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1. 04:25 AM - Re: Builder location map (Zodie Rocket)
2. 06:18 AM - Re: Builder location map (N5SL)
3. 06:56 AM - Re: Hobbs Install ()
4. 08:17 AM - Re: Fuel pressure gauge (Ken Lilja)
5. 08:58 AM - Hot Box (neitzel)
6. 09:12 AM - Re: Hobbs Install (Elwood140@aol.com)
7. 10:56 AM - Builder location map (Zodie Rocket)
8. 11:24 AM - Re: Builder location map (kobo1)
9. 01:47 PM - Re: Builder location map (Zodie Rocket)
10. 03:21 PM - Re: Builder location map (Roger)
11. 04:01 PM - Re: Builder location map (ROBERT SCEPPA)
12. 04:08 PM - Re: Builder location map (Ricardo Nascimento)
13. 04:49 PM - Re: Builder location map (Zodie Rocket)
14. 05:00 PM - Re: Builder location map (ROBERT SCEPPA)
15. 06:59 PM - Mark Evans A ~~ Is Born (Rick R)
16. 07:10 PM - Sebring Postponed (Rick R)
17. 07:17 PM - Map (Matt & Jo)
18. 09:07 PM - Re: Hobbs Install (Mike Fothergill)
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| Subject: | Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Guys so far 18 people in total have signed up and have placed a flag on
the map. This is truly a great tool for us!! It is too cool. Lets find
out where the concentration of Zenith owners are!
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
OK, I'm in - Thanks Mark! Very nice! I've got Nebraska all to myself. Let's
get some more tags on the map.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zodie Rocket"
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
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> http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
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> http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs Install |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
Also, you should check with Kuntzleman Electronics at the link below.
kestrobes.com
They manufacture and sell a hotbox system for ultralight and sport aircraft that
assures that the Hobbs doesn't run until the engine does. It is done electronically
but don't ask me to explain how.... ask Kuntzleman. The owner is a very
helpful and easy guy to work with and he can probably rig an electrical circuit
that would do the job without an oil pressure activated switch. For those
who are interested, he can likely produce a wiring package for your plane that
is nearly "plug and play" .
Ed
>
> From: RURUNY@aol.com
> Date: 2005/10/25 Tue PM 08:54:43 EDT
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
>
> I have been trying for a while to figure out a way to get the hobbs running
> automatically at "engine start" without having to install an oil pressure
> switch with the pressure sensor. I would have to install a Tee but the brackets
> for the radiator are in the way. I just happend to be browsing the entries on
> the aeroelectric list and found this post from Gerry Holland. I am going to
> use this, I thought for some here it might be useful:
>
> Brian Unruh
> Long Island, NY
>
> Bob Hi!
>
> I'm using a device called Power Genie to supply start and stop Voltage to
> Hobbs Meter. About to start my Rotax Engine. OK?
>
> Find it at:
>
> _http://www.powergenie.central5.com/_ (http://www.powergenie.central5.com/)
>
> Regards
>
> Gerry
>
>
> ____________________________________
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel pressure gauge |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ken Lilja <planes_by_ken@bellsouth.net>
For float cabs, 0 - 15 PSI is fine. operating max pressure is about 4
-6 PSI.
Ken Lilja
victor verdev wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: victor verdev <vjvus@yahoo.com>
>
>What range should A fuel pressure gauge have for my
>601XL; installing Lycoming 0-235. 0-15 psi.,or 0-30
>psi.? thanks
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "neitzel" <n963wb@frontiernet.net>
Greetings all
Someone mentioned the use of a "hot box" for wiring. I installed a hot box in
my Kolb Mark III with a 582 and found it much more complicated to hook into the
system than running separate wiring. The wiring included with the EIS was top
drawer but would not consider another hot box.
Appreciated the input on the various devices to activate the Hobbs. Have a ways
to go before I think about wiring but had thoughts about how I was going to
drive the hour meter.
Dick Neitzel
701 Jabiru 2200
10% done and having a ball
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs Install |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Elwood140@aol.com
In a message dated 10/25/2005 10:30:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
zodierocket@hsfx.ca writes:
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
Way cool! So far I have Iowa by myself! I hope there are some other
builders around here.
Larry Wood
(N701LW someday)
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| Subject: | Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
For those of you that have entered your names on the maps at
http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
Thank-You I'm having a ball clicking on each flag and looking at all the
pictures! It's great seeing where your all popping up at. For those of
you who don't want to enter your name thats fine, but take the time to
click on the flags it truly is too cool to miss!!!
Scott, your plane is looking great!!
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N5SL
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
OK, I'm in - Thanks Mark! Very nice! I've got Nebraska all to myself.
Let's get some more tags on the map.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zodie Rocket"
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
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| Subject: | Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kobo1" <kobo1@cyberbeach.net>
I hope you don't mind, I put in my older CH200, daddy to the 601. If you
want to keep it separate, Delete me.
Michael Kolbasovsky
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zodie
Rocket
Subject: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
For those of you that have entered your names on the maps at
http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
Thank-You I'm having a ball clicking on each flag and looking at all the
pictures! It's great seeing where your all popping up at. For those of
you who don't want to enter your name thats fine, but take the time to
click on the flags it truly is too cool to miss!!!
Scott, your plane is looking great!!
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N5SL
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
OK, I'm in - Thanks Mark! Very nice! I've got Nebraska all to myself.
Let's get some more tags on the map.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zodie Rocket"
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
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| Subject: | Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Michael, I would NEVER do that and Welcome You!! I named the map after
the websites I look after and it had more meaning then High Wing Planes
and Low Wing Planes from Zenith. But we can consider them as such.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kobo1
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kobo1" <kobo1@cyberbeach.net>
I hope you don't mind, I put in my older CH200, daddy to the 601. If you
want to keep it separate, Delete me.
Michael Kolbasovsky
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zodie
Rocket
Subject: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
For those of you that have entered your names on the maps at
http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
Thank-You I'm having a ball clicking on each flag and looking at all the
pictures! It's great seeing where your all popping up at. For those of
you who don't want to enter your name thats fine, but take the time to
click on the flags it truly is too cool to miss!!!
Scott, your plane is looking great!!
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N5SL
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
OK, I'm in - Thanks Mark! Very nice! I've got Nebraska all to myself.
Let's get some more tags on the map.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zodie Rocket"
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Roger <rspritchard@earthlink.net>
Thank you Mark this is such a fun way to see builders progress.
Roger Nashua, NH
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
> Me too, thanks Mark. The Savannah pictured there
> was painted with Rustoleum with a low pressure
> system. Its a very good paint job for the money.
> Bob Sceppa <rjscep@yhaoo.com>
--- N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL
> <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
>
> OK, I'm in - Thanks Mark! Very nice! I've got
> Nebraska all to myself. Let's get some more tags on
> the map.
>
> Scott Laughlin
> www.cooknwithgas.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zodie Rocket"
> To: ; <701builders@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
> >
> > http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
> >
> > http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ricardo Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca>
Hey Mark! Hello everybody!
I tried entering me and Andre, for Fort McMurray, but the site keeps
telling me that
Fort McMurray is and invalid city. That's a shot below the belt, eh? :)
We'll have to shut the valve
off on the pipeline I think. lol
Anyway, kidding aside, I've tried it a few times and get the same
result.
Is there a way to validate our city?
Thanks
Ricardo
On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 05:23 AM, Zodie Rocket wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
> Guys so far 18 people in total have signed up and have placed a flag on
> the map. This is truly a great tool for us!! It is too cool. Lets find
> out where the concentration of Zenith owners are!
>
> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
> President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>
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| Subject: | Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
It's not a perfect map and is a bit lack in the Canadian towns. You may
have noticed that I seem to live in Guelph now instead of Alma. IT is
the closest place the map system would accept as my home, even though it
is 30 min away it is still close enough.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo
Nascimento
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder location map
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ricardo Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca>
Hey Mark! Hello everybody!
I tried entering me and Andre, for Fort McMurray, but the site keeps
telling me that
Fort McMurray is and invalid city. That's a shot below the belt, eh? :)
We'll have to shut the valve
off on the pipeline I think. lol
Anyway, kidding aside, I've tried it a few times and get the same
result.
Is there a way to validate our city?
Thanks
Ricardo
On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 05:23 AM, Zodie Rocket wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
<zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
> Guys so far 18 people in total have signed up and have placed a flag
on
> the map. This is truly a great tool for us!! It is too cool. Lets find
> out where the concentration of Zenith owners are!
>
> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
> President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
> Ricardo, all I did was entered my zip code and that
> took care of mine. Try that...B. Sceppa
--- Ricardo Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ricardo
> Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca>
>
> Hey Mark! Hello everybody!
>
> I tried entering me and Andre, for Fort McMurray,
> but the site keeps
> telling me that
> Fort McMurray is and invalid city. That's a shot
> below the belt, eh? :)
> We'll have to shut the valve
> off on the pipeline I think. lol
> Anyway, kidding aside, I've tried it a few times and
> get the same
> result.
> Is there a way to validate our city?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ricardo
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 05:23 AM, Zodie
> Rocket wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
> <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
> >
> > Guys so far 18 people in total have signed up and
> have placed a flag on
> > the map. This is truly a great tool for us!! It is
> too cool. Lets find
> > out where the concentration of Zenith owners are!
> >
> > Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> > Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
> > President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
> > www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
> >
> >
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| Subject: | Mark Evans A ~~ Is Born |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Hi Folks,
You all know Mark Evans....??
His DVDs are or will be available soon:
http://www.markevans.co.uk/mark-evans-online-shop-dvds.php
Guess I am plugging him...his Plane is Born series is the one that pushed me over
into the 701 cult.
Rick
N701RR
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| Subject: | Sebring Postponed |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R <n701rr@yahoo.com>
Per the website:
http://www.sport-aviation-expo.com/
U.S. Sport Aviation Expo 2005NOTICE:
Date Changed to January 12 - 15, 2006
as a result of Hurricane Wilma
Thursday, October 27 - Sunday, October 30, 2005-->At Sebring Regional Airport,
Florida
Rick
DO not archive..
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Matt & Jo" <archermj@swbell.net>
Mark, What a great idea. I seem to representing Kansas. I know there are
some others out there.
Cheers
Matt
www.zodiacxl.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
>
> http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
>
> Hi Folks the two address above are maps that we can all enter our
> location in. I have matched them to the www.ch601.org and www.ch701.com
> website and would like to invite all high wing and low wing people to
> sign up and show where you are!! This is real cool and would be a
> valuable tool to newbies.
>
>
> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
> Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
> President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>
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| Subject: | Re: Hobbs Install |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Beware! The "C" lead must be connected to the other side of the master
switch. As shown in the diagram there will be a constant drain on the
battery. The original wiring diagram from Zenair had it wrong too.
Mike
Jon Croke wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jon Croke" <jon@joncroke.com>
>
> Yes, I agree this is a reasonable method. For example on Rotax 912 engines,
> using this technique (see
> http://ch701.com/Builders%20Resources/electrical/912engine/jon_wiring.htm)
> even if you accidently leave the alternator switch on, the red alternator
> lamp will light up when the engine is shutdown. No special parts needed!
>
>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
>>
>>Hi Brian,
>>I went thru the same process of thought when I wired my Jabiru motor and
>>Hobbs. In the end I just decided to attach the Hobbs positive lead to
>>the ALT switch. I only activate it when the motor is running and always
>>shut it off before turning the Master switch off. Works fine for me and
>>eliminated oil pressure and other complicated parts.
>>Ron DeWees
>>
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>RURUNY@aol.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
>>>
>>>I have been trying for a while to figure out a way to get the hobbs
>>>running
>>>automatically at "engine start" without having to install an oil pressure
>>>switch with the pressure sensor. I would have to install a Tee but the
>>>brackets
>>>for the radiator are in the way. I just happend to be browsing the
>>>entries on
>>>the aeroelectric list and found this post from Gerry Holland. I am going
>>>to
>>>use this, I thought for some here it might be useful:
>>>
>>>Brian Unruh
>>>Long Island, NY
>>>
>>>Bob Hi!
>>>
>>>I'm using a device called Power Genie to supply start and stop Voltage to
>>>Hobbs Meter. About to start my Rotax Engine. OK?
>>>
>>>Find it at:
>>>
>>>_http://www.powergenie.central5.com/_
>>>(http://www.powergenie.central5.com/)
>>>
>>>Regards
>>>
>>>Gerry
>>>
>>>
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