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1. 05:57 AM - 601 Crash (William J. Naumuk)
2. 06:27 AM - Re: CH 601 HDS Tire Pressures (JAPhillipsGA@AOL.COM)
3. 06:29 AM - Re: 601 Crash (Gary A. Boothe)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: 601 Crash (Zodie Rocket)
5. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: 601XL Brake Problems (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
6. 07:18 AM - Re: Free at last! (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
7. 07:21 AM - Re: 601 Crash (Carlos Sa)
8. 07:31 AM - Re: Re: Parachutes kill. (Steve Hulland)
9. 08:19 AM - Crash, Part II (William J. Naumuk)
10. 09:47 AM - Re: 601 Crash (Dave)
11. 11:17 AM - Re: Re: Parachutes kill. (Ron Crook)
12. 11:53 AM - Jeff Glasserow: Eulogy (Phil Maxson)
13. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: Parachutes kill. (William Jeffries)
14. 05:29 PM - Re: 601 Crash (n801bh@netzero.com)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
All-
A brief article in today's paper reports a mid-air between a CH601 (No other
model information) and a C-172 in New Jersey. The 601 pilot was killed, the
C-172 pilot made a successful emergency landing. Pilot of the 601 is reported
as Jeffrey L. Glasserow. Anyone out there have more than 2 paragraph's worth of
information?
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: CH 601 HDS Tire Pressures |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Jeff, When we first flew my XL in Junes I had all the tires (5.00s) pumped to
28 pounds. 26 flights later I check the pressure and it's down to only 4
pounds in the mains and 11 pounds in the front. It did tend to waddle when I
taxied. Pumped in 22 pounds and it lands and feels like a brick, but it does not
waddle, so as our good friends Roger would say 'pumped it 'til it feels good
to you' I guess. FWIW, Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
A quick look at the Site shows that Jeff bought a completed 601HDS early in
the year. He had some maintenance done and started flying it a few months
ago. He appeared to be a contributor to the List as he is linked to 80
e-mails.
God Bless Him,
Gary
----- Original Message -----
From: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
Subject: Zenith-List: 601 Crash
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk"
> <billn@velocity.net>
>
> All-
> A brief article in today's paper reports a mid-air between a CH601 (No
> other model information) and a C-172 in New Jersey. The 601 pilot was
> killed, the C-172 pilot made a successful emergency landing. Pilot of the
> 601 is reported as Jeffrey L. Glasserow. Anyone out there have more than 2
> paragraph's worth of information?
> Bill
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Two Small Planes Brush in Midair, and One Takes a Deadly Plunge
Two small aircraft clipped each other in midair yesterday in the sunny,
nearly windless skies over western HYPERLINK
"http://topics.nytimes.com/top/news/national/usstatesterritoriesandposse
ssions/newjersey/index.html?inline=nyt-geo"New Jersey, causing one plane
to drop nose first into a field of trees, killing the pilot, the state
police said.
The other pilot landed safely, and there were no other reported
casualties.
The police identified the dead pilot as Jeffrey L. Glasserow, 55, of
Pittstown, N.J.
The other pilot is James P. Walter, 56, of Kintersville, Pa..
Sgt. Stephen Jones said a telephone call to 911 at 11:40 a.m. reported
that an aircraft was in trouble near the township of Pohatcong, near
Phillipsburg, more than 50 miles northwest of Trenton.
A police helicopter located the crash site, on a 90-acre farm near
Interstate 78 and about three miles from the Delaware River. .
"We have not disturbed the crash site," Sergeant Jones said, because the
police were awaiting investigators from the state's Division of
Aeronautics.
The crashed plane was a crumpled, unrecognizable piece of white metal.
The pilot did not appear to have attempted a landing and simply dropped
through the treetops, Sergeant Jones said.
Ron Harbist, an investigator at the scene from the Aeronautics Division,
said later that the pilot was "probably out of control when he hit; he
came in at a steep angle."
He said the plane, a Zodiac 601 built from a kit, is registered with the
Federal Aviation Administration and is listed as "experimental."
Arlene Murray, a spokeswoman for the Eastern Region office of the
F.A.A., said the two planes were flying under "visual flight rules" and
were not communicating with air traffic controllers.
"They clipped each other somehow, is what I understand," she said.
It was not clear whether they were flying past each other or parallel in
the same direction.
Ms. Murray said the crashed plane was owned by All-Media Associates Inc.
of Port Washington, on Long Island. A telephone number could not be
found for the company.
The intact plane, a Cessna 172 single engine, was minimally damaged, Ms.
Murray said, and is owned by Sportaviation Inc. of Pipersville, Pa.
Ashar Husain, the owner of Sport Aviation, a flight school in Erwinna,
Pa., in Bucks County, where the plane had taken off, said the surviving
pilot was an experienced flier and regular customer who rented planes.
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-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William J.
Naumuk
Subject: Zenith-List: 601 Crash
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk"
<billn@velocity.net>
All-
A brief article in today's paper reports a mid-air between a CH601
(No other model information) and a C-172 in New Jersey. The 601 pilot
was killed, the C-172 pilot made a successful emergency landing. Pilot
of the 601 is reported as Jeffrey L. Glasserow. Anyone out there have
more than 2 paragraph's worth of information?
Bill
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11/3/2005
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| Subject: | Re: RE: 601XL Brake Problems |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Lance, good to hear from you. I have continued the good brake fight, but must
report a great lack of success. As Ronnie Grove mentioned I checked the plug
opening in the top of each master cycilender and they were both open. I
checked the travel and the shaft is traveling north as far as it can uponn release
so the problem does not seem to be there. I took the brakes apart this
weekend, rechecked eveything and I used an adhesive called Super Tact to the back
of
the inter pad and the caliper cycilder face to see if that would illiminate
the rattle, but it does'nt. The only thing that helps is my new Lightspeed 20
XLs headset with ANR, turn it on and those dammed old brake noises go away,
Ha. Another way to fix a problem, Lance if you can figure out what's wrong
please let me know, Best regards, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Free at last! |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Bill, good for you fellow !!! We have all suffered a bout of "throw this
dammed thing in the trash" flu, but let me tell you another story. Yesterday
morning here in Georgia opened with warm blue sky and light breezes. After a
wonderful breakfast with my lovely trophy wife I drove to the airport. I parked
the
car and opened the hanger doors and inside I was greeted by my pretty baby. I
swear I heard her say "gas be up big boy and I'll give you another ride of a
life time" Well, I'm not too bright, but as a red blooded American I know sex
and quick as a bunny the fuel truck was there and gone. I pulled her out into
the sun light and she just sparkled with anticipation. After the normal
foreplay with the dipstick and fluids I opened the hatch and climbed on board,
when the engine caught it was like a promise that this ride would really be
pleasure. I taxied onto the strip and pushed firmly on the throttle and zip she
rushed forward in an instant and I had to really concentrate to keep everything
aligned straight down the middle. At 70 I tugged in the stick between my legs
and was rewarded by her literally leaping into the air. As she climbed at 1100
ft per minute @ 100 mph I knew that she had not lied to me and once we
reached the pinnacle of the climb at 5000 feet and leveled off, the next 2.4 hour
was more continued pleasure and the satisfaction I had dreamed of and worked for
all those years. Yes Bill, you are making good progress and soon, sooner than
you think, she will be completed, fast, smooth, beautiful, sexy and
completely yours. Yes, yours to have your way with. Enjoy the ride, Best regards,
Bill
of Georgia N505WP, 601XL-3300w/DC (30 hours)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
I found a posting by Jeffrey hiself.
He bought the HDS in December '05.
http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=323
This is sad, but at least the Cessna survived.
do not archive
Carlos
--- "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
>
> All-
> A brief article in today's paper reports a mid-air between a CH601 (No other
model
> information) and a C-172 in New Jersey. The 601 pilot was killed, the C-172 pilot
made a
> successful emergency landing. Pilot of the 601 is reported as Jeffrey L. Glasserow.
Anyone out
> there have more than 2 paragraph's worth of information?
> Bill
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Parachutes kill. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
All interesting, but I can say this. A week ago Thursday I had a fairly big
stroke while teaching a class. If I had been flying, about all the time I
would have had to react is to pull a BRS cord and let it deploy. If I had
been driving, all I could have done is hold the wheel tight, hit brakes
fairly hard and hoped for a good stop. In either case I may have survived.
In either case I may not have. But the BRS would have been the only way to
survive if I had been flying. For me the subject is now mute - if I fly
again, it will be with another and it will be with a BRS if in my 701.
Semper Fi,
Steve Hulland
CH701
Amado, AZ
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
All-
According to the posting Jeff has on the Zenith Builder's Pages, I wonder if
the rebuilding mentioned in Zodie Rocket's report was successful. An HDS with
an O-235 hanging off the nose definitely shouldn't fly nose up.
Bill
do not archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave" <dnimigon@telusplanet.net>
This is a very day for all of us when we here such news. I also believe it
is a learning tool for us to be better fliers and to keep a keen eye out for
the unexpected. We never know when something will catch us off guard when
we're out enjoying the gift of flying. I receive Transport Canada's accident
reports regularly, not because I'm after gory news but to learn from others
what happens out there in the sky. You can learn allot from peoples mistakes
and I read everyone of these reports and I find it very helpful in what we
can look for in maintenance issues and weather issues that we sometimes
forget about. My deepest sympathy goes out to the family of Mr. Glasserow
and we all should be that extra careful when we're out enjoying the thing we
love the most. God be with him.
David Nimigon
701
Alberta
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carlos Sa" <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601 Crash
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
>
> I found a posting by Jeffrey hiself.
> He bought the HDS in December '05.
> http://wingsforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=323
>
> This is sad, but at least the Cessna survived.
>
> do not archive
>
> Carlos
>
> --- "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net> wrote:
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk"
>> <billn@velocity.net>
>>
>> All-
>> A brief article in today's paper reports a mid-air between a CH601
>> (No other model
>> information) and a C-172 in New Jersey. The 601 pilot was killed, the
>> C-172 pilot made a
>> successful emergency landing. Pilot of the 601 is reported as Jeffrey L.
>> Glasserow. Anyone out
>> there have more than 2 paragraph's worth of information?
>> Bill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Parachutes kill. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Crook" <ronflys701@hotmail.com>
If I had won the lottery I would of been a rich man............Hind sight is
a great thing .......and if u don t fly again will u install the chute for
the next guy who buys It???? NOT LIKLEY it still is personal
choise.........Very sorry to hear about your stroke hope u get well and fly
again...Sincerly
>From: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: RE: Parachutes kill.
>Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:30:42 -0700
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
>
>All interesting, but I can say this. A week ago Thursday I had a fairly big
>stroke while teaching a class. If I had been flying, about all the time I
>would have had to react is to pull a BRS cord and let it deploy. If I had
>been driving, all I could have done is hold the wheel tight, hit brakes
>fairly hard and hoped for a good stop. In either case I may have survived.
>In either case I may not have. But the BRS would have been the only way to
>survive if I had been flying. For me the subject is now mute - if I fly
>again, it will be with another and it will be with a BRS if in my 701.
>Semper Fi,
>Steve Hulland
>CH701
>Amado, AZ
> DO NOT ARCHIVE
>
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| Subject: | Jeff Glasserow: Eulogy |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Phil Maxson" <pmaxpmax@hotmail.com>
I was stunned this morning when I read the newspaper and read of my friend's
death. Even as I write this now, it doesn't seem possible. His last
posting to this list was last week. I am deeply saddened by his loss.
Jeff and I met on this list and became friends about a year ago, and we both
decided to join EAA chapter 643 in the Pittstown area, his hometown (I
wasn't happy with my original EAA chapter). He and I flew a few times
together and shared a few meals over the past year, and he has visited my
project many times. Jeff was an experienced pilot who had let his medical
lapse and was reintroduced to flying as a Sport Pilot, but his piloting
skills were good.
He purchased his already flying HDS from another builder and then
subsequently had the plane thoroughly gone over by a local A&P. He had
several small things taken care of, such as rusty landing gear, and had the
seat pan lowered. After the plane came out of the shop, Jeff flew it almost
every week, sometimes several times a week. He was convinced that the plane
flew nose high and then he lowered the ailerons by a fraction of a turn or
two, and that seemed to solve his problem. I must say, when I flew with
him, I never saw the problem. He even used my tail template to check the
angle of incidence of the stabilizer, and found no problem. In any case, I
had looked over his plane many times, and I can say, that was a mechanically
sound machine. No problems. The 235 engine would start on 2 or 3 blades of
his three-blade prop and flew like a classic HDS. I would doubt seriously
if there was a mechanical problem with the plane.
Jeff's daughter (who I never met) was planning to take lessons in the plane,
and she flew with him more frequently than I did. I'm glad she wasn't
involved in the accident. (If Jeff's daughter ever reads this: Your dad was
a good man and he loved you. He was very proud of you.)
I guess this should just serve as a reminder for us to look out the window
more and scan all around the plane as we look. Until we hear from the NTSB,
this is about all I think we can learn.
Goodbye Jeff. I'll miss you.
Phil Maxson
601XL/Corvair
Northwest New Jersey
Attending "Corvair College" next week.
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Parachutes kill. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: William Jeffries <vair601@yahoo.com>
Steve,
Sorry to here of your health condition, sounds like your on the road to recovery
already.
Don't give up Marine, our prayers are with you.
Semper Fi, God be with you, Bill Jeffries
Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland
All interesting, but I can say this. A week ago Thursday I had a fairly big
stroke while teaching a class. If I had been flying, about all the time I
would have had to react is to pull a BRS cord and let it deploy. If I had
been driving, all I could have done is hold the wheel tight, hit brakes
fairly hard and hoped for a good stop. In either case I may have survived.
In either case I may not have. But the BRS would have been the only way to
survive if I had been flying. For me the subject is now mute - if I fly
again, it will be with another and it will be with a BRS if in my 701.
Semper Fi,
Steve Hulland
CH701
Amado, AZ
DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
How sad .....................................
god speed to the pilot.
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
How sad .....................................
god speed to the pilot.
do not archive
BenHaas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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