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1. 02:33 AM - Re: Official Usage Guidelines (Rick Roberts)
2. 05:04 AM - scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (Doug Naylor)
3. 06:25 AM - Re: Right seat flying ? ()
4. 07:22 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. (Leo Gates)
5. 07:28 AM - Re: Tach RPM error (Larry Martin)
6. 07:40 AM - Re: Right seat flying ? (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
7. 07:52 AM - Re: Right seat flying ? (Leo Gates)
8. 08:01 AM - Re: Right seat flying ? (japhillipsga@aol.com)
9. 08:19 AM - Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (Brad Larson)
10. 08:33 AM - 701 battery location? (Zed Smith)
11. 08:36 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. (David X)
12. 08:38 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. (David X)
13. 08:40 AM - Shop size (John Hines)
14. 08:49 AM - Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (japhillipsga@aol.com)
15. 08:58 AM - Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (David X)
16. 09:07 AM - Re: 701 battery location? (Ron Crook)
17. 09:21 AM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (cgalley)
18. 09:22 AM - Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (Mike Fothergill)
19. 09:37 AM - Re: Right seat flying ? (Mitch Hodges)
20. 09:55 AM - Re: shop size (Zed Smith)
21. 09:58 AM - Re: Shop size (Paul Mulwitz)
22. 09:58 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 01/09/06 (Gig Giacona)
23. 10:18 AM - Flap actuator (601corvair)
24. 10:19 AM - Re: Re: shop size (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
25. 10:26 AM - Re: Shop size (David X)
26. 10:39 AM - Re: Shop size (Dave Covert)
27. 10:41 AM - Threaded Gas Filler Neck Sealer (Don Mountain)
28. 10:52 AM - Re: Flap actuator (lgingell)
29. 11:05 AM - Re: Flap actuator (N5SL)
30. 11:14 AM - Re: Flap actuator (Robin Bellach)
31. 11:53 AM - Re: 601 XL Autopilot? (Gig Giacona)
32. 11:55 AM - Re: Shop size (steveadams)
33. 12:47 PM - Re: Shop size (Larry McFarland)
34. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: 601 XL Autopilot? (Craig Payne)
35. 01:22 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect ()
36. 01:32 PM - Re: Shop size (David X)
37. 01:35 PM - Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (Larry McFarland)
38. 02:06 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (jim)
39. 02:16 PM - Info (Gpjann@aol.com)
40. 02:22 PM - Zodiac 601 (Gpjann@AOL.COM)
41. 02:27 PM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (Bryan Martin)
42. 02:37 PM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (ron dewees)
43. 02:43 PM - Re: Re: shop size (Bryan Martin)
44. 02:45 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (Craig Moore)
45. 02:56 PM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (Bryan Martin)
46. 03:11 PM - Re: Info (Craig Payne)
47. 03:20 PM - Re: Right seat flying (Maarten Versteeg)
48. 03:30 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect ()
49. 03:43 PM - Re: Re: shop size (Zodie Rocket)
50. 05:14 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (David Alberti)
51. 05:26 PM - Re: Info (Randy Stout)
52. 06:10 PM - Re: 701 battery location? (Ron Crook)
53. 06:17 PM - Re: Zodiac 601 (Randy Stout)
54. 06:20 PM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (Paul Moore)
55. 06:46 PM - Re: Re: Right seat flying (Paul Moore)
56. 07:01 PM - Re: Zodiac 601 (ron dewees)
57. 07:19 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (ron dewees)
58. 07:21 PM - Re: Zodiac 601 (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
59. 07:41 PM - Harley Question (Larry)
60. 08:05 PM - Re: Fuel tank sending units for 701 (MaresAlf2@aol.com)
61. 08:06 PM - Zenith plane tours (Zodie Rocket)
62. 09:03 PM - Re: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect (JOHN STARN)
63. 09:38 PM - Constant torque hose clamps (David X)
64. 10:09 PM - Re: Constant torque hose clamps (Bill Cardell)
65. 10:40 PM - Our Zenith 701 is in Airliners.net !!! Cant believe it! Great honor. (Gary Gower)
66. 10:55 PM - Re: Re: Shop size (Gary Gower)
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| Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guidelines |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Rick Roberts" <rick@n701rr.com>
Very nice upgrade! Thanks! :D
--------
Low Slow
Rick
www.n7001rr.com
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| Subject: | scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Naylor" <dugnaylor@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys,
Two quick questions:
#1 Really, how good is the Zodiac XL at relatively low and slow,
looking-at-the-ground-scenery type flying? i.e.-- is it pretty stable
flying at slow speeds (with some flaps), and how much can you really see
over the wings tightly strapped into those steeply reclined Lazy Boy-type
seats? I've had one short ride in the company's XL but it's hard to
remember the small details. --I'm trying to compare the Zodiac to a high
wing, semi-STOL design (Wittman Buttercup). I'm not interested in the 701
because of it's slow cruising speed.
#2 How hot can it get under that big bubble canopy in the summertime? Can
the little fresh air vents keep up with the sun rays?
Much Thanks,
Doug N.
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| Subject: | Re: Right seat flying ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <CLEONARD52@comcast.net>
INSTALL THE DUEL STICK OPTION AND FLY FROM EITHER SIDE. IF YOU CONFIGURE
THE PLANE TO FLY FROM THE RIGHT, YOU MAY DECREASE ITS VALUE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maarten Versteeg" <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
Subject: Zenith-List: Right seat flying ?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Maarten Versteeg
<maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
>
> Hello List,
>
> I am still getting ready to build a XL, reading list and
> archive but there is so much information on the list to
> digest. Hopefully I can start building somewhere this
> spring. I was recently offered a ride (thanks) and the 601xl
> flies great, the center stick felt very comfortable and the
> view was beautiful, in short I like the 601xl.
> A question concerning the control; I am used to write ATC
> info and other things down. If I would be flying in the left
> seat that would be hard (unless I have an autopilot). I like
> the center stick both from a simplicity point of view and
> control feels nice.
> Any thoughts about setting up the panel and pedals for right
> seat flying, or is this a silly thought. It would allow the
> pilot to control the plane left handed and the right hand
> would be free to control radio's and write ATC calls. Cockpit
> view is so good that flying left or right patterns wouldn't
> make much of a difference, any other concerns ?
>
> Regards,
> Maarten
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
The 3 W lamp is Optional. If none is connected, nothing is conneted to
the lamp circuit.
I have the regulator lamp output connected to a Radio Shack Relay. A
bright flashing red LED is connected to the normally closed relay
contacts, thru a dropping resistor. When starting the engine, the LED
starts flashing when Essential Power is turned on. When the engine
starts and there is output from the altinator, the LED goes off. The
LED is mounted on the panel, just above my throttle.
At 50 hours I had an altinator connection to the voltage regulator come
loose. I was in flight, on my way home from a short XC. The light got
my attention immediately and a quick glance at the ammeter verified no
charge. I was 15 mins. from home, so continued the flight.
Leo Gates
N601Z
Charles D wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Charles D" <charlesd1@telkomsa.net>
>
>Hi all,
>I may be wrong, but ....
>in my experience, the 3W 12V lamp is to limit the field current to the
>alternator. I don't think it would be wise to replace it with an LED.
>
>cheers, Charles Davis
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Tach RPM error |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Martin" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
I had a problem with my tack on my Harley engine. It read only half. I had to get a signal converter from www.datokadigital.com. A little expensive, $78, but it fixed the problem. Might be worth looking at.
--------
701 with a Harley, www.skyhawg.com
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| Subject: | Right seat flying ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
What value?
To explain...If you are going to build this thing to sell with =in the
firt year you mybe right...If you are going to keep it for a few I think
the value will taper off at an alarming rate no matter where you fly it
from.
Just my 2 cents
Frank
Do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
CLEONARD52@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Right seat flying ?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <CLEONARD52@comcast.net>
INSTALL THE DUEL STICK OPTION AND FLY FROM EITHER SIDE. IF YOU
CONFIGURE THE PLANE TO FLY FROM THE RIGHT, YOU MAY DECREASE ITS VALUE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Maarten Versteeg" <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
Subject: Zenith-List: Right seat flying ?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Maarten Versteeg
<maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
>
> Hello List,
>
> I am still getting ready to build a XL, reading list and
> archive but there is so much information on the list to
> digest. Hopefully I can start building somewhere this
> spring. I was recently offered a ride (thanks) and the 601xl
> flies great, the center stick felt very comfortable and the
> view was beautiful, in short I like the 601xl.
> A question concerning the control; I am used to write ATC
> info and other things down. If I would be flying in the left
> seat that would be hard (unless I have an autopilot). I like
> the center stick both from a simplicity point of view and
> control feels nice.
> Any thoughts about setting up the panel and pedals for right
> seat flying, or is this a silly thought. It would allow the
> pilot to control the plane left handed and the right hand
> would be free to control radio's and write ATC calls. Cockpit
> view is so good that flying left or right patterns wouldn't
> make much of a difference, any other concerns ?
>
> Regards,
> Maarten
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Right seat flying ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Leo Gates <leogates@allvantage.com>
My 2 cents. I do not understand all the concern about the "Y" stick. I
have a Taylorcraft BC12D with two wheels. Often, when folding a map,
playing with the GPS or jotting a note, I take both hands off the wheel
and fly with the rudders. In my CH601HDS I usually have my bride or a
neighbor/neighbor's wife/grandson/etc in the right seat. They can hold
the plane level for a min. or two. Otherwise I find no problem with
flying with my feet on the rudder pedals.
Chris' "Y" stick is outstanding for my money. Nothing between the legs
to contend with. I'm sure the installation is less complicated, and
lighter.
Leo Gates
N601Z
82+ hours
Maarten Versteeg wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Maarten Versteeg <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
>
>Hello List,
>
>
>A question concerning the control; I am used to write ATC
>info and other things down. If I would be flying in the left
>seat that would be hard (unless I have an autopilot). I like
>the center stick both from a simplicity point of view and
>control feels nice.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Right seat flying ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Maarten, an easier solution might be to install dual stick controls as opposed
to the unorthodox setup of having PIC on the right side. Remember, someday you
might want to sell your plane when ZAC comes out with a new "super XL" model
and who would purchase it ? FWIW Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis) <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Right seat flying ?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)"
<frank.hinde@hp.com>
You could certinly set it up for right seat flying no problem...Of
course most patterns are left and with a low wing plane you do not get
quite the visibilty but its not a big deal I don't think.
Like you I learned to fly control wheel in the left hand...I instantly
changed to stick in the righ no problem...Now with the RV I have to
change back again and I'm very nervous about going the other way...:)
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Maarten
Versteeg
Subject: Zenith-List: Right seat flying ?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Maarten Versteeg
--> <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
Hello List,
I am still getting ready to build a XL, reading list and archive but
there is so much information on the list to digest. Hopefully I can
start building somewhere this spring. I was recently offered a ride
(thanks) and the 601xl flies great, the center stick felt very
comfortable and the view was beautiful, in short I like the 601xl.
A question concerning the control; I am used to write ATC info and other
things down. If I would be flying in the left seat that would be hard
(unless I have an autopilot). I like the center stick both from a
simplicity point of view and control feels nice.
Any thoughts about setting up the panel and pedals for right seat
flying, or is this a silly thought. It would allow the pilot to control
the plane left handed and the right hand would be free to control
radio's and write ATC calls. Cockpit view is so good that flying left or
right patterns wouldn't make much of a difference, any other concerns ?
Regards,
Maarten
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| Subject: | Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
Does anyone have a reference for a DAR in MN,ND,SD?
I've been waiting on the one here in Fargo, ND for three months and cant
seem to get to the top of his priority list.
I have a friend that is just starting a RV-10 in Fergus Falls, MN that
is concerned for the same reason.
Brad.
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | 701 battery location? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
do not archive
Can anyone offer comment on possible CG problems in the following:
Standard 701 kit with standard 912 engine, standard ZAC wing tanks (10 gallons
per wing) and NOT using the ZAC-supplied header tank; no floats, skis, bomb doors,
arresting hook, onboard potty or food service.
The ZAC assembly photos (ZAC web site) plainly show the battery just behind the
right seat.
However.......some builder sites show a tail-mounted battery. Larry's excellent
site, for example.
Do some other engines (Harley or Subaru) weigh more, therefore requiring the extra
weight aft?
I'm 165 pounds, including headset and gimme cap, and would rarely ever have a passenger.
It's not too late to install a rear hatch, just more work.
Comments, gentlemen?
Thanks,
Zed/701/R912/90+% etc
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
One watt is one ampere of current flowing at one volt; therefore AMPS x
VOLTS = WATTS ... or .25A x 12V = 3W. If the bulb's secondary purpose is to
limit current between L and C terminals on the alternator, then we must not
exceed .25A when using an LED instead of a bulb.
As discussed previously, the LED - in series with a current limiting
resistor - draws 30mA (.03A) which is considerably less than a 3W bulb. The
LED is also an advantage because it is cheaper, brighter and more reliable.
This is why the LED is commonly used as a low voltage lamp instead of a 3W
incandescent bulb.
Sorry, Mr. Edison!
>Hi all,
>I may be wrong, but ....
>in my experience, the 3W 12V lamp is to limit the field current to the
>alternator. I don't think it would be wise to replace it with an LED.
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
I really like that idea! If the switch is on, but the light is not, check
the fuse.
>Putting in resistor for an LED is absolutely required. There are no
>filament bulbs in my panel at all, everything is LED on my 601HD.
>I have then on every switch, this way I know at a visual glance if a
>fuse has blown.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Hines" <John.Hines@craftontull.com>
I am about to begin my Zodiac XL project. I'm going to the workshop
next week and bringing the tail kit home with me. I don't have room for
anything else. I'm planning on building an 18 x 20 shop in the spring
so I have room to build the rest. Do you guys think that is big enough?
By my calculations I should be able to put it together and attach one
wing at a time and still walk around it. Any comments or suggestions
would be appreciated.
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Doug, like any low wing vs high wing the ground view suffers. The trade off is
safety in flight with the great view to the sides and above, etc. Whenever I want
to see something below I just point one wing up and one down and look out
the side and top. As to the Green House effect it is a real issue in summer and
the venting on the ground is marginal, but this summer in Mid Georgia after
take off and air could circulate it was not much of an issue. You do always have
to wear a hat for sun though and my wife hates hats. Big hair woman. I would
advise the larger air vent eyeballs. I plan to increase mine for more flow in
the near future. Best regards, Bill N505WP 601XL-3300w/DC
-----Original Message-----
From: Doug Naylor <dugnaylor@hotmail.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Naylor" <dugnaylor@hotmail.com>
Hi Guys,
Two quick questions:
#1 Really, how good is the Zodiac XL at relatively low and slow,
looking-at-the-ground-scenery type flying? i.e.-- is it pretty stable
flying at slow speeds (with some flaps), and how much can you really see
over the wings tightly strapped into those steeply reclined Lazy Boy-type
seats? I've had one short ride in the company's XL but it's hard to
remember the small details. --I'm trying to compare the Zodiac to a high
wing, semi-STOL design (Wittman Buttercup). I'm not interested in the 701
because of it's slow cruising speed.
#2 How hot can it get under that big bubble canopy in the summertime? Can
the little fresh air vents keep up with the sun rays?
Much Thanks,
Doug N.
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
Once in the air, the cabin cooling is not bad. On the taxiway, it can get really
hot in the summer - same as a piper. There are little circular rotating scoops
that you can install in the canopy to catch the prop wash when on the taxi.
--------
do not archive
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2502#2502
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| Subject: | 701 battery location? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Crook" <ronflys701@hotmail.com>
My battery is behind passenger seat I have no header tank in the front but I
do have a header tank closed off in the rear section of the baggage
compartment(10 litres) I also carry 90 liters 45 in each wing tank and also
fly with 2 up most of the time with no c of g problems.......Ron
>From: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: 701 battery location?
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:32:56 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>
>do not archive
>
>Can anyone offer comment on possible CG problems in the following:
>
>Standard 701 kit with standard 912 engine, standard ZAC wing tanks (10
>gallons per wing) and NOT using the ZAC-supplied header tank; no floats,
>skis, bomb doors, arresting hook, onboard potty or food service.
>
>The ZAC assembly photos (ZAC web site) plainly show the battery just behind
>the right seat.
>However.......some builder sites show a tail-mounted battery. Larry's
>excellent site, for example.
>
>Do some other engines (Harley or Subaru) weigh more, therefore requiring
>the extra weight aft?
>
>I'm 165 pounds, including headset and gimme cap, and would rarely ever have
>a passenger.
>
>It's not too late to install a rear hatch, just more work.
>
>Comments, gentlemen?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Zed/701/R912/90+% etc
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
If you are an EAA member call the Free EAA info line and ask for Joe Norris.
He might be able to give you the name of a DAR or put you in touch with some
one from your FSDO to do the inspection.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Larson" <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
Subject: Zenith-List: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>
> Does anyone have a reference for a DAR in MN,ND,SD?
>
> I've been waiting on the one here in Fargo, ND for three months and cant
> seem to get to the top of his priority list.
>
> I have a friend that is just starting a RV-10 in Fergus Falls, MN that
> is concerned for the same reason.
>
> Brad.
>
> Do Not Archive
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Mike Fothergill <mfothergill@sympatico.ca>
Hi;
Install a 12 volt computer fan in the bulkhead at the back of the
baggage shelf to exhaust some of the hot air. Also helps to defog the
bubble in cold weather.
Mike
CH-601HDS
UHS Spinners
japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
>
> Doug, like any low wing vs high wing the ground view suffers. The trade off is
safety in flight with the great view to the sides and above, etc. Whenever I
want to see something below I just point one wing up and one down and look out
the side and top. As to the Green House effect it is a real issue in summer
and the venting on the ground is marginal, but this summer in Mid Georgia after
take off and air could circulate it was not much of an issue. You do always
have to wear a hat for sun though and my wife hates hats. Big hair woman. I would
advise the larger air vent eyeballs. I plan to increase mine for more flow
in the near future. Best regards, Bill N505WP 601XL-3300w/DC
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Doug Naylor <dugnaylor@hotmail.com>
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith-List: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect
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> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Doug Naylor" <dugnaylor@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Two quick questions:
>
> #1 Really, how good is the Zodiac XL at relatively low and slow,
> looking-at-the-ground-scenery type flying? i.e.-- is it pretty stable
> flying at slow speeds (with some flaps), and how much can you really see
> over the wings tightly strapped into those steeply reclined Lazy Boy-type
> seats? I've had one short ride in the company's XL but it's hard to
> remember the small details. --I'm trying to compare the Zodiac to a high
> wing, semi-STOL design (Wittman Buttercup). I'm not interested in the 701
> because of it's slow cruising speed.
>
> #2 How hot can it get under that big bubble canopy in the summertime? Can
> the little fresh air vents keep up with the sun rays?
>
> Much Thanks,
>
> Doug N.
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| Subject: | Re: Right seat flying ? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mitch Hodges" <n601mh@hodges.info>
Or, you could do what I did. I planned for this from an early age, and became
left-handed!
Definitely, DO NOT ARCHIVE
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
do not archive
The First Rule of Physics is: "Junk expands to fill all available space".
Regardless of size, it still won't be large enough. Check the Boeing web site.....theirs
are full, too.
Every situation is different, but the first plane I built was in a 30 x 30. Thirty-two
foot wings went on okay sitting diagonally in the building, but had to
come off to get outside the ten-foot door. (Boat-in-the-basement syndrome)
If there is any way to enlarge the area I'd sure consider doing so.
Storage of finished parts (wings, etc) can also be a problem.
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/etc/90+%
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Paul Mulwitz <p.mulwitz@worldnet.att.net>
Hi John,
When it comes to workshop space, more is better.
Your dimensions might be OK, but it would be a tight fit at
best. Consider how difficult it would be to walk around your
workbench which must be 12 long and 4 feet wide with wing parts
hanging over some of the edges. Add some other "furniture" for tool
storage and who knows what else, and it gets to be very difficult to
move around.
If you can make your shop bigger, I am sure you will find a way to
use the extra space.
Paul
XL wings
do not archive
At 08:43 AM 1/10/2006, you wrote:
>I am about to begin my Zodiac XL project. I'm going to the workshop
>next week and bringing the tail kit home with me. I don't have room for
>anything else. I'm planning on building an 18 x 20 shop in the spring
>so I have room to build the rest. Do you guys think that is big enough?
>By my calculations I should be able to put it together and attach one
>wing at a time and still walk around it. Any comments or suggestions
>would be appreciated.
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Paul Mulwitz
32013 NE Dial Road
Camas, WA 98607
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| Subject: | Re: Zenith-List Digest: 22 Msgs - 01/09/06 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
There is nothing that says you have to fly from the left seat. If you want
to set your plane up for right seat go for it. You're right if you are
flying in an area where you have to contact ATC and write stuff down the
center stick and left seat just won't work for a right hander.
I'm going with the duel stick option and I did the majority of the work that
is different from the center stick in one weekend.
>
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> Time: 11:35:51 AM PST US
> From: Maarten Versteeg <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
> Subject: Zenith-List: Right seat flying ?
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Maarten Versteeg
> <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
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> Hello List,
>
> I am still getting ready to build a XL, reading list and
> archive but there is so much information on the list to
> digest. Hopefully I can start building somewhere this
> spring. I was recently offered a ride (thanks) and the 601xl
> flies great, the center stick felt very comfortable and the
> view was beautiful, in short I like the 601xl.
> A question concerning the control; I am used to write ATC
> info and other things down. If I would be flying in the left
> seat that would be hard (unless I have an autopilot). I like
> the center stick both from a simplicity point of view and
> control feels nice.
> Any thoughts about setting up the panel and pedals for right
> seat flying, or is this a silly thought. It would allow the
> pilot to control the plane left handed and the right hand
> would be free to control radio's and write ATC calls. Cockpit
> view is so good that flying left or right patterns wouldn't
> make much of a difference, any other concerns ?
>
> Regards,
> Maarten
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: 601corvair <airvair601@yahoo.com>
Ok folks I am about to open a can of worms with this question and I do it as
a last resort and with several caveats. I need some info about the flap actuator
on the XL. My partner and I are HDS builders who, because and for no other
good reason than we WANT to, are designing and installing flaps on our HDS.
We have designs for electrical and mechanical instillations and are assessing
the financial and weight costs for both.
I talked to ZAC about parts numbers and costs ( because this is not on the HDS
plans I have). It is possible that I did not clearly articulate what I was
asking, but I was told that the flaps actuator weights 5 lbs, is part number
D1450036-3 and costs $584.85. Does this track with what you KNOW to be true?
If anyone knows the exact weight I would appreciate transmitting this information.
It would also be helpful to know how long it is, what the travel is, an
how much force it can generate. I am assuming it comes with range limit switches
etc. Are you plans builders getting this part from ZAC? I have found
some aluminum ones that are lighter than 5 lbs and would leave my wallet heavier?
Thanks for your help. phill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Built mine in a 24 * 24...Seemed plenty big enough for the HDS.
Frank
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[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zed Smith
Subject: Zenith-List: re: shop size
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
do not archive
The First Rule of Physics is: "Junk expands to fill all available
space".
Regardless of size, it still won't be large enough. Check the Boeing
web site.....theirs are full, too.
Every situation is different, but the first plane I built was in a 30 x
30. Thirty-two foot wings went on okay sitting diagonally in the
building, but had to come off to get outside the ten-foot door.
(Boat-in-the-basement syndrome)
If there is any way to enlarge the area I'd sure consider doing so.
Storage of finished parts (wings, etc) can also be a problem.
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/etc/90+%
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
[Idea] If you can manage to rent a 40 foot hanger, that would be an alternate solution.
The rent might even be less than the building costs of your shop (depending
on where you live) ... or if you live on a filed, build the hanger instead.
Building in a hanger also solves the problem of transport and reassembly when it's
time to test fly it.
I have my 601XL in a 40 foot hanger. There is a 15x5 open section on each side
of the plane and another 15x6 open section behind the tail. I keep my benches,
tools etc in these sections.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Covert" <dave@thecoverts.com>
How tall is the building? I plan on hoisting my finished parts up into the
rafters so as to conserve floor and wall space. It would help if you could
get things up out of the way.
Dave
701-wanna-be
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Hines
Subject: Zenith-List: Shop size
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Hines"
--> <John.Hines@craftontull.com>
I am about to begin my Zodiac XL project. I'm going to the workshop next
week and bringing the tail kit home with me. I don't have room for anything
else. I'm planning on building an 18 x 20 shop in the spring so I have room
to build the rest. Do you guys think that is big enough?
By my calculations I should be able to put it together and attach one wing
at a time and still walk around it. Any comments or suggestions would be
appreciated.
Thanks,
John
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| Subject: | Threaded Gas Filler Neck Sealer |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I am getting ready to rivet up the top skin on my 601 XL wing, and wonder what
to use as a sealer on the gas tank screw in filler neck cap threads. I am
planning to rivet the top and nose skins on, then put some sort of sealer on
the gas tank internal threads and on the screw in gas cap piece, and screw it
in tight against the nose skin. But I am not sure what to buy, or what not
to buy for this application. It probably needs to be something that is semi-ridged
when set up, and gasoline proof of course. And won't leak. The filler
neck appears to just screw in until it contacts the skin, and not all the
way down to some sort of mating flare or something that would seal it up.
Don
601 XL, tail done, working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "lgingell" <lgingell@matrix-logic.com>
That sounds like the beast. I got my kit from ZAC, and it included a flap motor
that had a sticker "Weight: 5lbs" on it, along with limit switches. I believe
this same thing may have been/is used on Cessna's too.
It is an "aircraft part" rather than a multipurpose motor, which would explain
the cost.
Feels like it weighs more than the rest of my airframe.
I just looked at my parts list, and it is D1450036-3.
..lance (who barley uses his flaps...)
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http://lancegingell.com/plane.asp
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Phill:
I'm a plans builder and used a Warner Electrak 1,
linear actuator that seems to work well although I
haven't made my first flight yet. The following
series of pictures should help you see what I did as
well as show a part number you can read from the
photograph. It was pretty simple to get the geometry
right so that it uses up all the travel. I prefer
this actuator over the one ZAC uses because it has
internal limit switches. This is why you want it to
use up all the travel in both directions. It goes to
full travel in about 6 seconds.
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_21_04_Flaps.JPG
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_21_04_Flaps2.JPG
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_27_04_Actuator.JPG
http://www.cooknwithgas.com/11_17_04_Actuator.JPG
I have other photographs posted on my "Fuselage" page
of this installation. Send me a private email if you
have further questions.
Scott Laughlin
601XL / Corvair
www.cooknwithgas.com
working on FWF
--- 601corvair <airvair601@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: 601corvair
> <airvair601@yahoo.com>
>
> Ok folks I am about to open a can of worms with
> this question and I do it as a last resort and with
> several caveats. I need some info about the flap
> actuator on the XL.
> Are you plans builders getting this part from ZAC?
> I have found some aluminum ones that are lighter
> than 5 lbs and would leave my wallet heavier?
>
> Thanks for your help. phill
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flap actuator |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
The XL actuator I received from ZAC has that part number, is a Commercial
Aircraft Products item, and weighs 71.1 ounces.
----- Original Message -----
From: "601corvair" <airvair601@yahoo.com>
To: "Zenith list" <Zenith-List@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 12:16 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Flap actuator
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: 601corvair <airvair601@yahoo.com>
>
> Ok folks I am about to open a can of worms with this question and I do
it as a last resort and with several caveats. I need some info about the
flap actuator on the XL. My partner and I are HDS builders who, because and
for no other good reason than we WANT to, are designing and installing
flaps on our HDS. We have designs for electrical and mechanical
instillations and are assessing the financial and weight costs for both.
>
> I talked to ZAC about parts numbers and costs ( because this is not on
the HDS plans I have). It is possible that I did not clearly articulate
what I was asking, but I was told that the flaps actuator weights 5 lbs, is
part number D1450036-3 and costs $584.85. Does this track with what you
KNOW to be true? If anyone knows the exact weight I would appreciate
transmitting this information. It would also be helpful to know how long it
is, what the travel is, an how much force it can generate. I am assuming it
comes with range limit switches etc. Are you plans builders getting this
part from ZAC? I have found some aluminum ones that are lighter than 5 lbs
and would leave my wallet heavier?
>
> Thanks for your help. phill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | re: 601 XL Autopilot? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Tony, do you have any photos of the servos mounted in your plane? I'm thinking
I'll go with the Trio and would like to see the installation.
tonyplane(at)bellsouth.ne wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "T. Graziano"
>
> I have a Trio EZ Pilot II in my XL. It receives input from my Garmin 295.
> Works great. No problems in installation. Simple hookup to the Garmin NMEA
> 0183 data stream. It does not have altituude hold. I use minor throttle
> adjustments and/or trim to hold altitude.
>
> Tony Graziano
> 601XL N493TG
>
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "steveadams" <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com>
While more space is always better, your shop should be plenty big enough. I built
my CH640 using a single bay of a 3 car garage, and that included having to
keep my QB fuselage in there for the whole build. I had to roll it outside to
fit the wings, but otherwise, it was easily done. For storage I used wall and
ceiling space. I would discourage trying to build it in a hanger, unless the airport
is across the street. It is often easy to find 20-30 minutes here and there
to work on the plane if it's right outside your door, which really adds up
and speeds the project along. If your plane is at the airport, you'll spend
a lot of unproductive time going back and forth, and need a considerable block
of time available to justify going over to do some work. Make it as convenient
and comfortable as possible to work on the plane, and you will finish it in
a reasonable time. Just my 2 cents.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
John,
That's plenty of space for building, but the key is organizing the space
you use so that parts and assemblies
don't overwhelm your area. Practice a tight inventory, good clean up
and white surfaced work tables etc.
Overhead lighting is real important. I plans built my 601HDS in a
double garage, but the wife's car had to fit
inside every night. Put your table(s) on casters.
Good luck,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
do not archive
John Hines wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Hines" <John.Hines@craftontull.com>
>
>I am about to begin my Zodiac XL project. I'm going to the workshop
>next week and bringing the tail kit home with me. I don't have room for
>anything else. I'm planning on building an 18 x 20 shop in the spring
>so I have room to build the rest. Do you guys think that is big enough?
>By my calculations I should be able to put it together and attach one
>wing at a time and still walk around it. Any comments or suggestions
>would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>John
>
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| Subject: | re: 601 XL Autopilot? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Somebody (possibly Tony) sent me some pictures of servos in a 601 but now I
can't find them. They may have been for a different AP but that doesn't
matter because the servos of the different manufactures are roughly laid out
the same. If any one has pictures e-mail them to me and I'll put then in the
photo archive.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gig Giacona
Subject: Zenith-List: re: 601 XL Autopilot?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Tony, do you have any photos of the servos mounted in your plane? I'm
thinking I'll go with the Trio and would like to see the installation.
tonyplane(at)bellsouth.ne wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "T. Graziano"
>
> I have a Trio EZ Pilot II in my XL. It receives input from my Garmin 295.
> Works great. No problems in installation. Simple hookup to the Garmin
> NMEA
> 0183 data stream. It does not have altituude hold. I use minor
> throttle adjustments and/or trim to hold altitude.
>
> Tony Graziano
> 601XL N493TG
>
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601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
Most folks keep the canopy slightly open until just before takeoff in warm weather
to get a little more air in the cockpit.
There is a gizmo I've seen in a friends RV7-A which is a retractable sunshade that
works on a track mounted along the center line of the canopy with pressure
sensitive adhesive. We slide it all the way back for full visibility and extend
it forward as much as needed at cruise altitude. I'm going to that in my 601XL
because Louisiana is way too close to the sun.
Ed
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
steveadams wrote:
> I would discourage trying to build it in a hanger, unless the airport is across
the street.
> do not archive
It kinda depends on the circumstance.
Although my plane is compelted, there is always something else I want to do to
it or to do maintenenace etc. I picked a hanger near my job so that I could stop
by after work for a few hours away from the wife. She's very supportive of
my flying, but if I'm home, she ownes me. [Rolling Eyes]
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Doug,
I'd stay with the low wing as visibility is excellent in the 601s. Last year I
flew off the 40 hours and there were just a few days that reached mid 90s. So
long as I wore a ball cap and sunglasses, things were mostly comfortable.
On a couple of days, I found myself overheated because of the intense humidity
and I'd not been drinking enough water. The canopy does allow a lot of heat to
be radiated in, so wear the hat and do spend some time putting vents in or below
the panel that you can focus air toward your face. Try to fly a bit higher
when it becomes unbearably warm to take in cooler air. It will really make a
difference.
These links show my $2. vents and they work great.
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/outletvent.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/freshairassy.gif
http://www.macsmachine.com/images/largeassembly2/full/NACAvent.gif
good luck,
Larry
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Larry McFarland - 601HDS - Stratus
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2622#2622
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim" <jim@pellien.com>
Do you have a web URL where I could go and see what this gizmo looks like?
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
jim@sportsplanes.com
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: <dredmoody@cox.net>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
>
>Most folks keep the canopy slightly open until just before takeoff in warm weather
to get a little more air in the cockpit.
>
>There is a gizmo I've seen in a friends RV7-A which is a retractable sunshade
that works on a track mounted along the center line of the canopy with pressure
sensitive adhesive. We slide it all the way back for full visibility and extend
it forward as much as needed at cruise altitude. I'm going to that in my 601XL
because Louisiana is way too close to the sun.
>
>Ed
>
>> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
Ref: Zodiac 601HDS
Corvair Power
Warp Drive two blade prop
I'm looking for anyone who is using 601/Corvair/2 blade WD prop and would
like to gather info on pitch setting you are using or have used along with
results.
Would appreciate any info you can provide.
Greg Jannakos
gpjann@aol.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
I am located in the greater Atlanta, Ga area and would like to find out if
anyone is interested in having a gathering of anyone interested in the Zodiac
601 airplanes.
The main purpose of the gathering is to meet and exchange information.
Please contact me if you are interested.
Greg Jannakos
770-277-1637
gpjann@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Go to :
http://makeashorterlink.com/?T2491227C
Click on the "DAR directory" link. This will download a PDF file with a list
of DARs by category (manufacturing or maintenance) and by state within each
category. Look for a DAR in either category with Function 46, which is
Experimental Amateur Built.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
on 1/10/06 11:19 AM, Brad Larson at blarson@meridianhouse.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>
> Does anyone have a reference for a DAR in MN,ND,SD?
>
> I've been waiting on the one here in Fargo, ND for three months and cant
> seem to get to the top of his priority list.
>
> I have a friend that is just starting a RV-10 in Fergus Falls, MN that
> is concerned for the same reason.
>
> Brad.
>
> Do Not Archive
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Brad,
Don't want to start another feud here but have you considered applying
to the nearest FSDO of the FAA? My application took about a month from
application to inspection and cost nothing. Most DARs are getting $400
to $500 now. Most builders that use them justify the expense because
DARs are able to come out quickly, but that is clearly not your experience.
Ron DeWees
do not archive
Brad Larson wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>
>Does anyone have a reference for a DAR in MN,ND,SD?
>
>I've been waiting on the one here in Fargo, ND for three months and cant
>seem to get to the top of his priority list.
>
>I have a friend that is just starting a RV-10 in Fergus Falls, MN that
>is concerned for the same reason.
>
>Brad.
>
>Do Not Archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: re: shop size |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
I built my zodiac in an 8 1/2' by 24' cargo trailer parked in a outdoor
storage lot. I used a long extension cord to tap power from one to the
storage buildings 30 yards away. I had just enough power to run my lights,
the battery charger for my drill and a small air compressor for the rivet
puller. I built the first wing and then hung it on one side wall of the
trailer then built the other wing. After I finished the wings, I hauled them
up north to my dad's garage and built a shelf along the back wall to store
them. Then I towed the trailer back down to the lot and started working on
the fuselage. I did the final assembly at a rented hangar at the airport
down the road from my dad's house. I think I'd get lost in an 18 X 20
workshop. :)
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "John Hines"
<John.Hines(at)craftontull.com>
>
> I am about to begin my Zodiac XL project. I'm going to the workshop
> next week and bringing the tail kit home with me. I don't have room for
> anything else. I'm planning on building an 18 x 20 shop in the spring
> so I have room to build the rest. Do you guys think that is big enough?
> By my calculations I should be able to put it together and attach one
> wing at a time and still walk around it. Any comments or suggestions
> would be appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
Jim,
http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1136932743-0-756&browse=airframe&product=koger-shade
Craig Moore
A&P
701 Builder wannabe
--- jim <jim@pellien.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim"
> <jim@pellien.com>
>
> Do you have a web URL where I could go and see what
> this gizmo looks like?
>
> Jim
>
> Jim Pellien
> Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> www.MASPL.com
> 703-313-4818
> jim@sportsplanes.com
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message
> ----------------------------------
> From: <dredmoody@cox.net>
> Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:18:20 -0500
>
> >--> Zenith-List message posted by:
> <dredmoody@cox.net>
> >
> >Most folks keep the canopy slightly open until just
> before takeoff in warm weather to get a little more
> air in the cockpit.
> >
> >There is a gizmo I've seen in a friends RV7-A which
> is a retractable sunshade that works on a track
> mounted along the center line of the canopy with
> pressure sensitive adhesive. We slide it all the way
> back for full visibility and extend it forward as
> much as needed at cruise altitude. I'm going to that
> in my 601XL because Louisiana is way too close to
> the sun.
> >
> >Ed
> >
> >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: scenery flying/
> greenhouse effect
> >
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
My local FSDO told me it would be at least 90 days before they could even
schedule an inspection. I called a DAR and he flew up in his RV-6 about
three weeks later for the inspection. It cost me $350.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
on 1/10/06 5:36 PM, ron dewees at rdewees@mindspring.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
>
> Brad,
> Don't want to start another feud here but have you considered applying
> to the nearest FSDO of the FAA? My application took about a month from
> application to inspection and cost nothing. Most DARs are getting $400
> to $500 now. Most builders that use them justify the expense because
> DARs are able to come out quickly, but that is clearly not your experience.
>
> Ron DeWees
>
> do not archive
>
> Brad Larson wrote:
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>>
>> Does anyone have a reference for a DAR in MN,ND,SD?
>>
>> I've been waiting on the one here in Fargo, ND for three months and cant
>> seem to get to the top of his priority list.
>>
>> I have a friend that is just starting a RV-10 in Fergus Falls, MN that
>> is concerned for the same reason.
>>
>> Brad.
>>
>> Do Not Archive
>>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
How about asking William Wynne? He is flying exactly that.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gpjann@aol.com
Subject: Zenith-List: Info
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
Ref: Zodiac 601HDS
Corvair Power
Warp Drive two blade prop
I'm looking for anyone who is using 601/Corvair/2 blade WD prop and would
like to gather info on pitch setting you are using or have used along with
results.
Would appreciate any info you can provide.
Greg Jannakos
gpjann@aol.com
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| Subject: | Re: Right seat flying |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Maarten Versteeg <maarten.versteeg@swri.org>
Thanks for the responses and ideas, it didn't immediately
bring a solution but gave me more aspects to consider.
I still have more than enough time to consider but it is
not something you can easily change once a decision is
taken.
- I am happy that no major problems were raised, it will
certainly take some time getting used to but it should
not be much different from learning to fly a different
plane.
- I don't have so much a concern about the Y stick, as
said, I liked the feel of the center stick and it was
very easy to lay down my arm and control the plane with
small movements in a relaxed way.
- Having a knee pad is probably even simpler than in a
cessna where it always conflicts with joke movements.
- I understand that in most cases you can just let the
plane fly itself, but ATC always seems to manage to
give information when there are thermals around or when
I am maneuvering, so I would like to keep my hands close
if not on the stick.
- I like the idea of an autopilot but I am not sure if
that would be high enough on the priority list to be
installed immediately, it may have to wait a little.
- I understand that resale value may be important, but I
plan on flying the plane and only by building your own
plane you have the unique possibility to make it fit
your preferences.
Again thanks for the ideas,
Maarten
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: <dredmoody@cox.net>
Yep, that's the device. Thanks for the info.
Ed
>
> From: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
> Date: 2006/01/10 Tue PM 05:43:19 EST
> To: zenith-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Re: Zenith-List: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
>
> Jim,
>
> http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1136932743-0-756&browse=airframe&product=koger-shade
>
> Craig Moore
> A&P
> 701 Builder wannabe
>
> --- jim <jim@pellien.com> wrote:
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "jim"
> > <jim@pellien.com>
> >
> > Do you have a web URL where I could go and see what
> > this gizmo looks like?
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > Jim Pellien
> > Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
> > www.MASPL.com
> > 703-313-4818
> > jim@sportsplanes.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original Message
> > ----------------------------------
> > From: <dredmoody@cox.net>
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 16:18:20 -0500
> >
> > >--> Zenith-List message posted by:
> > <dredmoody@cox.net>
> > >
> > >Most folks keep the canopy slightly open until just
> > before takeoff in warm weather to get a little more
> > air in the cockpit.
> > >
> > >There is a gizmo I've seen in a friends RV7-A which
> > is a retractable sunshade that works on a track
> > mounted along the center line of the canopy with
> > pressure sensitive adhesive. We slide it all the way
> > back for full visibility and extend it forward as
> > much as needed at cruise altitude. I'm going to that
> > in my 601XL because Louisiana is way too close to
> > the sun.
> > >
> > >Ed
> > >
> > >> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: scenery flying/
> > greenhouse effect
> > >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Make the ceiling as high as possible. This allows for easier movement of
larger pieces and for hanging storage of flying surfaces during fuselage
construction.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Zed Smith
Subject: Zenith-List: re: shop size
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
do not archive
The First Rule of Physics is: "Junk expands to fill all available
space".
Regardless of size, it still won't be large enough. Check the Boeing
web site.....theirs are full, too.
Every situation is different, but the first plane I built was in a 30 x
30. Thirty-two foot wings went on okay sitting diagonally in the
building, but had to come off to get outside the ten-foot door.
(Boat-in-the-basement syndrome)
If there is any way to enlarge the area I'd sure consider doing so.
Storage of finished parts (wings, etc) can also be a problem.
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/etc/90+%
--
1/10/2006
--
1/10/2006
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
As an aside to this issue Plexiglas does not block any of the UV rays as
glass will. Last spring I found myself quite red after a four hour jaunt
through clear blue sky's. Now I pack sunscreen, especially in early spring.
I also installed a Koger sunshade on the canopy this last fall.
Dave 601-HD 912ULS
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
........ Last year I flew off the 40 hours and there were just a few days
that reached mid 90s. So long as I wore a ball cap and sunglasses, things
were mostly comfortable.
On a couple of days, I found myself overheated because of the intense
humidity and I'd not been drinking enough water. The canopy does allow a lot
of heat to be radiated in, so wear the hat and do spend some time putting
vents in or below the panel that you can focus air toward your face. Try to
fly a bit higher when it becomes unbearably warm to take in cooler air. It
will really make a difference.
_
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" <n282rs@earthlink.net>
Greg
I like mine set at 8.5 degrees at the tips. That allows me to spin it at
3400 rpm. Max speed: 122 MPH, cruise @3100 RPM: 107 MPH
ROC: 1000 FPM. My prop is a 64" Warp
Randy Stout
n282rs"at"earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
> [Original Message]
> From: <Gpjann@aol.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 1/10/2006 4:15:47 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Info
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
>
> Ref: Zodiac 601HDS
> Corvair Power
> Warp Drive two blade prop
>
> I'm looking for anyone who is using 601/Corvair/2 blade WD prop and would
> like to gather info on pitch setting you are using or have used along
with
> results.
> Would appreciate any info you can provide.
>
> Greg Jannakos
> gpjann@aol.com
>
>
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| Subject: | 701 battery location? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Ron Crook" <ronflys701@hotmail.com>
Here something to ponder?
>From: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>Reply-To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>To: zenith-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Zenith-List: 701 battery location?
>Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2006 10:32:56 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
>
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
>
>do not archive
>
>Can anyone offer comment on possible CG problems in the following:
>
>Standard 701 kit with standard 912 engine, standard ZAC wing tanks (10
>gallons per wing) and NOT using the ZAC-supplied header tank; no floats,
>skis, bomb doors, arresting hook, onboard potty or food service.
>
>The ZAC assembly photos (ZAC web site) plainly show the battery just behind
>the right seat.
>However.......some builder sites show a tail-mounted battery. Larry's
>excellent site, for example.
>
>Do some other engines (Harley or Subaru) weigh more, therefore requiring
>the extra weight aft?
>
>I'm 165 pounds, including headset and gimme cap, and would rarely ever have
>a passenger.
>
>It's not too late to install a rear hatch, just more work.
>
>Comments, gentlemen?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Zed/701/R912/90+% etc
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" <n282rs@earthlink.net>
I was wondering about a similar deal only a Zenith gathering, not just a
601 gathering. Modeled after the gatherings that the KR people have. I
didn't want to bring it up because I have too much going on in my life to
be able to sponsor one. It requires several dedicated people to put one of
these things on. It also requires donations to fund it, especially to get
it started.
The KR guys nominate and vote on a place to meet around the same time every
year. I went to one in Perry OK back in 97 (I think). They had someone
showing how to do fiberglass layups, someone assembling VW engines, another
explaining flight testing,....etc. Those with flying airplanes would
usually do demo flights. Saturday night there is normally a banquet.
We have the facillites at San Geronimo (8t8) to hold such a thing...EAA
clubhouse w/kitchen, camping, super large grill/smoker, and at least one
hangar (assuming my hangar mate goes along). Like I said I can't host the
thing. But if you are going to have one in Atlanta, spit out a date, so I
can put it on my vacation schedule. Maybe I can make it.
Randy Stout
n282rs"at"earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
> [Original Message]
> From: <Gpjann@aol.com>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 1/10/2006 4:21:34 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Zodiac 601
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
>
> I am located in the greater Atlanta, Ga area and would like to find out
if
> anyone is interested in having a gathering of anyone interested in the
Zodiac
> 601 airplanes.
> The main purpose of the gathering is to meet and exchange information.
> Please contact me if you are interested.
> Greg Jannakos
> 770-277-1637
> gpjann@aol.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Go here
http://www.faa.gov/other_visit/aviation_industry/designees_delegations/desig
nee_types/dar/
At the bottom there is a link to the DAR directory
Paul
XL - O200
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| Subject: | Re: Right seat flying |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Paul Moore" <pmoore505@msn.com>
Most of the popular intercoms have limited digital recording add-ons for
catching clearances and directions from ATC. Or, a good digital recorder
weighing a few ounces and able to record for hours at a time only costs a
hundred bucks or so. Both much easier than dealing with a RH setup.
Paul
Do Not Archive
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Greg,
Count me in on the meeting. I would love to see more folks gather to
chat about the 601 series of planes and swap ideas. We have a local
Yahoo website set up for greater Atlanta 601 builders or flyers.
It's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/601_HD-HDS/ Come join us!
I think I know of at least a couple more 601's in the area and others
that are under construction.
Thanks for the invite.
Ron DeWees
do not archive
Gpjann@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
>
>I am located in the greater Atlanta, Ga area and would like to find out if
>anyone is interested in having a gathering of anyone interested in the Zodiac
>601 airplanes.
>The main purpose of the gathering is to meet and exchange information.
>Please contact me if you are interested.
>Greg Jannakos
>770-277-1637
>gpjann@aol.com
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
I had the same problem flying last summer in my HDS and am "follicle
challenged" north of my ears so I was very sensitive to cutting down the
heat/UV/ and glare. I went to the local Pep Boy's parts store and paid
about $5 for a pair of sun screens that are attached with suction cups
on the corners. They are a black mesh of some sort and the frame is
wire. You just wad them up and they will fit in a small space as long
as you can confine them. You can look thru them easily and I would
estimate that the glare is cut by 30% or more. you can remove or
reposition them easily and throw them away after the hot season passes
if they are too dirty. I guess the dimensions are something like 8X14
inches and two of them cover a lot of the overhead canopy. Worked for me!
Ron
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David Alberti wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David Alberti" <daberti@sbcglobal.net>
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>As an aside to this issue Plexiglas does not block any of the UV rays as
>glass will. Last spring I found myself quite red after a four hour jaunt
>through clear blue sky's. Now I pack sunscreen, especially in early spring.
>I also installed a Koger sunshade on the canopy this last fall.
>
>Dave 601-HD 912ULS
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>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
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>........ Last year I flew off the 40 hours and there were just a few days
>that reached mid 90s. So long as I wore a ball cap and sunglasses, things
>were mostly comfortable.
>
>On a couple of days, I found myself overheated because of the intense
>humidity and I'd not been drinking enough water. The canopy does allow a lot
>of heat to be radiated in, so wear the hat and do spend some time putting
>vents in or below the panel that you can focus air toward your face. Try to
>fly a bit higher when it becomes unbearably warm to take in cooler air. It
>will really make a difference.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Greg, sounds like a good idea. We have three at Thomsaton (XL, HD, HDS) I am
sure a few fellows would be interested, Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry" <lrm01@centurytel.net>
BlankThe question below was e-mailed to me by Tracy Smith. He has AOL, I could
not respond, AOL blocked me. So here is the question(s) and my answer. Hope
you don't mind Tracy, but you really need to trash AOL, it sucks. You probably
miss a lot of e-mails, they, AOL, Earthlink and another one, I can't remember
the third one, were rated by computer magazine a while back as the worst three.
They are too zealous with their spam controls. That's not my opinion,
it's what the magazine said. Anyway, that's why you didn't get an answer, I answer
all my e-mails.
QUESTIONS
I have a question regarding the Harley installation. Being an Evo owner (1987
Harley Tour Glide) I'm very familiar with the Motor Company and the Twin-Cam.
My question is what i see as a lack of redundancy in the HD ignition system.
There is ONE hall-effect pickup, one processor, etc. This scares me a bit.
Did you or Brett do anything to address this? I was at Sun & Fun and this question
was carefully sidestepped along with a lack of carb heat on his demo installation
(NOT the 601XL installation that he sold).
Another question: would this installation lend itself to an Ivoporp electrically-adjustable
prop? The Corvair I am also looking at will NOT.
MY ANSWER.
To the best of my knowledge there is no dual ignition available. It doesn't worry
me. It is extremely rare for one of the new ignition systems to fail. When
and if they do fail, they just don't start. I've never seen one fail while
running. You don't need carb heat, the carb sits between and a little behind
the cylinders. It get all the heat it needs. Can't address the prop thing.
I know nothing about it
Larry Martin, www.skyhawg.com
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| Subject: | Re: Fuel tank sending units for 701 |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MaresAlf2@aol.com
Hi Bill Am building A 701 Plan on aux . gas . send an address and ship
cost for two senders AlfPeterson 2112 Zeno Pl Venice Calif 90291
_Maresalf2@aol.com_ (mailto:Maresalf2@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Zenith plane tours |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
We have actually been planning this very thing, plus a one week tour
with firm departures and arrival airports, travel at your own speed. In
other words 640's arrange the parking and fuel and campsites at the
airport, plus go to town for the food run, 601's prepare dinner, 801's
setup the camping site with all the gear they haul and the 701's do the
dishes after they touchdown to a hot meal!
But unfortunately we are unable to do it this year. But keep the ideas
coming for such an adventure.
Mark Townsend
Can-Zac Aviation Ltd.
president@can-zacaviation.com
www.can-zacaviation.com
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" <n282rs@earthlink.net>
I was wondering about a similar deal only a Zenith gathering, not just a
601 gathering. Modeled after the gatherings that the KR people have. I
didn't want to bring it up because I have too much going on in my life
to
be able to sponsor one. It requires several dedicated people to put one
of
these things on. It also requires donations to fund it, especially to
get
it started.
The KR guys nominate and vote on a place to meet around the same time
every
year. I went to one in Perry OK back in 97 (I think). They had someone
showing how to do fiberglass layups, someone assembling VW engines,
another
explaining flight testing,....etc. Those with flying airplanes would
usually do demo flights. Saturday night there is normally a banquet.
We have the facillites at San Geronimo (8t8) to hold such a thing...EAA
clubhouse w/kitchen, camping, super large grill/smoker, and at least one
hangar (assuming my hangar mate goes along). Like I said I can't host
the
thing. But if you are going to have one in Atlanta, spit out a date, so
I
can put it on my vacation schedule. Maybe I can make it.
Randy Stout
n282rs"at"earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
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1/10/2006
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| Subject: | Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "JOHN STARN" <jhstarn@verizon.net>
Me too...but because I run the Young Eagles for my EAA Chapter and we also
encourage parents to fly with us, we refer to ourselves are the Apple Valley
Air Corps Bald Eagles. 8*). Hey it always breaks the ice & gets a laugh or
two. KABONG Do Not Archive. HRII N561FS approaching 300 hrs.
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: scenery flying/ greenhouse effect
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
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am "follicle challenged"
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| Subject: | Constant torque hose clamps |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
I have a Rotax 912 engine in my 601XL. One of the oil hoses will leak where it
connects to the oil cooler. It's a relatively new hose. I've retightened the
clamp several times, but it will leak again after a few cross country trips. I've
even replaced the clamp with a wider, stainless steel clamp with an internal
sleeve.
I think it's a case of differential thermal expansion - the rubber hose and the
stainless steel clamp don't expand equally - which deforms the hose over time
("cold flow").
I was thinking of trying a Breeze constant torque clamp (http://www.breezeclamps.com/ct.htm) and tightening it to about 40 inch pounds.
Has anyone else run into this sort of problem with hoses and was it solved using
a spring clamp?
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2764#2764
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| Subject: | Constant torque hose clamps |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Cardell" <Bill@flyinmiata.com>
We use the breeze clamps in our turbo kits with good success. Probably
the ultimate in self adjustment would be spring clamps like the
factories use on modern cars. Can be a pain to deal with, but work very
well.
TurboDog's Dad
Bill Cardell
www.flyinmiata.com
1-800-FLY-MX5S
970-242-3800
Subject: Zenith-List: Constant torque hose clamps
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "David X" <dxj@comcast.net>
I have a Rotax 912 engine in my 601XL. One of the oil hoses will leak
where it connects to the oil cooler. It's a relatively new hose. I've
retightened the clamp several times, but it will leak again after a few
cross country trips. I've even replaced the clamp with a wider,
stainless steel clamp with an internal sleeve.
I think it's a case of differential thermal expansion - the rubber hose
and the stainless steel clamp don't expand equally - which deforms the
hose over time ("cold flow").
I was thinking of trying a Breeze constant torque clamp
(http://www.breezeclamps.com/ct.htm) and tightening it to about 40 inch
pounds.
Has anyone else run into this sort of problem with hoses and was it
solved using a spring clamp?
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| Subject: | Our Zenith 701 is in Airliners.net !!! Cant believe it! |
Great honor.
Larry Gower" <larrygow@yahoo.com>,
Cesar dela Garza <cesargs28@yahoo.com>,
tagore05@hotmail.com.0.00.MANY_EXCLAMATIONS.Subject.has.many.exclamations
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
hello Friends,
A friend (Memo) just called me, he saw a photo of our Yellow and White 701 in www.airliners.net page!
Is Great to see the airplane we built,and fly in this famous web page!
Thanks to the great Mexican Airplane Photographer Rafael Cordero.
Search for "Rafeal Cordero" in the Airliners web page., in his most recent
photos, the ones about our local Fly Inn "Flyers 2005" there are the photos,
the 701 has the (photo ID 977561)
Our 701 STOL ultralight was piloted by Larry my brother in the Airshow doing
a STOL demo in front of the croud..
Another friend Guillermo "Memo" Villanueva was piloting the white Piper PA-18.
A very known airplane here, Flys low and slow over the city with powerfull
speakers. with advertisement and pulling signs... (photo ID 978029)
Memo is 20, just finished his Comercial licence and is going to airline training,
he also put a couple of hours building our 701... I know his family since
he was about 5 years old...
Well just a proud 701 STOL builder, pilot and owner...
Saludos
Gary Gower
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Yes, mainly when you forgot something you needed (tool or part) and the airport
is a long drive away. Our hangar is 40 minutes from home (in light trafic).
So we were happy to build it over our factory, we had all the tools we could
need, . The only problem was happy working and forget how late is in the night
was to go hone...
Saludos
Gary Gower
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steveadams <dr_steve_adams@yahoo.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "steveadams"
While more space is always better, your shop should be plenty big enough. I built
my CH640 using a single bay of a 3 car garage, and that included having to
keep my QB fuselage in there for the whole build. I had to roll it outside to
fit the wings, but otherwise, it was easily done. For storage I used wall and
ceiling space. I would discourage trying to build it in a hanger, unless the airport
is across the street. It is often easy to find 20-30 minutes here and there
to work on the plane if it's right outside your door, which really adds up
and speeds the project along. If your plane is at the airport, you'll spend
a lot of unproductive time going back and forth, and need a considerable block
of time available to justify going over to do some work. Make it as convenient
and comfortable as possible to work on the plane, and you will finish it in
a reasonable time. Just my 2 cents.
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