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1. 12:40 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Oil leak. (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
2. 12:45 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Oil leak. (owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com)
3. 03:04 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Paul Mulwitz)
4. 04:34 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/21/05 (Grant Corriveau)
5. 05:35 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Zodie Rocket)
6. 08:56 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Gbrac80@aol.com)
7. 08:59 AM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/21/05 (Jeffrey Glasserow)
8. 09:26 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (William J. Naumuk)
9. 10:12 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Aaron)
10. 10:20 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Paul Mulwitz)
11. 10:21 AM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Paul Mulwitz)
12. 10:44 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Oil leak. (JERICKSON03E@aol.com)
13. 01:08 PM - Rudder Camera (Zodie Rocket)
14. 03:35 PM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Monty Graves)
15. 04:35 PM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Lee Thomas)
16. 04:35 PM - 701 912S airbox (Joseph Pedginski)
17. 06:26 PM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Paul Mulwitz)
18. 07:30 PM - 701 on eBay (Rick R)
19. 08:20 PM - Matco wheel bearings follow-up (Paul Hartl)
20. 08:24 PM - Stabilizer attachment skin holes (Michael Valentine)
21. 08:35 PM - HDS-Jab at altitude (Paul Hartl)
22. 08:43 PM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (Randy L. Thwing)
23. 09:14 PM - Re: Stabilizer attachment skin holes (Paul Mulwitz)
24. 09:38 PM - Re: Kit Builder Forever. (kevinbonds)
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Oil leak. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Hello Dave.
I will contact a machine mechanic on Monday, and see if he can do anything
to help. Not sure if the leak is high or low pressure, but will test the
compression before I take everything apart again. Lockwood suggested the
loctite 222 for that reason to mate the two parts together, but I should
have tried the high temp gasket. There are many options to try to solve
this leak before I try spending over $ 5.000 for new heads. I do have some
time to spare.
Thank you,
Johann G.
do not archive
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Austin" <daveaustin2@sprint.ca>
>
> Is there no way you can get a machine shop to true up the face of the
> heads,
> before you spend that much per head?
> Are you getting compression leaks through the head joints? If not, the
> leaks can only be at very low pressure, so you could try a liquid gasket
> approach. Can't think of a name but someone on the list will know.
> Dave Austin 601HDS - 912, Spitfire Mk VIII
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Oil leak. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by:
Hello Don.
I tried the link but nothing. Can you check it out? It may be my server.
Thank you,
Johann G.
do not archive
>
> Johann; Go to http://tinyurl.com/a5tqr and read the head gasket problem
> fix on Ford V6s by Bruce Franks... If the heads are not warped too bad,
> his
> method might fix your problem.....
> Don
>
>
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| Subject: | Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the offer.
I did some reading in the archives when I started my adventure and
learned few people actually use the steel dies shown in Zenith's
instruction manual. I also saw several suggestions about using a
slotted stick for making the flange. I tried it once on some scrap
and it actually seems like the right approach for one or two
parts. It is certainly easier to "Master" than the sharp bend of a
tiny 4 mm flange on the front of the nose rib.
If I were scratch building, I would make some dies - probably from
wood and plastic (HDPE?). But I am not going to scratch build my
next plane . . . am I?
Paul
XL wings
do not archive
At 11:34 PM 10/21/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds" <kevinbonds@comcast.net>
>
>Paul
>
>I don't think any artist ever painted a masterpiece on the first try . . .
>Of course I've never tried to paint. Ha! The Lightning hole would be hard
>to do without the proper dies. Maybe someone in your area could do it for
>you. I would be glad to flange your "masterpiece", but I am far from you.
>Probably would be expensive to ship to me.
>
>Kevin Bonds
>
>Nashville TN
>
>601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
>
>Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
>
>http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
>
>
>do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Well, I screwed up one of my kit supplied nose ribs. "No big deal" I
>said, I'll just make another one.
>
>Now, several days later I have my first scratch built nose
>rib. Well, I did have the example from the kit to guide me (which
>helped me avoid several mistakes). It is probably air worthy, but
>certainly ugly. It curves where it is supposed to be straight. It
>has wrinkles where it is supposed to be smooth. It looks really
>bad. (And I still have to figure out how I am going to flare the
>lightening hole!)
>
>All of you scratch builders out there get my admiration. For me, it
>is Kit Builder Forever.
>
>Paul
>XL wings
>do not archive
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Paul Mulwitz
>32013 NE Dial Road
>Camas, WA 98607
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
---------------------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/21/05 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Jeff Glasserow
> CH 601 HDS & 3 land speed records to boot!
Do you mean you're flying low!? Or that your 'other flying machine' is a
motorcycle? -- sorry, couldn't resist
Congrats!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
do not archive
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| Subject: | Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Hi Paul I have used the stick method on several occasions when my metal
dies just wouldn't fit and it works well.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Mulwitz
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
<p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Kevin,
Thanks for the offer.
I did some reading in the archives when I started my adventure and
learned few people actually use the steel dies shown in Zenith's
instruction manual. I also saw several suggestions about using a
slotted stick for making the flange. I tried it once on some scrap
and it actually seems like the right approach for one or two
parts. It is certainly easier to "Master" than the sharp bend of a
tiny 4 mm flange on the front of the nose rib.
If I were scratch building, I would make some dies - probably from
wood and plastic (HDPE?). But I am not going to scratch build my
next plane . . . am I?
Paul
XL wings
do not archive
At 11:34 PM 10/21/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds"
<kevinbonds@comcast.net>
>
>Paul
>
>I don't think any artist ever painted a masterpiece on the first try .
. .
>Of course I've never tried to paint. Ha! The Lightning hole would be
hard
>to do without the proper dies. Maybe someone in your area could do it
for
>you. I would be glad to flange your "masterpiece", but I am far from
you.
>Probably would be expensive to ship to me.
>
>Kevin Bonds
>
>Nashville TN
>
>601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
>
>Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
>
>http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
>
>
>do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Mulwitz
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
<p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Well, I screwed up one of my kit supplied nose ribs. "No big deal" I
>said, I'll just make another one.
>
>Now, several days later I have my first scratch built nose
>rib. Well, I did have the example from the kit to guide me (which
>helped me avoid several mistakes). It is probably air worthy, but
>certainly ugly. It curves where it is supposed to be straight. It
>has wrinkles where it is supposed to be smooth. It looks really
>bad. (And I still have to figure out how I am going to flare the
>lightening hole!)
>
>All of you scratch builders out there get my admiration. For me, it
>is Kit Builder Forever.
>
>Paul
>XL wings
>do not archive
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Paul Mulwitz
>32013 NE Dial Road
>Camas, WA 98607
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
---------------------------------------------
--
10/21/2005
--
10/21/2005
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gbrac80@aol.com
Paul,
If your lightening hole is the same size as mine, 3.75" dia, I would be
happy to flange your nose rib for you.
Rgds,
Mike.
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/21/05 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeffrey Glasserow" <jeffglass@starband.net>
Let's see... My 1999 CH 601 HDS cruises @ 105 MPH @ 75% power, top speed WOT
is 115 MPH. (Lycoming 0-235, 100LL)
My 1934 Indian Scout cruises at 125 MPH @ 75% power, top speed (an average
of two runs, one in each direction to negate wind effect,
131.8 MPH) Indian Scout motor 45 cubic inches, (750 CC's), 87 octane pump
fuel.
Now, THAT'S flying!
Jeff Glasserow
DO NOT ARCHIVE!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Grant
Corriveau
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Zenith-List Digest: 18 Msgs - 10/21/05
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Jeff Glasserow
> CH 601 HDS & 3 land speed records to boot!
Do you mean you're flying low!? Or that your 'other flying machine' is a
motorcycle? -- sorry, couldn't resist
Congrats!
--
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Mulwitz" <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
<p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
> Well, I screwed up one of my kit supplied nose ribs. "No big deal" I
> said, I'll just make another one.
>
Paul-
I know I can help you out, since I'm now an expert at making
replacement kit parts. It only takes me 2-3 tries to get a satisfactory part
now!
1. I made one of the crimping tools shown in the Zenith Construction
Manual, and it works, but if I were building from scratch I'd get the
crimping tool listed in ACS for around $30. If you use the Zenith tool, the
secret is to only bend 10mm in from the edge of the flange- not the whole
way. If you do, you'll kink the perimeter of the rib. What you do is add or
remove crimp until you can lay the rib on your workbench and it sits as flat
as you can get it.
2. Get the flanging tool from ACS- $14.95. Practice on some scrap until
you get the hang of it.
Bill
do not
archive
> ---------------------------------------------
> Paul Mulwitz
> 32013 NE Dial Road
> Camas, WA 98607
> ---------------------------------------------
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" <agustafson@chartermi.net>
When I first got my plans, I thought the tool in the instructions looked
like a cheap and junky way to do it so I bought one from one of the aircraft
suppliers. It worked OK? but when the plastic jaw broke and I was in a hurry
to keep on building, I made one of the plans tools and, to my surprise, I
found that it is far better than the purchased one and makes perfect,
beautiful and custom flutes that a plier type crimper could never do.It lies
in the realm of art, not utility.
Aaron do not archive
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| Subject: | Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the message.
I also got one from Bob Sceppa suggesting a method of quickly making
wood dies using a fly cutter (circle cutter). I tried his method
just now with limited success. It made a nice male die part, but the
female part I got was not up to snuff - the whole thing didn't center
the part and die halves when pressing.
I used the stick method to finish off that part. I think I will keep
on pursuing a nice way to make these flanges, but may not make much
progress for a while. My motivation is lacking now that I have the
part I need. Of course, the part isn't very nice . . .
Thanks again,
Paul
At 05:33 AM 10/22/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
>Hi Paul I have used the stick method on several occasions when my metal
>dies just wouldn't fit and it works well.
>
>Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
>Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
>President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
>www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>Mulwitz
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
><p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Hi Kevin,
>
>Thanks for the offer.
>
>I did some reading in the archives when I started my adventure and
>learned few people actually use the steel dies shown in Zenith's
>instruction manual. I also saw several suggestions about using a
>slotted stick for making the flange. I tried it once on some scrap
>and it actually seems like the right approach for one or two
>parts. It is certainly easier to "Master" than the sharp bend of a
>tiny 4 mm flange on the front of the nose rib.
>
>If I were scratch building, I would make some dies - probably from
>wood and plastic (HDPE?). But I am not going to scratch build my
>next plane . . . am I?
>
>Paul
>XL wings
>do not archive
>
>At 11:34 PM 10/21/2005, you wrote:
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds"
><kevinbonds@comcast.net>
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >I don't think any artist ever painted a masterpiece on the first try .
>. .
> >Of course I've never tried to paint. Ha! The Lightning hole would be
>hard
> >to do without the proper dies. Maybe someone in your area could do it
>for
> >you. I would be glad to flange your "masterpiece", but I am far from
>you.
> >Probably would be expensive to ship to me.
> >
> >Kevin Bonds
> >
> >Nashville TN
> >
> >601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
> >
> >Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
> >
> >http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
> >
> >
> >do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>Mulwitz
> >To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
> >
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
><p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
> >
> >Well, I screwed up one of my kit supplied nose ribs. "No big deal" I
> >said, I'll just make another one.
> >
> >Now, several days later I have my first scratch built nose
> >rib. Well, I did have the example from the kit to guide me (which
> >helped me avoid several mistakes). It is probably air worthy, but
> >certainly ugly. It curves where it is supposed to be straight. It
> >has wrinkles where it is supposed to be smooth. It looks really
> >bad. (And I still have to figure out how I am going to flare the
> >lightening hole!)
> >
> >All of you scratch builders out there get my admiration. For me, it
> >is Kit Builder Forever.
> >
> >Paul
> >XL wings
> >do not archive
> >
> >---------------------------------------------
> >Paul Mulwitz
> >32013 NE Dial Road
> >Camas, WA 98607
> >---------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Paul Mulwitz
>32013 NE Dial Road
>Camas, WA 98607
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
>--
>10/21/2005
>
>
>--
>10/21/2005
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Mike,
Thanks for the offer.
I have been having fun trying different methods for the flange. I
already have one finished part, so the urgency is not high. Still, I
want to find a neat way to do this function.
Best regards,
Paul
At 08:55 AM 10/22/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gbrac80@aol.com
>
>Paul,
>
>If your lightening hole is the same size as mine, 3.75" dia, I would be
>happy to flange your nose rib for you.
>
>Rgds,
>
>Mike.
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
---------------------------------------------
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Oil leak. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com
In a message dated 10/21/2005 3:15:55 PM Central Daylight Time, johann@gi.is
writes:
found out where the leak is coming from. It is leaking between the cylinders
and the heads on all four.
Johann,
Given the info of where you have determined the oil leak to be, on all four
cylinders, there is a source for such a leak. In fact there are eight sources.
Check to be sure that the NUTS for the lower studs are the correct type &
part number. These are for the studs that are INSIDE of the valve covers.
The Lockwood Catalogue shows the nuts as COLLAR CAP NUTS, P.N. 842471, used
at eight places. All INSIDE of the valve covers.
The inside of the valve cover/cyl head chamber is oil whetted from oil flow
through the push rods. That oil is intended to return to the crankcase through
the return tubes. If the COLLAR CAP NUTS are not used, just regular nuts, oil
could follow the thread gap, between the nut and stud threads, and show up as
a leak, constant small leak, between the cylinder head and the cylinder. That
would be the first gap to the out side. Could be your leaks. If so, easy to
correct.
The leaks you have described seem to me to be from a crankcase pressurized
source, rather than from an oil pump pressure source.
Also recheck to be sure that the leaks are not from around the outside ends
of the return tubes, where they go into the cylinder heads, and are sealed with
LOCKTITE. The tube ends are not near the gap that you have determined to show
the leaks, but leaking oil is sneaky stuff to pinpoint.
Good hunting.
Jerry
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
Hi Guys, I'm running wires and final closing structures in my 601XL and
I want to install a remote camera on the top of my rudder for taping in
flight video's. I remember some discussion before on this, but would
like an update on the idea. Anyone done this and if so hints and tricks
please and some camera suggestions would be nice.
Thanks
cdngoose
--
10/21/2005
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
http://members.tripod.com/zodiacbuilder/ribforming.htm
At 10:21 AM 10/22/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>Thanks for the offer.
>
>I have been having fun trying different methods for the flange. I
>already have one finished part, so the urgency is not high. Still, I
>want to find a neat way to do this function.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Paul
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| Subject: | Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lee Thomas" <cltvet@mail.ocis.net>
Turned out male and female parts for flanging using plastic(dielren)on a
lathe.
They work great.
Lee (701 scratch builder)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the message.
I also got one from Bob Sceppa suggesting a method of quickly making
wood dies using a fly cutter (circle cutter). I tried his method
just now with limited success. It made a nice male die part, but the
female part I got was not up to snuff - the whole thing didn't center
the part and die halves when pressing.
I used the stick method to finish off that part. I think I will keep
on pursuing a nice way to make these flanges, but may not make much
progress for a while. My motivation is lacking now that I have the
part I need. Of course, the part isn't very nice . . .
Thanks again,
Paul
At 05:33 AM 10/22/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
>Hi Paul I have used the stick method on several occasions when my metal
>dies just wouldn't fit and it works well.
>
>Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
>Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
>President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
>www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>Mulwitz
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
><p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Hi Kevin,
>
>Thanks for the offer.
>
>I did some reading in the archives when I started my adventure and
>learned few people actually use the steel dies shown in Zenith's
>instruction manual. I also saw several suggestions about using a
>slotted stick for making the flange. I tried it once on some scrap
>and it actually seems like the right approach for one or two
>parts. It is certainly easier to "Master" than the sharp bend of a
>tiny 4 mm flange on the front of the nose rib.
>
>If I were scratch building, I would make some dies - probably from
>wood and plastic (HDPE?). But I am not going to scratch build my
>next plane . . . am I?
>
>Paul
>XL wings
>do not archive
>
>At 11:34 PM 10/21/2005, you wrote:
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds"
><kevinbonds@comcast.net>
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >I don't think any artist ever painted a masterpiece on the first try .
>. .
> >Of course I've never tried to paint. Ha! The Lightning hole would be
>hard
> >to do without the proper dies. Maybe someone in your area could do it
>for
> >you. I would be glad to flange your "masterpiece", but I am far from
>you.
> >Probably would be expensive to ship to me.
> >
> >Kevin Bonds
> >
> >Nashville TN
> >
> >601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
> >
> >Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
> >
> >http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
> >
> >
> >do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> >[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul
>Mulwitz
> >To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
> >
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
><p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
> >
> >Well, I screwed up one of my kit supplied nose ribs. "No big deal" I
> >said, I'll just make another one.
> >
> >Now, several days later I have my first scratch built nose
> >rib. Well, I did have the example from the kit to guide me (which
> >helped me avoid several mistakes). It is probably air worthy, but
> >certainly ugly. It curves where it is supposed to be straight. It
> >has wrinkles where it is supposed to be smooth. It looks really
> >bad. (And I still have to figure out how I am going to flare the
> >lightening hole!)
> >
> >All of you scratch builders out there get my admiration. For me, it
> >is Kit Builder Forever.
> >
> >Paul
> >XL wings
> >do not archive
> >
> >---------------------------------------------
> >Paul Mulwitz
> >32013 NE Dial Road
> >Camas, WA 98607
> >---------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------
>Paul Mulwitz
>32013 NE Dial Road
>Camas, WA 98607
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
>--
>10/21/2005
>
>
>--
>10/21/2005
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Joseph Pedginski" <jpedginski@gci.com>
Does anyone out there have a 912S airbox they would like to sell? I live in alaska
and need to take advantage of the carb heat.
Joe Pedginski
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Thanks, Monty.
What a great web page showing the steps for making wing ribs. I left
the link below so others can find it from the archives.
I really enjoyed reading your web presentation. I would recommend it
highly to anyone - even those who already know how to make ribs.
I think you should start selling your fluting tool. It looks like it
works a lot better than the strange thing Zenith sent me with my wing
kit (I didn't even ask for it.) I suppose I could try to copy your
tool, but would be delighted to order one if there were a place to do that.
I have been struggling with wood flanging dies all day. Your ball
bearing "Stick" looks like a really nice solution to this
problem. My wood stick works OK, but I can see the bearings would
make it a lot nicer and quicker to use.
I have some wood flanging dies that almost work OK, but I don't have
anything in my shop powerful enough to form full 100 mm flanges in
one pass. I am thinking of a pilgrimage to Harbor Freight for one of
their low end hydraulic presses to do this. I have been thinking of
getting one of them anyway with the idea in mind of making a press
brake for straight bending anyway.
Thanks again,
Paul
XL wings
At 03:32 PM 10/22/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
>
>
>http://members.tripod.com/zodiacbuilder/ribforming.htm
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/STOL-CH-701-Plane_W0QQitemZ4583918186QQcategoryZ63677QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Item number: 4583918186
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.geocities.com/n701rr/index.html
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| Subject: | Matco wheel bearings follow-up |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Hartl" <paulhartl@cox.net>
I am very happy to report that Matco's support for my failed wheel
bearing was wonderful. I sent the wheel to Matco on Tuesday, and
received it back Thursday afternoon, with both bearings replaced, plus 4
new bearings sold to me at cost to replace those still in my other two
wheels.
The original bearings in my wheels (sold to me through Zenith in 1998)
were Chinese-made and of poor quality, and have been problematic for the
new owners of Matco - new, that is, since they bought the company in
2000. I was mistaken in my earlier note saying that these should have
been tapered roller bearings. According to George Happ at Matco, they
were always ball bearings, and that's what my new bearings are as well.
I have some confidence that these replacement bearings will fix the
problem, as George seemed very much on top of the problem and extremely
interested in making sure that my wheels were fixed and that I was
satisfied customer.
-Paul
Paul Hartl, N414PZ, 601HDS/Jabiru 3300A, 25 hrs, 35 landings
Flight Simulator 2002/4 Zodiac Website: www.members.cox.net/paulhartl
Sun Valley, Idaho 83340 208-788-9147
<http://www.members.cox.net/paulhartl>
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| Subject: | Stabilizer attachment skin holes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
I just finished my stabilizer skeleton and pulled out the skin. The
photo manual (page 3 of 6-t-2a) shows drilling out the *channel* for
the front attach points, but someone - I assume from the factory -
drew in marker on the skin indicating to cut out the *entire triangle*
between the three pre-drilled holes. The drawings, which I understand
have just been updated, still show a channel.
Can someone give me a head's up on what the current practice is.
Please reply (or copy me) off list.
Thanks, Michael Valentine
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| Subject: | HDS-Jab at altitude |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Hartl" <paulhartl@cox.net>
Listers,
I pushed my Jab-powered HDS up through 12,500 MSL (2,000 AGL) this
morning, with me and about 15 gallons of fuel aboard. My VSI was
reading about 450 fpm from 11,500' to 12,500', at a climb speed of about
80 mph indicated. After reaching 12,500', I cruised at about 110 mph
TAS sipping 3.6 gph, at about 2550 RPM. OAT was around 4 degrees C.
This is much better altitude performance than I expected (although I'm
sure warmer temps and a passenger will greatly reduce these nice
numbers.) The Jabiru carby economy tuning kit really makes a big
difference, reducing fuel consumption hugely at a moderate cruise speed
like 110 mph.
-Paul
Paul Hartl, N414PZ, 601HDS/Jabiru 3300A, 25 hrs, 35 landings
Flight Simulator 2002/4 Zodiac Website: www.members.cox.net/paulhartl
Sun Valley, Idaho 83340 208-788-9147
<http://www.members.cox.net/paulhartl>
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| Subject: | Re: Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy L. Thwing" <n4546v@mindspring.com>
The beauty of plans building is that when a part is messed up, you don't
have to wait for ZA to make you one, ship one, and pay the higher price, you
just roll out some metal and start again, you can have your replacement
part that afternoon.
This is old hat for list veterans, but if any of the new guys would like
to see photos of my "gravity powered" lightning hole flanging press, send me
a request off list and I will forward them.
Regards,
Randy L. Thwing, Las Vegas
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> >Hi Mike,
> >
> >Thanks for the offer.
> >
> >I have been having fun trying different methods for the flange. I
> >already have one finished part, so the urgency is not high. Still, I
> >want to find a neat way to do this function.
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Stabilizer attachment skin holes |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Michael,
I think either approach will work. It is easier to cut out the
triangle (if I remember correctly, it is around 1 inch on each
side). You will need to remove the skin several times to get it all
worked out before final riveting, and the full triangle cutout will
make this a little easier. I think it winds up being hidden in the
final product anyway.
Good luck,
Paul
XL wings
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At 08:20 PM 10/22/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine <mgvalentine@gmail.com>
>
>I just finished my stabilizer skeleton and pulled out the skin. The
>photo manual (page 3 of 6-t-2a) shows drilling out the *channel* for
>the front attach points, but someone - I assume from the factory -
>drew in marker on the skin indicating to cut out the *entire triangle*
>between the three pre-drilled holes. The drawings, which I understand
>have just been updated, still show a channel.
>
>Can someone give me a head's up on what the current practice is.
>
>Please reply (or copy me) off list.
>
>Thanks, Michael Valentine
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Kit Builder Forever. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds" <kevinbonds@comcast.net>
Wow! Nice step by step instructions. I especially liked the balsa wood
trick! Why didn't I think of that!
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Monty Graves
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Kit Builder Forever.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Monty Graves <mgraves@usmo.com>
http://members.tripod.com/zodiacbuilder/ribforming.htm
At 10:21 AM 10/22/2005 -0700, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
<p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
>
>Hi Mike,
>
>Thanks for the offer.
>
>I have been having fun trying different methods for the flange. I
>already have one finished part, so the urgency is not high. Still, I
>want to find a neat way to do this function.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Paul
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