Today's Message Index:
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1. 12:09 AM - Re: Builder location map (G. Harris (Pumpkin Man))
2. 04:29 AM - Builder location map (Grant Corriveau)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Builder location map (Paul Mulwitz)
4. 06:21 AM - Rivet puller (Bob Gibfried)
5. 06:47 AM - Re: Builder location map (Hal Rozema)
6. 07:26 AM - Hobbs Install (T. Graziano)
7. 07:41 AM - Re: riveter head machining (Brandon Tucker)
8. 08:02 AM - Builder map for 801 ? (Gary Craze)
9. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: riveter head machining (Dan Ribb)
10. 08:35 AM - Re: Rivet puller (jnbolding1)
11. 10:44 AM - Re: Builder location mapBuilder location mapHobbs Install (Larry Landucci)
12. 11:27 AM - Builder Map for Zenith CH801 now online (Gary Craze)
13. 01:13 PM - How about the CH640 map? (Eric Parlow)
14. 01:45 PM - Re: Rivet puller (Dan Ribb)
15. 01:50 PM - Re: [SPAM] Builder map for 801 ? (Zodie Rocket)
16. 02:04 PM - Re: Rivet puller (Dan Ribb)
17. 04:44 PM - Re: Builder location map (Ricardo Nascimento)
18. 04:44 PM - Re: Builders and owners map, was Hobbs Install (Gary Gower)
19. 05:12 PM - 701 Builders (Zodie Rocket)
20. 08:26 PM - 601 Question ()
21. 09:15 PM - Re: 601 Question (Jim and Lucy)
22. 09:28 PM - Re: 6-C-1-4 (rlendon@comcast.net)
23. 11:07 PM - Flap position indicator (Jonathan Starke)
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "G. Harris (Pumpkin Man)" <pumpkin_man@autoinsanity.com>
Zodie, you should put those links in your sig.
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| Subject: | Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder location map
>
I posted my info, but I can't view the page very well -- seems that none of
my older browsers can digest the javascript stuff.
Grant Corriveau
C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
You might try downloading a new Java engine.
Take a look at http://www.java.com/en/download/manual.jsp
do not archive
Paul
XL wings
At 04:24 AM 10/27/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Grant Corriveau <grantc@ca.inter.net>
>
> > Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Builder location map
> >
>
>I posted my info, but I can't view the page very well -- seems that none of
>my older browsers can digest the javascript stuff.
>
>Grant Corriveau
>C-GHTF / HDS / CAM100
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" <rfg842@cox.net>
Finally found the number for the Harbor Freight rivet puller. They can't
find a thing without the numbers.
167-5VGA air hydraulic riveter Current on line cost is 24.99.
Someone mentioned that there is a cheaper substitute for Proseal. Name,
source and price?
Bob, Wichita
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Hal Rozema <hartist1@cox.net>
Hi Chaps
I've found that many websites don't work properly with one or another of
the typical browsers. I normally use Netscape, but it didn't like the
701 map program so I copy/pasted the address into my Internet Explorer
and it worked fine.
Hal
ThePlaneFolks.Net
Phoenix
Super STOL CH701-JAB3300
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "T. Graziano" <tonyplane@bellsouth.net>
This is how I did it on the Jab 3000A, which came with two pick-ups on its
VDO oil pressure sender.
The pickup labled WK on the VDO sender stands for warning contact, aka
"idiot light" pickup. This contact is normally closed with no oil pressure
and opens at about 8 psi.
I installed a Radio Shcck PN 275-248 relay "velcroed" on the top of the
Hobbs (the relay is very small and rated for 10A at 24V). I wired the VDO
WK terminal to the NO coil pick up of the relay and the other relay coil
pickup wired to the master bus for its 12V pickup when the master is turned
on. This 12V wire is also spliced to feed into the COM of the relay. I then
wired the relay such that a wire from the NO on the relay fed to the + lead
of a red 12 V 1/4 in dia Radio Shack LED installed on the panel (the - lead
of the LED goes to ground). This LED lights up with the master switch ON
when there is zero or less than about 8 psi pressure. Another wire feeds
into the + of the Hobbs from the NC pickup of the relay. Another wire goes
from the - of the Hobbs to ground.
When there is Oil Press, the WK contact of the VDO opens and then the relay
switches the voltage/current to the Hobbs.
In summary. Zero or less than about 8 psi gives "idiot light" on panel.
On engine start, "idiot light" goes out (unless you have a problem) and
Hobbs starts running.\
The relay and LED are very inexpensive. If you are unsure how to wire
them, study the diagram on the relay package, wire everything up on the
bench, and play with the combination.
Tony Graziano, Buchanan, Tn
Zodiac 601XL N493TG
Just finished the fun of Phase I testing.
> > From: RURUNY@aol.com
> > Date: 2005/10/25 Tue PM 08:54:43 EDT
> > To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Zenith-List: Hobbs Install
> >
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
> >
> > I have been trying for a while to figure out a way to get the hobbs
running
>
> > automatically at "engine start" without having to install an oil
pressure
> > switch with the pressure sensor. I would have to install a Tee but the
brackets
>
> > for the radiator are in the way. I just happend to be browsing the
entries on
>
> > the aeroelectric list and found this post from Gerry Holland. I am
going to
>
> > use this, I thought for some here it might be useful:
> >
> > Brian Unruh
> > Long Island, NY
> >
> > Bob Hi!
> >
> > I'm using a device called Power Genie to supply start and stop Voltage
to
> > Hobbs Meter. About to start my Rotax Engine. OK?
> >
> > Find it at:
> >
> > _http://www.powergenie.central5.com/_
(http://www.powergenie.central5.com/)
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Gerry
> >
> >
> > ____________________________________
> >
> >
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| Subject: | RE: riveter head machining |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brandon Tucker <btucke73@yahoo.com>
Check the archives. I have posted a couple of time on
this over the last couple of years.
I agree that the price of the heads from ZAC are
nothing in the grand scheme of things, but if you are
looking to get started now...
Heat the heads up with a propane torch until they
are blue. Dimple the heads with an appropriate sized
drill bit for the rivet head size. Smooth out with a
dremel. Pull some test rivets and tweak. -Takes
about 10 minutes per head.
Here is a link to the pneumatic riveter someone
else mentioned. It is a steal. Mine set every rivet
in my plane, and is still going strong.
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
R/
Brandon Tucker
Oceanside Ca.
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| Subject: | Builder map for 801 ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
I know there a fewer of us, but how about a map for 801's?
tnx!
Gary
CH801 Houston, TX
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| Subject: | Re: RE: riveter head machining |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Ribb" <dan@danribb.com>
Link didn't work for me. Try:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=167
> ..snip..
>
> Here is a link to the pneumatic riveter someone
> else mentioned. It is a steal. Mine set every rivet
> in my plane, and is still going strong.
>
> http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?function=Search
>
> R/
>
> Brandon Tucker
> Oceanside Ca.
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet puller |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jnbolding1" <jnbolding1@mail.ev1.net>
>Someone mentioned that there is a cheaper substitute for Proseal. Name,
>source and price?
>
>Bob, Wichita
I generally don't recommend aircraft spruce but they have it.,09-3850 and 09-38510.
LOW&SLOW John
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location mapBuilder location mapHobbs Install |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry Landucci <lllanducci@tds.net>
Hi,
Is there going to be a corresponding map site for 801 owners, or should
these be included in the 701 site?
Larry Landucci -- N801LL
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| Subject: | Builder Map for Zenith CH801 now online |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Ok, the builder map for CH801 builders in now online.
Same address format as the 601 and 701 maps...
http://www.frappr.com/zenith801
Regards!
Gary
CH801 N801GC
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| Subject: | How about the CH640 map? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Eric Parlow" <ericparlow@hotmail.com>
How about us CH640 guys (& gals?)
Scott & ERic-
CH-640
Asheville, NC
----Original Message Follows----
From: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Builder Map for Zenith CH801 now online
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
Ok, the builder map for CH801 builders in now online.
Same address format as the 601 and 701 maps...
http://www.frappr.com/zenith801
Regards!
Gary
CH801 N801GC
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet puller |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Ribb" <dan@danribb.com>
I saw this mentioned in the archives for a substitute for Proseal.
It is Flamemaster, available from Van's website. Here is a link:
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1130445406-472-657&browse=misc&product=proseal
>
> Someone mentioned that there is a cheaper substitute for Proseal. Name,
> source and price?
>
> Bob, Wichita
>
Dan Ribb
Fresno, CA
601XL kit ordered and waiting!
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| Subject: | Builder map for 801 ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Builders and flyers the Zenith 701/801 STOL This is right off the
website, a few of the 801 builders are on the map, same as 640/
ch200/300 are on the 601 map. I may add an 801 map when www.ch801.com is
up and running ( hoping for April / May timeframe)
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Craze
Subject: [SPAM] Zenith-List: Builder map for 801 ?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary Craze" <garycraze@hotmail.com>
I know there a fewer of us, but how about a map for 801's?
tnx!
Gary
CH801 Houston, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Rivet puller |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dan Ribb" <dan@danribb.com>
Another source for Flamemaster, with lower prices than Van's, is Sacramento
Sky Ranch. I've done business with them and they have been excellent to
work with.
http://www.sacskyranch.com/acatalog/Sacramento_Sky_Ranch_Sealants_295.html
Look down the page a bit for Tank Sealant - clicking the Faq button on the
item(s) will show that it is Flamemaster.
>
> I saw this mentioned in the archives for a substitute for Proseal.
>
> It is Flamemaster, available from Van's website. Here is a link:
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1130445406-472-657&browse=misc&product=proseal
>
>>
>> Someone mentioned that there is a cheaper substitute for Proseal. Name,
>> source and price?
>>
>> Bob, Wichita
>>
Dan Ribb
Fresno, CA
601XL kit ordered and waiting!
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| Subject: | Re: Builder location map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Ricardo Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca>
Thanks for the suggestion Bob but we don't have that on the canadian
version of the sign up, and our postal codes aren't recognized.
What I'm going to have to do until Fort McMurray is valid is put us
down as Edmonton builders and
in the shout out say that we're actually in Fort McMurray, 300 miles or
445 kilometers north of Edmonton, about a five hour
drive until we get our 701 up in the air.
On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 05:57 PM, ROBERT SCEPPA wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ROBERT SCEPPA <rjscep@yahoo.com>
>
>> Ricardo, all I did was entered my zip code and that
>> took care of mine. Try that...B. Sceppa
>
> --- Ricardo Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Ricardo
>> Nascimento <rmsk@shaw.ca>
>>
>> Hey Mark! Hello everybody!
>>
>> I tried entering me and Andre, for Fort McMurray,
>> but the site keeps
>> telling me that
>> Fort McMurray is and invalid city. That's a shot
>> below the belt, eh? :)
>> We'll have to shut the valve
>> off on the pipeline I think. lol
>> Anyway, kidding aside, I've tried it a few times and
>> get the same
>> result.
>> Is there a way to validate our city?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Ricardo
>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2005, at 05:23 AM, Zodie
>> Rocket wrote:
>>
>>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket"
>> <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
>>>
>>> Guys so far 18 people in total have signed up and
>> have placed a flag on
>>> the map. This is truly a great tool for us!! It is
>> too cool. Lets find
>>> out where the concentration of Zenith owners are!
>>>
>>> Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
>>> Zodiac 601XL , Osprey 2 serial # 751
>>> President: Kitchener/Waterloo RAA Chapter
>>> www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>> browse
>> Subscriptions page,
>> FAQ,
>>
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>
> __________________________________
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>
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| Subject: | Re: Builders and owners map, was Hobbs Install |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
I have all Mexico for me...
In fact we own two 701,.. now, I am aware of at least two more (701) flying
and 2 kits in process, all 701. Meanwhile I am all by myself in the map
:-)
I will try to get them in the map soon.
Saludos
Gary Gower,
Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico.
Flying from Chapala
Elwood140@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Elwood140@aol.com
In a message dated 10/25/2005 10:30:46 PM Central Daylight Time,
zodierocket@hsfx.ca writes:
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
Way cool! So far I have Iowa by myself! I hope there are some other
builders around here.
Larry Wood
(N701LW someday)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Are there ANY 701 builders from Alberta on this list? Please contact me
offline.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
Got a question----- After cutting 6C-1-4, the forward top skin, according to the
drawings, it doesn't look like it will fit. The sides of the top skin are
parallel, and the forward fuselage tapers from the instrument panel bulkhead to
the firewall. The result is that I am short about 1/4 inch at the sides of the
instrument panel, and way over (side to side) at the firewall. Has anybody
else had a problem with this? I feel like I need to re-cut the skin to a taper
from front to back. Any advice will be appreciated.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair
stumbling through the fuselage
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| Subject: | Re: 601 Question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Jim and Lucy <jpollard@ciaccess.com>
At 10:54 PM 10/27/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@msn.com>
>
>Got a question----- After cutting 6C-1-4,
I cut mine to the drawings quite a while back but I remember it
did not fit. It was too short side to side.
Jim Pollard
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: rlendon@comcast.net
Paul,
I see two dimensions on that part, 465 from centerline at the firewall and 510
at the instrument panel which would give you about 6.4188 degrees of angle on
each side in the flat piece.
--
Ron Lendon
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder
Do Not Archive
-------------- Original message --------------
> --> Zenith-List message posted by:
>
> Got a question----- After cutting 6C-1-4, the forward top skin, according to
> the drawings, it doesn't look like it will fit. The sides of the top skin are
> parallel, and the forward fuselage tapers from the instrument panel bulkhead
to
> the firewall. The result is that I am short about 1/4 inch at the sides of the
> instrument panel, and way over (side to side) at the firewall. Has anybody else
> had a problem with this? I feel like I need to re-cut the skin to a taper from
> front to back. Any advice will be appreciated.
>
> Paul Rodriguez
> 601XL/Corvair
> stumbling through the fuselage
>
>
>
>
>
>
Paul,
I see two dimensions on that part, 465 from centerline at the firewall and 510
at the instrument panel which would give you about 6.4188 degrees of angle on
each side in the flat piece.
--
Ron Lendon
Corvair Zodiac XL, ScrapBuilder
Do Not Archive
-------------- Original message --------------
-- Zenith-List message posted by: <PAULROD36@MSN.COM>
Got a question----- After cutting 6C-1-4, the forward top skin, according to
the drawings, it doesn't look like it will fit. The sides of the top skin are
parallel, and the forward fuselage tapers from the instrument panel bulkhead to
the firewall. The result is that I am short about 1/4 inch at the sides of the
instrument panel, and way over (side to side) at the firewall. Has anybody else
had a problem with this? I feel like I need to re-cut the skin to a taper from
front to back. Any advice will be appreciated.
Paul Rodriguez
601XL/Corvair
stumbling through the fuselage
>
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| Subject: | Flap position indicator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jonathan Starke" <jonathan@entry.co.za>
Hi all listers,
Is there anyone out there that has connected a Ray Allen Flap indicator to a
Zodiac XL ?
I assumed it would be linear, i.e. the distance travelled by the position
detector, and the flap push rod, but alas this is not so, so I need to gear
it in some clever way.
The distance (Linear) travelled by the flap push riod is more than the
position sensor.
Anyone done this, please let me know how, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thnx
Jonathan Starke
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