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1. 04:43 AM - Re: Battery location (Clive Richards)
2. 04:43 AM - Re: Battery location (Clive Richards)
3. 04:54 AM - CH 701 TRim Options (Charles Kyle)
4. 05:21 AM - Re: CH 701 TRim Options (Zodie Rocket)
5. 07:02 AM - Re: Cork padding (Bill Morelli)
6. 08:36 AM - Zodiac XL: Your Empty weight / Center of Gravity (Martin Pohl)
7. 12:55 PM - Re: Cork (Gpjann@AOL.COM)
8. 05:59 PM - Re: Cork padding (Bryan Martin)
9. 07:07 PM - Re: Cork padding (ron dewees)
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| Subject: | Re: Battery location |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk>
Hi John as you have the heaver battery it seems that you will be OK behind
the seat we have allowed for me as the pilot at 154 lbs which places it on
the forward limit OK. We have to submit a weight & balance form to our PFA
for approval before flight showing worst case forward & aft so we should be
OK.
Ray will consider reducing the weight at some time in the future
but at present has the standard starter & generator fitted due to cost.
Merry Christmas to you also Clive
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----- Original Message -----
From: "John anderson" <ande437@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery location
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "John anderson"
<ande437@bellsouth.net>
>
> Hi Clive,
> Empty weight on my plane is 699. I also have the 16 gallon header tank.
> Ln=19.25 and Lm=26.75. Forward CG is11.64 and aft CG is 16.1 with 20 pound
> battery behind passenger seat. Empty CG is 7.73. Pilot (me)weight is 220
> which encourages the forward location of the battery. Must be considerable
> difference in the weight of the 0200 and 0235. I have light weight starter
> and alternator.
> Merry Christmas,
> John
>
> Do not archive
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Battery location |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk>
Bob
This is the position recomended by ZAC & our PFA for the
Continental Engine. Also as far as I am
aware all PA28 s have the battery in the rear.
The engine could probably have been moved back a few inches but
we have used the ZAC drawings to make the engine mount. With the engine
moved back their would no space to fit the battery on the firewall if this
is what you are suggesting.
Clive
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery location
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
<shilocom@mcmsys.com>
>
> Clive. Just one heads up.. I know a lot of "experimental planes" move the
> Battery to the tail for CG purposes. BUT on certified airplanes this is
> generally not permitted because of inability to recover from spins, >
practice it's not done much on two place side by side airplanes. PS I
have
> 12 lbs of lead in the tail of one of my certified airplanes,,,but I don't
> like it and am very cautious of stalls and spins with that airplane. Bob
U.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clive Richards" <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Battery location
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Clive Richards"
> <stephen@crichards.flyer.co.uk>
> >
> > <ande437@bellsouth.net>
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > > I have a battery placement question. I am about finished with an
0235
> > installation in a 601HD. I believe ZAC suggests mounting it in the tail.
I thoughts?
> > > John
> > > Alabama
> > > Do not archive
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | CH 701 TRim Options |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle" <Phoenix3@cox.net>
Hi,
I have a basic question. I have reviewed the CH 701 drawings,
photoguides and website and do not find information of elevator trim
except for the factory electric option. I am ready to rivet the skin to
the elevator, but do not want to close in until I have all components in
place. I cannot find any information on factory manual trim or any
parts supplied with the tail kit for manual trim.
Can anyone provide me with info on what the trim options are? Also, is
the electric trim worth doing in terms of time and weight?
Except for this issue, the assembly is going well. Zenith makes good
components. Thanks to all and Happy New Year!
Chuck Kyle
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| Subject: | CH 701 TRim Options |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
There is no provision for manual trim, and the 701 never really needed
trim when using the lighter designs smaller powerplants. Now, with the
912's and heavier engines I would not be without it.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Kyle
Subject: Zenith-List: CH 701 TRim Options
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles Kyle" <Phoenix3@cox.net>
Hi,
I have a basic question. I have reviewed the CH 701 drawings,
photoguides and website and do not find information of elevator trim
except for the factory electric option. I am ready to rivet the skin to
the elevator, but do not want to close in until I have all components in
place. I cannot find any information on factory manual trim or any
parts supplied with the tail kit for manual trim.
Can anyone provide me with info on what the trim options are? Also, is
the electric trim worth doing in terms of time and weight?
Except for this issue, the assembly is going well. Zenith makes good
components. Thanks to all and Happy New Year!
Chuck Kyle
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12/23/2005
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12/23/2005
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Morelli" <billvt@together.net>
I never cared for the cork material for the fuel tank. So when I pulled my left
LE tank to have a leak repaired, I replaced the cork with some high density foam
that is used by crafters. It is 3/32" thick and comes in sheets that are ~
12 in x 18 in. I doubled it up to give a thickness of 3/16" using Scotch 777
to attach it to the tank.
The foam is impervious to fuel. I had done a short term test by palcing some in
gasoline for about 1 week prior to using it. The gas had no affect on the foam.
That test piece had remained in a jar of gasoline for over two years when
I finally got rid of it. It never did show any signs of deterioration from the
gasoline.
The foam comes in many colors and is very inexpensive. I purchased it at Michaels
Craft Store ( a national chain).
Anyway, if anyone wants to see some photos of my repaired tank covered with this
foam, let me know and I will e-mail you pictures. When I get a chance, I will
add these pictures to my web site.
Regards,
Bill (N812BM - 601HDS - Tri - Stratus (RAM Heads) - Vermont - 437.9 flight
hrs. - 593 landings
web site -> http://homepages.together.net/~billvt/
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| Subject: | Zodiac XL: Your Empty weight / Center of Gravity |
Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Martin Pohl" <mpohl@pohltec.ch>
Hi XL-builders and -pilots
What is your empty weight and center of gravity of your Zodiac XLs? Would be
nice to get some sort of listing here with information about flying XLs
including engine type/optional equipment and resulting empty weight and C/G.
Cheers
Martin Pohl, Switzerland
Zodiac XL QBK (Czech Aircraft Works)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
A good hardware sell thin cork by the foot.
Felt is also available, in different thickness, from hardware.
Might be a good idea to use insulation between the cork/felt, top and back
of Firewall.
GPJ
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| Subject: | Re: Cork padding |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
I found some cork gasket material at ACE hardware. As I recall, it came in
square sheets and I cut it into strips and stuck it on with carpet tape. I
used up all the cork Zenith sent with my fuel kit and needed a little bit
more to finish the job.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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on 12/25/05 12:37 PM, Gary A. Boothe at gboothe@calply.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gary A. Boothe" <gboothe@calply.com>
>
> What are you guys using for cork padding for the fuel tanks? The only thing I
> have found is the 1/8" thick drawer lining. Any ideas?
>
> Merry Christimas,
> Gary Boothe, Cool, Ca
> <gboothe@calply.com>
> 601HDSTD, WW Corvair Conv. - complete
> Tail Group - complete. Working on Wings...
>
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| Subject: | Re: Cork padding |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
I also got some cork material at an auto parts store but it's
impregnated with rubber and seems a bit more durable than just cork.
It's working fine so far-- 1 year
Ron DeWees
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Bryan Martin wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
>
>I found some cork gasket material at ACE hardware. As I recall, it came in
>square sheets and I cut it into strips and stuck it on with carpet tape. I
>used up all the cork Zenith sent with my fuel kit and needed a little bit
>more to finish the job.
>
>
>
>
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