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1. 05:45 AM - Re: First Flight of VH-JNL (John Livsey)
2. 06:03 AM - Re: First flight !!! (Fred or Sandy Hulen)
3. 06:19 AM - Re: No legal night/IFR with Rotax or Jabiru... (Pete Krotje)
4. 06:45 AM - Re: Fuel system parts / questions (Ken Lilja)
5. 06:47 AM - T-Tape ... (Bima, Martin)
6. 06:55 AM - Re: Range of Bungee replacement questions (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 07:00 AM - Re: Fuel system parts / questions (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
8. 07:06 AM - Re: First Flight of VH-JNL (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
9. 07:23 AM - Re: Range of Bungee replacement questions (Don Walker)
10. 07:23 AM - N414PZ Landing incident (Grant Corriveau)
11. 07:28 AM - Re: T-Tape ... (Larry)
12. 08:54 AM - Re: Fuel system parts / questions (doug kandle)
13. 08:58 AM - Re: 701 aileron trim (doug kandle)
14. 09:23 AM - Re: T-Tape ... (JOHN STARN)
15. 12:40 PM - ZAC lead times. (Paul Mulwitz)
16. 12:45 PM - Re: 701 aileron trim (Tom and Joyce Schulke)
17. 12:51 PM - ELTs (Beckman, Rick)
18. 02:55 PM - Re: ELTs (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
19. 03:59 PM - Re: Lets (Bryan Martin)
20. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: 701 aileron trim (Larry McFarland)
21. 05:52 PM - Bungee Deterioration: was Range of Bungee replacement questions (Dr. Perry Morrison)
22. 06:40 PM - Re: N414PZ Landing incident (Gbrac80@aol.com)
23. 06:40 PM - Teflon Tape Final Word (William J. Naumuk)
24. 06:50 PM - Re: ELTs (Craig Payne)
25. 07:02 PM - 601 XL Parts for Sale (Josh)
26. 07:06 PM - Re: Bungee Deterioration: was Range of Bungee replacement questions (Paul Moore)
27. 07:35 PM - Re: MA-3 SPA (Fred Kirkland)
28. 07:41 PM - Re: Teflon Tape Final Word (JOHN STARN)
29. 08:15 PM - Re: Teflon Tape Final Word (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
30. 08:54 PM - XL Project for sale (Rob Norris)
31. 09:43 PM - (kevinbonds)
32. 09:57 PM - Re: (Eddie Seve)
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| Subject: | Re: First Flight of VH-JNL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: John Livsey <jlivsey@bigpond.com>
All,
Thanks for all the kind words about the first flight of my A/C.
I have had some questions about the "Windscreen Wiper Switches" in one
of the pictures. Here is my answer.
About the switches, I didn't think many people would recognise them as
windscreen washer switches, I was wrong.
If your look at this circuit
http://www.users.bigpond.com/jlivsey/wiring/fuel1a4.pdf you will see the
switches on the right hand side of the circuit. The switch action is
centre normally off, up it switches on (auto) and down is a momentary
action, (you have to hold it in), for manual. (Just like in a car). In
the auto position it pumps from the wing tank/s automatically to fill
the main tank, the pumps start at about 30 litres and stop at when it
reaches 36 litres in the main tank. If the auto circuit fails for any
reason or you just want to transfer some fuel you just hold the switches
down.
Also I fitted a separate float switch in the main tank so if everything
fails, fuel gauge etc then the light comes on at around 18 litres, about
45 minutes.
Regards John.
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| Subject: | Re: First flight !!! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred or Sandy Hulen" <hulens61@comcast.net>
Great to hear of your first flight John, Congratulations!!!
I enjoyed seeing your pictures as well. I too am curious, what are the two
switches for that are labeled left and right and have windshield wiper icons
on them? Also would like to know what you used for the nice looking labels
on clear material?
Smoooooth landing.........
Fred
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| Subject: | No legal night/IFR with Rotax or Jabiru... |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Pete Krotje" <pkrotje@athenet.net>
This email below is factually incorrect regarding flying Jabiru engines at
night. The only application of JAR22H engine certification in the USA is
for Primary Category Aircraft under 750 kg. Primary category aircraft under
750 kg can use a JAR22H engine if limited to day VFR.
JAR22H does not come into play in the LSA area. Engines are compliant to
ASTM F2339.
Jabiru engines used in experimental amateur built aircraft can be flown in
any condition that the aircraft operating limitations allow, night usually
being one of them. Under a LSA certificate there is no prohibition on the
part of Jabiru against night operation. There is no specific prohibition in
the FAR's prohibiting night flight in S-LSA aircraft. The implied
restriction is in the certificate in that it is based on ASTM F2245-04. It
is stated in the scope of that standard that it applies to LSA aircraft
operated day VFR.
To be clear - it is not the Jabiru engine that limits an aircraft to day
VFR.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Allen Ricks
Subject: Zenith-List: No legal night/IFR with Rotax or Jabiru...
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Allen Ricks"
--> <allenricks@verizon.net>
Saw this article in the EAA hotline today.
Interesting that IFR and night VFR is NOT legal in an aircraft equiped with
any Jabiru engine, or any non-certified Rotax engine.
10/13/05 - SPECIAL LSA AND NIGHT/IFR FLYING
Some confusion exists in the aviation marketplace regarding the use of
special light-sport aircraft (S-LSA) for flying at night and/or under
instrument flight rules (IFR). The ASTM consensus standards that govern the
manufacture and production of S-LSA specifically address day/visual flight
rules (VFR) operations only.
First, sport pilots, or those exercising sport pilot privileges, are
restricted from flying at night or in IFR conditions, so they may not
operate an S-LSA, or any aircraft, at those times.
Other properly rated pilots may fly an S-LSA in those conditions if allowed
per the aircraft's operating limitations and if it is equipped per FAR
91.205. Additionally, FAR 91.327(d) requires all S-LSA to be operated in
accordance with the aircraft's operating instructions. An aircraft's
operating instructions are different from operating limitations; operating
instructions are issued by manufacturers-engine, airframe, and
accessory-while operating limitations are issued by the FAA.
Many S-LSA are equipped with Rotax engines. Rotax's operating instructions
prohibit the use of a Rotax engine at night or in IFR conditions unless it
is the FAA type-certificated engine; that is, certificated to FAR Part 33.
Rotax's non-certificated engines are indicated by the letters "UL" after the
engine series number; for example, 912UL, 912ULS, and 914UL.
Additionally, S-LSA airframe and engine manufacturers may place restrictions
against the use of their aircraft and/or engines for night/IFR operations.
For example, other S-LSA are powered by Jabiru engines; these engines are
certificated to JAR-22H and are limited to day/VFR operation.
Bottom line: some S-LSA can be equipped for night and IFR operation; be sure
to tell the manufacturer/dealer if your intent is to operate the aircraft
under those conditions...and make sure you have the proper ratings.
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel system parts / questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Lilja <planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net>
Hi all,
This is my first post to the list. I pick up my XL kit Thursday.
Pipe threads are supposed to fit tight. The weld flange needs to opened
up with a pipe tap. you need 4+ thread engagement. Not cracking the
flange is base on proper installation. I have seen many cracks caused
by over-tightened pipe thread fittings
Ken Lilja
A&P Instructor, Aviation Institute of Maintenance.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
I use Teflon tape all of the time. On cars, boats, air, water, fuel,
drains, etc. Millions of people use t-tape in hundreds of applications.
So why isn't it OK for a homebuilt airplane?
Because when Jim-Bob's truck breaks down on farm road A12, it doesn't
make the front page of the local paper. And Jim-Bob gets Phil to come
out and help him tow the truck back to the garage where they spend the
next day trouble shooting the fuel system.
However, if Jim-Bob forced-landed his 601 on farm A12, you can bet that
CNN will be the first ones out there begging for a post crash fire
(preferably in the early morning to get that "magic-hour" lighting).
There have been several incidents of loss of power due to crap in the
fuel lines - and some of that crap has been Teflon shreddings.
To prove it to yourself, loosen any t-tape connection and watch the
shards. Loosening dope connections will reveal a compressed, but intact
dope seal.
Pipe dope does not shred, and will keep you off the evening news.
BUILD SAFE - FLY SAFE
Martin
701
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| Subject: | Range of Bungee replacement questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Mine "seem" just fine after nearly 400 hours and 6 years. Don't seem to
have streached appreciably anyway.
Frank
HDS 380 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Range of Bungee replacement questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
--> <larrymc@qconline.com>
Perry,
I purchased 5 spare 1080HD bungees with the thought that they will last
longer, IF as you say, they can be installed. I'd think that a carnuba
wax or silicone paste wax would make any rubbing area take a seat before
shreading delicate bungee wrap.
On re-assembly of the gear boxes,
I think a strip with nut plates, or better, a 3/16" thick metal strip
drilled, tapped and threaded to accept the small bolts will be my choice
for the reinstall.
I turned squares of 5/8" thick Delrin bearing material on the top and
the bottom of the strut supports, 4 bolts each and no bearings on the
tube side slides. Only have 76 hours on the plane, so there'd be no
detectible wear at this point. From a noise or wear standpoint, the
side slides don't seem to exist, because there aren't any real high
excentric loads.
see link images of installed bearings.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/bottom-side-of-top-skin-wit.
gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/upbrg.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/gear-bearings-top-and-botto.
gif
The caps stick above the wing, and if that distance has increased by
3/8" or more, I'd consider changing them.
I'd thought that with 5 bungees, you'd get a minimum of 400 hours on
these and more with the HD type. My bird weighs in at 730 empty and
1300 gross, but I don't believe they'd wear or fatigue quite that
rapidly, unless you're operating out of a bumpy field.
Is there some literal guidance for wear or fatigue on these? I've only
seen bungees that looked as old as the biplanes they were on.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Dr. Perry Morrison wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison"
>--> <perrymorrison@yahoo.com>
>
>
>Time to replace the bungees on my 601HD all round. I've searched the
archives but still have some issues:
>
>
>1. are the bungees ALL 1080s or 1080HD? I have a 912 installation and
>i'm assuming that
>
>the 1080s are enough for the lighter weight. Also, the nose gear bungee
>rubs a little on
>
>the U channel and I'm not keen on a fatter one going in there.
>
>
>2. gear boxes. This sounds a nightmare. Some people have added
>rivnuts/nutplates to replace
>
>the nuts. Access to them for tightening after bungee installation seems
a real problem. i note one poster has drilled a 5/8" hole to allow
better access and a different assembly procedure. if using rivnuts i
assume these would have to be lockwired together.
>
>
>3. lubrication of bungee. is there anything that could be used here
>without deteriorating it
>
>and/or the cotton that wraps it? is there any point?
>
>
>4. I may as well add UHMP bearings on the outer lower bearing and maybe
the slides.
>
>wondered if the top bearing deserved one on the inside? What amount of
>wear do people
>
>find on this top surface? I'm at the 200hr mark.
>
>
>thanks for any advice
>
>
>Perry Morrison
>
>
>__________________________
>Dr. Perry Morrison
>Morrison Associates Pty Ltd
>0408892638
>perrymorrison@yahoo.com
>__________________________
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel system parts / questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
No beating Bill...In fact I did the same, Just the goop avoids a
potential issue to the uninitiated. Done correctly the tape makes a
perfectly fine joint.
I have about a dozen rolls in my shop at any one time..:)
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William J.
Naumuk
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel system parts / questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk"
--> <billn@velocity.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Fuel system parts / questions
All-
Don't beat me for suggesting the use of Teflon tape! I used to build
race cars+bikes and never had a problem. Why? You wrap the tape
counter-clockwise for a right-hand thread. Any excess tape gets pushed
away from, rather than into the fuel line, and it improves the seal.
Works good on plain old plumbing, too.
Bill
> >
> > Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | First Flight of VH-JNL |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
What a pretty aeroplane...Very nice and congratulations!
Frank
HDS 380 hours
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zodie
Rocket
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: First Flight of VH-JNL
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Congrats on flight in your HDS and it does look mighty fine. My guess on
the Windshield switches is to choose left or right gas tank to be
displayed in the one gauge plus to activate the appropriate pump.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com
/ www.Osprey2.com do not archive -----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Livsey
Subject: Zenith-List: First Flight of VH-JNL
--> Zenith-List message posted by: John Livsey <jlivsey@bigpond.com>
All,
Although a avid reader of the list I don't post to many items. However
its worth reporting that after seven years of effort VH-JNL took to the
sunny skies on Saturday 15th October.
Some snaps are on my website at
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/jlivsey/testflying1.html or get to the
full story of construction at http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/jlivsey
regards john livsey
--
10/17/2005
--
10/17/2005
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| Subject: | Re: Range of Bungee replacement questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker" <d3dw@msn.com>
Just for the record, mine stretched almost immediately, and have been leaving about
3/8 inch sticking up for the past 300 hours. I visually inspect them annually.
No problem. Don walker
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2005 8:53 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Range of Bungee replacement questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com<mailto:frank.hinde@hp.com>>
Mine "seem" just fine after nearly 400 hours and 6 years. Don't seem to
have streached appreciably anyway.
Frank
HDS 380 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
To: zenith-list@matronics.com<mailto:zenith-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Range of Bungee replacement questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
--> <larrymc@qconline.com<mailto:larrymc@qconline.com>>
Perry,
I purchased 5 spare 1080HD bungees with the thought that they will last
longer, IF as you say, they can be installed. I'd think that a carnuba
wax or silicone paste wax would make any rubbing area take a seat before
shreading delicate bungee wrap.
On re-assembly of the gear boxes,
I think a strip with nut plates, or better, a 3/16" thick metal strip
drilled, tapped and threaded to accept the small bolts will be my choice
for the reinstall.
I turned squares of 5/8" thick Delrin bearing material on the top and
the bottom of the strut supports, 4 bolts each and no bearings on the
tube side slides. Only have 76 hours on the plane, so there'd be no
detectible wear at this point. From a noise or wear standpoint, the
side slides don't seem to exist, because there aren't any real high
excentric loads.
see link images of installed bearings.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/bottom-side-of-top-skin-wit<http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/bottom-side-of-top-skin-wit>.
gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/upbrg.gif<http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/upbrg.gif>
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif<http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif>
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/gear-bearings-top-and-botto<http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/gear-bearings-top-and-botto>.
gif
The caps stick above the wing, and if that distance has increased by
3/8" or more, I'd consider changing them.
I'd thought that with 5 bungees, you'd get a minimum of 400 hours on
these and more with the HD type. My bird weighs in at 730 empty and
1300 gross, but I don't believe they'd wear or fatigue quite that
rapidly, unless you're operating out of a bumpy field.
Is there some literal guidance for wear or fatigue on these? I've only
seen bungees that looked as old as the biplanes they were on.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com<http://www.macsmachine.com/>
Dr. Perry Morrison wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison"
>--> <perrymorrison@yahoo.com<mailto:perrymorrison@yahoo.com>>
>
>
>Time to replace the bungees on my 601HD all round. I've searched the
archives but still have some issues:
>
>
>1. are the bungees ALL 1080s or 1080HD? I have a 912 installation and
>i'm assuming that
>
>the 1080s are enough for the lighter weight. Also, the nose gear bungee
>rubs a little on
>
>the U channel and I'm not keen on a fatter one going in there.
>
>
>2. gear boxes. This sounds a nightmare. Some people have added
>rivnuts/nutplates to replace
>
>the nuts. Access to them for tightening after bungee installation seems
a real problem. i note one poster has drilled a 5/8" hole to allow
better access and a different assembly procedure. if using rivnuts i
assume these would have to be lockwired together.
>
>
>3. lubrication of bungee. is there anything that could be used here
>without deteriorating it
>
>and/or the cotton that wraps it? is there any point?
>
>
>4. I may as well add UHMP bearings on the outer lower bearing and maybe
the slides.
>
>wondered if the top bearing deserved one on the inside? What amount of
>wear do people
>
>find on this top surface? I'm at the 200hr mark.
>
>
>thanks for any advice
>
>
>Perry Morrison
>
>
>__________________________
>Dr. Perry Morrison
>Morrison Associates Pty Ltd
>0408892638
>perrymorrison@yahoo.com
>__________________________
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | N414PZ Landing incident |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
...
> I think the hydraulic fluid leaked out or let
> ...THe brakes just lost almost all effectiveness
This is not meant in any way as a criticism. I just want to learn something
from your experience. I have seen before-landing checklists that include
'testing' the brake pedals for resistance to ensure they are working... Or
I've always assumed that was the reason.
I've just realized that I don't currently include this item in my current
version of the before-landing checklist.
Do you think the problem have shown up by checking for brake pedal
resistance/pressure before landing? I would appreciate your insight because
obviously I'm thinking that this would be a good item to add to my own
checklist.
Thanks,
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
You've just been lucky. Teflon tape is a wonderful thing, but has it
limitations. Put it in your plumbing drawing to be use with PVC pipe or
throw it away. Never use it with anything that has an orifice/jet somewhere
in line. It's ok the first time as long as it doesn't go past the end of
the threads. However, it you undo it for any reason you WILL have little
pieces left in the threads that Will get into you system when you reinstall
the part.
Why do you insist on using something on your aircraft that has been proven
to cause problems? Especially, when there are better solutions out there.
Taking every possible precaution to keep your fuel system clean is probably
the best thing you can do for yourself and your passengers. If a DAR/FAA
inspector sees you using T-tape on fuel lines, he will gig you. If he
doesn't, he just missed it or isn't worth a.
Here's what you could or should use, Loctite 592 sealant with Teflon.
Larry, N1345L, www.angelfire.com/un/ch701.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: T-Tape ...
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
> I use Teflon tape all of the time. On cars, boats, air, water, fuel,
> drains, etc. Millions of people use t-tape in hundreds of applications.
>
>
> So why isn't it OK for a homebuilt airplane?
>
> Because when Jim-Bob's truck breaks down on farm road A12, it doesn't
> make the front page of the local paper. And Jim-Bob gets Phil to come
> out and help him tow the truck back to the garage where they spend the
> next day trouble shooting the fuel system.
>
>
> However, if Jim-Bob forced-landed his 601 on farm A12, you can bet that
> CNN will be the first ones out there begging for a post crash fire
> (preferably in the early morning to get that "magic-hour" lighting).
>
> There have been several incidents of loss of power due to crap in the
> fuel lines - and some of that crap has been Teflon shreddings.
>
> To prove it to yourself, loosen any t-tape connection and watch the
> shards. Loosening dope connections will reveal a compressed, but intact
> dope seal.
>
>
> Pipe dope does not shred, and will keep you off the evening news.
>
>
> BUILD SAFE - FLY SAFE
>
>
> Martin
> 701
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Fuel system parts / questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I remember when a common bumper sticker was "Question
Authority". This is certainly still good advice when it comes to our
government, but probably not such a good thing on technical issues.
Often the use of certain materials or procedures seems perfectly
reasonable, even through on careful analysis they are not. I
remember seeing something on this forum where a person had "fixed" a
creeping throttle control by putting a weaker spring on the
carburetor. Turned out to be a bad solution (engine would not always
attain full power).
I looked around my house for a reference to an application of Teflon
tape in an aircraft fuel system and could fine none.
Continental SIL99-2 lists all of the authorized sealants and no
Teflon tape. The service manual for my Cessna 206 explicitly warns
that only one of a small set of sealants be used anywhere in the fuel
system (no Teflon tape in the list). And from the fuel pump to the
engine, to use only "fuel-soluble lubricant, such as engine oil".
Unfortunately AC 43.13-1B (Par 8-38-f) probably adds more confusion
than illumination when it states "Do not use Teflon tape on any fuel
line" (clear enough, but it then goes on to say why) "to avoid
getting the tape between the flare and fitting".
I for one will stick with the accepted standards (AC's, manufacturers
manuals, and service bulletins) without question. I believe that
they provide the best and most consistent advice on the subjects that
they cover.
At 07:59 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
><frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
>No beating Bill...In fact I did the same, Just the goop avoids a
>potential issue to the uninitiated. Done correctly the tape makes a
>perfectly fine joint.
>
>I have about a dozen rolls in my shop at any one time..:)
>
>Frank
>
>Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: 701 aileron trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
Electric trim is an option available from ZAC. I purchased it and
had no problem installing it. $220, and listed on their pricing link
on their web page. I'm not flying mine yet, but the installation
went just fine.
At 09:29 PM 10/17/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com
>
>I am pretty sure I have read about people adding electric aileron trim on
>their 701s, but am not sure where. Is there a source for such
>things as best
>location and size of tab, servo choice, etc?
>
>Many thanks,
>
>Jim Greenough
>
>
Doug Kandle
CH701
Boise ID
Rudder & Horiz. Stab. done Working on Wings
From complete kit
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Just my .02 cents worth.
Been a C-36 (California Plumbing Contractor Code) for 30 years (no typo
thirty years). Teflon tape is great stuff for plugging large gaps in
threaded connections, like those found on PVC, CPVC and other plastic
fittings. Things like sprinkler pipe or worn out DWV (Drain Waste & Vent)
fitting threads like those 1 1/2" stub outs under your kitchen sink. Cast
iron, DWV copper or ABS where there is little pressure & loose fitting
threads. NOT fuel lines on an airplane. All you want to do is fill very
small imperfections AND lubricate the threads during assembly. Use fuel
lube...BUT only on the male end & a very little goes a LOOONG way. If shards
of Teflon tape will plug up the aerator on you kitchen faucet think what it
will cause to happen in a carburetor jet. Your faucet will continue to work
because there are dozens of holes, there is ONE hole in a jet. Plug it up &
you have a glider. I also have a dozen rolls in my garage, BUT none in my
hanger.
P.S. ON THE MALE THREADS ONLY.
KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
Subject: Zenith-List: T-Tape ...
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bima, Martin" <mbima@hydro.mb.ca>
>
>
> I use Teflon tape all of the time. On cars, boats, air, water, fuel,
> drains, etc. Millions of people use t-tape in hundreds of applications.
>
>
> So why isn't it OK for a homebuilt airplane?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
I just received information that the lead time for my next sub-kit
(XL fuselage) is 16 weeks. There was also some vague information
about efforts to increase production at ZAC to reduce the
ever-growing lead times.
Paul
XL Wings
do not archive
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | RE: 701 aileron trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net>
I've put on about 50 hours on my STOL 701 (flew it 1250 miles from WI to FL. last
week) and never even thought about aileron trim....it's so fine the way it
is. My 182 could have used it as a wing could get heavy with uneven fuel burn.
Has anyone thought that their 701 needed the trim? Just curious. Thanks. Tom
Schulke 701SP Rotax 912S
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick" <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
Are any of you using the Narco 910 ELT? I just got off the phone with
them and they want $210.00 to put in a new battery and certify it for two years.
I find this a bit of legal robery, myself, but I guess if it says "airplane"
on it anywhere, reach deep into your pockets! Has anyone used a different source
for the batteries? The Narco ELT manual says that any other battery may
harm the unit. I don't always buy that ploy, but I guess it is possible. I would
appreciate any and all valid responses to this quagmire.
Thanks, Rick.
MWMW 729 msl and sinking
Zodie XL 52EB
www.sharbo.us/thebird
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Hmm..Well your not going to do that 'cus you can buy an ELT new for less
than that!
What a bunch of BS...Can you find the voltage on the battery
anywhere?...Then have a look at www.batteries.com and see if they have
something that looks like it.
For that matter buy any battery of the same voltage and duct tape the
thing on the outside of the Narco.
Unless I've had my head up somewhere dark there is no requirement to
certify anything bu a transponder every 2 years VFR at least.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beckman,
Rick
Subject: Zenith-List: ELTs
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick"
--> <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
Are any of you using the Narco 910 ELT? I just got off the
phone with them and they want $210.00 to put in a new battery and
certify it for two years. I find this a bit of legal robery, myself, but
I guess if it says "airplane" on it anywhere, reach deep into your
pockets! Has anyone used a different source for the batteries? The
Narco ELT manual says that any other battery may harm the unit. I don't
always buy that ploy, but I guess it is possible. I would appreciate any
and all valid responses to this quagmire.
Thanks, Rick.
MWMW 729 msl and sinking
Zodie XL 52EB
www.sharbo.us/thebird
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
You could buy an Ameri-King AK-450 for less than that and it uses standard
alkaline D cells.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick" <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
>
>
> Are any of you using the Narco 910 ELT? I just got off the phone with
> them and they want $210.00 to put in a new battery and certify it for two
> years. I find this a bit of legal robery, myself, but I guess if it says
> "airplane" on it anywhere, reach deep into your pockets! Has anyone used a
> different source for the batteries? The Narco ELT manual says that any other
> battery may harm the unit. I don't always buy that ploy, but I guess it is
> possible. I would appreciate any and all valid responses to this quagmire.
>
> Thanks, Rick.
>
> MWMW 729 msl and sinking
> Zodie XL 52EB
>
> www.sharbo.us/thebird
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| Subject: | Re: RE: 701 aileron trim |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Tom,
That's really astounding! One never thinks about a 701 on such a long
flight. How many stops and how many days
did it take you to do this? I'd expect it's a great way to see the
country. Did you have an average speed?
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Tom and Joyce Schulke wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom and Joyce Schulke" <classpix@sbcglobal.net>
>
>I've put on about 50 hours on my STOL 701 (flew it 1250 miles from WI to FL. last
week) and never even thought about aileron trim....it's so fine the way it
is. My 182 could have used it as a wing could get heavy with uneven fuel burn.
Has anyone thought that their 701 needed the trim? Just curious. Thanks. Tom
Schulke 701SP Rotax 912S
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Bungee Deterioration: was Range of Bungee replacement questions |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison" <perrymorrison@yahoo.com>
From the archives and reponses to my query it seems people get pretty good lifetimes
from their bungees. I live in a highly variable climate (nth australia) with extreme
temps
and humidity for half the year and very low humidity the rest. I noticed with my
bungees
that once the wrap had frayed (mechanical, mould or whatever) it didn't take long
for them to deteriorate. They had that feel of old powdery dying rubber. reassuring!
But other climates seem to get better service life.
Don Walker <d3dw@msn.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Don Walker"
Just for the record, mine stretched almost immediately, and have been leaving about
3/8 inch sticking up for the past 300 hours. I visually inspect them annually.
No problem. Don walker
----- Original Message -----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Range of Bungee replacement questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" >
Mine "seem" just fine after nearly 400 hours and 6 years. Don't seem to
have streached appreciably anyway.
Frank
HDS 380 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Range of Bungee replacement questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland
--> >
Perry,
I purchased 5 spare 1080HD bungees with the thought that they will last
longer, IF as you say, they can be installed. I'd think that a carnuba
wax or silicone paste wax would make any rubbing area take a seat before
shreading delicate bungee wrap.
On re-assembly of the gear boxes,
I think a strip with nut plates, or better, a 3/16" thick metal strip
drilled, tapped and threaded to accept the small bolts will be my choice
for the reinstall.
I turned squares of 5/8" thick Delrin bearing material on the top and
the bottom of the strut supports, 4 bolts each and no bearings on the
tube side slides. Only have 76 hours on the plane, so there'd be no
detectible wear at this point. From a noise or wear standpoint, the
side slides don't seem to exist, because there aren't any real high
excentric loads.
see link images of installed bearings.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/bottom-side-of-top-skin-wit.
gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/upbrg.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/stratstops.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/gear/full/gear-bearings-top-and-botto.
gif
The caps stick above the wing, and if that distance has increased by
3/8" or more, I'd consider changing them.
I'd thought that with 5 bungees, you'd get a minimum of 400 hours on
these and more with the HD type. My bird weighs in at 730 empty and
1300 gross, but I don't believe they'd wear or fatigue quite that
rapidly, unless you're operating out of a bumpy field.
Is there some literal guidance for wear or fatigue on these? I've only
seen bungees that looked as old as the biplanes they were on.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
Dr. Perry Morrison wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dr. Perry Morrison"
>-->
>
>
>Time to replace the bungees on my 601HD all round. I've searched the
archives but still have some issues:
>
>
>1. are the bungees ALL 1080s or 1080HD? I have a 912 installation and
>i'm assuming that
>
>the 1080s are enough for the lighter weight. Also, the nose gear bungee
>rubs a little on
>
>the U channel and I'm not keen on a fatter one going in there.
>
>
>2. gear boxes. This sounds a nightmare. Some people have added
>rivnuts/nutplates to replace
>
>the nuts. Access to them for tightening after bungee installation seems
a real problem. i note one poster has drilled a 5/8" hole to allow
better access and a different assembly procedure. if using rivnuts i
assume these would have to be lockwired together.
>
>
>3. lubrication of bungee. is there anything that could be used here
>without deteriorating it
>
>and/or the cotton that wraps it? is there any point?
>
>
>4. I may as well add UHMP bearings on the outer lower bearing and maybe
the slides.
>
>wondered if the top bearing deserved one on the inside? What amount of
>wear do people
>
>find on this top surface? I'm at the 200hr mark.
>
>
>thanks for any advice
>
>
>Perry Morrison
>
>
>__________________________
>Dr. Perry Morrison
>Morrison Associates Pty Ltd
>0408892638
>perrymorrison@yahoo.com
>__________________________
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: N414PZ Landing incident |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gbrac80@aol.com
Applying the brakes before landing has at least two purposes:
1) On some aircraft, parking brakes are released by the application of brake
pedal pressure. Therefore, applying brake pedal pressure prior to landing
should release the parking brakes if they had been applied during flight.
(Perhaps during a demonstration of the application of parking brakes to a
passenger). This might help extend the life of the tires and perhaps also extend
the life of pilot, passenger(s) or ground personnel.
2) Applying brake pedal pressure might elevate the level of confidence that
the brakes are ready to work upon landing.
Rgds,
Mike.
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| Subject: | Teflon Tape Final Word |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
All-
The reason you haven't heard anything from me since yesterday is because I
just got home from a 14-1/2 hr day and couldn't respond. After the first round
of "Try this stuff instead", I would have said, "OK". If I wasn't interested
in hearing about different ways to do things, I wouldn't bother with the list.
Just like the Sharpie remover- I keep lighter fluid and mineral spirits (Paint
thinner) around for removing part stickers. I never figured plain old rubbing
alcohol would kick major butt for getting Sharpie marks off. (I'm sure the other
suggestions work, too, I just happened to have a bottle of rubbing alcohol
around).
I couldn't understand why all the fuss about teflon tape. You put it on correctly
the first time and you forget about it. Why was everyone so concerned about
fragments being torn off when a joint was R+R'd? Then it hit me.
You people installed leading edge wing tanks. You probably disconnect the joints
at least twice a year, at the start of flying season when you put the plane
together, and at the end when you put it into storage.
I was going to stick with just the 18 gal header tank, good for 2-1/2 to 3
hrs plus VFR reserves (Except for an O-235), which is the extent of my butt endurance.
If I need more, I'll retrofit the wing locker option. Put it together
correctly once, and, hopefully, forget about it.
Bill
do not archive
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Received-SPF: none (mgr1.xmission.com: 166.70.39.121 is neither permitted nor denied
by domain of craigandjean.com) client-ip=166.70.39.121; envelope-from=craig@craigandjean.com;
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Heck, you can buy a new ELT for less than that:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ak450elt.php
If you (or anyone else) wants to avoid this trap in the future this ACK ELT
takes D cells:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ack_tech.php
On the other hand if you are interested in the next generation of ELTs you
can buy one of these for about $1000:
http://www.artex.net/me406.html
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Beckman, Rick
Subject: Zenith-List: ELTs
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Beckman, Rick"
--> <Rick.Beckman@atk.com>
Are any of you using the Narco 910 ELT? I just got off the phone
with them and they want $210.00 to put in a new battery and certify it for
two years. I find this a bit of legal robery, myself, but I guess if it says
"airplane" on it anywhere, reach deep into your pockets! Has anyone used a
different source for the batteries? The Narco ELT manual says that any
other battery may harm the unit. I don't always buy that ploy, but I guess
it is possible. I would appreciate any and all valid responses to this
quagmire.
Thanks, Rick.
MWMW 729 msl and sinking
Zodie XL 52EB
www.sharbo.us/thebird
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| Subject: | 601 XL Parts for Sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Josh" <dvoverdt@hotmail.com>
I have the following parts for sale:
1 tail section 80% completed
1 set of drawings and manuals
I bought the tail kit at this stage of completion as part of
a package when I was buying a wing kit. I already have
a complete tail assembly and my wife doesn't see why I
need two.
I have numerous photos of the assembly process and the quality
of the work looks very good.
I am located in Tucson, AZ.
Approximate value $1800. Will sell for $1100
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| Subject: | Bungee Deterioration: was Range of Bungee replacement |
questions
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Perry,
Don't know if this is even a valid suggestion but a 50/50 mixture of green
soap and glycerin is used to preserve and lubricate the long rubber band
strands used to power rubber powered model airplanes. It's kind of sticky
and slimy at the same time, but does an excellent job of making rubber
pliable for long periods of time. Seems like with the woven cover on the
bungees, it would be weird at best.
Paul Moore
XL - 0200
...........They had that feel of old powdery dying rubber. reassuring!
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
If you go with that carb I have a excellent condition carb heat box with Bracket
filter that would fit it if you need one. I also have a 3" prop extension for
a Continental pattern.
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon Tape Final Word |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Two short thoughts. Why the "fuss" ?, because in 30 years of plumbing I've
seen Teflon tape "correctly" installed & still have bits of it down stream.
Water/gas/air lines. Just trying to save you (and others who read this list)
from having an "the engine just quit" moment. Plumbed the wing tanks lines 5
years ago. Have not taken them apart except for the in-line filter
replacement. BUT since I would not use tape I don't have to think about
Teflon shards. We have 360 days of flying season at Apple Valley,
California Airport. We also do the pullup part of the missing man formations
for fallen pilots. KABONG Do Not Archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Teflon Tape Final Word
> I couldn't understand why all the fuss about teflon tape. You put it on
> correctly the first time and you forget about it. Why was everyone so
> concerned about fragments being torn off when a joint was R+R'd? Then it
> hit me.
> You people installed leading edge wing tanks. You probably disconnect
> the joints at least twice a year, at the start of flying season when you
> put the plane together, and at the end when you put it into storage.
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| Subject: | Re: Teflon Tape Final Word |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Bingo!
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| Subject: | XL Project for sale |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rob Norris" <DryCreekRob@earthlink.net>
For Sale:
Zenair Zodiac XL airframe kit, new in crate Jabiru 3300 engine, Jabiru Sport USA
firewall forward package with engine mount, cowl, Sensenich prop. Horizontal
stabilizer, elevator and rudder completed. Wings almost complete. Navigation
lights with strobe option installed. Firewall, fuselage started, about 10% complete.
Sigtronics intercom, clecos, pneumatic riveter, hand tools, lots of extras
like turnbuckles, nutplates, other fasteners from Aircraft Spruce included.
Asking price for all: $33,940.
Also for sale:
1.. King Schools Recreational pilot Course.
2.. King Schools Sport pilot course.
3.. Sporty's Sport pilot course.
Email: DryCreekRob -at- Earthlink.net
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds" <kevinbonds@comcast.net>
Hello All
I'm having trouble finding Nyoil. Does anyone have a supplier? Also is this
stuff sometimes called Vekton? I can't find either at AS or Wicks.
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
<http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds> http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eddie Seve" <eddie.seve@clarity.com>
Try the following link
http://www.grobetusa.com/ProductDescriptions/nyoil.html
Regards
Eddie Seve
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Hello All
I'm having trouble finding Nyoil. Does anyone have a supplier? Also is
this
stuff sometimes called Vekton? I can't find either at AS or Wicks.
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
<http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds>
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