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1. 03:55 AM - Pre-heater for Ch601 (rical26)
2. 06:08 AM - engine heater (alex trent)
3. 06:38 AM - Re: Pre-Heating a 601 (Jim Pellien)
4. 06:49 AM - Re: Pre-Heating a 601 (Jim Pellien)
5. 07:16 AM - Re: First SLSA 601XL Demonstrated Performance (Jeff Davidson)
6. 09:38 AM - The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Matt Dralle)
7. 10:48 AM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Tony & Peggy Pierce)
8. 10:54 AM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Mike Fothergill)
9. 12:40 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Trevor Page)
10. 02:48 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Mike Sinclair)
11. 03:01 PM - XL Nose Gear Doubler (Paul Moore)
12. 03:14 PM - Re: XL Nose Gear Doubler (george may)
13. 03:17 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Bill Denton)
14. 04:16 PM - Re: Pre-heater for Ch601 (Jim Pellien)
15. 05:19 PM - Re: The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! (Steve Hulland)
16. 05:38 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Mike Sinclair)
17. 05:45 PM - Re: XL Nose Gear Doubler (wscribb)
18. 06:12 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (Mike Sinclair)
19. 06:30 PM - Re: XL Nose Gear Doubler (Al Young)
20. 06:36 PM - Re: XL Nose Gear Doubler (Bill Steer)
21. 08:57 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (NYTerminat@aol.com)
22. 09:00 PM - Re: 912S engine installation in 701 (NYTerminat@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Pre-heater for Ch601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: rical26 <rical26@rogers.com>
Hi All, I bought a propane tent heater with a 12 volts fan that produce
up to 10 000 BTU with a single small (green) bottle. It come with a
padded bag and weight about 10 Lbs. I put the fan in at the bottom
cowling and the hot air exit at the top cowling (at the oil check door
or front cowling) and within 10 minutes my engine is warm. 2 things; it
is a open flame near fuel system and you have to protect it somehow when
it's windy because the wind will put the flame out.
Check at www.zodi.com
regards
Richard
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: alex trent <atrent7@cogeco.ca>
Back in the dim distant past I used to rent a J3 from a local
operator. His pre heat was to stick a hose over the exhaust of the
tractor and stuff the other end in the air intake. This was in the
winter and it sometimes gets quite chilly up here in the frozen north.
Seemed to work and this was a "no electrics cub" as in hand swing that
prop. That was fine for the engine, the driver had to dress for the
occasion since there was no heat in the cabin and a J3 cabin can get
lots of fresh air wafting though. Funny part about this particular a/c
was that when it started you didn't dare touch the throttle until it had
warmed up a bit. If you did it would quit and you would have a great
deal of difficulty getting it started again. I read somewhere that the
reason was that the moisture in the mixture would freeze and foul the
plugs. No idea if this is fact or not
alex t
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| Subject: | Pre-Heating a 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Larry,
Thanks for the thoughts about an electic pre-heater. They engendered an
idea that I'm going to try out tomorrow. I'll let you know how it goes.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry McFarland
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Pre-Heating a 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Jim,
If you've got access to electricity, it'd be a minor matter to make a
weatherproof shell for keeping wet and wind out of the
heater that would reach up a little further under the cowl. It would
need a set of wheels 2-foot ground extensions for stability
and a weather proof cord all to keep wetness out but it could be done.
Nice thing about this type of heater is that if it gets
kicked over it shuts off too. If the winds get nasty, you could even
stake it down. Then you'd have to plug up your cowl but
for one screened opening on the bottom to keep the field mice out of it.
Don't give up on it.
I think you could do it, if you have a plug-in somewhere close by.
Larry
Jim Pellien wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
>Larry,
>
>My aircraft is not hangered. Looks like a good pre-heat setup for aircraft
>that are hangered. However, I don't think I could leave a heater like that
>operating outside in snow and rain???
>
>Thanks for the suggestion.
>
>Jim
>
>Jim Pellien
>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>www.MASPL.com
>703-313-4818
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
McFarland
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Pre-Heating a 601
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
>Jim,
>I use a "milk house heater" to keep the engine comfortably warm. It
>doesn't generate too much
>heat and shuts itself off when temps get above freezing. See link
>http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/heatertocowl.gif
>
>Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>Jim Pellien wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>>
>>Question: What have you found to be the best way to pre-heat your 601 in
>>winter?
>>
>>
>>Jim Pellien
>>
>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>>
>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>>
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| Subject: | Pre-Heating a 601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Thanks,
I'll look into this system as well.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Pre-Heating a 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy" <rpf@wi.rr.com>
Jim,
I used a block heater system, from www.reiffpreheat.com that you epoxy to
the bottom of the block and a cylinder band heater that I put around the oil
tank. Put a blanket, or something, over the cowling to cover up the air
inlets and the system works very well.
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Pre-Heating a 601
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Larry,
>
> My aircraft is not hangered. Looks like a good pre-heat setup for
> aircraft
> that are hangered. However, I don't think I could leave a heater like
> that
> operating outside in snow and rain???
>
> Thanks for the suggestion.
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Pellien
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
> www.MASPL.com
> 703-313-4818
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Larry
> McFarland
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Pre-Heating a 601
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Jim,
> I use a "milk house heater" to keep the engine comfortably warm. It
> doesn't generate too much
> heat and shuts itself off when temps get above freezing. See link
> http://www.macsmachine.com/images/completion/full/heatertocowl.gif
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
> Jim Pellien wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>>
>>Question: What have you found to be the best way to pre-heat your 601 in
>>winter?
>>
>>
>>Jim Pellien
>>
>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>>
>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
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| Subject: | First SLSA 601XL Demonstrated Performance |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Davidson" <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
Thanks Jim. I'll be in touch with you or Nathan right after the holidays.
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: First SLSA 601XL Demonstrated Performance
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Jeff,
Yes, the aircraft is available for rent. It is our policy for all pilots to
take a 5 hour checkout with our instructor before flying it solo. Prices
are on my website for the checkout and for solo rental blocks of 5, 10 and
20 hours.
www.maspl.com
Take a look. When you are ready to fly, pease call y flight instructor,
Nathan Mayer, at 804-212-7876
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Davidson
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: First SLSA 601XL Demonstrated Performance
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Davidson"
<jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
Jim,
Is your 601 XL available for homebuilders to get a few hours time in a
601? I'm close enough to finishing that I'd like to start getting some time
in a 601. I'm a Private Pilot with Instrument rating and 500+ hours mostly
in a 172M. I'm "local" to Sky Bryce or other area airports. I suspect
others may be interested too.
Jeff Davidson
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jim
Subject: Zenith-List: First SLSA 601XL Demonstrated Performance
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
All,
On October 5th the FAA issued an SLSA Airworthiness Certificate on the 1st
Zenair 601XL produced by Czech Aircraft Works, and distributed by
SportsPlanes.com
Look for a formal announcement of this event in EAA's online newsletter in
the near future.
This first aircraft (side number N601VA) was delivered to me on Friday 7
October. I flew the airplane back to Virginia with my Mid-Atlantic Sports
Planes Chief Pilot, Nathan Mayers. This beautiful airplane will be used in
our 1-week Sport Pilot Immersive Flight School at the Bryce Mountain Resort
in Virginia.
Statistics and Performance with a Rotax 912S 100 hp engine:
Empty Weight: 728 lbs (from actual weight and balance for N601VA)
Gross Takeoff Weight: 1320 lbs
Actual Useful Load: 592 lbs
Fuel Capacity: 30 gallons (29 useable) 180 lbs
Useful Load with Full Fuel: 412 lbs
Useful Load with 15 gallons of fuel: 502 lbs
On the flight from Lakeland, FL to Virginia we were able to reach 130 mph
Max Continuous Cruise Speed (true airspeed) at 5500 RPM. We also took this
beautiful performing bird up to 13,500 feet. We averaged 4.9 gallons per
hour for the entire trip. We got 125 mph True Airspeed at 5200 RPM.
My estimation of maximum range with 30 minute reserves, given the
performance on this trip, would be 662 miles over a 5.3 hour trip (5 gallons
per hour at 125 mph, 29 gallons useable, 30 minute reserve).
The bird had plenty of baggage space with two wing lockers and a cavernouse
storage area behind the seats. I am more than pleased with "N601VA".....it
will be a great workhorse for our flight school and for rentals. Our first
Sport Pilot School student is coming tomorrow for a week.
For more information about the 601XL and the other aircraft we sell please
go to one of the following two websites:
www.sportsplanes.com
www.MASPL.com
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
jim@sportsplanes.com
Sent via the WebMail system at Engage IT
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tony & Peggy Pierce" <piercetonypeggy@mail.usa.com>
We have a 912ULS from Skyshops, and we used the hose supplied by them. The
outlet from the waterpump had to be rotated such that the hose curved
smoothly from the waterpump to the radiator on the left side of the engine
(looking forward, same side as oil filter). The return line then had to be
curved 180 degrees as it came back and up to
the expansion tank.
Tony Pierce
CH701/912ULS - waiting for paperwork
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----- Original Message -----
From: <NYTerminat@aol.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: 912S engine installation in 701
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> List
>
> I am installing a 912S in a CH701 and have a question on the coolant line
> routing. I have the Firewall Forward package from Skyshops ( Czech Works)
> new
> style cowl. The drawing 7-E-13Z shows two different hose routing
> connections for
> the 912 and the 912S. The 912 has the bottom of the radiator connecting to
> the
> water pump and the 912S the bottom of the radiator connects to the top
> expansion tank. Why would there be a difference? Does it matter which side
> connects
> to the bottom of the radiator?
>
> One of the problems I am having is that the coolant hose that was supplied
> has very little flexibility to bend without kinking. It almost has no
> ability to
> bend. It would be better to route them as the 912 shows .Has anyone had
> this
> problem? Is there anyone that has installed the newer style cowl on a 701
> with
> the 912S? If there is could you contact me as I have some other
> questions/concerns.
>
> I have seen that blue coolant hose on other peoples planes, where do I get
> that and does it bend well? The hose that I have is black, it is called
> Semperit
> FKD Kuhlwasser/cooling water 25x3.5. On the photo's that I got from
> Skyshops
> they show short pieces of hose connecting to aluminum preformed pipes. All
> I
> got was a length of hose.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you guys
>
> Thanks
> Bob Spudis
>
> Ch-701/912S frustrated
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
I look in the automotive radiator hose sections and find prebent hoses
that can be joined to get to the desired shape.
Mike
UHS Spinners
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> List
>
> I am installing a 912S in a CH701 and have a question on the coolant line
> routing. I have the Firewall Forward package from Skyshops ( Czech Works) new
> style cowl. The drawing 7-E-13Z shows two different hose routing connections
for
> the 912 and the 912S. The 912 has the bottom of the radiator connecting to the
> water pump and the 912S the bottom of the radiator connects to the top
> expansion tank. Why would there be a difference? Does it matter which side connects
> to the bottom of the radiator?
>
> One of the problems I am having is that the coolant hose that was supplied
> has very little flexibility to bend without kinking. It almost has no ability
to
> bend. It would be better to route them as the 912 shows .Has anyone had this
> problem? Is there anyone that has installed the newer style cowl on a 701 with
> the 912S? If there is could you contact me as I have some other
> questions/concerns.
>
> I have seen that blue coolant hose on other peoples planes, where do I get
> that and does it bend well? The hose that I have is black, it is called Semperit
> FKD Kuhlwasser/cooling water 25x3.5. On the photo's that I got from Skyshops
> they show short pieces of hose connecting to aluminum preformed pipes. All I
> got was a length of hose.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you guys
>
> Thanks
> Bob Spudis
>
> Ch-701/912S frustrated
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Trevor Page <webmaster@upac.ca>
The folks at http://www.rotaxservice.com/rotax_parts/
rotax_installation.htm have a really neat straight water outlet as a
replacement. I bought one and I'm going to install it in the spring
when I do my spring pre-flight routine.
I'll be able to remove a lot of extra curves in my coolant circuit
with this!
Trev Page
C-IDUS 601HD R912
On Nov 26, 2005, at 1:47 PM, Tony & Peggy Pierce wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tony & Peggy Pierce"
> <piercetonypeggy@mail.usa.com>
>
> We have a 912ULS from Skyshops, and we used the hose supplied by
> them. The
> outlet from the waterpump had to be rotated such that the hose curved
> smoothly from the waterpump to the radiator on the left side of the
> engine
> (looking forward, same side as oil filter). The return line then
> had to be
> curved 180 degrees as it came back and up to
> the expansion tank.
> Tony Pierce
> CH701/912ULS - waiting for paperwork
> Do Not Archive
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <NYTerminat@aol.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Zenith-List: 912S engine installation in 701
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
Bob
I just removed a 912UL which had the hose from the water pump to the top of the
radiator, a friend has a 912S that has his hose going to the bottom. I would think
that
the choice would be as to which is easier for routing your hoses. Either way the
water
goes from the pump, through the radiator, and then up to the expansion tank. And
it's
almost all uphill on the way to the tank.
Mike Sinclair
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> List
>
> I am installing a 912S in a CH701 and have a question on the coolant line
> routing. I have the Firewall Forward package from Skyshops ( Czech Works) new
> style cowl. The drawing 7-E-13Z shows two different hose routing connections
for
> the 912 and the 912S. The 912 has the bottom of the radiator connecting to the
> water pump and the 912S the bottom of the radiator connects to the top
> expansion tank. Why would there be a difference? Does it matter which side connects
> to the bottom of the radiator?
>
> One of the problems I am having is that the coolant hose that was supplied
> has very little flexibility to bend without kinking. It almost has no ability
to
> bend. It would be better to route them as the 912 shows .Has anyone had this
> problem? Is there anyone that has installed the newer style cowl on a 701 with
> the 912S? If there is could you contact me as I have some other
> questions/concerns.
>
> I have seen that blue coolant hose on other peoples planes, where do I get
> that and does it bend well? The hose that I have is black, it is called Semperit
> FKD Kuhlwasser/cooling water 25x3.5. On the photo's that I got from Skyshops
> they show short pieces of hose connecting to aluminum preformed pipes. All I
> got was a length of hose.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you guys
>
> Thanks
> Bob Spudis
>
> Ch-701/912S frustrated
>
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| Subject: | XL Nose Gear Doubler |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
I've hunted the ZAC website for about an hour to find an updated drawing
depicting the new doubler that fits around 6G1-2, the nose wheel fork but
have yet to find one.
I have the new piece but I'm not sure if it only takes bolts through the
bottom plate of the gear leg or if it also has some through the sides into
the original fork or not. Seems like it has to have more than just those on
top to be effective, but I notice the HD drawings don't show any.
Anyone have an idea?
Paul
XL - O200
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| Subject: | XL Nose Gear Doubler |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
There are 2 AN3A bolts on either side of the doubler into the main. If you
are
using wheel pants they are also used to hold the side brackets
George May
601XL 912S
>From: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Zenith-List: XL Nose Gear Doubler
>Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:59:22 -0700
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>
>I've hunted the ZAC website for about an hour to find an updated drawing
>depicting the new doubler that fits around 6G1-2, the nose wheel fork but
>have yet to find one.
>
>I have the new piece but I'm not sure if it only takes bolts through the
>bottom plate of the gear leg or if it also has some through the sides into
>the original fork or not. Seems like it has to have more than just those on
>top to be effective, but I notice the HD drawings don't show any.
>
>Anyone have an idea?
>
>
>Paul
>XL - O200
>Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
That's ignoring a bunch of hydraulics and physics principles that I'm sure
others here will be happy to explain to you, and that I'm sure your local
A&P will be really thrilled to see you do...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike
Sinclair
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S engine installation in 701
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
Bob
I just removed a 912UL which had the hose from the water pump to the top of
the
radiator, a friend has a 912S that has his hose going to the bottom. I would
think that
the choice would be as to which is easier for routing your hoses. Either way
the water
goes from the pump, through the radiator, and then up to the expansion tank.
And it's
almost all uphill on the way to the tank.
Mike Sinclair
NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> List
>
> I am installing a 912S in a CH701 and have a question on the coolant line
> routing. I have the Firewall Forward package from Skyshops ( Czech Works)
new
> style cowl. The drawing 7-E-13Z shows two different hose routing
connections for
> the 912 and the 912S. The 912 has the bottom of the radiator connecting to
the
> water pump and the 912S the bottom of the radiator connects to the top
> expansion tank. Why would there be a difference? Does it matter which side
connects
> to the bottom of the radiator?
>
> One of the problems I am having is that the coolant hose that was supplied
> has very little flexibility to bend without kinking. It almost has no
ability to
> bend. It would be better to route them as the 912 shows .Has anyone had
this
> problem? Is there anyone that has installed the newer style cowl on a 701
with
> the 912S? If there is could you contact me as I have some other
> questions/concerns.
>
> I have seen that blue coolant hose on other peoples planes, where do I get
> that and does it bend well? The hose that I have is black, it is called
Semperit
> FKD Kuhlwasser/cooling water 25x3.5. On the photo's that I got from
Skyshops
> they show short pieces of hose connecting to aluminum preformed pipes. All
I
> got was a length of hose.
>
> I look forward to hearing from you guys
>
> Thanks
> Bob Spudis
>
> Ch-701/912S frustrated
>
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| Subject: | Pre-heater for Ch601 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
This is a great idea. I might change my current direction and try this out.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rical26
Subject: Zenith-List: Pre-heater for Ch601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: rical26 <rical26@rogers.com>
Hi All, I bought a propane tent heater with a 12 volts fan that produce
up to 10 000 BTU with a single small (green) bottle. It come with a
padded bag and weight about 10 Lbs. I put the fan in at the bottom
cowling and the hot air exit at the top cowling (at the oil check door
or front cowling) and within 10 minutes my engine is warm. 2 things; it
is a open flame near fuel system and you have to protect it somehow when
it's windy because the wind will put the flame out.
Check at www.zodi.com
regards
Richard
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| Subject: | Re: The List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're |
Listed!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Steve Hulland <marinegunner@gmail.com>
Matt,
My check will be coming just as soon as I receive payment for the class I
was doing when I had the stroke. Probably around 2nd week of December.
Semper Fi,
Steve H.
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
Bill
Rather than waiting for someone else to explain these hydraulics and physics
principles that apply to this situation, how about you go ahead and enlighten
us. I went and got my manual out of the box of the brand new 912S that I just
had shipped to me 3 weeks ago and the diagram actually shows the hose going from
the water pump to the top of the radiator (as I had it installed on my 912UL).
I
have also seen the hoses ran the other way with no adverse affects. I was in
error on one assumption however, instead of the coolant going from the water
pump to the radiator, it actually goes the other direction and is pumped
directly into the heads on the engine. BTW, my local A&P deals primarily with
certificated engines such as Continental & Lycoming, so if you have knowledge
concerning Rotax engines and their cooling systems that is not included in the
manuals, I am sure that I am not the only one that would be interested in
hearing it.
Mike Sinclair
Bill Denton wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
>
> That's ignoring a bunch of hydraulics and physics principles that I'm sure
> others here will be happy to explain to you, and that I'm sure your local
> A&P will be really thrilled to see you do...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Mike
> Sinclair
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 912S engine installation in 701
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
>
> Bob
>
> I just removed a 912UL which had the hose from the water pump to the top of
> the
> radiator, a friend has a 912S that has his hose going to the bottom. I would
> think that
> the choice would be as to which is easier for routing your hoses. Either way
> the water
> goes from the pump, through the radiator, and then up to the expansion tank.
> And it's
> almost all uphill on the way to the tank.
>
> Mike Sinclair
>
> NYTerminat@aol.com wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
> >
> > List
> >
> > I am installing a 912S in a CH701 and have a question on the coolant line
> > routing. I have the Firewall Forward package from Skyshops ( Czech Works)
> new
> > style cowl. The drawing 7-E-13Z shows two different hose routing
> connections for
> > the 912 and the 912S. The 912 has the bottom of the radiator connecting to
> the
> > water pump and the 912S the bottom of the radiator connects to the top
> > expansion tank. Why would there be a difference? Does it matter which side
> connects
> > to the bottom of the radiator?
> >
> > One of the problems I am having is that the coolant hose that was supplied
> > has very little flexibility to bend without kinking. It almost has no
> ability to
> > bend. It would be better to route them as the 912 shows .Has anyone had
> this
> > problem? Is there anyone that has installed the newer style cowl on a 701
> with
> > the 912S? If there is could you contact me as I have some other
> > questions/concerns.
> >
> > I have seen that blue coolant hose on other peoples planes, where do I get
> > that and does it bend well? The hose that I have is black, it is called
> Semperit
> > FKD Kuhlwasser/cooling water 25x3.5. On the photo's that I got from
> Skyshops
> > they show short pieces of hose connecting to aluminum preformed pipes. All
> I
> > got was a length of hose.
> >
> > I look forward to hearing from you guys
> >
> > Thanks
> > Bob Spudis
> >
> > Ch-701/912S frustrated
> >
>
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| Subject: | XL Nose Gear Doubler |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "wscribb" <wscribb@centurytel.net>
Paul
Here is a link to the Builders Notice regarding the nose fork doubler.
http://www.zenithair.com/zodiac/xl/data/601xl-nose-wheel-fork-letter.pdf
Cheers
Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Moore
Subject: Zenith-List: XL Nose Gear Doubler
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
I've hunted the ZAC website for about an hour to find an updated drawing
depicting the new doubler that fits around 6G1-2, the nose wheel fork but
have yet to find one.
I have the new piece but I'm not sure if it only takes bolts through the
bottom plate of the gear leg or if it also has some through the sides into
the original fork or not. Seems like it has to have more than just those on
top to be effective, but I notice the HD drawings don't show any.
Anyone have an idea?
Paul
XL - O200
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Sinclair <mike.sinclair@att.net>
All
I will add one little caveat to my previous post, I can see that if for some reason
you
have been losing coolant, pulling the coolant from the bottom of the radiator might
allow
you to go a little further before the engine seizes up. However, I would suspect
that if
the coolant has gotten that low you will already be seeing indications of overheating
on
your cylinder head or oil temp gages. That said, I believe I may be routing my
lines the
other way after all. Will just have to ask a few more questions to the guys that
work with
these systems daily. Happy Holidays to alla y'all.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: XL Nose Gear Doubler |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" <armyret@one-eleven.net>
Paul- The doubler takes 6 bolts thru the top using the existing holes (if
you have already drilled them). You need a little longer bolt that the
AN4-7A called for on the original drawing 6-G-1. Also there are two bolts
on the sides of the fork (total of 4) about 10mm up from the bottom of the
reenforcement. All these bolts should be included in the package with the
fork reenforcement. I don't have the installation instructions with me but
hope this helps.
Regards,
Al Young
N-601AY
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| Subject: | Re: XL Nose Gear Doubler |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Steer" <bsteer@gwi.net>
My HD drawings show one AN4-6A bolt through the doubler and the original
fork on each side, positioned 15mm from the bottom of the doubler. Be sure
to firmly bolt the doubler and original fork together at the top before
drilling the holes for those bolts.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: XL Nose Gear Doubler
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
>
> I've hunted the ZAC website for about an hour to find an updated drawing
> depicting the new doubler that fits around 6G1-2, the nose wheel fork but
> have yet to find one.
>
> I have the new piece but I'm not sure if it only takes bolts through the
> bottom plate of the gear leg or if it also has some through the sides into
> the original fork or not. Seems like it has to have more than just those
on
> top to be effective, but I notice the HD drawings don't show any.
>
> Anyone have an idea?
>
>
> Paul
> XL - O200
> Do Not Archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
In a message dated 11/26/2005 3:42:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
webmaster@upac.ca writes:
www.rotaxservice.com
Not sure that that water outlet would help.
Bob Spudis
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| Subject: | Re: 912S engine installation in 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Denton" <bdenton@bdenton.com>
That's ignoring a bunch of hydraulics and physics principles that I'm sure
others here will be happy to explain to you, and that I'm sure your local
A&P will be really thrilled to see you do...
Which way are you saying that it has to be?
Bob Spudis
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