---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 11/19/05: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:03 AM - 701 Builders Locator Map (Rick R) 2. 04:58 AM - Saying good-bye (Lowell Metz) 3. 07:00 AM - Re: 701 Builders Locator Map (Larry McFarland) 4. 07:14 AM - Good deal on rivets (Bob Gibfried) 5. 07:53 AM - Re: 701 Builders Locator Map (Zodie Rocket) 6. 08:24 AM - Re: Good deal on rivets (William J. Naumuk) 7. 08:43 AM - Re: 701 Builders Locator Map (Aaron) 8. 10:50 AM - Re: comm radio's (Tebenkof@aol.com) 9. 11:44 AM - Re: Good deal on rivets () 10. 01:08 PM - Re: 701 Builders Locator Map (lynn dingfelder) 11. 01:35 PM - Re: Good deal on rivets (Jean-Paul Roy) 12. 02:11 PM - Re: Good deal on rivets (jnbolding1) 13. 04:47 PM - Re: Zenith leather seats for 601XL (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 14. 04:52 PM - Re: Good deal on rivets (William J. Naumuk) 15. 04:59 PM - Re: Zenith leather seats for 601XL (Craig Payne) 16. 05:12 PM - Re: Zenith leather seats for 601XL (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 17. 08:06 PM - 701 Aux Fuel Tank issue/question (doug kandle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:03:00 AM PST US From: Rick R Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Builders Locator Map --> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R Folks..the map shows us at 98 in strength. There has to be two more builders/flyers that haven't joined the map yet to get us to the century mark??? http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 DO NOT ARCHIVE Rick Orlando, FL. USA http://www.n701rr.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:13 AM PST US From: "Lowell Metz" Subject: Zenith-List: Saying good-bye --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Lowell Metz" I now have about 110 hours on my 701 with the 912UL/S and it is time to put it up for sale and start building again. Yup, I'm one of those that likes to build more than fly although the 701 is a real hoot. So if there is someone out there that would rater fly than build, we just might be able to compliment one another. I live in south west Florida. I'm advertising the plane for just about what I have in parts and materials so all 1,200 hours of labor is free. Email me for all of the particulars if you want to get into the air quickly. lowellmetz@earthlink.net Lowell Metz 941-493-9460 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:00:39 AM PST US From: Larry McFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Builders Locator Map --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland You have Carl Ritter in Illinois City (flying 701 Subaru) and Larry Dorgan in Davenport IA (new builder), but I don't see them in email postings as they're not real "computer-active". Larry McFarland do not archive Rick R wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R > >Folks..the map shows us at 98 in strength. There has to be two more builders/flyers that haven't joined the map yet to get us to the century mark??? > > http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >Rick >Orlando, FL. USA >http://www.n701rr.com > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:14:56 AM PST US From: "Bob Gibfried" Subject: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" Thought I'd pass on a good source for rivets. Midwest Fastener Supply., Mulvane, Kansas. Furnishes fasteners to most of the local, Wichita aircraft manufacturers. I've found that their rivets are from 2 to 4 cents cheaper than Wicks or Aircraft Spruce per rivet. Five dollar minimum order and fast service. Email Ana at www.midwestfastener.com for a quote. Bob, Wichita ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:53:16 AM PST US From: "Zodie Rocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 701 Builders Locator Map --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" Larry , and all others. I have just visited the http://www.frappr.com/zenith601 we seemed to have stalled at the 164 members mark. I know there are a lot more builders and flying 601's out there then the 164. How can we appeal to them to drop a pin on the map? I would like to see where you all are! Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry McFarland Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Builders Locator Map --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland You have Carl Ritter in Illinois City (flying 701 Subaru) and Larry Dorgan in Davenport IA (new builder), but I don't see them in email postings as they're not real "computer-active". Larry McFarland do not archive Rick R wrote: >--> Zenith-List message posted by: Rick R > >Folks..the map shows us at 98 in strength. There has to be two more builders/flyers that haven't joined the map yet to get us to the century mark??? > > http://www.frappr.com/zenith701 > > DO NOT ARCHIVE > > >Rick >Orlando, FL. USA >http://www.n701rr.com > > > > -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. 11/18/2005 -- Checked by AVG Free Edition. 11/18/2005 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:19 AM PST US From: "William J. Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" This is the kind of posting I like to see! Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Gibfried" Subject: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" > > Thought I'd pass on a good source for rivets. Midwest Fastener Supply., > Mulvane, Kansas. Furnishes fasteners to most of the local, Wichita > aircraft manufacturers. I've found that their rivets are from 2 to 4 cents > cheaper than Wicks or Aircraft Spruce per rivet. Five dollar minimum order > and fast service. Email Ana at www.midwestfastener.com for a quote. > > Bob, Wichita > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:43:07 AM PST US From: "Aaron" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Builders Locator Map --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Aaron" Just put my pin on Iron Mountain MI do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:50:58 AM PST US From: Tebenkof@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: comm radio's --> Zenith-List message posted by: Tebenkof@aol.com My choice was the X-com 760 for size, weight, two channel monitoring and voice activated intercom (some of the included intercoms have hot mike which might drive me nuttier than I am. ). But I have not used it yet, so cannot say if it really works. It is a marvelously tiny piece of technology though. Jim Greenough ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:06 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: Another good source I've discovered is B&B Aircraft Supply, in Gardner KS. They sell for $4.95 per hundred. Paul Rodriguez 601XL/Corvair Still on the fuselage ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Gibfried To: zenith-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:14 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" > Thought I'd pass on a good source for rivets. Midwest Fastener Supply., Mulvane, Kansas. Furnishes fasteners to most of the local, Wichita aircraft manufacturers. I've found that their rivets are from 2 to 4 cents cheaper than Wicks or Aircraft Spruce per rivet. Five dollar minimum order and fast service. Email Ana at www.midwestfastener.com for a quote. Bob, Wichita ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:37 PM PST US From: "lynn dingfelder" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 701 Builders Locator Map --> Zenith-List message posted by: "lynn dingfelder" Mark, I would be happy to sign up, but I thought it would be proper to wait 'till my kit arrives. (Feb) For now, I am building my Corvair. Lynn Corry, PA ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 01:35:12 PM PST US From: "Jean-Paul Roy" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy" Paul, do they have a web site? Searched with no results. Jean-Paul DO NOT ARCHIVE ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > Another good source I've discovered is B&B Aircraft Supply, in Gardner KS. They sell for $4.95 per hundred. > > Paul Rodriguez > 601XL/Corvair > Still on the fuselage > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Gibfried > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:14 AM > Subject: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" > > > Thought I'd pass on a good source for rivets. Midwest Fastener Supply., > Mulvane, Kansas. Furnishes fasteners to most of the local, Wichita > aircraft manufacturers. I've found that their rivets are from 2 to 4 cents > cheaper than Wicks or Aircraft Spruce per rivet. Five dollar minimum order > and fast service. Email Ana at www.midwestfastener.com for a quote. > > Bob, Wichita > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 02:11:19 PM PST US From: "jnbolding1" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jnbolding1" No web site but # is 913-884-5930, Dan is the man. LOW&SLOW John >Paul, do they have a web site? Searched with no results. > >Jean-Paul >DO NOT > >> --> Zenith-List message posted by: >> >> Another good source I've discovered is B&B Aircraft Supply, in Gardner KS. >They sell for $4.95 per hundred. ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:47:43 PM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith leather seats for 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Craig, I have the duel controls in my XL, but I made my own seats. Yes, they need a bit of a cut out between your knees for clearance. The thicker the seat cushion the wider the cut. I have flown XLs, HD and HDS all with the center yoke and my XL with the duels and the feel of the duels and the utility of flying with either hand has got the yoke beat hands down, FWIW, best regards, Bill N505WP 601XL-3300w/dc ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:28 PM PST US From: "William J. Naumuk" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets --> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" Paul- The most expensive A4 from ACS is 4.50/hundred, and long A5s are the same price. Does B+B pay shipping, or am I missing something? Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > Another good source I've discovered is B&B Aircraft Supply, in Gardner KS. They sell for $4.95 per hundred. > > Paul Rodriguez > 601XL/Corvair > Still on the fuselage > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Gibfried > To: zenith-list@matronics.com > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 9:14 AM > Subject: Zenith-List: Good deal on rivets > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Gibfried" > > > Thought I'd pass on a good source for rivets. Midwest Fastener Supply., > Mulvane, Kansas. Furnishes fasteners to most of the local, Wichita > aircraft manufacturers. I've found that their rivets are from 2 to 4 cents > cheaper than Wicks or Aircraft Spruce per rivet. Five dollar minimum order > and fast service. Email Ana at www.midwestfastener.com for a quote. > > Bob, Wichita > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:59:33 PM PST US From: "Craig Payne" Received-SPF: none (mgr1.xmission.com: 166.70.39.121 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of craigandjean.com) client-ip=166.70.39.121; envelope-from=craig@craigandjean.com; helo=TheTCCraig; Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Zenith leather seats for 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" Thanks! I'm already sold on dual sticks and have the option kit from Zenith. I need to retrofit it into the 80% done single-stick XL that I bought. I'm just trying to figure out what to do about seats without having to learn how to sew. -- Craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith leather seats for 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Craig, I have the duel controls in my XL, but I made my own seats. Yes, they need a bit of a cut out between your knees for clearance. The thicker the seat cushion the wider the cut. I have flown XLs, HD and HDS all with the center yoke and my XL with the duels and the feel of the duels and the utility of flying with either hand has got the yoke beat hands down, FWIW, best regards, Bill N505WP 601XL-3300w/dc ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 05:12:34 PM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zenith leather seats for 601XL --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Craig, I formed my seats from fiberglass cloth on wax paper, bought cushions from Spruce and used spray auto weather stip adhesive to attach, then trimed edges. Then I took to local upholstery shop, selected fabric and had them cover. All told, real nice seats for about $250. Bought extra material for making side panels and trim. Still have that to do. On installing the duels you will have to make a special tool to attach brackets to the center section, I will be glad to send you a photo of the one I made, Best regards, Bill ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:06:45 PM PST US From: doug kandle Subject: Zenith-List: 701 Aux Fuel Tank issue/question --> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle I am installing the outboard, auxiliary, fuel tanks in my wings. The front jury strut bracket (7V10-4SP) has a rivet that lies beneath the outboard fuel tank. The rivet in question is 20 mm outboard of rib #2 centerline and 35mm rear of the wing spar (plans page 7-V-10). This puts it under the fuel tank. I didn't rivet the bracket to the wing when I did the other rivets in the wing bottom because I didn't want to take the chance of bending that bracket when I had to turn the wing over. It appears that I lucked out. Has anyone else noticed that if you put this rivet in the bracket from the outside, then there is a good chance that the rivet will eventually put a hole in your fuel tank? At least to me this is what it looks like will happen. The tank is only lifted above the bottom skin by the thickness of the cork strip and the back side of the rivet will certainly contact the tank. Did I assemble something wrong? Am I imagining things? Or is this a detail that perhaps should be noted in the instructions? I'm going to set that rivet with the round head under the tank and the stem on the outside of the wing. Doug Kandle CH701 Boise ID Rudder & Horiz. Stab. done Working on Wings From complete kit