larry McFarland)
35. 05:48 PM - Re: Brake fluid recommendations (Kelly Meiste)
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| Subject: | 912 OIL thermostat |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Hello list members.
I just bought the oil thermostat from Lockwood and did not receive any
fittings. The fitting size is 1/2, and would like to know how people have
installed the thermostat in their Zenith 601/701 with the Rotax 912
installation. I will have to decide what kind of fittings I will need,
after I see some ideas of installation.
The reason for my question is mostly because this kind of fitting is not
awailable in Iceland, so I will need to order from supplyers in USA.
Another question regarding the water hoses for the Rotax 912.
I need to replace the lower water hoses from the water pump to cyl #2 and
cyl# 1. These hoses have a curve in them to avoid bending, because of the
positon of the water pump and the engine mount.
If there is a source other than Rotax, I would be very happy to know.
Just to tell you all how the Rotax prices tend to grow when the parts
arrive Iceland, I just bougt 12 O rings for the Cyl, intake manifold and
the valve covers. The total cost was $360. (ouch)
Thank you in advance.
Johann G.
Iceland.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hunt Malcolm" <Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk>
Matt
Nothing attached1
Malcolm
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rico Voss <vozzen@yahoo.com>
Malcolm,
This message has all the appearance of a spam/phishing
scam. The generous sponser of this forum (Matronics)
fortunately clips all attachments, for this very reason.
--Rico, XL/3300 do not archive
--- Hunt Malcolm <Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk> wrote:
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> Matt
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "ivor.phillips" <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
ITS A SPOOF
If a Attachment had got through Matts Firewall you bet your bottom Dollar it
would be infected with a virus!!
Ivor Phillips
XS486 London UK
CM Installed, rudder cables complete,
undercarriage fitted brakes working
flap tube fitted
wing lift pins fitted,tiebar fitted instrument
panel being finalised,
----- Original Message -----
From: <Gbrac80@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING**
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> NOTHING ATTACHED
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| Subject: | Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
Glad you like your new riveter. As long as you stick to the small aluminum
rivets (A4,A5), it will work fine. However, if you pull many larger rivets,
such as Cherry Max or stainless steal, then you need a better riveter. I
bought one of the light duty riveters and on about the fourth Cherry Max one
of the jaws broke. I took it apart and the jaws are pot metal. I looked at
my CH and the jaws are hardened steel. You get what you pay for.
Larry N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mulwitz" <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
> <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
> I just became a convert to the pneumatic riveter from Harbor Freight fan
> club.
>
> After doing all the tail feathers for my XL using Zenith's hand
> riveter I thought I was man enough to do the whole plane that
> way. However, some 200 A5 rivets in the first wing flap made me
> rethink that idea.
>
> I wound up buying the same Harbor Freight riveter many listers have
> praised for a whopping $20. It started marked down to $35 on the
> shelf, but I brought the current online price page showing $25 with
> me so I got another $10 off. Then there was the 20% off on one item
> from this week's email promotion which reduced it another $5.
>
> I used the new riveter today to complete the process from first to
> last rivet in the remaining wing flap in around 1 hour. I even had
> enough strength left in my hands after that to fix myself a drink and
> type this message.
>
> My heart-felt thanks to all those listers who praised this device. I
> am now convinced about what real bargain this tool is.
>
> Paul
> XL wings - flaps completed
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Paul Mulwitz
> 32013 NE Dial Road
> Camas, WA 98607
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>
> --
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Leo Gates" <leogates@allvantage.com>
Corrections to my original message that had one omission and one error:
Usable fuel remaining at 1/2 is 4.8 Gal. and NOT 48 Gal. :-)
Usable fuel remaining when the needle touches Empty is Zero. Actually 14 Oz
remains below the outlet that I suppose with some wing wagging could be fed
to the fuel pump.
Leo Gates
N601Z
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| Subject: | Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clyde Barcus" <barcusc@comcast.net>
I bought my riveter from ZAC and if has worked very well, however I did
break the jaws on A-6 rivets. I don't remember how many before it broke but
it didn't last more than a few minutes. I bought replacement jaws from ZAC,
from now on I will use a hand riveter on the rare occasion I use A-6 rivets.
Clyde Barcus
601 XL, Corvair Powered
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
>
> Glad you like your new riveter. As long as you stick to the small
> aluminum
> rivets (A4,A5), it will work fine. However, if you pull many larger
> rivets,
> such as Cherry Max or stainless steal, then you need a better riveter. I
> bought one of the light duty riveters and on about the fourth Cherry Max
> one
> of the jaws broke. I took it apart and the jaws are pot metal. I looked
> at
> my CH and the jaws are hardened steel. You get what you pay for.
> Larry N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Mulwitz" <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter.
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>> <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>>
>> I just became a convert to the pneumatic riveter from Harbor Freight fan
>> club.
>>
>> After doing all the tail feathers for my XL using Zenith's hand
>> riveter I thought I was man enough to do the whole plane that
>> way. However, some 200 A5 rivets in the first wing flap made me
>> rethink that idea.
>>
>> I wound up buying the same Harbor Freight riveter many listers have
>> praised for a whopping $20. It started marked down to $35 on the
>> shelf, but I brought the current online price page showing $25 with
>> me so I got another $10 off. Then there was the 20% off on one item
>> from this week's email promotion which reduced it another $5.
>>
>> I used the new riveter today to complete the process from first to
>> last rivet in the remaining wing flap in around 1 hour. I even had
>> enough strength left in my hands after that to fix myself a drink and
>> type this message.
>>
>> My heart-felt thanks to all those listers who praised this device. I
>> am now convinced about what real bargain this tool is.
>>
>> Paul
>> XL wings - flaps completed
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------
>> Paul Mulwitz
>> 32013 NE Dial Road
>> Camas, WA 98607
>> ---------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 701 with A65 engine |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
Dave,
Sorry it took so long to get back to you... I just got back from the
Boundary Waters Canoe Area...
I just purchased my 701 from a guy in IA. The CE in my N number is the
initials of the builder... Chip Erwin, who built it back in 89-92.
He originally had a 65hp Rotax in it until one of the owners (who never
flew it) took the rotax out and put it in an ultra-light.
The Continental was put in by the one who I purchased it from who never
had the major change listed with the FAA. I'm now awaiting a ruling on
what needs to be done before I can legally fly it.
I live 30 miles north of fargo, nd.
I was interested in how you felt on performance, what type of GPH you
are getting etc...
Brad.
Dave and Pam Fisher wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dave and Pam Fisher <dpfisher@scottsbluff.net>
>
>
>Hi brad & list,
>
>I've got an A65 which I've converted to an A80 mounted on my 701. I'm not
>in the air yet, ( 90% and holding). What were you curious about and where
>are you located ?
>
>Dave @ Gering , Nebraska, 308-783-1035
>
>
>
>
>>Time: 08:55:28 AM PST US
>>From: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>>Subject: Zenith-List: Any 701s with A65 engine
>>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>>
>>Subject it all....
>>
>>Brad Larson
>>N701CE
>>
>>
>>________________________________ Message
>>8 _____________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING** |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Clmelenyzeriv@cs.com
I am assuming that "confirm" means that I got the e-mail. If my assumption
is correct I did get the e-mail.
C. L. Melenyzer IV
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| Subject: | Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Paul, glad you liked the air riveter. I have a good friend that built his HD
with all hand pulled rivets. I counseled him not to mention this fact to
anyone as it did not really reflect well on his thinking process. Ha. Jim are you
there? Paul, something else you will need on the fuselage is a hand riveter
with a swivel head. Harbor Freight sells one for about $ 6.00 that I used.
What you do is grind down the top side of the head until you get it as flat as
you can because you will need it to rivet the bottom longdruns(sp) and splice
the top longdruns and various places on the firewall and others. Best regards,
Bill of Georgia
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <jeffglass@starband.net>
I'm confirming!
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> Please confirm the attached document!
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
I think it was a SPAM or a Virus or else, Thanks that the list will not recieve
attachments...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive
Hunt Malcolm <Malcolm.HUNT@networkrail.co.uk> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hunt Malcolm"
Matt
Nothing attached1
Malcolm
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
info@matronics.com
Subject: Zenith-List: NOTICE: **LAST WARNING**
--> Zenith-List message posted by: info@matronics.com
Please confirm the attached document!
Your attention is drawn to the fact that this email originated from a
source external to Network Rail.
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| Subject: | Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Bill reminded me of another must-have item from H.F. They sell an air connection
swivel that connects between the rivet gun and the air hose. It's usually
about $1.99 on sale and you will need exactly three to get through the fuselage
build. They have cheap o-rings and don't last forever. It's best just to have
a few extra swivels and change it out when you get a leak.
Here's a photo of it attached to my Harbor Freight Riveter:
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/Swivel.jpg
I can't imagine getting into some of the tight places without this swivel attachment.
Good luck,
Scott Laughlin
601XL/Corvair
Wiring and Stuff
www.cooknwithgas.com
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com wrote:
Paul, something else you will need on the fuselage is a hand riveter
with a swivel head. Harbor Freight sells one for about $ 6.00
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| Subject: | Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
Paul, do you have to have the nose piece machined concave to use that HF pneumatic
riveter?
Ed Moody II
>
> From: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
> Date: 2005/09/26 Mon PM 10:54:50 EDT
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter.
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
> I just became a convert to the pneumatic riveter from Harbor Freight fan club.
>
> After doing all the tail feathers for my XL using Zenith's hand
> riveter I thought I was man enough to do the whole plane that
> way. However, some 200 A5 rivets in the first wing flap made me
> rethink that idea.
>
> I wound up buying the same Harbor Freight riveter many listers have
> praised for a whopping $20. It started marked down to $35 on the
> shelf, but I brought the current online price page showing $25 with
> me so I got another $10 off. Then there was the 20% off on one item
> from this week's email promotion which reduced it another $5.
>
> I used the new riveter today to complete the process from first to
> last rivet in the remaining wing flap in around 1 hour. I even had
> enough strength left in my hands after that to fix myself a drink and
> type this message.
>
> My heart-felt thanks to all those listers who praised this device. I
> am now convinced about what real bargain this tool is.
>
> Paul
> XL wings - flaps completed
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------
> Paul Mulwitz
> 32013 NE Dial Road
> Camas, WA 98607
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
Yup, this is a bogus message and should be ignored. The Matronics
Spam filter appliance is down right now for repair and a few Spams
are hitting the List. I hope to have the Spam filter back up by
tonight. In the meantime, I have blocked this message from the list
with a filter.
Note that since enclosures are stripped prior to resend, there was no
danger of virus spreading.
Sorry for the scare!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin
At 02:23 AM 9/27/2005 Tuesday, you wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Paul, do you have to have the nose piece machined concave to use
>that HF pneumatic riveter?
>
>Ed Moody II
I am using the hollow-ground nose piece from the hand riveter I
bought from Zenith. It fits the Harbor Freight riveter just fine.
Paul
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| Subject: | High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Graham Kirby" <graham@601hd.com>
Ed,
If you have the hand riveter from Zenith with their preground heads, those
heads fit perfectly into the Harbor Freight tool.
Graham
601HD
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
dredmoody@cox.net
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
Paul, do you have to have the nose piece machined concave to use that HF
pneumatic riveter?
Ed Moody II
>
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| Subject: | High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
All this about the HF riveter has caused me to reflect...Some of the
stuff is definatly junk...their Sawzall for example.
But I have built an entire house with a $100 10" compund slide chop saw
and its still going strong!..They even have a 6# chop saw which when
used with aluminum oxide discs will chop aluminimum stock without
galling up the wheel.
Wonderful stuff.
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Mulwitz
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: High Praise for Harbor Freight Riveter.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
--> <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Paul, do you have to have the nose piece machined concave to use that
>HF pneumatic riveter?
>
>Ed Moody II
I am using the hollow-ground nose piece from the hand riveter I bought
from Zenith. It fits the Harbor Freight riveter just fine.
Paul
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| Subject: | Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" <Jim.Weston@delta.com>
Something doesn't fit. If this is the case, how is it that Aeronca's,
Ercoupe's, T-Crafts, etc. are listed as LSA eligible? They sure weren't
originally certified within the LSA definition.
This is a really confusing subject. Going to the FAA website sure
doesn't help. I've dug through the CFRs and used their search engine
with little found.
Here's a cut and paste directly from the EAA's LSA page:
(Here's the URL, http://www.sportpilot.org/lsa/likely_lsa.html)
..........................
Sport Pilot-Eligible Experimental Aircraft
Printer friendly PDF
Sport pilots may fly aircraft certificated in many of the experimental
aircraft categories, including experimental amateur-built, experimental
exhibition, and experimental light-sport aircraft.
Experimental amateur-built aircraft
Experimental amateur-built aircraft that meet the definition of an LSA
may be flown by sport pilots. The aircraft is certificated as an
experimental amateur-built aircraft and must be operated in accordance
with the operating limitations given to the aircraft at the time it
receives its airworthiness certification. It must be maintained and
inspected in accordance with the maintenance requirements for
amateur-built aircraft.
Experimental light-sport aircraft
Experimental light-sport aircraft (E-LSA) may also be flown by sport
pilots. Before any aircraft can be sold as an E-LSA kit, the
manufacturer must build one aircraft to completion in compliance with
the consensus standards developed by the ASTM industry group and
accepted by FAA. The aircraft must then be operated in accordance with
the operating limitations given the aircraft at the time it receives its
airworthiness certification. It must be maintained in accordance with
the consensus standards. Its annual inspection may be conducted by an
LSA repairman with an inspection rating, an LSA repairman with a
maintenance rating, an airframe and powerplant (A&P) mechanic, or other
FAA-rated mechanic.
Ultralights
This lists also includes all ultralights, including weight-shift
controlled aircraft (trikes) and powered parachutes, that are eligible
to transition to experimental light-sport aircraft status. That
transition must be completed no later than January 31, 2008.
.......................
Under 'Experimental amateur-built aircraft' it says "aircraft that meet
the definition of an LSA", not "that were originally certified and
continuously operated as".
Does anyone really know what the story is?
Jim Weston
CH601HDS
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William J.
Naumuk
Subject: Zenith-List: Cross SP Registration
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk"
--> <billn@velocity.net>
All-
Here it is, straight from the guys that wrote the book.
Bill
Hello William,
Your approach would not work because once the aircraft is operated in a
configuration that does not meet the definition of a light-sport
aircraft (LSA) it is forever ineligible for operation by sport pilots.
This being the case, any sort of dual certification would not be
beneficial. The aircraft must be originally certificated and
continuously operated within the LSA definition in order to be eligible
for operation by sport pilots.
Joe Norris
EAA Aviation Services
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| Subject: | Re: Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
On 9/27/05, Weston, Jim <Jim.Weston@delta.com> wrote:
> Something doesn't fit. If this is the case, how is it that Aeronca's,
> Ercoupe's, T-Crafts, etc. are listed as LSA eligible? They sure weren't
> originally certified within the LSA definition.
No, they weren't, you're right. But, goes the argument, they have --
and have had since their initial manufactured configuration --
*characteristics* (speeds, weights, ...) that are within the LSA
parameters.
> This is a really confusing subject.
I think you just made the Official International True Statement of the Day. :)
Peace,
Ihab
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Ihab A.B. Awad, Palo Alto, CA
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| Subject: | Re: Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Jim, you seem to know a lot more about this subject than these other fellows.
How about we elect you as the "official expert" and you tell us what all this
confusing stuff means. I agree with your point. Without such a provision no
plane could become a LSP flyer. And only if the LSP built the plane. And no
other previously certified plane, even if it meets all the status requirements
as
to speed, weight, etc. could become a LSP. Kind of mix of the chicken before
the egg dilemma mixed with Catch 22. You going to fly any this weekend? I hope
to get in a bunch of hours Sat & Sun if the weather will cooperate, Best to
you, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ihab Awad <ihab.awad@gmail.com>
On 9/27/05, Weston, Jim <Jim.Weston@delta.com> wrote:
> Under 'Experimental amateur-built aircraft' it says "aircraft that meet
> the definition of an LSA", not "that were originally certified and
> continuously operated as".
Sorry, I didn't see that part of your message. Please disregard my
previous reply. Peace, -- Ihab
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| Subject: | Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
From what I have read, this is really very simple...
The "always met" provision applies to certified aircraft, not Experimentals.
Very simply, it says that if the aircraft, as originally certified, met the
LSA requirements, and it has never been modified in such a way as to take it
out of compliance with the LSA requirements, can be flown by a Light Sport
Pilot.
Where this has most often come up is with the Ercoupe 415-C's, which met the
LSA requirements at the time of their original certification. Many of these
were modified to 415-D's (really more of a 415-C+), which do not meet the
LSA specs. The question was, if these modifications were removed, could the
airplane be flown by a Light Sport Pilot. The answer is no.
But, again based on what I have read, the situation with an Experimental is
quite different. If an Experimental does not meet the LSA requirements, you
could de-register it, at which time it would cease to be an airplane, but
would instead simply be a collection of airplane parts. You could then
modify it to meet the LSA specs, and re-register it as an eLSA.
Again, this is based on a lot of stuff that I have read, and while it does
seem to be correct, please feel free to take it with as many grains of salt
as you may wish...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Cross SP Registration
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Jim, you seem to know a lot more about this subject than these other
fellows.
How about we elect you as the "official expert" and you tell us what all
this
confusing stuff means. I agree with your point. Without such a provision no
plane could become a LSP flyer. And only if the LSP built the plane. And no
other previously certified plane, even if it meets all the status
requirements as
to speed, weight, etc. could become a LSP. Kind of mix of the chicken before
the egg dilemma mixed with Catch 22. You going to fly any this weekend? I
hope
to get in a bunch of hours Sat & Sun if the weather will cooperate, Best to
you, Bill
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| Subject: | Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "B Johnson" <bjohnson@satx.rr.com>
Well the original rule DOES have the "since it's original certification"
language in it. The FAA has re-designed it's web site to be "more consumer
friendly" which means it takes even longer to find stuff <grin>.
Also, don't get your "AA's" mixed up. Although the EAA knows a lot about
the sport pilot rule (and I believe wrote most of it), the FAA is the final
authority, so if you are going to split hairs, be sure to do it on FAA
language, not EAA language.
Go here:
http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/sport_pilot/
And/or here:
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/rec/light_sport/
For the faa stuff.
See page 2 of:
<http://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/airmen_certification/sport_pilot/m
edia/sp_certification_brochure.pdf>
for the item by item definition of an LSA.
An LSA is ANY aircraft that meets the defn.
Quote:
14 CFR PART 1.1
Light-sport aircraft means an aircraft, other than a helicopter or
powered-lift that, since its original certification, has continued to meet
the following:
(1) A maximum takeoff weight of not more than
(i) 660 pounds (300 kilograms) for lighter-than-air aircraft;
(ii) 1,320 pounds (600 kilograms) for aircraft not intended for operation on
water; or
(iii) 1,430 pounds (650 kilograms) for an aircraft intended for operation on
water.
(2) A maximum airspeed in level flight with maximum continuous power (VH) of
not more than 120 knots CAS under standard atmospheric conditions at sea
level.
(3) A maximum never-exceed speed (VNE) of not more than 120 knots CAS for a
glider.
(4) A maximum stalling speed or minimum steady flight speed without the use
of lift-enhancing devices (VS1) of not more than 45 knots CAS at the
aircrafts maximum certificated takeoff weight and most critical center of
gravity.
(5) A maximum seating capacity of no more than two persons, including the
pilot.
(6) A single, reciprocating engine, if powered.
(7) A fixed or ground-adjustable propeller if a powered aircraft other than
a powered glider.
(8) A fixed or autofeathering propeller system if a powered glider.
(9) A fixed-pitch, semi-rigid, teetering, two-blade rotor system, if a
gyroplane.
(10) A nonpressurized cabin, if equipped with a cabin.
(11) Fixed landing gear, except for an aircraft intended for operation on
water or a glider.
(12) Fixed or repositionable landing gear, or a hull, for an aircraft
intended for operation on water.
(13) Fixed or retractable landing gear for a glider.
End quote.
You see, this part makes no reference to whether it's experimental or sLSA
or eLSA or a traditional certified T-Craft C&C-D Ercoupe etc.
If it meets the applicable parts of 1-13 above, and is otherwise certified
to fly, it may be considered an LSA for the purposes of determining if a
person operating as a Sport Pilot may fly it.
-Bruce
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weston, Jim
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Cross SP Registration
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Weston, Jim" <Jim.Weston@delta.com>
Something doesn't fit. If this is the case, how is it that Aeronca's,
Ercoupe's, T-Crafts, etc. are listed as LSA eligible? They sure weren't
originally certified within the LSA definition.
This is a really confusing subject. Going to the FAA website sure
doesn't help. I've dug through the CFRs and used their search engine
with little found.
Here's a cut and paste directly from the EAA's LSA page:
(Here's the URL, http://www.sportpilot.org/lsa/likely_lsa.html)
..........................
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| Subject: | Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
I just can't resist getting into this little conversation.
I think there are so many different opportunities to get confused
over this new set of rules it is amazing anyone has it figured
out. After many months of study and thought, I have a few minor
points clear in my mind.
First, there are pilots and airplanes. Pilots can be Sport Pilots
with appropriate limitations in privileges or they can be Private or
Commercial pilots (add in all other pilot certificate types) and
limit their own operating privileges to gain the benefit of not
needing an FAA Medical Certificate to fly. In this case they do not
become Sport Pilots - they still have all the training and experience
they had before this momentous decision. They merely limit
themselves to the Sport Pilot limits in most cases. This includes
flight of Light Sport Aircraft or similar aircraft and VFR Day
limits. It does not include limits that require endorsements for
Sport Pilots that their real Airman Certificate already covers like
operation into high density airports and checkout requirements for
new model aircraft.
If you think that was complicated, wait until you start trying to
figure out the aircraft issues.
The new rule establishes several different new aircraft types. It
doesn't eliminate any of the old ones. The new Light Sport Aircraft
are defined (loosely) to be single engine, one or two seat, max gross
weight of 1320 pounds, fixed or ground adjustable prop, no turbines,
no pressurized cabins, and several vague and questionable performance
numbers. If you are a traditional manufacturer you can get new
models certified as S-LSA, one of the new airworthiness certificates,
and deliver factory complete planes to customers with this
certificate. S-LSA planes seem to be the only ones that can fly for
hire - an important issue when it comes to rentals and flight
instruction. Similarly you can sell E-LSA planes that are not
completely assembled when delivered to the customer but are identical
in all other respects to the S-LSA as approved. (Give me a little
slack here regarding differences between S-LSA and matching E-LSA
models. That is a whole different can of worms.) Either of these
types can be flown by Sport Pilots or higher rated pilots wishing to
restrict themselves to Sport Pilot limitations.
Today's major confusion seems to come from the additional freedom
both types of Sport Pilots have to fly planes that are not in fact
Light Sport Aircraft. These aircraft must meet the general
requirements to be Light Sport Aircraft but can have virtually any
other type of airworthiness certificate. The most interesting
example for members of this list is Experimental - Amateur
Built. That is indeed the only certificate we can get for our
kit-built and scratch-built aircraft. We cannot get any variation of
LSA certificate for these planes. However, if one of these planes
happens to meet the general requirements for being an LSA
(performance, weight, etc.) then either a Sport Pilot or other
certificated pilot can operate this plane with exactly the same
privileges and limits as if it were an LSA. There is no need, or
indeed any capability, to register this plane as an LSA -- Just
pretend it is one and go on from there.
If that is not simple enough to make sense, then please accept my
apologies. It is the best I could do.
Paul
XL wings
do not archive
At 11:39 AM 9/27/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
>
> From what I have read, this is really very simple...
>
>The "always met" provision applies to certified aircraft, not Experimentals.
>Very simply, it says that if the aircraft, as originally certified, met the
>LSA requirements, and it has never been modified in such a way as to take it
>out of compliance with the LSA requirements, can be flown by a Light Sport
>Pilot.
>
>Where this has most often come up is with the Ercoupe 415-C's, which met the
>LSA requirements at the time of their original certification. Many of these
>were modified to 415-D's (really more of a 415-C+), which do not meet the
>LSA specs. The question was, if these modifications were removed, could the
>airplane be flown by a Light Sport Pilot. The answer is no.
>
>But, again based on what I have read, the situation with an Experimental is
>quite different. If an Experimental does not meet the LSA requirements, you
>could de-register it, at which time it would cease to be an airplane, but
>would instead simply be a collection of airplane parts. You could then
>modify it to meet the LSA specs, and re-register it as an eLSA.
>
>Again, this is based on a lot of stuff that I have read, and while it does
>seem to be correct, please feel free to take it with as many grains of salt
>as you may wish...
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
>JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Cross SP Registration
>
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>Jim, you seem to know a lot more about this subject than these other
>fellows.
>How about we elect you as the "official expert" and you tell us what all
>this
>confusing stuff means. I agree with your point. Without such a provision no
>plane could become a LSP flyer. And only if the LSP built the plane. And no
>other previously certified plane, even if it meets all the status
>requirements as
>to speed, weight, etc. could become a LSP. Kind of mix of the chicken before
>the egg dilemma mixed with Catch 22. You going to fly any this weekend? I
>hope
>to get in a bunch of hours Sat & Sun if the weather will cooperate, Best to
>you, Bill
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Cross SP Registration |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Hi Paul,
There was only one mistake with your post, and that was the do not archive
at the bottom :-) I thought it was about the best description I've seen
yet!
Thanks,
Rusty (Still trying to find an XL project or flying plane near Pensacola FL)
------------------------------------
If that is not simple enough to make sense, then please accept my
apologies. It is the best I could do.
Paul
XL wings
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| Subject: | Brake fluid recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
Hello fellow builders: I am getting ready to install brake fluid for the
first time and I am using Matco brake cylinders. I am seeking recommendations
on what type of fluid I should use. I think I remember Dextron 3 automatic
transmission fluid being discussed before but I wanted to know if that is the
best fluid to use.
Any other helpful comments on the brake system would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Mike Elrod 701 90% complete
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
Go to your FBO and get aircraft brake fluid, it is nasty but won't damage
the seals.
Chuck D.
----- Original Message -----
From: <MElrod3732@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Brake fluid recommendations
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
> Hello fellow builders: I am getting ready to install brake fluid for the
> first time and I am using Matco brake cylinders. I am seeking
recommendations
> on what type of fluid I should use. I think I remember Dextron 3
automatic
> transmission fluid being discussed before but I wanted to know if that is
the
> best fluid to use.
> Any other helpful comments on the brake system would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Mike Elrod 701 90% complete
>
>
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| Subject: | 912 Cabin Heater |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
List--
Would like to hear from those folks that a using the 912S and utilizing a
water based heater for cabin heat. Is there enough heat generated from
the cylinder head cooling for cabin heat use in the Northeast US? Is it
best
to use a valve for the on/off heat along with a fan, or is just a fan
necessary.
I see that the firewall forward is supplied with the usual muffler supplied
heat, however, if possible I'd like to use water
Thanks
George May
601XL 912S
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Mike,
Matco recommends you use DOT 5 brake fluid in the brake cylinders.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
MElrod3732@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
>Hello fellow builders: I am getting ready to install brake fluid for the
>first time and I am using Matco brake cylinders. I am seeking recommendations
>on what type of fluid I should use. I think I remember Dextron 3 automatic
>transmission fluid being discussed before but I wanted to know if that is the
>best fluid to use.
>Any other helpful comments on the brake system would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Mike Elrod 701 90% complete
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Brake fluid recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
From: http://www.carttonic.com/files/file_download.php?fi_id=17859
All o-rings in the brake and master cylinder assembly are buna nitrile and
are not compatible with automotive glycol based brake fluid. ONLY red
aircraft fluid (Mil-H-5606) or other suitable petroleum-based or
silicon-based fluid should be used.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Brake fluid recommendations
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Mike,
Matco recommends you use DOT 5 brake fluid in the brake cylinders.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
MElrod3732@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
>
>Hello fellow builders: I am getting ready to install brake fluid for the
>first time and I am using Matco brake cylinders. I am seeking
recommendations
>on what type of fluid I should use. I think I remember Dextron 3
automatic
>transmission fluid being discussed before but I wanted to know if that is
the
>best fluid to use.
>Any other helpful comments on the brake system would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Mike Elrod 701 90% complete
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Brake fluid recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
For clarity,
DOT 5 is a red silicon-based fluid that complies with Mil H 5606 and can
be recommended for Matco brakes,
DOT 5.1 is a ether glycol based non-synthetic fluid that absorbs water
and is not recommended on buna or nitrile seals or Matco brakes.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
do not archive
Bill Denton wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
>
>From: http://www.carttonic.com/files/file_download.php?fi_id=17859
>
>All o-rings in the brake and master cylinder assembly are buna nitrile and
>are not compatible with automotive glycol based brake fluid. ONLY red
>aircraft fluid (Mil-H-5606) or other suitable petroleum-based or
>silicon-based fluid should be used.
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Larry
>McFarland
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Brake fluid recommendations
>
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
>Mike,
>Matco recommends you use DOT 5 brake fluid in the brake cylinders.
>
>Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>do not archive
>
>MElrod3732@aol.com wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
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>>Hello fellow builders: I am getting ready to install brake fluid for the
>>first time and I am using Matco brake cylinders. I am seeking
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>recommendations
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>>on what type of fluid I should use. I think I remember Dextron 3
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>automatic
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>>transmission fluid being discussed before but I wanted to know if that is
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>the
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>>best fluid to use.
>>Any other helpful comments on the brake system would be appreciated.
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>>Thanks in advance,
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>>Mike Elrod 701 90% complete
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Kelly Meiste" <kellymeiste@jcwifi.com>
Larry,
If I recall from my hot rod days, the DOT 5 silicon fluid isn't recommended
for higher altitudes.
Have you ever heard that, or am I all wet?
Kelly
----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Brake fluid recommendations
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
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> For clarity,
>
> DOT 5 is a red silicon-based fluid that complies with Mil H 5606 and can
> be recommended for Matco brakes,
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> DOT 5.1 is a ether glycol based non-synthetic fluid that absorbs water
> and is not recommended on buna or nitrile seals or Matco brakes.
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS
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