Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:56 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Richard Hutson)
2. 02:12 AM - Re: GPS / Compass (Larry Portouw)
3. 02:17 AM - Re: antenna question (Larry Portouw)
4. 02:30 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Kevin Thorp)
5. 03:09 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Jim Pellien)
6. 03:11 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Jim Pellien)
7. 03:46 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Paul Mulwitz)
8. 04:13 AM - Re: Nav light mounting (Adams Stephen - Doctors Hosp Augusta)
9. 05:17 AM - Re: Nav light mounting (Don Mountain)
10. 05:37 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Don Mountain)
11. 05:47 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Don Mountain)
12. 06:27 AM - bending .093 angle (David Johnson)
13. 06:31 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (cgalley)
14. 06:34 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (jim)
15. 07:08 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Tommy Walker)
16. 07:39 AM - Re: bending .093 angle (N5SL)
17. 07:54 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Don Mountain)
18. 07:55 AM - Re: bending .093 angle (VideoFlyer@aol.com)
19. 08:10 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Don Mountain)
20. 08:30 AM - Re: Facet pump - need one? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
21. 08:36 AM - Re: Facet pump - need one? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
22. 09:53 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (doug kandle)
23. 09:53 AM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (cgalley)
24. 12:51 PM - Re: Nav light mounting (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
25. 01:33 PM - 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
26. 01:52 PM - Re: Nav light mounting (Don Mountain)
27. 02:12 PM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Craig Payne)
28. 02:26 PM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Craig Payne)
29. 02:31 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Paul Mulwitz)
30. 02:52 PM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Tom Orsborn)
31. 03:31 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Robin Bellach)
32. 03:43 PM - Re: Nav light mounting (Bryan Martin)
33. 03:46 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Craig Payne)
34. 04:15 PM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Richard Hutson)
35. 04:16 PM - Re: SLSA Comparison Chart (Bryan Martin)
36. 05:24 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
37. 05:29 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
38. 06:21 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Robin Bellach)
39. 06:31 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Robin Bellach)
40. 06:36 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Paul Mulwitz)
41. 06:53 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Craig Payne)
42. 07:48 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity (Robin Bellach)
43. 08:20 PM - Re: Re: Zenith-List Digest: Wiring Question 601XL 0235 LYC (William Jeffries)
44. 10:34 PM - Wheel Kits (kevinbonds)
45. 11:20 PM - Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity. (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
WORK FOR ME!!!
----- Original Message -----
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> The white box with the red border that says "Comparison of all 22 SLSAs"
> on
> your home page doesn't appear to link to anywhere. How do I get to the
> chart?
>
> -- Craig
> > Subject: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
> on
> my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jim Pellien
>
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
> The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
> www.MASPL.com
>
> 703-313-4818
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>
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| Subject: | Re: GPS / Compass |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Portouw" <Larry@portouw.com>
There is deliberate jamming to deal with, too. It's especially important to
watch the NOTAMS around military test activities such as the Electronic
Proving Ground at Fort Huachuca, AZ, Yuma Proving Ground, AZ, and White
Sands, NM for example. I've seen GPS signal testing conducted centered on
the FHU VORTAC, usually in the very wee hours of the morning. As I recall
the warning usually describes a cone of interference increasing in diameter
with height. Multiple means of navigation are a good idea. I use 4: map,
compass, watch, and GPS for backup.
Larry Portouw
601XL kit
Atlanta, GA
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Rick said:
GPS signals are used for a lot of other uses than that of navigation.
I'm in the
Telcom industry and we use GPS as a timing source for our optical
transport
equipment. That way all the little bits line up across the country
without any,
(much) delay. We can revert to line timing should we loose a
receiver, etc...
DO NOT ARCHIVE
Rick
Orlando, FL. USA
http://www.n701rr.com
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| Subject: | Re: antenna question |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Portouw" <Larry@portouw.com>
Gig, John I've got a Sporty's hand held for backup and was surprised to find
that the VOR receiver in it works quite well, although with reduced range.
It gives a stable course indication with a strong signal using the rubber
antenna. This in a Tri-pacer, so I don't know if an all metal plane would
degrade it.
Larry Portouw
601XL kit
Atlanta, GA
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Time:
06:11:01 AM PST US
From:
"Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Subject:
Re: antenna question
John,
I don't have a handheld but have played with a couple in other peoples
aircraft and never got the NAV function to work that well. None of the
ones
I messed with were connected to an external antenna. So either they
need it
or they just don't work.
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Kevin Thorp <kevin@medamation.com>
The link didn't work for me, either. It only works if you're running
Microsoft's Internet Explorer. (I use Firefox).
Here's the direct link: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
Richard Hutson wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>
>WORK FOR ME!!!
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
>>
>>The white box with the red border that says "Comparison of all 22 SLSAs"
>>on
>>your home page doesn't appear to link to anywhere. How do I get to the
>>chart?
>>
>>-- Craig
>>
>>
>>>Subject: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
>>>
>>>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>>
>>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
>>on
>>my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
>>
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>Jim Pellien
>>
>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>>
>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>>
>>www.MASPL.com
>>
>>703-313-4818
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Craig,
I just tried it on my browser and it works just fine. Anybody else having
this type of problem?
Craig, What type of browser are you using?
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Payne
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
The white box with the red border that says "Comparison of all 22 SLSAs" on
your home page doesn't appear to link to anywhere. How do I get to the
chart?
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien
Subject: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's on
my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Paul,
The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
What Internet browser are you using?
Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be for
Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the red
box.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Jim,
I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
thanks,
Paul
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At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
on
>my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
>
>
>Jim
>
>
>Jim Pellien
>
>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>www.MASPL.com
>
>703-313-4818
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Thanks Kevin,
I use Firefox too. It seems to me anyone who uses MS Internet
Explorer is just looking to have their computer destroyed by a worm or virus.
Paul
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At 02:29 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Kevin Thorp <kevin@medamation.com>
>
>The link didn't work for me, either. It only works if you're running
>Microsoft's Internet Explorer. (I use Firefox).
>
>Here's the direct link: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
>
>Richard Hutson wrote:
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson"
> <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
> >
> >WORK FOR ME!!!
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >
> >
> >
> >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
> >>
> >>The white box with the red border that says "Comparison of all 22 SLSAs"
> >>on
> >>your home page doesn't appear to link to anywhere. How do I get to the
> >>chart?
> >>
> >>-- Craig
> >>
> >>
> >>>Subject: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
> >>>
> >>>
> >>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
> >>
> >>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
> >>on
> >>my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jim
> >>
> >>
> >>Jim Pellien
> >>
> >>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> >>
> >>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
> >>
> >>www.MASPL.com
> >>
> >>703-313-4818
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Nav light mounting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Adams Stephen - Doctors Hosp Augusta" <Stephen.Adams@HCAhealthcare.com>
I don't know how different the wingtip in the 601 is from the 640, but in the 640
you make a ground/backing plate out of .016 sheet. This rivets inside the fiberglass
tip where the light mounts, then extends under the upper wing skin about
100 mm and is riveted to the wing skin. It is kind of difficult to describe,
but I have photos if anyone is interested. It provides a solid backing to
hold the rivets and rivnuts, as well as providing a good ground for the nav lights.
Steve Adams
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| Subject: | Re: Nav light mounting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Thanks Steve. I already cut a backing plate the same size and with all the same
holes as the light base, to use as a guide to cut the holes in the fiberglass
wingtip. After all the suggestions, I am now thinking about just adding
some anchor nut plates riveted on like we used on the inspection plates, and
then epoxy gluing the plate on the inside of the fiberglass so I can then just
use screws to remove and replace the light socket. And I can slip a wire
with a ring type terminal through the same hole as the other flasher wire socket,
and screw it down under one of the mounting screws.
Don, 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
> I don't know how different the wingtip
> in the 601 is from the 640, but in the
> 640 you make a ground/backing plate
> out of .016 sheet. This rivets inside
> the fiberglass tip where the light
> mounts, then extends under the upper
> wing skin about 100 mm and is riveted
> to the wing skin.
>Steve Adams
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Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet.
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Jim, I am using Mozilla Firefox also, and the box appears on your main page, but
unlike other links on the page, my cursor doesn't change into a pointed hand
indicating that I can select anything. And when I do click on the red and
white comparison box, nothing happens. Earlier I think when I first brought
up your web page, the red and white box didn't even appear. But I can get
to it from a previously posted direct link.
Don, 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
Jim Pellien <jim@pellien.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien"
Paul,
The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
What Internet browser are you using?
Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be for
Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the red
box.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
Hi Jim,
I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
thanks,
Paul
do not archive
At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien"
>
>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
on
>my website: www.MASPL.com
>
>
>Jim
>
>
>Jim Pellien
>
>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>www.MASPL.com
>
>703-313-4818
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I use the Firefox browser now too, after losing all of my software to the MS Internet
virus problem. With it you have to spend lots of money on current virus
protection software, and it slows down the computer so much that you better
have a big cup of coffee between eash web page you view. With Firefox I can
run with an older 500 clock speed, with MS Internet you need to have at least
a 4000 clock speed, and even then you wait long periods of time to run the
virus protection. Not good.
Don
Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted
by: Paul Mulwitz
Thanks Kevin,
I use Firefox too. It seems to me anyone who uses MS Internet
Explorer is just looking to have their computer destroyed by a worm or virus.
Paul
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Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet.
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| Subject: | bending .093 angle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Johnson" <david_a_g_johnson@btinternet.com>
I'm building a 601XL, completed the wings and just started on the fuselage - hit
a problem straight away!
What is the best way to bend the forward longerons (the 0.093" angles) to match
the curve of the forward fuselage without either crumpling the angle or giving
myself a hernia?
I have managed to get a slight curve, but the material is very springy.
Dave Johnson
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I am the webmaster for several Web sites.
Not all browsers will respond to the code that Internet explorer does. It
is very frustrating as a webmaster to find that it works with IE but FireFox
has an entire differnt agenda. Formatting might be different or disappear
entirely.
I use Mailwasher and V-com virus checker. NO slow down. Just don't open
unknown attachments. If strange things happen then use the system restore.
I seldom have to except for my own induced problems.
Cy Galley - Webmaster
www.edgewoodaggregates.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mountain" <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
> Jim, I am using Mozilla Firefox also, and the box appears on your main
> page, but unlike other links on the page, my cursor doesn't change into a
> pointed hand indicating that I can select anything. And when I do click
> on the red and white comparison box, nothing happens. Earlier I think
> when I first brought up your web page, the red and white box didn't even
> appear. But I can get to it from a previously posted direct link.
>
> Don, 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
>
> Jim Pellien <jim@pellien.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by:
> "Jim Pellien"
>
> Paul,
>
>
> The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
>
>
> What Internet browser are you using?
>
>
> Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
> box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be
> for
> Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the
> red
> box.
>
>
> Jim
>
>
> Jim Pellien
>
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
> The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
> www.MASPL.com
>
> 703-313-4818
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
>
> I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
>
>
> thanks,
>
>
> Paul
>
> do not archive
>
>
> At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien"
>
>>
>
>>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
> on
>
>>my website: www.MASPL.com
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Jim
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Jim Pellien
>
>>
>
>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>>
>
>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>>
>
>>www.MASPL.com
>
>>
>
>>703-313-4818
>
>>
>
>>
>
>
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>
> Paul Mulwitz
>
> 32013 NE Dial Road
>
> Camas, WA 98607
>
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
Don,
Can you get to the comparison chart by putting in the URL for that webpage?
http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
So far it sounds like it is a problem limited to machines that use the Mozilla
Firefox browser.
Has anybody who is using Internet Explorer browser seen this problem?
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
jim@sportsplanes.com
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
>Jim, I am using Mozilla Firefox also, and the box appears on your main page,
but unlike other links on the page, my cursor doesn't change into a pointed hand
indicating that I can select anything. And when I do click on the red and
white comparison box, nothing happens. Earlier I think when I first brought
up your web page, the red and white box didn't even appear. But I can get
to it from a previously posted direct link.
>
> Don, 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
>
>Jim Pellien <jim@pellien.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim
Pellien"
>
>Paul,
>
>
>The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
>
>
>What Internet browser are you using?
>
>
>Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
>box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be for
>Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the red
>box.
>
>
>Jim
>
>
>Jim Pellien
>
>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>www.MASPL.com
>
>703-313-4818
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
>
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>
>
>Hi Jim,
>
>
>I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
>
>
>thanks,
>
>
>Paul
>
>do not archive
>
>
>At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien"
>
>>
>
>>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
>on
>
>>my website: www.MASPL.com
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Jim
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>Jim Pellien
>
>>
>
>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>>
>
>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>>
>
>>www.MASPL.com
>
>>
>
>>703-313-4818
>
>>
>
>>
>
>
>---------------------------------------------
>
>Paul Mulwitz
>
>32013 NE Dial Road
>
>Camas, WA 98607
>
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Jim,
It works for me using IE 6.0
Tommy Walker in Alabama
Do Not Archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of jim
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
Don,
Can you get to the comparison chart by putting in the URL for that webpage?
http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
So far it sounds like it is a problem limited to machines that use the
Mozilla Firefox browser.
Has anybody who is using Internet Explorer browser seen this problem?
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
jim@sportsplanes.com
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| Subject: | Re: bending .093 angle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Hi David:
I posted a photo on my website of this process but I
have to give Larry McFarland full credit for the idea
- I think he has a photo or two posted as well at
macsmachine.com. Here's how I did it (I used 1/8"
thick angle instead of the .093" angles):
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/7_28_04_LongeronBending.JPG
It will tend to bend in two planes, so you have to
work with it, but I was able to get two identical
bends for my 1/8" thick upper longerons.
Good luck,
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
--- David Johnson <david_a_g_johnson@btinternet.com>
wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Johnson"
> <david_a_g_johnson@btinternet.com>
>
> I'm building a 601XL, completed the wings and just
> started on the fuselage - hit a problem straight
> away!
>
> What is the best way to bend the forward longerons
> (the 0.093" angles) to match the curve of the
> forward fuselage without either crumpling the angle
> or giving myself a hernia?
>
> I have managed to get a slight curve, but the
> material is very springy.
>
> Dave Johnson
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
> Click on
> about
> provided
> www.buildersbooks.com,
> Admin.
> _->
> browse
> Subscriptions page,
> FAQ,
>
>
>
>
>
>
Just $16.99/mo. or less.
dsl.yahoo.com
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Jim,
Yes, I can get there from your direct link without any problems. I think the
first time I brought up your web page, something else beside the picture of
3 guys standing in front of a Zenith 601 XL was in the middle of the page.
Then as I watched, real slowly, the picture of the 601 started to appear from
the top down over the previous picture that later appeared at the bottom of
the page. And the red bordered white link to SLSA comparisons appeared. But
I couldn't click on it.
I have to use the Firefox browser on this computer because all of my Microsoft
stuff was destroyed by a "new" virus or worm that wasn't in my current protection
firewall. And the new worm wouldn't allow me to "fix" any of the destroyed
software without reformatting my whole drive. And losing some older valuable
software that I no longer pay the upkeep for. So, to protect the stuff
I have left, I have to use Firefox.
Don, 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
jim <jim@pellien.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim"
Don,
Can you get to the comparison chart by putting in the URL for that webpage?
http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
So far it sounds like it is a problem limited to machines that use the Mozilla
Firefox browser.
Has anybody who is using Internet Explorer browser seen this problem?
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
jim@sportsplanes.com
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Let fate take it's course directly to your email.
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| Subject: | Re: bending .093 angle |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: VideoFlyer@aol.com
I used the 1/8 inch thick angle as well. And I bent it much like Larry
McFarland did. It has a tendency to "twist" when you bend it..or as Scott Laughlin
says, "it will bend on two planes" But if you work with it, it can be
coaxed into the proper shape. It took a little patience...and some elbow grease,
but mine came out pretty well.
Dave
601XL/Corvair
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Hello Cy,
Thanks for the info, but all of my Microsoft software has already destroyed
itself, even after running a supposidly current firewall. And I can't afford
to throw away some software that I no longer pay for the support for, but runs
just fine. And "restoring" the internet browser does not fix the problem.
Microsoft Internet Browser is the source for all of these problems, and I
just work around or not view web pages that don't appear on Firefox. I have
never had any problems with it. And I believe that an awful lot of people are
moving away from Microsoft products due to their self-destroying features when
using the Internet. You web masters need to start programming for compatibility
with Firefox and other browsers if you want to sell stuff.
Don, 601XL, tail done, working on wings
cgalley <cgalley@qcbc.org> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley"
I am the webmaster for several Web sites.
Not all browsers will respond to the code that Internet explorer does. It
is very frustrating as a webmaster to find that it works with IE but FireFox
has an entire differnt agenda. Formatting might be different or disappear
entirely.
I use Mailwasher and V-com virus checker. NO slow down. Just don't open
unknown attachments. If strange things happen then use the system restore.
I seldom have to except for my own induced problems.
Cy Galley - Webmaster
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| Subject: | Facet pump - need one? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
I had a 105 and a 106 at the same time, one pump buried in each wing
root with wing tank only and no mechanical pump.
At full power flowing around 8GPH the 105 would show zero pressure (this
is full power on the subaru but will be the same for any similar 100HP
engine)
The 106 showed roughly 4psi.
These numbers ae with a single pump running which is how I switch my
tanks...I.e the right pump pumps pumps from the right tank and Vice
versa.
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin
Bellach
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Facet pump - need one?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
What sort of carburetion or fuel injection system have you found the
40105 inadequate for?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 6:42 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Facet pump - need one?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
>
> The 4015's are the low pressure pumps...I found these to not
generate
> enough pressure for single electric pump operation from wing tanks.
You
> will need the 40106's for this application.
>
> The 40105's will be fine for use with a header tank or possibly for
use
> a primer pump for an engine with a mechanical fuel pump such as the
> Rotax.
>
> Frank
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin
> Bellach
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: Facet pump - need one?
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach"
<601zv@ritternet.com>
>
> I have an extra Facet 40105 from the ZAC kit as I have just ordered
> two 40108's from ACS (I'm doing 601XL installation perWW). I'll sell
the
> 40105 for $25, shipping included.
> Note: The 40105 has the 1/8 NPT female threads instead of the AN-6
> male of the 40108. Also, the box shows part number 40105N, and I
don't
> know what the "N" suffix designates.
>
> Robin Bellach, Jasper, AR
> 601XL long-range tri-gear w/Wynne-Vair 2900, empenage, wings &
> engine done, struggling along with fuse and f-fwd
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Facet pump - need one? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Read my other message where the 105 showed zero at the carb. Probably OK
for the engine driven pump version.
The pump in series argument has been around a long time and if you think
about it this is how FI Lycomings are plumbed and seem to be reliable.
Just try to understand what the failure modes can be.
I don't know if I would plumb this way or not...My new FI Lycoming has
two electric pumps only simply because I am comfortable with the system
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff
Davidson
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Facet pump - need one?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jeff Davidson"
--> <jeffrey_davidson@earthlink.net>
The 4015's are the low pressure pumps...I found these to not generate
enough pressure for single electric pump operation from wing tanks. You
will need the 40106's for this application.
The 40105's will be fine for use with a header tank or possibly for use
a primer pump for an engine with a mechanical fuel pump such as the
Rotax.
Frank,
At the Jabiru workshop last summer, Jabiru recommended the "2-4" PSI
Facet pump. They are looking for 1 - 3 inches squared at the Bing
carby.
To me, that translates to the 40105. The Jabiru 3300 also has a
mechanical fuel pump. The Jabiru engine maintenance manual lists it at
3-3 1/2 lbs. I know this violates others warnings, but they recommend
plumbing the two pumps in series.
Jeff Davidson
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I'll second that motion! Look at the source for the web page in
question. The offending html is enclosed in a comment block! This
is what Microsoft does when it creates a non-compliant
feature. Stick with compliant HTML and save us all a lot of grief.
<!-- is comment entry --> is comment exit
coordsize="21600,21600" o:spt="202" path="m,l,21600r21600,l21600,xe">
blah blah blah
Comparison
of all 22
SLSAs</font
blah blah blah [endif]-->
DO NOT ARCHIVE
At 09:06 AM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>You web masters need to start programming for compatibility with
>Firefox and other browsers if you want to sell stuff.
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
I'm sorry about your problem. Did you try a system restore?
With regards to other browsers... If they want sell their software, then it
ought to be compatible with the standards set forth by W3.org. Since my web
reporting service says that less than 5% are using other browsers, They are
the ones that need to follow the standards, not the site builder following
the standard. Sure there are some work arounds but WHY?
I don't care what browser some one uses as I am not selling anything. I am
providing information. If the person can't find a "FREE" browser that
follows the rules or standards, then that is their problem. I presently run
a site that has parallel pages... One for Pictures and one without for those
that only have a dial up. BUT they both are only garanteed to work with IE.
If they work with other browsers that don't follow the standards, that is a
bonus. It is sort of like playing football. If in USA, the field is one
size, Canada uses a different field and rules. Would it be fair to have a
USA and Canadian team play a game where in each team uses a different set of
rules?
Cy Galley - MVR Webmaster
www.aaca.org/mvr
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mountain" <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
> Hello Cy,
>
> Thanks for the info, but all of my Microsoft software has already
> destroyed itself, even after running a supposidly current firewall. And
> I can't afford to throw away some software that I no longer pay for the
> support for, but runs just fine. And "restoring" the internet browser
> does not fix the problem. Microsoft Internet Browser is the source for
> all of these problems, and I just work around or not view web pages that
> don't appear on Firefox. I have never had any problems with it. And I
> believe that an awful lot of people are moving away from Microsoft
> products due to their self-destroying features when using the Internet.
> You web masters need to start programming for compatibility with Firefox
> and other browsers if you want to sell stuff.
>
> Don, 601XL, tail done, working on wings
>
> cgalley <cgalley@qcbc.org> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by:
> "cgalley"
>
> I am the webmaster for several Web sites.
>
> Not all browsers will respond to the code that Internet explorer does. It
> is very frustrating as a webmaster to find that it works with IE but
> FireFox
> has an entire differnt agenda. Formatting might be different or disappear
> entirely.
>
> I use Mailwasher and V-com virus checker. NO slow down. Just don't open
> unknown attachments. If strange things happen then use the system restore.
> I seldom have to except for my own induced problems.
>
> Cy Galley - Webmaster
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Single? There's someone we'd like you to meet.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nav light mounting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Don, its been a couple years and I can't remember the ground. Best way is to
follow the wiring instructions and test fire. If it works, it is correct. I do
remember drilling a ground shaft in each end of the wing spar, but I cannot
remember what connected to what. Best to you, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Dear Thread friends, anybody notice that the twelve gallon ZAC tanks for the
XL actually have a capacity of about eleven gallons ? Seems like 12 pounds or
so forward of the CG missing might be something to be concerned about. Best to
you all, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Nav light mounting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Thanks Bill,
I decided to make sure everything is grounded, by running a separate ground
wire to a separate bolt through the wing spar for both the position light and
the flashing white light controller. This brings up another question. Does
anybody else use that grey paste on aluminum contacts like they do in the electric
power industry to keep them from corroding?
Don, 601XL, tail done, Working on wings.
> Don, its been a couple years and I
> can't remember the ground. Best
> way is to follow the wiring instructions
> and test fire. If it works, it is correct. I
> do remember drilling a ground shaft
> in each end of the wing spar, but I
> cannot remember what connected to
> what. Best to you, Bill of Georgia
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
I'm also using Firefox. I have version 1.5 which was just released.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Paul,
The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
What Internet browser are you using?
Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be for
Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the red
box.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
--> <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Jim,
I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
thanks,
Paul
do not archive
At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved
>SLSA's
on
>my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
>
>
>Jim
>
>
>Jim Pellien
>
>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>www.MASPL.com
>
>703-313-4818
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Don't forget to download the new 1.5 version of Firefox. And if you haven't
already done so, switch to Blackbird for your e-mail client. I had to return
to Outlook because my company uses it.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Mountain
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I use the Firefox browser now too, after losing all of my software to the
MS Internet virus problem. With it you have to spend lots of money on
current virus protection software, and it slows down the computer so much
that you better have a big cup of coffee between eash web page you view.
With Firefox I can run with an older 500 clock speed, with MS Internet you
need to have at least a 4000 clock speed, and even then you wait long
periods of time to run the virus protection. Not good.
Don
Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net> wrote: --> Zenith-List message
posted by: Paul Mulwitz
Thanks Kevin,
I use Firefox too. It seems to me anyone who uses MS Internet Explorer is
just looking to have their computer destroyed by a worm or virus.
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Bill,
Is that 11 gallons useable or 11 gallons total?
Paul
XL wings
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At 01:32 PM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>Dear Thread friends, anybody notice that the twelve gallon ZAC tanks for the
>XL actually have a capacity of about eleven gallons ? Seems like 12 pounds or
>so forward of the CG missing might be something to be concerned
>about. Best to
>you all, Bill
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tom Orsborn" <tom-orsborn@houston.rr.com>
Jim - the link on your home page works for me. (IE 6.0)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Pellien
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
Paul,
The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
What Internet browser are you using?
Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be for
Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the red
box.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Jim,
I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
thanks,
Paul
do not archive
At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
on
>my website: www.MASPL.com <http://www.maspl.com/>
>
>
>Jim
>
>
>Jim Pellien
>
>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>
>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>
>www.MASPL.com
>
>703-313-4818
>
>
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
Seems to me for CG purposes you only need be concerned with the actual
amount of fuel in the tank, and if you are the aircraft builder you are
responsible for knowing the actual capacity and usable capacity and ZAC's
estimates are moot. And speaking of capacity, I have four of the older ZAC
tanks, for which they claim 10 gal. each - what have you guys who are
farther along found to be the actual and usable capacities of those to be?
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Dear Thread friends, anybody notice that the twelve gallon ZAC tanks for
the
> XL actually have a capacity of about eleven gallons ? Seems like 12
pounds or
> so forward of the CG missing might be something to be concerned about.
Best to
> you all, Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nav light mounting |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
I do.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
on 12/7/05 4:50 PM, Don Mountain at mountain4don@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> This brings up another question. Does
> anybody else use that grey paste on aluminum contacts like they do in the
> electric power industry to keep them from corroding?
>
> Don, 601XL, tail done, Working on wings.
>
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| Subject: | 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
I'll be measuring the capacity of my 601XL tanks very carefully when I
calibrate my fuel gauges. I've got a three liter calibrated cylinder that
stands about 3 feet high. So I'll be pouring gas into my (dry) tanks three
liters at a time and entering the amount of fuel into my "poor man's" glass
panel.
http://www.mglavionics.co.za/ultraHXL.html
Presumably at the end of filling the tanks I will know their true capacity.
Then I will drain all the fuel out through the fuel lines, measure that and
know the usable capacity.
Good thing I don't smoke.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Bellach
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
Seems to me for CG purposes you only need be concerned with the actual
amount of fuel in the tank, and if you are the aircraft builder you are
responsible for knowing the actual capacity and usable capacity and ZAC's
estimates are moot. And speaking of capacity, I have four of the older ZAC
tanks, for which they claim 10 gal. each - what have you guys who are
farther along found to be the actual and usable capacities of those to be?
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 3:32 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Dear Thread friends, anybody notice that the twelve gallon ZAC tanks for
the
> XL actually have a capacity of about eleven gallons ? Seems like 12
pounds or
> so forward of the CG missing might be something to be concerned about.
Best to
> you all, Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
yes
----- Original Message -----
From: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Don,
>
> Can you get to the comparison chart by putting in the URL for that
> webpage?
>
> http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
>
> So far it sounds like it is a problem limited to machines that use the
> Mozilla Firefox browser.
>
> Has anybody who is using Internet Explorer browser seen this problem?
>
> Jim Pellien
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> www.MASPL.com
> 703-313-4818
> jim@sportsplanes.com
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 05:37:00 -0800 (PST)
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Jim, I am using Mozilla Firefox also, and the box appears on your main
>>page, but unlike other links on the page, my cursor doesn't change into a
>>pointed hand indicating that I can select anything. And when I do click
>>on the red and white comparison box, nothing happens. Earlier I think
>>when I first brought up your web page, the red and white box didn't even
>>appear. But I can get to it from a previously posted direct link.
>>
>> Don, 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
>>
>>Jim Pellien <jim@pellien.com> wrote: --> Zenith-List message posted by:
>>"Jim Pellien"
>>
>>Paul,
>>
>>
>>The direct link is: http://www.maspl.com/SLSA%20Comparison.htm
>>
>>
>>What Internet browser are you using?
>>
>>
>>Is anybody getting through to the comparison chart by clicking on the red
>>box on my home page. I'm trying to figure out what the problem might be
>>for
>>Craig and Paul who apparently cannot reach this page by clicking on the
>>red
>>box.
>>
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>Jim Pellien
>>
>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>>
>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>>
>>www.MASPL.com
>>
>>703-313-4818
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
>>[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Mulwitz
>>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Zenith-List: SLSA Comparison Chart
>>
>>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz
>>
>>
>>Hi Jim,
>>
>>
>>I tried to find your new chart but failed. Can you post a direct link?
>>
>>
>>thanks,
>>
>>
>>Paul
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>
>>At 08:32 PM 12/6/2005, you wrote:
>>
>>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien"
>>
>>>
>>
>>>I just posted a Comparison chart for all of the currently approved SLSA's
>>on
>>
>>>my website: www.MASPL.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Jim
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Jim Pellien
>>
>>>
>>
>>>Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
>>
>>>
>>
>>>The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>>www.MASPL.com
>>
>>>
>>
>>>703-313-4818
>>
>>>
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------------------
>>
>>Paul Mulwitz
>>
>>32013 NE Dial Road
>>
>>Camas, WA 98607
>>
>>---------------------------------------------
>>
>>
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| Subject: | Re: SLSA Comparison Chart |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
The link doesn't work for me with Safari, Explorer or Netscape on my Mac. It
only works with Explorer on my PC.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
on 12/7/05 6:08 AM, Jim Pellien at jim@pellien.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Craig,
>
> I just tried it on my browser and it works just fine. Anybody else having
> this type of problem?
>
> Craig, What type of browser are you using?
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Pellien
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
> www.MASPL.com
> 703-313-4818
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Robin, when you compute weight and balance with full loads you multiply the
number of gallons times the weight of fuel. When that is factored in with 180
pounds norm per passenger you can then compute the amount of pounds of baggage
you can haul behind center of gravity. Less weight forward means less weight
rearward. And with a wife that thinks 100 pounds of luggage is roughing it for
an overnight weekend trip that has great bearing. ZAC has given us the CG
knowing by design that the elevator can pitch the plane sufficiently on take off
and landing if the weighs are within computed limitations. That is why 12
pounds forward of CG is important. Best regards, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Paul, the way XL tanks set tipped forwards and about three inches higher out
board I suspect the finger filter gets almost all the fuel. But from bone dry
the tank will hit the overflow at about 11 gallons, maybe a tad more. Best to
you, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
You can always add some lead.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:23 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Robin, when you compute weight and balance with full loads you multiply
the
> number of gallons times the weight of fuel. When that is factored in
with 180
> pounds norm per passenger you can then compute the amount of pounds of
baggage
> you can haul behind center of gravity. Less weight forward means less
weight
> rearward. And with a wife that thinks 100 pounds of luggage is roughing
it for
> an overnight weekend trip that has great bearing. ZAC has given us the
CG
> knowing by design that the elevator can pitch the plane sufficiently on
take off
> and landing if the weighs are within computed limitations. That is why
12
> pounds forward of CG is important. Best regards, Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
That's about what I figure - I'll probably be lucky to get 42 gal. usable
out if my 4 so-called 12-gal. tanks. I do have the 12 gal., not 10 as I
previously said - I was mixed up at the time, thinking that you had the
newer tanks that are 15 gal. when actually you have the same old ones I do.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Paul, the way XL tanks set tipped forwards and about three inches higher
out
> board I suspect the finger filter gets almost all the fuel. But from
bone dry
> the tank will hit the overflow at about 11 gallons, maybe a tad more.
Best to
> you, Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi Bill,
Thanks for the info. I interpret your comment to mean 11 gallons is
the useable fuel in the tank as installed in the plane.
I am not at all surprised the usable fuel is not 12 gallons in a 12
gallon tank. There is always some tank space that doesn't translate
to gas going to the engine in flight.
You may be right about the weight and balance issue introduced by the
fuel "Shortage". On the other hand, the fuel tanks are probably
placed very near the ideal CG. This is done so the removal of fuel
doesn't make a big change in the plane's CG during a long flight. I
wouldn't lose sleep over this being a big design flaw until the
complete picture is clear with the initial weight and balance
calculations on your specific plane. If you need more weight up
front you can always put the battery in the engine compartment like
it is in most cars. I suspect it is more likely that your plane will
need more empty weight in the rear and you will put your battery aft
of the seats - just like most small planes.
I am sure your plane will be OK.
Hang in there.
Paul
XL wings
At 05:29 PM 12/7/2005, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
>Paul, the way XL tanks set tipped forwards and about three inches higher out
>board I suspect the finger filter gets almost all the fuel. But from bone dry
>the tank will hit the overflow at about 11 gallons, maybe a tad more. Best to
>you, Bill
>
>
---------------------------------------------
Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
What payload will you have left if you carry 42 gallons of fuel?
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Bellach
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
That's about what I figure - I'll probably be lucky to get 42 gal. usable
out if my 4 so-called 12-gal. tanks. I do have the 12 gal., not 10 as I
previously said - I was mixed up at the time, thinking that you had the
newer tanks that are 15 gal. when actually you have the same old ones I do.
----- Original Message -----
From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:29 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Paul, the way XL tanks set tipped forwards and about three inches higher
out
> board I suspect the finger filter gets almost all the fuel. But from
bone dry
> the tank will hit the overflow at about 11 gallons, maybe a tad more.
Best to
> you, Bill
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
200 estimated.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:53 PM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"
<craig@craigandjean.com>
>
> What payload will you have left if you carry 42 gallons of fuel?
>
> -- Craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin
Bellach
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
>
> That's about what I figure - I'll probably be lucky to get 42 gal.
usable
> out if my 4 so-called 12-gal. tanks. I do have the 12 gal., not 10 as I
> previously said - I was mixed up at the time, thinking that you had the
> newer tanks that are 15 gal. when actually you have the same old ones I
do.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JAPhillipsGA@aol.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 7:29 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
> >
> > Paul, the way XL tanks set tipped forwards and about three inches
higher
> out
> > board I suspect the finger filter gets almost all the fuel. But from
> bone dry
> > the tank will hit the overflow at about 11 gallons, maybe a tad more.
> Best to
> > you, Bill
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: Wiring Question 601XL 0235 LYC |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: William Jeffries <vair601@yahoo.com>
Robin,
I would run a wire from the groud bus to the negative terminal that you would
establish at the motor mount. From the negative terminal at the motor mount
I would also use bonding straps to the fuselage, this will help eliminate radio
interference. Always remember that electricity flow in the path of least resistance,
so you want your ground buss to have a solid ground. Hope this helps,
Bill Jeffries
Robin Bellach <601zv@ritternet.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
Bill, I'm planning a similar installation. Am I correct in assuming that
when you ran the ground to bus that you also isolated jack from airframe and
eliminated the old ground?
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "kevinbonds" <kevinbonds@comcast.net>
It will be a while before I'm ready for them but, I started looking at wheel
kits tonight. Anyone have any wisdom to share about what to look for. I'm
wondering about the AZUSALITE wheels that are made of Zytel Nylon material.
They are very light weight. Anyone using them? The kits all seem to come
with drum brakes. Is there a disc brake system for these wheels? I checked
the archives already and found nothing on alternatives to Matco.
Kevin Bonds
Nashville TN
601XL Corvair powered; Plans building.
Empennage done; working on wings and engine.
<http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds> http://home.comcast.net/~kevinbonds
do not archive DO NOT ARCHIVE
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| Subject: | 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
We all know that all electric fuel meters can give wrong readings...
The only one I trust before every flight is this one:
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/fuelhawkfuelgauge.php
Got the Universal model ( part No. 13-00439) and I calibrated (in liters) ever
10 liters. Never fails. I also marked every estimated hour of fuel time.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
701 912S
Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne"
I'll be measuring the capacity of my 601XL tanks very carefully when I
calibrate my fuel gauges. I've got a three liter calibrated cylinder that
stands about 3 feet high. So I'll be pouring gas into my (dry) tanks three
liters at a time and entering the amount of fuel into my "poor man's" glass
panel.
http://www.mglavionics.co.za/ultraHXL.html
Presumably at the end of filling the tanks I will know their true capacity.
Then I will drain all the fuel out through the fuel lines, measure that and
know the usable capacity.
Good thing I don't smoke.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Bellach
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
Seems to me for CG purposes you only need be concerned with the actual
amount of fuel in the tank, and if you are the aircraft builder you are
responsible for knowing the actual capacity and usable capacity and ZAC's
estimates are moot. And speaking of capacity, I have four of the older ZAC
tanks, for which they claim 10 gal. each - what have you guys who are
farther along found to be the actual and usable capacities of those to be?
----- Original Message -----
From:
Subject: Zenith-List: 601XL Fuel Tank Capacity
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
>
> Dear Thread friends, anybody notice that the twelve gallon ZAC tanks for
the
> XL actually have a capacity of about eleven gallons ? Seems like 12
pounds or
> so forward of the CG missing might be something to be concerned about.
Best to
> you all, Bill
>
>
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