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1. 06:09 AM - Builders and owners map (Zodie Rocket)
2. 06:20 AM - Re: Spring Landing gear for HD/HDS (Fred Kirkland)
3. 06:48 AM - Seeking more actual XL cruise and climb numbers (Rusty)
4. 07:29 AM - 6B16-4 width (mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net)
5. 08:43 AM - Re: 6B16-4 width (Paul Mulwitz)
6. 11:27 AM - Re: Spring Landing gear for HD/HDS (Larry McFarland)
7. 02:41 PM - RPM from Sound (Tommy Walker)
8. 03:50 PM - Re: RPM from Sound (n801bh@netzero.com)
9. 05:23 PM - Re: RPM from Sound (John Maselli)
10. 08:29 PM - Owner of G-DONT (Paul Moore)
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| Subject: | Builders and owners map |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Hi Group, were at 121 people for the Zodiac map and 73 for the STOL map.
The sign up seems to have stopped at the moment. For those of you who
haven't had a chance, then check this out it is a great utility for
seeing where we all are.
STOL Owners and Builders
http://www.frappr.com/zenith701
Zodiac Owners and Builders
http://www.frappr.com/zenith601
There are a few thousand of us building and flying the world over and I
do see a few from outside North America which is great. Lets get this
map filled up so that we know where you all are. So Far no one lives in
the Dakotas or Montana and Canada seems to be a vacant no-mans land.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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Checked by AVG Free Edition.
10/27/2005
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Landing gear for HD/HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
What is the frequency of landing gear failures among the list members? I have
had serious concerns about this landing gear setup. One concern is the horizontal
tube that goes through the gear leg and slides up and down between the aluminum
angles inside the wing. It looks like the tubing just barely sticks out
past the aluminum angle and I wonder if a hard landing would stress the box
enough that the tube could slip back enough to come out from between the angles
and allow the wheel to cant left or right. I've obtained some more tubing to
make longer parts because of this. Just wondering if I'm being unduly concerned.
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| Subject: | Seeking more actual XL cruise and climb numbers |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rusty" <13brv3c@bellsouth.net>
Greetings,
I'm pretty desperately seeking some real world performance numbers for the
XL, particularly with the more powerful engine options. I was looking at
the XL, and the Sonex, and in fact, placed an order for the Sonex about a
month ago. The problem is that I'm quite interested in using a single rotor
Mazda engine, and have come to believe that it's going to be tough to do
with the Sonex. On the other hand, the XL will do it easily, and looks
better too. I also have headroom issues with the Sonex.
Bottom line is that I need to make a final decision fairly soon, to decide
if I want to cancel the Sonex kit order or not. I've read everything I can
in the archives, but can't seem to find many people meeting the factory
numbers. While speed isn't the entire goal here, it would be disappointing
to build a plane that doesn't perform as expected.
Any real world speed or climb numbers will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Rusty
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net" <mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net>
I went to install my upper fuselage longeron doubler (6B16-4). Failed to notice
plans showing 35mm width on the wide side. Zenair's was 55mm on the wide side
and the photo assembly guide fails to mention trimming to 35mm width first -
my scrap pile grows!
Mike and Laurie in AZ, N445ML, 601XL, WW conversion
I went to install my upper fuselage longeron doubler (6B16-4). Failed to notice
plans showing 35mm width on the wide side. Zenair's was 55mm on the wide side
and the photo assembly guide fails to mention trimming to 35mm width first -
my scrap pile grows!
Mike and Laurie in AZ, N445ML, 601XL, WW conversion
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| Subject: | Re: 6B16-4 width |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Sometimes it seems like we would be better off without the photo
assembly guide. It certainly should not be depended on to be
accurate regarding actual part design.
It is absolutely necessary to rely on the actual drawings and only
use the photo assembly guide as a general guide.
Paul
XL Wings
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At 07:26 AM 10/29/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net"
><mikeandlaurie3@netzero.net>
>
>I went to install my upper fuselage longeron doubler (6B16-4).
>Failed to notice plans showing 35mm width on the wide side. Zenair's
>was 55mm on the wide side and the photo assembly guide fails to
>mention trimming to 35mm width first - my scrap pile grows!
>Mike and Laurie in AZ, N445ML, 601XL, WW conversion
>
>
>I went to install my upper fuselage longeron doubler (6B16-4).
>Failed to notice plans showing 35mm width on the wide side. Zenair's
>was 55mm on the wide side and the photo assembly guide fails to
>mention trimming to 35mm width first - my scrap pile grows!
>
>
>Mike and Laurie in AZ, N445ML, 601XL, WW conversion
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Spring Landing gear for HD/HDS |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Fred,
I wondered initially about the same thing, but havn't had that problem
or even read of it on the Matronics archives.
If the tubes were half an inch longer, so long as it didn't interfere
with disassembly and replacement of bungees several
years out, I'd not worry about it. The worst gear failure experienced
is the plate that is 1/8-inch thick and welded to the
end of the strut tube. It should be 3/16-inch 4130 and carefully welded
to preclude fatigue failure. There've been enough
of these to warrant the change to a heavier plate.
Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com
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Fred Kirkland wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Fred Kirkland" <fdk0154.tx@cox.net>
>
>What is the frequency of landing gear failures among the list members? I have
had serious concerns about this landing gear setup. One concern is the horizontal
tube that goes through the gear leg and slides up and down between the aluminum
angles inside the wing. It looks like the tubing just barely sticks out
past the aluminum angle and I wonder if a hard landing would stress the box
enough that the tube could slip back enough to come out from between the angles
and allow the wheel to cant left or right. I've obtained some more tubing
to make longer parts because of this. Just wondering if I'm being unduly concerned.
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
I have a little program that will calculate engine RPM from sound. You
could use it to check your tach. Download to your laptop, take it to the
airport and crank up your engine and compare the rpm.... I got it several
years ago from a programmer when I was on the AOPA web board.
If you have a need for this, send me an email and I will send it to you.
Also,
The other day I needed a piece of .125 6061-T6 to re-manufacture a part
(yes, I mangled the original). I had to order a 2x2 sheet in order to get a
six square inch piece. I got to thinking, what if someone else needed a
small piece? If you need a small quantity, let me know and I will cut you
off a corner and send it to you for the cost of postage.
Tommy Walker in Alabama
Pay it forward
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| Subject: | Re: RPM from Sound |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
I have a little program that will calculate engine RPM from sound. You
could use it to check your tach. Download to your laptop, take it to the
airport and crank up your engine and compare the rpm.... I got it several
years ago from a programmer when I was on the AOPA web board.
If you have a need for this, send me an email and I will send it to you.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Interesting !!! I wonder if it understands 180 degree cranks and headers ?????
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Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
I have a little program that will calculate engine RPM from sound. You
could use it to check your tach. Download to your laptop, take it to the
airport and crank up your engine and compare the rpm.... I got it several
years ago from a programmer when I was on the AOPA web board.
If you have a need for this, send me an email and I will send it to you.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Interesting !!! I wonder if it understands 180 degree cranks and headers ?????
do not archive
BenHaas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: John Maselli <jfmasell@optonline.net>
Hey Ben I'd like that program
John Maselli
A Computer Consulting
516-524-0420
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Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RPM from Sound
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com"
--> <n801bh@netzero.com>
I have a little program that will calculate engine RPM from sound. You
could use it to check your tach. Download to your laptop, take it to
the
airport and crank up your engine and compare the rpm.... I got it
several
years ago from a programmer when I was on the AOPA web board.
If you have a need for this, send me an email and I will send it to you.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/////////////
Interesting !!! I wonder if it understands 180 degree cranks and headers
?????
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
I have a little program that will calculate engine RPM from sound. You
could use it to check your tach. Download to your laptop, take it to the
airport and crank up your engine and compare the rpm.... I got it
several years ago from a programmer when I was on the AOPA web board.
If you have a need for this, send me an email and I will send it to you.
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
/////////////
Interesting !!! I wonder if it understands 180 degree cranks and headers
?????
do not archive
BenHaas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
If Norman Butcher is out there, please email me offline. I've been wanting
to talk to you about the very nice wheel pants you installed on your XL.
Paul
XL-0200
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