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1. 04:02 AM - Re: Official Usage Guidelines (Larry Portouw)
2. 04:35 AM - Re: shop size (Tommy Walker)
3. 04:48 AM - Re: Zodiac 601 (Jim Pellien)
4. 06:21 AM - Re: Info (Gig Giacona)
5. 06:32 AM - Flaring tool (Don Mountain)
6. 06:41 AM - Re: Re: Info (Randy Stout)
7. 06:47 AM - Re: 601 XL Autopilot (T. Graziano)
8. 07:07 AM - Re: Flaring tool (Bill Bartlett)
9. 07:09 AM - Re: Flaring tool (Summit Racing dot Com) (N5SL)
10. 07:30 AM - Re: Flaring tool (Winston Ellis)
11. 07:59 AM - Re: Flaring tool (japhillipsga@aol.com)
12. 08:06 AM - Re: Flaring tool (cgalley)
13. 08:32 AM - Re: Our Zenith 701 is in Airliners.net !!! Cant believe it! (RURUNY@aol.com)
14. 08:50 AM - 601xl canopy lock (japhillipsga@aol.com)
15. 09:10 AM - Which Engine? (Gig Giacona)
16. 10:13 AM - Woodcomp prop blade angle recommendations (MElrod3732@aol.com)
17. 10:17 AM - CO Detector (charles.long@gm.com)
18. 11:04 AM - Re: CO Detector (george may)
19. 11:10 AM - Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. (george may)
20. 11:41 AM - Throttle cable material? (Johann G.)
21. 12:02 PM - Re: CO Detector (doug kandle)
22. 12:23 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (N5SL)
23. 12:31 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (cgalley)
24. 12:44 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock. (Gary Gower)
25. 01:13 PM - Canopy locks (George Swinford)
26. 01:15 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (Gary Gower)
27. 01:26 PM - Re: Throttle cable (Zed Smith)
28. 01:44 PM - Re: Flaring tool ()
29. 01:44 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (japhillipsga@aol.com)
30. 02:03 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock. (japhillipsga@aol.com)
31. 02:07 PM - Workshop size (tinerj@tinerj.com)
32. 02:20 PM - Re: CO Detector (Craig Payne)
33. 02:26 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock (Larry McFarland)
34. 03:04 PM - 701 Slat jig (Mike Hoffman)
35. 03:20 PM - Good news (Jean-Paul Roy)
36. 03:25 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock. (Bryan Martin)
37. 03:51 PM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (MikeH)
38. 04:15 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (Bob Unternaehrer)
39. 05:22 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (Bryan Martin)
40. 05:34 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (cgalley)
41. 05:36 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock.. (Gary Gower)
42. 05:37 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? (Johann G.)
43. 05:45 PM - Re: 701 Slat jig (Gary Gower)
44. 05:45 PM - Re: 701 Slat jig (Gary Gower)
45. 05:48 PM - Re: Good news (Gary Gower)
46. 05:54 PM - Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD (ron dewees)
47. 05:56 PM - CO Detectors (Bill Pagan)
48. 06:02 PM - Re: Throttle cable material? Blog? (Gary Gower)
49. 06:03 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
50. 06:07 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock. (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com)
51. 06:45 PM - tank question (Carlos Sa)
52. 07:23 PM - Re: Woodcomp prop blade angle recommendations (NYTerminat@aol.com)
53. 07:43 PM - Re: Good news (NYTerminat@aol.com)
54. 07:59 PM - Re: Fw: DAR inspection (NYTerminat@aol.com)
55. 10:46 PM - Re: Good news (Jean-Paul Roy)
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| Subject: | Re: Official Usage Guidelines |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Portouw" <Larry@portouw.com>
DDDDittos! I like these php BBS/Forums more than the old linear variety. The
Short Wing Piper club recently went to one of these. Mixed reviews form the
members, but I think it's a step up. Thanks for doing this, Matt!
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Larry Portouw
601-XL Kit
Atlanta, GA
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Tommy Walker" <twalker@cableone.net>
Shop Size.
More is better if you can afford to heat it in the winter. I'm building a
701 in a 10x20 1931 era garage. Both wings are hanging on the side walls,
suspended from the rafters. The rudder is leaning against the wall in the
front, the stabilizer is too. The elevator is in my basement along with the
cowl, doors, windshield (the wife thinks all that "stuff" in her laundry
area is ugly). My engine and prop are stored at my buddy's house....
When I move from the rear of the garage to the front, I have to turn
sideways to keep from bumping into the wing or hitting the table. If I
didn't have the storage space under the work table, I don't know what I
would have done.
More space is definitely better!
Tommy Walker in Alabama
You can see how crowded it is here:
http://69.92.114.178/img/main_fs.htm
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jim Pellien" <jim@pellien.com>
I'd like to participate as well.
Jim
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of ron dewees
Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Zodiac 601
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Hi Greg,
Count me in on the meeting. I would love to see more folks gather to
chat about the 601 series of planes and swap ideas. We have a local
Yahoo website set up for greater Atlanta 601 builders or flyers.
It's http://groups.yahoo.com/group/601_HD-HDS/ Come join us!
I think I know of at least a couple more 601's in the area and others
that are under construction.
Thanks for the invite.
Ron DeWees
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Gpjann@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gpjann@aol.com
>
>I am located in the greater Atlanta, Ga area and would like to find out if
>anyone is interested in having a gathering of anyone interested in the
Zodiac
>601 airplanes.
>The main purpose of the gathering is to meet and exchange information.
>Please contact me if you are interested.
>Greg Jannakos
>770-277-1637
>gpjann@aol.com
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
I'l be interested to hear how WW has his set. He claims here http://www.flycorvair.com/601Aug2004.html
It cruises at 126-130mph at 2,800rpm on 5 gallons per hour.
n282rs(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> Greg
> I like mine set at 8.5 degrees at the tips. That allows me to spin it at
> 3400 rpm. Max speed: 122 MPH, cruise @3100 RPM: 107 MPH
> ROC: 1000 FPM. My prop is a 64" Warp
>
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W.R. Gig Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2853#2853
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool to flare the 3/16" aluminum lines from
my Dynon AOA pitot. I have used a flaring tool a lot of years ago, but don't
know what to look for. Does anybody have a recommendation on where to buy
one or a make and model that works well? It seems that a lot of them are
45 degree flares. Are they used in auto brake lines or water pipes or something?
Also some of them are listed as a double flare. Do I need a single flare?
Do local hardware stores or auto supply stores sell them?
Don
601 XL, tail done, working on wings
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Randy Stout" <n282rs@earthlink.net>
Reminder....My 601 is the HD model. Lot thicker wing that I'm trying to
shove throught the air.
Randy Stout
n282rs"at"earthlink.net
www.geocities.com/r5t0ut21
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
>
> I'l be interested to hear how WW has his set. He claims here
http://www.flycorvair.com/601Aug2004.html
>
> It cruises at 126-130mph at 2,800rpm on 5 gallons per hour.
>
>
> n282rs(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> > Greg
> > I like mine set at 8.5 degrees at the tips. That allows me to spin it at
> > 3400 rpm. Max speed: 122 MPH, cruise @3100 RPM: 107 MPH
> > ROC: 1000 FPM. My prop is a 64" Warp
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| Subject: | re: 601 XL Autopilot |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "T. Graziano" <tonyplane@bellsouth.net>
Gig and Craig,
Pictures sent sepcor shows how I installed the servo. Looking back, I
probably would have mounted it on the floor on my added .032 flanged skin
doubler. My thinking at the time was if I mounted it up, I would have
better access to it. I have added a couple of stiffener straps since the
pics were taken to limit the movement of the serve, to lessen any possible
"tail wagging the dog" effect.
It is really neat flying xcountry with an AP. Last Saturday is used it on a
70NM trip with about a 40kt cross wind at altitude, and it tracked true to
GPS course line. The airplane nose was pointed about 15 degrees off the
course line. This makes for a different perspective relative to what the
GPS screen shows and what you see out the canopy - if you do not account for
the nose being pointed off.
Take Care,
Tony Graziano
601XL, N493TG - 60+ hrs.
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Time: 11:53:45 AM PST US
Subject: Zenith-List: re: 601 XL Autopilot?
From: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
Tony, do you have any photos of the servos mounted in your plane? I'm
thinking
I'll go with the Trio and would like to see the installation
Time: 12:47:01 PM PST US
From: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: re: 601 XL Autopilot?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
Somebody (possibly Tony) sent me some pictures of servos in a 601 but now I
can't find them. They may have been for a different AP but that doesn't
matter because the servos of the different manufactures are roughly laid out
the same. If any one has pictures e-mail them to me and I'll put then in the
photo archive.
-- Craig
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett" <bbartlett5@satx.rr.com>
I got my 37 degree flaring on eBay. Give it a try...
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
Mountain
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:32 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Flaring tool
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool to flare the 3/16" aluminum
lines from my Dynon AOA pitot. I have used a flaring tool a lot of
years ago, but don't know what to look for. Does anybody have a
recommendation on where to buy one or a make and model that works well?
It seems that a lot of them are 45 degree flares. Are they used in
auto brake lines or water pipes or something? Also some of them are
listed as a double flare. Do I need a single flare? Do local hardware
stores or auto supply stores sell them?
Don
601 XL, tail done, working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Flaring tool (Summit Racing dot Com) |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
I got mine from Summit Racing. It was and still is on
sale for $29.95. Here's a link that may be too long.
http://store.summitracing.com/default.asp?Ntt=flare&x=0&y=0&searchinresults=false&Ntk=KeywordSearch&DDS=1&N=115&target=egnsearch.asp
If that doesn't work, go to www.summitracing.com and
look up part number SUM-900311
Good luck,
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
--- Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain
> <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
> I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool
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| Subject: | Re: Flaring tool |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Winston Ellis <w1mdi@cox.net>
Don
I warmed up the plastic pitot line a little bit and was able to slide it
over the Dynon leads. With hose clamps, it is very air tight.
Winston Ellis
CH701/Suzuki
Ketchum, Idaho
Don Mountain wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
> I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool to flare the 3/16" aluminum lines from
my Dynon AOA pitot....
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flaring tool |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Don, I purchased mine from Spruce.
-----Original Message-----
From: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 06:31:56 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Zenith-List: Flaring tool
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool to flare the 3/16" aluminum lines
from my Dynon AOA pitot. I have used a flaring tool a lot of years ago, but
don't know what to look for. Does anybody have a recommendation on where to
buy one or a make and model that works well? It seems that a lot of them are
45 degree flares. Are they used in auto brake lines or water pipes or
something? Also some of them are listed as a double flare. Do I need a single
flare? Do local hardware stores or auto supply stores sell them?
Don
601 XL, tail done, working on wings
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| Subject: | Re: Flaring tool |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Check with your local EAA Chapter. Many like mine have a tool library. You
could also borrow one for the little you need it. Once done, unless you
damage a tube, you will never need it again.
Cy Galley - Chair,
AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
A Service Project of Chapter 75
EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bartlett" <bbartlett5@satx.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:07 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Flaring tool
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bill Bartlett"
> <bbartlett5@satx.rr.com>
>
> I got my 37 degree flaring on eBay. Give it a try...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don
> Mountain
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:32 AM
> To: Zenith
> Subject: Zenith-List: Flaring tool
>
>
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
> I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool to flare the 3/16" aluminum
> lines from my Dynon AOA pitot. I have used a flaring tool a lot of
> years ago, but don't know what to look for. Does anybody have a
> recommendation on where to buy one or a make and model that works well?
> It seems that a lot of them are 45 degree flares. Are they used in
> auto brake lines or water pipes or something? Also some of them are
> listed as a double flare. Do I need a single flare? Do local hardware
> stores or auto supply stores sell them?
>
> Don
> 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your
> hands ASAP.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Our Zenith 701 is in Airliners.net !!! Cant believe |
it!
--> Zenith-List message posted by: RURUNY@aol.com
Gary,
She looks beautiful taking to the blue skys. I've set it as wallpaper on my
computer to keep
me motivated in building and reminding me what the reward will be.
Brian
Long Island, NY
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| Subject: | 601xl canopy lock |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, after leaving my XL at a strange airport overnite this last
weekend I am concerned as to security. I have no lock for the canopy. Anybody
install a security lock on the tilt forward canopy ? Hope to hear from you guys,
Best regards, Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Gig Giacona" <wr.giacona@cox.net>
To use one of the new features of the forum let's take a look at what engine you
have or plane to have on your Zenith.
--------
W.R. Gig Giacona
601XL Under Construction
See my progress at www.peoamerica.net/N601WR
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2929#2929
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| Subject: | Woodcomp prop blade angle recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MElrod3732@aol.com
Hi Fellow builders: I am about to install my Woodcomp prop (that came with
the Skyshop firewall forward kit) on my Rotax 912S engine on my 701. I know
the end objective when setting the prop blade angle is to be 6% below max RRM
at full throttle.
I am seeking recommendations for the initial blade angle from builders who
might have a similar prop/engine combination that has worked for them.
Any other helpful hints or advice would also be appreciated.
Thanks in advance, Mike Elrod 701 98% complete
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
A few months ago I had a muffler crack on my Zenith 601HDS due to a
defective weld. The problem was quickly resolved but prompted a study of
CO detection systems currently available on the market. Even without a
muffler shroud heater, the nosewheel actuator openings provide some
opportunity for Engine compartment gases to enter the cockpit. The
following CO detector was installed in my aircraft. It is self contained
and battery powered ( 3 x AA) so operation is simple and not dependent on
the aircraft electrical system. I mounted it on the side panel next to the
passengers legs with velcro (5 minute job). Here are some basic specs and
cost, although would encourage you to compare the many brands that are out
there before making a choice:
Kidde 900-0146 digital display model
Cost - about $30 (watch for sales at the big stores)
Displays CO levels above 30 ppm
Maintains in memory peak CO levels from 11-999
Low Battery and Error indications
Operating Temperature range 40 F - 100 F
85 DB audio alarm activates at 150 +- 25 ppm
5.5" diameter x 1.4" deep, .66 lbs
5 year limited warranty
Hope this prompts many of you to consider adding a CO monitoring
device to your equipment list.
Chuck Long
N601LE, 55 hr TT
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
Chuck and all--
Although any CO detector is better than none, be aware that most of the
less expense ones (<$100) kickoff at about 30ppm. This is the standard for
home use, but is high for an enclosed cockpit.
I've gone with a COEXPERT (www.coexperts.com)unit that will detect easily
down into the single
digits.
George May
601XL 912s
On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to
get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax 912 Alternator Inciator. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
Thanks to all that replied to my initial inquiry . Once again this list has
proven to
be a wealth of knowledge with ideas. I thought I had asked a simple
question but found many interesting replies and much help.
George May
601XL 912s
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| Subject: | Throttle cable material? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
Hello list members,
I have been very unhappy with my installation of the right side throttle
cable to the Bing carb on my Rotax 912.
The cable on the pax.(right) side is short and the angles from both the
throttle linkage and where the cable attatches to the Bing carb. linkage
is very sharp, which causes a stiff movement of the cable. The idea was
to change this cable for a longer cable which extends right of the carb
and around the front, over the engine and back from the left side of the
carb.
This cable will be long, but without any friction.
Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for this? No such
material in Iceland.
Thank you,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
I too have gone with this low level detector. The reason is that
long term exposure to even low levels can cause problems (there are
days when I fly 10 or 12 hours). Also, a problem that lets in low
levels may soon be admitting large levels.
I found that the it is not at all obvious where CO enters the
plane. I ran some experiments where I placed my detector in
different areas of my C-206. Left out in the open, I never get
anything. But cover it up and move it around and I found that I
could get a bit of CO coming in the rear of the plane (behind the
cargo area). I've heard that in some planes (like C-185s) there is a
significant risk of CO entering back near the tail. So even with no
leaks anywhere in the exhaust, there can be a risk.
It may be worth it to borrow a sensitive detector and fly with it
some to check out the baseline (normal) levels in your plane.
At 12:04 PM 1/11/2006, you wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: "george may" <gfmjr_20@hotmail.com>
>
>Chuck and all--
> Although any CO detector is better than none, be aware that most of the
>less expense ones (<$100) kickoff at about 30ppm. This is the standard for
>home use, but is high for an enclosed cockpit.
> I've gone with a COEXPERT (www.coexperts.com)unit that will detect easily
>down into the single
>digits.
>
>George May
>601XL 912s
Doug Kandle
CH701
Boise ID
Rudder & Horiz. Stab. done Working on 2nd Wing
Jabiru 2200
From complete kit
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: N5SL <nfivesl@yahoo.com>
Johann:
Aircraft spruce sells a product called "Bowden cable"
that is simply a metal casing with a solid cable
inside. It is sold by the foot. There are a few
accessories for this cable such as the bowden cable
clamp, and no-slip cable-safe fittings and other end
parts. You can find these products at
aircraftspruce.com in the catalog on page 159.
I hope this is helpful.
Scott Laughlin
www.cooknwithgas.com
Working on FWF
--- "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
> <johann@rafpostur.is>
>
> Hello list members,
>
> This cable will be long, but without any friction.
> Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for
> this? No such
> material in Iceland.
>
> Thank you,
> Johann G.
> Iceland.
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Your ought to go the Larry McFarland's site www.macsmachine.com and see how
he took care of the dual carb linkage problem. Some of the pictures where he
used a flex shaft are under the controls section. There are some other
pictures with the engine. His Blog Oct 26 from section 5 has some verbage.
Larry will also answer your e-mailed questions.
Cy Galley - Chair,
AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
A Service Project of Chapter 75
EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:40 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
>
> Hello list members,
>
> I have been very unhappy with my installation of the right side throttle
> cable to the Bing carb on my Rotax 912.
> The cable on the pax.(right) side is short and the angles from both the
> throttle linkage and where the cable attatches to the Bing carb. linkage
> is very sharp, which causes a stiff movement of the cable. The idea was
> to change this cable for a longer cable which extends right of the carb
> and around the front, over the engine and back from the left side of the
> carb.
> This cable will be long, but without any friction.
> Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for this? No such
> material in Iceland.
>
> Thank you,
> Johann G.
> Iceland.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 601xl canopy lock. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Bill,
About locks in our airplanes I have two things I want to say:
First, mostly all the airports (at least little ones) are not dangerous for
airplanes, ,I always have found friendly people in them. Every time I visit
Spruce I go to Corona Airport just to look around and talk to pilots, there
is always someone there and airplanes to see, most unlocked but we know that lookers
don't even touch the lexan with the hands,...
When visiting Houston (relatives) I stop also at several little airports,
sometimes never see a person, most planes unlocked and safe.
Aviation for me is another world. But as Murphy says.... "will happen in the
less probably place and moment".
Generally the vandals or addicts prefer cars parts or other more easy to sell
parts that specialized aviation equipment, harder to sell, they need fast
easy money,
Second: If someone wants to steal something from any airplane the doors, Lexan
windows and the thin aluminum are very easy to break open... Even without
tools.
Maybe a little lock mechanism that can be removed when ready to fly or something
that is stetical will work, just to prevent some curios guy to flip open the
canopy accidentally.
Normally the "gray cover" used over the canopy is enough to show that the plane
is locked... Needs nerves to untie a cover of an airplane just to see if
the canopy is unlocked. airport platforms are in the open.
The 701 has a key in the handle, but the doors could easy be bent to open them
by a theft...
Is a real shame that the T guys choose airplanes that September... Probably
never ever will happen again... But we have to learn worldwide to live with
this, from now on...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive.
japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, after leaving my XL at a strange airport overnite this last
weekend I am concerned as to security. I have no lock for the canopy. Anybody
install a security lock on the tilt forward canopy ? Hope to hear from you guys,
Best regards, Bill
---------------------------------
Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "George Swinford" <grs-pms@comcast.net>
An old friend in the airframe repair business told me years ago, "Airplane locks
just serve to keep your friends out". Having my padlocked Ercoupe broken into
on an unfenced airport made a believer of me, and I soon moved to a larger
fenced airport.
George
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hi Johann,
I used montain bicycle brake cables, look for the ones that have teflon inside
the covering. Just messure and cut to size.
Also the clutch cables from some motorcycles (off road) have teflon inside and
are long enough.
Also can use the bicycle cable cover with aviation cable 7x7 or 7x19 of the
size... cant remember now the diameter...
What ever cable we use, we change it every year /service to the carburators,
As they get adjusted by a press lock, we dont want to use them twice... Just
for safety, but they should last several years.
Both cables are long, to make open turns, both meet near the center of the engine,
with tie wraps where ever needed to prevent touching the engine.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
"Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G."
Hello list members,
I have been very unhappy with my installation of the right side throttle
cable to the Bing carb on my Rotax 912.
The cable on the pax.(right) side is short and the angles from both the
throttle linkage and where the cable attatches to the Bing carb. linkage
is very sharp, which causes a stiff movement of the cable. The idea was
to change this cable for a longer cable which extends right of the carb
and around the front, over the engine and back from the left side of the
carb.
This cable will be long, but without any friction.
Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for this? No such
material in Iceland.
Thank you,
Johann G.
Iceland.
---------------------------------
Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Lockwood Aviation in Florida USA has extensive selection, including all the sleeves,
stops, etc.
Their catalog is a lot better than the web site, last time I looked.
Zed/etc
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: <CLEONARD52@comcast.net>
LOOK IN THE SUMMIT RACING WEB SITE.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Mountain" <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:31 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: Flaring tool
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Don Mountain <mountain4don@yahoo.com>
>
> I am in need of a 37 degree flaring tool to flare the 3/16" aluminum
lines from my Dynon AOA pitot. I have used a flaring tool a lot of years
ago, but don't know what to look for. Does anybody have a recommendation
on where to buy one or a make and model that works well? It seems that a
lot of them are 45 degree flares. Are they used in auto brake lines or
water pipes or something? Also some of them are listed as a double flare.
Do I need a single flare? Do local hardware stores or auto supply stores
sell them?
>
> Don
> 601 XL, tail done, working on wings
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands
ASAP.
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Maybe bicycle brake cables ? Seems like they are about the same size.
-----Original Message-----
From: Johann G. <johann@rafpostur.is>
Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 19:40:25 +0000
Subject: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
Hello list members,
I have been very unhappy with my installation of the right side throttle
cable to the Bing carb on my Rotax 912.
The cable on the pax.(right) side is short and the angles from both the
throttle linkage and where the cable attatches to the Bing carb. linkage
is very sharp, which causes a stiff movement of the cable. The idea was
to change this cable for a longer cable which extends right of the carb
and around the front, over the engine and back from the left side of the
carb.
This cable will be long, but without any friction.
Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for this? No such
material in Iceland.
Thank you,
Johann G.
Iceland.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Gary, thanks for the input. The "strange" airport I parked my plan at is a small
strip at Cleveland Tennessee where back on 14 October 1972 I was living in
a little trailer just outside of the fence while going to university. That particular
night two 15 year old guys hot wired a C-150 and tried to fly it away.
I arrived at the crash site to see and hear them scream as they were cut out
of the wreckage. Really, I am more concerned that someone would screw with the
thing overnite as a prank and I not catch it the next morning and you guy read
about it a week later on the ntsb. I am insured for vandalism and theft, it's
what else that could occur that concerns me. So the lock. If it's broken into
at least I'll know to really look for something. Someone broke into my Corvette
in 1976 in Suttgard Germany. Nothing inside to steal, but the damage was significant.
Never locked it after that. So I understand both side of the argument,
Thanks again and best regards, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:40:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601xl canopy lock.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Hello Bill,
About locks in our airplanes I have two things I want to say:
First, mostly all the airports (at least little ones) are not dangerous for
airplanes, ,I always have found friendly people in them. Every time I visit
Spruce I go to Corona Airport just to look around and talk to pilots, there is
always someone there and airplanes to see, most unlocked but we know that
lookers don't even touch the lexan with the hands,...
When visiting Houston (relatives) I stop also at several little airports,
sometimes never see a person, most planes unlocked and safe.
Aviation for me is another world. But as Murphy says.... "will happen in the
less probably place and moment".
Generally the vandals or addicts prefer cars parts or other more easy to
sell parts that specialized aviation equipment, harder to sell, they need fast
easy money,
Second: If someone wants to steal something from any airplane the doors,
Lexan windows and the thin aluminum are very easy to break open... Even
without tools.
Maybe a little lock mechanism that can be removed when ready to fly or
something that is stetical will work, just to prevent some curios guy to flip
open the canopy accidentally.
Normally the "gray cover" used over the canopy is enough to show that the
plane is locked... Needs nerves to untie a cover of an airplane just to see if
the canopy is unlocked. airport platforms are in the open.
The 701 has a key in the handle, but the doors could easy be bent to open them
by a theft...
Is a real shame that the T guys choose airplanes that September... Probably
never ever will happen again... But we have to learn worldwide to live with
this, from now on...
Saludos
Gary Gower
Do not archive.
japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, after leaving my XL at a strange airport overnite this last
weekend I am concerned as to security. I have no lock for the canopy. Anybody
install a security lock on the tilt forward canopy ? Hope to hear from you guys,
Best regards, Bill
---------------------------------
Photo Books. You design it and well bind it!
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "tinerj@tinerj.com" <tinerj@tinerj.com>
An 18 x 20 room should be fine. I'm in an 11 x 15 room that once served as
a beauty shop. Both long walls have bookshelves that are 12 inches deep. So
the actual space is 9 x 15 I use a 4 x 12 work bench. Rudder (built at
shop), elevator, horizontal stablizer, flaps, ailerons were completed and
stored in a small, unused bathroom. Then the wings (without ailerons or
flaps) I put together with clecos, then disassembled, deburred, corrosion
protected, and merely left unassembled -- sort of my own quickbuilt kit.
I've finished the rear fuselage and have been able to rivet floor and sides
separate. Now I'm working on the front part.
As dr_steve_adams pointed out, it is also an advantage to delay the move to
the hanger as long as possible. I can walk from right into the workroom at
any time and spend a few minutes or hours on the kit without driving
anywhere.
John Hudson Tiner
601xl working on fuselage
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Craig Payne" <craig@craigandjean.com>
FWIW: A few weeks ago there was a discussion of 3-4 different ways to seal
or baffle the steering slots. I think I posted some of the builders' photos
on the sharing section.
-- Craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
charles.long@gm.com
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 11:17 AM
Subject: Zenith-List: CO Detector
--> Zenith-List message posted by: charles.long@gm.com
A few months ago I had a muffler crack on my Zenith 601HDS due to a
defective weld. The problem was quickly resolved but prompted a study of CO
detection systems currently available on the market. Even without a muffler
shroud heater, the nosewheel actuator openings provide some opportunity for
Engine compartment gases to enter the cockpit. The following CO detector
was installed in my aircraft. It is self contained and battery powered ( 3
x AA) so operation is simple and not dependent on the aircraft electrical
system. I mounted it on the side panel next to the passengers legs with
velcro (5 minute job). Here are some basic specs and cost, although would
encourage you to compare the many brands that are out there before making a
choice:
Kidde 900-0146 digital display model
Cost - about $30 (watch for sales at the big stores)
Displays CO levels above 30 ppm
Maintains in memory peak CO levels from 11-999
Low Battery and Error indications
Operating Temperature range 40 F - 100 F
85 DB audio alarm activates at 150 +- 25 ppm
5.5" diameter x 1.4" deep, .66 lbs
5 year limited warranty
Hope this prompts many of you to consider adding a CO monitoring
device to your equipment list.
Chuck Long
N601LE, 55 hr TT
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| Subject: | Re: 601xl canopy lock |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Bill,
I purchased a canopy cover that has two straps that go under the belly.
I believe that besides being an advantage for the canopy material, you
might
deter curiosity or theft by not allowing easy view of the interior of
your plane.
Larry McFarland - 601HDS
do not archive
japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
>
>Dear Thread Friends, after leaving my XL at a strange airport overnite this last
weekend I am concerned as to security. I have no lock for the canopy. Anybody
install a security lock on the tilt forward canopy ? Hope to hear from you
guys, Best regards, Bill
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman" <mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com>
I am in the process of making the slat jig. Can anyone tell me if the
spacing of the templates matter or are they just spaced evenly between the
overall lengths.
Mike Hoffman
701 Kit
Tail done
Wings done
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy" <jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca>
Hello everybody. Today is a great day since I've received my plans, the CD and
the manual.
So this is a start for CH 701 no. 6265. Expecting the tail kit soon.
Jean-Paul (waiting) Roy
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| Subject: | Re: 601xl canopy lock. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
What about getting some seals like they use on utility meter sockets. They
won't keep anyone out but they will make it obvious that someone was
tampering with it. Or how about the old toothpick under the door seal trick.
If someone opens the canopy, the toothpick falls out. If the toothpick is
missing you know someone was messing. :)
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
on 1/11/06 4:59 PM, japhillipsga@aol.com at japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
>
> Gary, thanks for the input. The "strange" airport I parked my plan at is a
> small strip at Cleveland Tennessee where back on 14 October 1972 I was living
> in a little trailer just outside of the fence while going to university. That
> particular night two 15 year old guys hot wired a C-150 and tried to fly it
> away. I arrived at the crash site to see and hear them scream as they were cut
> out of the wreckage. Really, I am more concerned that someone would screw with
> the thing overnite as a prank and I not catch it the next morning and you guy
> read about it a week later on the ntsb. I am insured for vandalism and theft,
> it's what else that could occur that concerns me. So the lock. If it's broken
> into at least I'll know to really look for something. Someone broke into my
> Corvette in 1976 in Suttgard Germany. Nothing inside to steal, but the damage
> was significant. Never locked it after that. So I understand both side of the
> argument, Thanks again and best regards, Bill
>
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: MikeH <mhilderbrand@cox.net>
FWIW depends on how close you are to a FSDO office. A friend of mine
had his plane inspected within 1 week of the phone call (from the FAA).
Of course we only live 8 min from the FSDO office!
mike
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
>
>Brad,
>Don't want to start another feud here but have you considered applying
>to the nearest FSDO of the FAA? My application took about a month from
>application to inspection and cost nothing. Most DARs are getting $400
>to $500 now. Most builders that use them justify the expense because
>DARs are able to come out quickly, but that is clearly not your experience.
>
>Ron DeWees
>
>do not archive
>
>Brad Larson wrote:
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brad Larson <blarson@meridianhouse.com>
>>
>>Does anyone have a reference for a DAR in MN,ND,SD?
>>
>>I've been waiting on the one here in Fargo, ND for three months and cant
>>seem to get to the top of his priority list.
>>
>>I have a friend that is just starting a RV-10 in Fergus Falls, MN that
>>is concerned for the same reason.
>>
>>Brad.
>>
>>Do Not Archive
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
What is a BLOG. Bob U.
----- Original Message -----
From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:31 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>
> Your ought to go the Larry McFarland's site www.macsmachine.com and see
how
> he took care of the dual carb linkage problem. Some of the pictures where
he
> used a flex shaft are under the controls section. There are some other
> pictures with the engine. His Blog Oct 26 from section 5 has some
verbage.
> Larry will also answer your e-mailed questions.
>
> Cy Galley - Chair,
> AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
> A Service Project of Chapter 75
> EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
> EAA Sport Pilot
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
> To: "Zenith listinn" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:40 PM
> Subject: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
>
>
> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
> >
> > Hello list members,
> >
> > I have been very unhappy with my installation of the right side throttle
> > cable to the Bing carb on my Rotax 912.
> > The cable on the pax.(right) side is short and the angles from both the
> > throttle linkage and where the cable attatches to the Bing carb. linkage
> > is very sharp, which causes a stiff movement of the cable. The idea was
> > to change this cable for a longer cable which extends right of the carb
> > and around the front, over the engine and back from the left side of the
> > carb.
> > This cable will be long, but without any friction.
> > Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for this? No such
> > material in Iceland.
> >
> > Thank you,
> > Johann G.
> > Iceland.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net>
Short for weblog. An on-line journal or newsletter.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
do not archive.
on 1/11/06 7:13 PM, Bob Unternaehrer at shilocom@mcmsys.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
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> What is a BLOG. Bob U.
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>>
>> Your ought to go the Larry McFarland's site www.macsmachine.com and see
> how
>> he took care of the dual carb linkage problem. Some of the pictures where
> he
>> used a flex shaft are under the controls section. There are some other
>> pictures with the engine. His Blog Oct 26 from section 5 has some
> verbage.
>> Larry will also answer your e-mailed questions.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Web definitions for Blog
Blog is short for weblog. A weblog is a journal (or newsletter) that
is frequently updated and intended for general public consumption. Blogs
generally represent the personality of the author or the Web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Unternaehrer" <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
> <shilocom@mcmsys.com>
>
> What is a BLOG. Bob U.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
> To: <zenith-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
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>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>>
>> Your ought to go the Larry McFarland's site www.macsmachine.com and see
> how
>> he took care of the dual carb linkage problem. Some of the pictures where
> he
>> used a flex shaft are under the controls section. There are some other
>> pictures with the engine. His Blog Oct 26 from section 5 has some
> verbage.
>> Larry will also answer your e-mailed questions.
>>
>> Cy Galley - Chair,
>> AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
>> A Service Project of Chapter 75
>> EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
>> EAA Sport Pilot
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
>> To: "Zenith listinn" <zenith-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 1:40 PM
>> Subject: Zenith-List: Throttle cable material?
>>
>>
>> > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
>> >
>> > Hello list members,
>> >
>> > I have been very unhappy with my installation of the right side
>> > throttle
>> > cable to the Bing carb on my Rotax 912.
>> > The cable on the pax.(right) side is short and the angles from both the
>> > throttle linkage and where the cable attatches to the Bing carb.
>> > linkage
>> > is very sharp, which causes a stiff movement of the cable. The idea was
>> > to change this cable for a longer cable which extends right of the carb
>> > and around the front, over the engine and back from the left side of
>> > the
>> > carb.
>> > This cable will be long, but without any friction.
>> > Does anyone have a source for the cable needed for this? No such
>> > material in Iceland.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Johann G.
>> > Iceland.
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| Subject: | Re: 601xl canopy lock.. |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Good point, forgot that..
Maybe the type of lock for the ascelerator in idle position like the ones in
Sporty's (see Sporty's catalog under Owner and FBO Suplies), but designed for
the ZAC "T" handle, Easy to make, I think... If we built a plane can built a
lock :-)
Has to be bulky and painted red for preflight porposes.... also a chain (welded
hardened type) inside a hose with a padlock, making an "8" on the prop hub
will do...
Yes, once I got stolen a 200 dls stereo from wifes Minivan, though a 700 dls
rear glass, instalation included and a 400 repair bill for the instrument
panel, Now the original cassete radio is reinstalled :-( we use a CD player
with a sender though the lighter when on the road. works better and is portable...
Saludos
Gary Gower
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japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Gary, thanks for the input. The "strange" airport I parked my plan at is a small
strip at Cleveland Tennessee where back on 14 October 1972 I was living in a
little trailer just outside of the fence while going to university. That particular
night two 15 year old guys hot wired a C-150 and tried to fly it away.
I arrived at the crash site to see and hear them scream as they were cut out of
the wreckage. Really, I am more concerned that someone would screw with the
thing overnite as a prank and I not catch it the next morning and you guy read
about it a week later on the ntsb. I am insured for vandalism and theft, it's
what else that could occur that concerns me. So the lock. If it's broken into
at least I'll know to really look for something. Someone broke into my Corvette
in 1976 in Suttgard Germany. Nothing inside to steal, but the damage was significant.
Never locked it after that. So I understand both side of the argument,
Thanks again and best regards, Bill
-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Gower
Sent: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:40:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601xl canopy lock.
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower
Hello Bill,
About locks in our airplanes I have two things I want to say:
First, mostly all the airports (at least little ones) are not dangerous for
airplanes, ,I always have found friendly people in them. Every time I visit
Spruce I go to Corona Airport just to look around and talk to pilots, there is
always someone there and airplanes to see, most unlocked but we know that
lookers don't even touch the lexan with the hands,...
When visiting Houston (relatives) I stop also at several little airports,
sometimes never see a person, most planes unlocked and safe.
Aviation for me is another world. But as Murphy says.... "will happen in the
less probably place and moment".
Generally the vandals or addicts prefer cars parts or other more easy to
sell parts that specialized aviation equipment, harder to sell, they need fast
easy money,
Second: If someone wants to steal something from any airplane the doors,
Lexan windows and the thin aluminum are very easy to break open... Even
without tools.
Maybe a little lock mechanism that can be removed when ready to fly or
something that is stetical will work, just to prevent some curios guy to flip
open the canopy accidentally.
Normally the "gray cover" used over the canopy is enough to show that the
plane is locked... Needs nerves to untie a cover of an airplane just to see if
the canopy is unlocked. airport platforms are in the open.
The 701 has a key in the handle, but the doors could easy be bent to open them
by a theft...
Is a real shame that the T guys choose airplanes that September... Probably
never ever will happen again... But we have to learn worldwide to live with
this, from now on...
Saludos
Gary Gower
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japhillipsga@aol.com wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: japhillipsga@aol.com
Dear Thread Friends, after leaving my XL at a strange airport overnite this last
weekend I am concerned as to security. I have no lock for the canopy. Anybody
install a security lock on the tilt forward canopy ? Hope to hear from you guys,
Best regards, Bill
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle cable material? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Johann G." <johann@rafpostur.is>
Hi,
Thank you all very much for the advice on the throttle vable material.
I will try the local bicycle shops and motorcycle dealers. If I do not
find anything there, ill just order it.
The idea from Larry McFarland is great, but it will have to wait until
everything else is finished, the minor details and mendings.
It seems that when you think the building of the project is finished,
there is always something that needs fixing or improving.
Nothing big, but things like dark material on the dash, oil thermostat,
seats need covering and so on.
Best regards,
Johann G.
Z 701
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| Subject: | Re: 701 Slat jig |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Spaced are OK, I put one of the templates in each of the slat airfoils to prevent
the skin to get marked... gets pretty tight to get the form done.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Mike Hoffman <mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman"
I am in the process of making the slat jig. Can anyone tell me if the
spacing of the templates matter or are they just spaced evenly between the
overall lengths.
Mike Hoffman
701 Kit
Tail done
Wings done
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Spaced are OK, I put one of the templates in each of the slat airfoils to prevent
the skin to get marked... gets pretty tight to get the form done.
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Mike Hoffman <mhoffman9@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Mike Hoffman"
I am in the process of making the slat jig. Can anyone tell me if the
spacing of the templates matter or are they just spaced evenly between the
overall lengths.
Mike Hoffman
701 Kit
Tail done
Wings done
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Welcome Jean-Paul, Enjoy the building process.
Saludos
Gary Gower
701 912S
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Jean-Paul Roy <jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy"
Hello everybody. Today is a great day since I've received my plans, the CD and
the manual.
So this is a start for CH 701 no. 6265. Expecting the tail kit soon.
Jean-Paul (waiting) Roy
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for a DAR in MN, ND, SD |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
Mike and Brad,
It was me who had a successful inspection from my local FSDO office
exactly one year ago. Yesterday I spent two hours at the FSDO office
with logs in hand and shoes under my arms ( very thorough security
screening to get into office). I got the Repairman's Certificate ok,
but it's sort of a hassle.
I have heard from a couple of guys that had a DAR do their
inspections that the paperwork for Repairman's Certificate was filled
out and sent to the FAA at the date of the original inspection. I would
be sure ask whoever does the inspection if they can do your application
for R C at the same time. It's just one page but needs to be signed by
some representative of the FAA unless you go through the process of
proving you built the plane a second time. The annual condition
inspection will sneek up on you a lot sooner than you think it will.
Ron DeWees
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MikeH wrote:
>--> Zenith-List message posted by: MikeH <mhilderbrand@cox.net>
>
> FWIW depends on how close you are to a FSDO office. A friend of mine
>had his plane inspected within 1 week of the phone call (from the FAA).
>Of course we only live 8 min from the FSDO office!
>mike
>
>
>
>>--> Zenith-List message posted by: ron dewees <rdewees@mindspring.com>
>>
>>Brad,
>>Don't want to start another feud here but have you considered applying
>>to the nearest FSDO of the FAA? My application took about a month from
>>application to inspection and cost nothing. Most DARs are getting $400
>>to $500 now. Most builders that use them justify the expense because
>>DARs are able to come out quickly, but that is clearly not your experience.
>>
>>Ron DeWees
>>
>>do not archive
>>
>>Brad Larson wrote:
>>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bill Pagan <pdn8r@yahoo.com>
There is some very informative information on the following links regarding CO
and CO Detectors.
http://www.aeromedix.com/aeromedix/cat/co/aviationconsumer_nov2005.pdf
http://www.aeromedix.com/aeromedix/art/co/
Bill Pagan
Florida
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Launchpad/9749/william.html
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| Subject: | Re: Throttle cable material? Blog? |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Gary Gower <ggower_99@yahoo.com>
Kids talk, the problem of having young boys in the list :-) :-)
Asked the same question to my daughter last night. She was surprised that with
all my time spent in line, didnt know what it means... I was shy :-) :-)
Saludos
Gary Gower.
Bryan Martin <bryanmmartin@comcast.net> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Bryan Martin
Short for weblog. An on-line journal or newsletter.
--
Bryan Martin
N61BM, CH 601 XL, Stratus Subaru.
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on 1/11/06 7:13 PM, Bob Unternaehrer at shilocom@mcmsys.com wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Bob Unternaehrer"
>
> What is a BLOG. Bob U.
>
>
>> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley"
>>
>> Your ought to go the Larry McFarland's site www.macsmachine.com and see
> how
>> he took care of the dual carb linkage problem. Some of the pictures where
> he
>> used a flex shaft are under the controls section. There are some other
>> pictures with the engine. His Blog Oct 26 from section 5 has some
> verbage.
>> Larry will also answer your e-mailed questions.
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| Subject: | Re: 601xl canopy lock |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Larry, that is a really good idea. Do recall where you bought it and which
model fit the XL. Right now I use an old Bart Simpson bed sheet of my son's from
15 years ago to cover the canopy to avoid dust and bird crap. Thanks, Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com
Bryan, somehow I get the impression you might have worked for the "company"
or at least read more than a few Sam Spade stories. Good ideas and thanks with
best regards, Bill
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Carlos Sa <carlosfsa@yahoo.com>
Hello, all
I would like to have your opinion on this:
I'm just about ready to rivet the leading edge tanks ( la RV, instead of welded):
http://www3.sympatico.ca/c.sa/tankparts.jpg
Because there are no rivets along the curve, I am thinking about adding a reinforcing
bracket as shown in this picture:
http://www3.sympatico.ca/c.sa/tankbracket.jpg
Is this necessary?
The whole tank and brackets are made of 6064-T6, 0.032" thick.
I'd appreciate your thoughts and comments...
Carlos
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| Subject: | Re: Woodcomp prop blade angle recommendations |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Mike,
Just did this on mine. I wound up with 13 degrees. This came very close to
the 6 %. MAKE SURE THAT YOUR TACH IS ACCURATE! Use a prop tach to verify the
actual RPM of the engine. Don't forget that there is a 2:43 gear reduction for
the prop. Make up a chart showing the Prop RPM and Engine RPM to compare it to
your Tach readings.
Bob Spudis
Zenith Ch-701/912S Just got my DAR sign off today!
In a message dated 1/11/2006 1:15:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
MElrod3732@aol.com writes:
Hi Fellow builders: I am about to install my Woodcomp prop (that came with
the Skyshop firewall forward kit) on my Rotax 912S engine on my 701.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Welcome Jean -Paul
This list has been a great help in getting questions answered and general
information. I ordered my kit Dec 04 and received the tail section at the end of
Jan 05. My serial # was 5775 so Zenith has either sold a lot of plans or kits
since then. By the way I just received my FAA DAR inspection and sign off
today.
ENJOY BUILDING!!!!!!!
Bob Spudis
CH-701/912S ready to fly!!
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In a message dated 1/11/2006 8:52:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
ggower_99@yahoo.com writes:
Jean-Paul Roy <jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy"
Hello everybody. Today is a great day since I've received my plans, the CD
and the manual.
So this is a start for CH 701 no. 6265. Expecting the tail kit soon.
Jean-Paul (waiting) Roy
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| Subject: | Re: DAR inspection |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Cy
My DAR inspection went off without a hitch today. He was thorough but not
overbearing. The issue about the conditional inspection was discussed and put to
bed that it was not required. Thanks again for your research. Now I have to
research some insurance!!
Bob Spudis
CH-701/912S Itching to fly
In a message dated 1/2/2006 11:47:04 PM Eastern Standard Time,
NYTerminat@aol.com writes:
Cy
Thank you for your research. I think I found out why my DAR said I needed a
conditional inspection. When I first spoke with him we chatted for a little
while and he mentioned that he did quite a few DAR inspections overseas for
Mission Aviation Fellowship.
Last night I was pouring through AC 20-27F and I found a paragraph that I
believe my DAR was referring to. It under section 15-a-2 whic covers
"Building
and certifying an Amateur-built aircraft built outside the United States and
purchased by a U.S. citizen" Since he has done several overseas inspections
this
would have applied. I will have to call him and confirm that this will not be
necessary for my inspection.
It makes me feel a little better that he's not just trying to get one over on
me.
Thanks again
Bob Spudis
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In a message dated 1/2/2006 9:50:27 AM Eastern Standard Time,
cgalley@qcbc.org writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
>From EAA A&P, IA and DAR. If you continue to have this impasse, ask your
DAR to show you his requirement in FAA Order 8130.2F. After all the reason
you are paying the DAR is for this initial inspection and airworthiness
release for the testing phase.
Cy Galley
EAA Safety Programs Editor
Always looking for ideas and articles for EAA Sport Pilot
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy" <jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca>
Thanks Bob. Looking forward to writing the same message as you just
did.....lolll
Jean-Paul
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----- Original Message -----
From: <NYTerminat@aol.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Good news
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
>
> Welcome Jean -Paul
>
> This list has been a great help in getting questions answered and general
> information. I ordered my kit Dec 04 and received the tail section at the
end of
> Jan 05. My serial # was 5775 so Zenith has either sold a lot of plans or
kits
> since then. By the way I just received my FAA DAR inspection and sign off
> today.
>
> ENJOY BUILDING!!!!!!!
>
> Bob Spudis
> CH-701/912S ready to fly!!
>
>
> do not archive
>
>
> In a message dated 1/11/2006 8:52:08 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> ggower_99@yahoo.com writes:
> Jean-Paul Roy <jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca> wrote:
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy"
>
> Hello everybody. Today is a great day since I've received my plans, the CD
> and the manual.
>
> So this is a start for CH 701 no. 6265. Expecting the tail kit soon.
>
> Jean-Paul (waiting) Roy
> do not archive
>
>
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