Today's Message Index:
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1. 02:31 AM - Re: Wheels and tires. (Bryan Martin)
2. 04:39 AM - Re: Best Shears (Richard, Leonel (TED/FDE))
3. 06:24 AM - Re: Wheels and tires. (Larry)
4. 06:58 AM - Re: Wheels and tires. (Larry McFarland)
5. 08:16 AM - Project pictures (Rick)
6. 08:21 AM - Re: Copper State (Hal Rozema)
7. 09:13 AM - Re: Wheels and tires. (Paul Tipton)
8. 09:20 AM - Re: Best Shears (Richard, Leonel (TED/FDE))
9. 11:30 AM - Re: Wheels and Tires (Dan & Paula Yeast)
10. 12:28 PM - 601XL wing spar scratch build (Dave Gardea)
11. 12:55 PM - Re: 601XL wing spar scratch build (Zodie Rocket)
12. 01:11 PM - Re: Wheels and Tires (doug kandle)
13. 01:24 PM - Re: 601XL wing spar scratch build (N5SL)
14. 01:30 PM - Re: Re: Wheels and Tires (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
15. 02:22 PM - Re: Re: Re: Wheels and Tires ()
16. 02:31 PM - Re: 601XL wing spar scratch build (Danny)
17. 02:37 PM - Re: Wheels and tires.. (Gary Gower)
18. 02:37 PM - Re: Wheels and tires.. (Gary Gower)
19. 04:27 PM - Re: Handheld radio for sale (Trevor Page)
20. 04:36 PM - 701 Fuel capacity (Mike Hoffman)
21. 05:37 PM - Carrying folding bikes in a Zodiac? (Kevin Thorp)
22. 05:48 PM - Re: Re: Wheels and Tires (Gary Gower)
23. 05:58 PM - Re: 701 Fuel capacity (Gary Gower)
24. 06:06 PM - Re: 701 Fuel capacity (Chuck Deiterich)
25. 06:24 PM - Re: Re: Wheels and Tires (doug kandle)
26. 06:25 PM - Steam gauges: serious overkill! (Carlos Sa)
27. 06:58 PM - Re: Re: Wheels and Tires (David Alberti)
28. 07:14 PM - Re: Steam gauges: serious overkill! (Gary A. Boothe)
29. 07:15 PM - Re: Steam gauges: serious overkill! (Trevor Page)
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels and tires. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
I had slow leaks in two of the tube type tires on my 601. I ended up
removing the shraeder valves, applying some silicone grease to them and
reinstalling them. No more leaks.
on 10/2/05 10:47 PM, Tebenkof@aol.com at Tebenkof@aol.com wrote:
> The ZAC supplied wheels (Matco) and tires have been on my 701 now for a
> year. Just sitting in the garage it has been necessary to add air several
> times.
> Has anyone managed to have the "tubeless tires" supplied with the 701
> actually hold air without an inner tube? And if you do go with a tube, is
> there a
> trick to getting one to fit the Matco wheel?
>
> Thanks yet again, list.
>
> Jim Greenough
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard, Leonel (TED/FDE)" <Leonel.Richard@gnb.ca>
When I started my project I had a 4 or 5 pairs of snips from various
makers but scratch building with them would not have been possible if
cutting by hand. I bought a pair of Irwin offsets for right hand (since
I'm righthanded) and I've gone through 20 sheets 4X12 so far and they
work perfectly.
Leonel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
Subject: Zenith-List: Best Shears
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
My 13" duck bill pattern snips(WISS) have been sharpened so many times,
that they do not close all the way anymore. Before I order a replacement
set, I thought I would inquire of the list as to the best shears for
long straight cuts in full sheets. Aaron do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels and tires. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
I have one that appears to be losing air. I have three tubes, just haven't
put them it yet. I will install them before I start flying. Most tire
dealers can order the tubes for you, mine were $18 each, Aircraft Spruce
also has them for $19.
The only downsides to putting tubes in is weight, and cost. The tire
manufacturer doesn't write "tube type" on the tires because they intend you
to run them tubeless. If you have a problem with a tire while running a
clearly marked "tube type" tire "tubeless" then the tire manufacturer is
also clearly not responsible for the tire or any resulting consequences.
Just the facts, guys. Larry N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Tebenkof@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels and tires.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
>
> I know this has been discussed, but I don't recall a final outcome. Maybe
> that is because this list so seldom limits itself to one final opinion on
> anything.
>
> The ZAC supplied wheels (Matco) and tires have been on my 701 now for a
> year. Just sitting in the garage it has been necessary to add air
> several times.
> Has anyone managed to have the "tubeless tires" supplied with the 701
> actually hold air without an inner tube? And if you do go with a tube,
> is there a
> trick to getting one to fit the Matco wheel?
>
> Thanks yet again, list.
>
> Jim Greenough
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels and tires. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Jim,
I don't think you should try to go without tubes. I used 3.50-8:00 S83
tires and tubes
from motorscooter wheels. They fit the ZAC Matco wheels well. The Tubes
would
probably fit the ZAC tires, but be sure you get a 90-degree bent valve
stem for ease of
access to refill.
Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
Tebenkof@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
>
>I know this has been discussed, but I don't recall a final outcome. Maybe
>that is because this list so seldom limits itself to one final opinion on
>anything.
>
>The ZAC supplied wheels (Matco) and tires have been on my 701 now for a
>year. Just sitting in the garage it has been necessary to add air several times.
> Has anyone managed to have the "tubeless tires" supplied with the 701
>actually hold air without an inner tube? And if you do go with a tube, is there
a
>trick to getting one to fit the Matco wheel?
>
>Thanks yet again, list.
>
>Jim Greenough
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Project pictures |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick" <zodie@adelphia.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Richard, Leonel (TED/FDE)"
> When I started my project I had a 4 or 5 pairs of snips from various
> makers but scratch building with them would not have been possible if
> cutting by hand. I bought a pair of Irwin offsets for right hand (since
> I'm righthanded) and I've gone through 20 sheets 4X12 so far and they
> work perfectly.
> Leonel
>
20 sheets of aluminum already turned into airplane parts... you got
pictures??!!
I love to see pics of all these Zenith's being born. I miss the construction
phase, maybe I need to build something again. A set of HDS outer wing panels
might be enough to satisfy the urge for a while...
Here's a couple of pics taken from my 601HD last week:
http://www.lightflyers.com/wjfszp/
And the pics from the build: http://www.lightflyers.com
Rick Pitcher
N601ZR
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| Subject: | Re: Copper State |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
Zenith Listers
I just received this
Hal,
Yes the guys will be flying out to Copperstate and will be leaving
tomorrow morning. Roger is flying the 701 and Nick is flying the XL.
If you are attending the airshow, stop by the booth and say hi.
Shirley
Zenith Aircraft Company
info@zenithair.com
http://www.zenithair.com
(573) 581-9000 (Mon-Fri, 8-5 Central)
(573) 581-0011 Fax
Write us at:
Zenith Aircraft Company
Mexico Memorial Airport, PO Box 650
Mexico, Missouri 65265-0650 USA
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels and tires. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Tipton" <PTIPTON@swmail.sw.org>
I have tube-type supplied tires that I use tube-less. Same ones
supplied by Zenith. They are a golf cart tire by Carlisle (Turf Glide).
The air probably leaks from the o-ring in the split rim. One tire
leaks slightly, and two do not. I just add a couple of pounds of air
every couple of weeks. Just not a big problem for me. Tubes just add
unnecessary weight and you might not be any better off.
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard, Leonel (TED/FDE)" <Leonel.Richard@gnb.ca>
I should not have said for right hand since right or left hand has
nothing to do with it. The one I use is the red one which cuts straight
and left. The bottom blade follows the cut edge on the right side and
guides the snips in a straight line. Your hand is above the material
and therefore doesn't get scratched by the edges.
Leonel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard,
Leonel (TED/FDE)
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Best Shears
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard, Leonel (TED/FDE)"
--> <Leonel.Richard@gnb.ca>
When I started my project I had a 4 or 5 pairs of snips from various
makers but scratch building with them would not have been possible if
cutting by hand. I bought a pair of Irwin offsets for right hand (since
I'm righthanded) and I've gone through 20 sheets 4X12 so far and they
work perfectly.
Leonel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Aaron
Subject: Zenith-List: Best Shears
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
My 13" duck bill pattern snips(WISS) have been sharpened so many times,
that they do not close all the way anymore. Before I order a replacement
set, I thought I would inquire of the list as to the best shears for
long straight cuts in full sheets. Aaron do not archive
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| Subject: | RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan & Paula Yeast" <DandP@qx.net>
I solved the problem of tires bleeding off air pressure with a small amount of
low pressure tubeless ATV Slime. It works well for me. I keep 12 lbs. of air
pressure in my 701 tires and I will lose a pound or two every thirty days or
so.
Dan Yeast
N987PD
188 hours total time in the 701
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| Subject: | 601XL wing spar scratch build |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dave Gardea <dgardea@gmail.com>
I think I'm making good progress on forming my wing ribs for my 601XL
project, but the next step that is fairly daunting to me, at least from a
scratch builders' point of view, is the construction of the wing spars and
aft wing channels. The top and bottom spar caps are over 9 foot long and the
aft wing channels (6W7-1) are 12 foot long. Even if I do locate an 8 foot
brake, I'm out of luck fabricating these myself.
After searching the list archive I see some folks have used two pieces for
the caps but it's unclear where the butt joint should be located and will
this approach pass muster with the DAR exam? Can L-angle be used for the top
spar cap on the 601XL or is the added weight a problem. I have also seen a
posting (http://ch601.org/resources/rear%20spar/601xl_rear_spar_splice.htm)
on the ch601.org <http://ch601.org> site about splicing the rear spar
channel. Has anyone succefully used this approach? Or .. should I just buy
these parts from ZAC? Sorry if I am revisiting old topics of discussion but
most of what I found in the archives related to HD or HDS wings.
Looking for any wisdom and guidance on these topics. Thanks in advance for
help!
Best regards,
Dave Gardea
http://dgardea.mybesthost.com
601XL & Corvair / tail completed / working on rear ribs
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| Subject: | 601XL wing spar scratch build |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Hi Dave , this change was approved and signed off by Chris Heintz
himself. We made a smaller piece of channel to fit into the rear channel
acting as a splice.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Gardea
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL wing spar scratch build
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dave Gardea <dgardea@gmail.com>
I think I'm making good progress on forming my wing ribs for my 601XL
project, but the next step that is fairly daunting to me, at least from
a
scratch builders' point of view, is the construction of the wing spars
and
aft wing channels. The top and bottom spar caps are over 9 foot long and
the
aft wing channels (6W7-1) are 12 foot long. Even if I do locate an 8
foot
brake, I'm out of luck fabricating these myself.
After searching the list archive I see some folks have used two pieces
for
the caps but it's unclear where the butt joint should be located and
will
this approach pass muster with the DAR exam? Can L-angle be used for the
top
spar cap on the 601XL or is the added weight a problem. I have also seen
a
posting
(http://ch601.org/resources/rear%20spar/601xl_rear_spar_splice.htm)
on the ch601.org <http://ch601.org> site about splicing the rear spar
channel. Has anyone succefully used this approach? Or .. should I just
buy
these parts from ZAC? Sorry if I am revisiting old topics of discussion
but
most of what I found in the archives related to HD or HDS wings.
Looking for any wisdom and guidance on these topics. Thanks in advance
for
help!
Best regards,
Dave Gardea
http://dgardea.mybesthost.com
601XL & Corvair / tail completed / working on rear ribs
--
9/29/2005
--
9/29/2005
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| Subject: | RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I see from this thread that a number of people are running without
inner tubes in their tires. I always thought this was unsafe because
of the possibility of breaking the bead, and instantly loosing all of
your air, during a (less than perfect) landing with a significant
side load on the wheels. Should this be a concern?
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL wing spar scratch build |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Dave:
I built both of my wings using the rear channel splice method. I think it is stronger
because you have extra thickness where the hole is drilled for the aileron
control rod. I used my Larry McFarland Design, 8' brake for the rear channel
parts. For the spars you need to find a long brake. Check your local fab
shops and you may find someone willing to help you out. Here's a photo taken
back in November of '03.
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_11_03_RearChannelSplice.JPG
I hope this helps,
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
601XL / Corvair
Wiring and Stuff
Dave Gardea <dgardea@gmail.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Dave Gardea
Has anyone succefully used this approach? Best regards,
Dave Gardea
http://dgardea.mybesthost.com
601XL & Corvair / tail completed / working on rear ribs
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| Subject: | RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I wouldn't remove my tubes for this very reason...Might be low risk but
why do it?
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug kandle
Subject: Zenith-List: RE: Wheels and Tires
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I see from this thread that a number of people are running without inner
tubes in their tires. I always thought this was unsafe because of the
possibility of breaking the bead, and instantly loosing all of your air,
during a (less than perfect) landing with a significant side load on the
wheels. Should this be a concern?
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
I think the arguement against bothering with tubes has been centered on too much
bother and too much weight. I have tubes in all three tires on my dinky little
UL so if it isn't too much bother and weight there...... why not on a 601 or
701?
Ed Moody II
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| Subject: | 601XL wing spar scratch build |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Danny" <danny.dubois@sympatico.ca>
HI Dave
I'm building my spar in the moment getting everything with solid rivet,
For the spar cap doubler I did cut it in 2 and add a doubler of .040" of a
length enough to catch 6 rivets on the spar and 6 rivets at the skin I did
this as per ac43.13b.
I did try making a one piece cap by bending it with a hammer over my table
but with no success part had a curve in it.
If you're interested I could send you the dimension later
Or you could contact me off list
Good luck with your choices.
Danny Dubois
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels and tires.. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
When we assembled our tires, we put some black rubber tire in the "O" ring of
the rim, just in case it could loose air. They dont loose any air in almost
a year,
You can add the rubber easy, just lift one wheel at a time and deflate it, move
it to the center and paint the O ring area with black tire rubber, then inflate
the tire as normal when installing it.
Hope this helps.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Larry <lrm01@centurytel.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry"
I have one that appears to be losing air. I have three tubes, just haven't
put them it yet. I will install them before I start flying. Most tire
dealers can order the tubes for you, mine were $18 each, Aircraft Spruce
also has them for $19.
The only downsides to putting tubes in is weight, and cost. The tire
manufacturer doesn't write "tube type" on the tires because they intend you
to run them tubeless. If you have a problem with a tire while running a
clearly marked "tube type" tire "tubeless" then the tire manufacturer is
also clearly not responsible for the tire or any resulting consequences.
Just the facts, guys. Larry N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels and tires.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
>
> I know this has been discussed, but I don't recall a final outcome. Maybe
> that is because this list so seldom limits itself to one final opinion on
> anything.
>
> The ZAC supplied wheels (Matco) and tires have been on my 701 now for a
> year. Just sitting in the garage it has been necessary to add air
> several times.
> Has anyone managed to have the "tubeless tires" supplied with the 701
> actually hold air without an inner tube? And if you do go with a tube,
> is there a
> trick to getting one to fit the Matco wheel?
>
> Thanks yet again, list.
>
> Jim Greenough
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wheels and tires.. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
When we assembled our tires, we put some black rubber tire in the "O" ring of
the rim, just in case it could loose air. They dont loose any air in almost
a year,
You can add the rubber easy, just lift one wheel at a time and deflate it, move
it to the center and paint the O ring area with black tire rubber, then inflate
the tire as normal when installing it.
Hope this helps.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Larry <lrm01@centurytel.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry"
I have one that appears to be losing air. I have three tubes, just haven't
put them it yet. I will install them before I start flying. Most tire
dealers can order the tubes for you, mine were $18 each, Aircraft Spruce
also has them for $19.
The only downsides to putting tubes in is weight, and cost. The tire
manufacturer doesn't write "tube type" on the tires because they intend you
to run them tubeless. If you have a problem with a tire while running a
clearly marked "tube type" tire "tubeless" then the tire manufacturer is
also clearly not responsible for the tire or any resulting consequences.
Just the facts, guys. Larry N1345L www.angelfire.com/un/ch701.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: Zenith-List: Wheels and tires.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
>
> I know this has been discussed, but I don't recall a final outcome. Maybe
> that is because this list so seldom limits itself to one final opinion on
> anything.
>
> The ZAC supplied wheels (Matco) and tires have been on my 701 now for a
> year. Just sitting in the garage it has been necessary to add air
> several times.
> Has anyone managed to have the "tubeless tires" supplied with the 701
> actually hold air without an inner tube? And if you do go with a tube,
> is there a
> trick to getting one to fit the Matco wheel?
>
> Thanks yet again, list.
>
> Jim Greenough
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Handheld radio for sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Well I guess the price was right, I sold it this morning.
Thanks all
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD R912
do not archive
> Listers, I have decided to upgrade to a panel COM radio so I'm
> putting up my handheld radio up for sale.
>
> It's a Vertex Spirit VXA-700. Has aviation NAV-COM, amateur radio
> band, FM band and WX. Really small!!
>
> You can get more details from their website here:
>
> http://www.vertexstandard.com/indexVS.cfm?
> cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=204&ProdID=18&DivisionID=2
>
> I bought the radio late last year but I lost the whip antenna and the
> charger died on me (I have a RAMI external antenna on my 601 and I
> power it from the plane, so I don't miss those items) Otherwise it
> works great. You can buy the missing items pretty cheap from any
> Vertex/Yeasu dealer.
> These sell for $400US on the street, first $230 takes it...
>
> Contact me off-list @ tbpage at rogers dot com for more info. Thanks
>
> Trev Page
> C-IDUS 601HD R912
>
> do not archive
>
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| Subject: | 701 Fuel capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman" <mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com>
Hi, to the point of installing fuel tanks that came with my kit (10 gal per
wing). Seems like 20 gallons is not capacity and if I am going to change
them, now would be the time. Can anyone that is currently flying with 20
gallons of fuel give me their opinion.
Thanks Mike H,
701 tail done working on wings.
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| Subject: | Carrying folding bikes in a Zodiac? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Kevin Thorp <kevin@medamation.com>
I think I know the answer to this, but is it possible to get a couple
folding bikes into a CH-601? The folded dimensions are 11" x 22" x 33"
and they weigh 23 lbs each.
Kevin Thorp
Charleston, SC
(Zodiac info pack & DVD on order)
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
I think that "Blowing" an inner tube in a landing is more dangerous that having
a "flat" in a tubeless... (remember old tires in the road).
Never had either in my airplanes, The few flats were there always when I got to
the hangar to fly in the morning :-(
In a hard landing, the tuble can blow, same final result...
Saludos
Gary Gower.
doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle
I see from this thread that a number of people are running without
inner tubes in their tires. I always thought this was unsafe because
of the possibility of breaking the bead, and instantly loosing all of
your air, during a (less than perfect) landing with a significant
side load on the wheels. Should this be a concern?
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Fuel capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Perfect here, is more range that "MY" tank :-) About 4 hrs at 5,000 rpm (Rotax
912S)
Until today, never needed to fly more than 3 hrs without landing, even in long
XCountry flights to FlyInns....
Saludos
Gary Gower
Mike Hoffman <mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman"
Hi, to the point of installing fuel tanks that came with my kit (10 gal per
wing). Seems like 20 gallons is not capacity and if I am going to change
them, now would be the time. Can anyone that is currently flying with 20
gallons of fuel give me their opinion.
Thanks Mike H,
701 tail done working on wings.
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Fuel capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Chuck Deiterich" <cfd@thegateway.net>
My ZAC supplied 10 gallon tanks are really about 10.3 gallons. 20 gallons
is more than enough for me. Right now I am flying with the left tank empty
while getting ready to pull and paint the wings. I burn less than 4 gal per
hour and never land on a tank with less than 3 gallons.
Chuck D.
N701TX
Jab 2200
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Hoffman" <mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Fuel capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman"
<mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> Hi, to the point of installing fuel tanks that came with my kit (10 gal
per
> wing). Seems like 20 gallons is not capacity and if I am going to change
> them, now would be the time. Can anyone that is currently flying with 20
> gallons of fuel give me their opinion.
>
> Thanks Mike H,
> 701 tail done working on wings.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I don't think that the issue is blowing the tire due to a hard
landing. It is breaking the bead due to a side load caused by not
tracking straight at touchdown. (cross wind with not the proper
forward slip at touchdown). With a tubeless tire the tire can be
pushed sideways enough to cause to bead of the tire to separate from
the wheel. These tires are only inflated to 10 lbs, so I don't think
it would take too much side force to push the tire off of the bead.
Do Not Archive
At 06:48 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
>
>I think that "Blowing" an inner tube in a landing is more dangerous
>that having a "flat" in a tubeless... (remember old tires in the road).
>
>Never had either in my airplanes, The few flats were there always
>when I got to the hangar to fly in the morning :-(
>
>In a hard landing, the tuble can blow, same final result...
>
>Saludos
>Gary Gower.
>
>doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net> wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle
>
>I see from this thread that a number of people are running without
>inner tubes in their tires. I always thought this was unsafe because
>of the possibility of breaking the bead, and instantly loosing all of
>your air, during a (less than perfect) landing with a significant
>side load on the wheels. Should this be a concern?
>
>
>---------------------------------
> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.
>
>
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| Subject: | Steam gauges: serious overkill! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
I was looking for some plain fuel gages on the net, and found this:
http://hp.autometer.com/products/nexus/index.html
Enjoy!
Carlos
Do not archive. I guess.
Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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| Subject: | RE: Wheels and Tires |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
Rims that are made for tubeless tires have a safety bead, a small ridge
located close to the outside edge of the rim. Matco may have changed their
rims since mine were made, but I have no such bead on mine. Without the
bead a fully inflated tire can pop off the rim if side loaded. When it does
all the air is gone in an instant. I run the tubes.
Dave
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I see from this thread that a number of people are running without
inner tubes in their tires. I always thought this was unsafe because
of the possibility of breaking the bead, and instantly loosing all of
your air, during a (less than perfect) landing with a significant
side load on the wheels. Should this be a concern?
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| Subject: | Re: Steam gauges: serious overkill! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
Very cool! Just what I need, Carlos, another remote!
Gary Boothe, Cool, Ca
<gboothe@calply.com>
601HDSTD, WW Corvair Conv. - complete
Tail Group - complete. Working on Wings...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Steam gauges: serious overkill!
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> I was looking for some plain fuel gages on the net, and found this:
>
> http://hp.autometer.com/products/nexus/index.html
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> Carlos
> Do not archive. I guess.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Steam gauges: serious overkill! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
Those are cool! Sometimes we do benefit from the after-market rice-
burners... ;)
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD R912
do not archive
On Oct 3, 2005, at 9:25 PM, Carlos Sa wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> I was looking for some plain fuel gages on the net, and found this:
>
> http://hp.autometer.com/products/nexus/index.html
>
> Enjoy!
>
>
> Carlos
> Do not archive. I guess.
>
>
> Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
>
>
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