---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 01/15/06: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:43 AM - Re: Re: () 2. 06:46 AM - N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 (Dave Zilz) 3. 09:41 AM - frappr web site for 601xl (Danny Offill) 4. 10:32 AM - Re: frappr web site for 601xl (Robin Bellach) 5. 11:00 AM - Master Switch 912ULS (JERICKSON03E@aol.com) 6. 11:02 AM - XL PLans / Assembly Guide Question Elevator Trim Tab Install (Larry Whitlow) 7. 11:39 AM - Re: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 (NYTerminat@aol.com) 8. 01:31 PM - Re: 601xl canopy lock (JAPhillipsGA@aol.com) 9. 01:53 PM - Re: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 (Al Young) 10. 02:29 PM - Re: XL PLans / Assembly Guide Question Elevator Trim Tab Install (Michael Valentine) 11. 03:50 PM - Re: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 (Roger Venables) 12. 03:54 PM - Re: Master Switch 912ULS (Roger Venables) 13. 05:34 PM - Re: frappr web site for 601xl (Zodie Rocket) 14. 08:16 PM - Re: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 (Jerry Latimer) 15. 08:35 PM - Jab 2200 on 701 (doug kandle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:43:03 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith-List: Re: --> Zenith-List message posted by: Sorry for the sloppy list posting. I intended to respond off list to John with pictures of my project. Let me know off list if you are interested and I will email you. Gary Ray ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 8:09 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Re: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: > > John > I just finished my electrical system on the 601XL. > Get TurboCad LE 4.0 off the web as a free download to view the drawing. > My601XL_Z16h.dwg can be modified to suit your needs and it makes excellent > documentation. > Also I sent a few pics of how it looks in my aircraft. > The Main Bus is identical mounting to the EBus1 pic but on the right side. > If you want more pics let me know. > > Gary Ray , West Bloomfield, MI > soon to fly > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john butterfield" > To: > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:32 PM > > > > --> Zenith-List message posted by: john butterfield > > > > > hi list > > > > starting to put together my electrical system. when > > testing the lights and other electrical componets, > > what should i use as a power source. i was thinking > > of buying my aircraft battery now and using it until i > > am ready to put it in the aircraft. will this damage > > it and or is it powerful enough for testing purposes. > > i can recharge it anytime but perhaps using it for > > testing is a bad idea any recommendations would be > > helpful. thanks in advance > > john butterfield > > 601xl, corvair ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:46:23 AM PST US From: "Dave Zilz" Subject: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Zilz" Today was an awesome day at Greensfield (M71)! It was First Flight Day for our CH-801 project plane. Check out our photos at: http://community.webshots.com/album/543299558OVHjOs Dave Zilz N143ZT Greensfield - Hangar 17 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:02 AM PST US From: "Danny Offill" Subject: Zenith-List: frappr web site for 601xl --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Danny Offill" Can anyone tell me how to get to the frappr map for Zenith 601xl builders/owners? I've lost the url. Thanks, Danny ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:39 AM PST US From: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com> Subject: Re: Zenith-List: frappr web site for 601xl --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com> http://www.frappr.com/zenith601 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Danny Offill" To: Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 11:29 AM Subject: Zenith-List: frappr web site for 601xl > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Danny Offill" > > Can anyone tell me how to get to the frappr map for Zenith 601xl > builders/owners? I've lost the url. > > Thanks, > Danny > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:00:55 AM PST US From: JERICKSON03E@aol.com Subject: Zenith-List: Master Switch 912ULS --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com List, Sometime ago there was discussion about using a switch in place of a battery solenoid in the elect system. Have searched the archives, not found the info on what switch works for a 701 day VFR type of elect system. Help please. Jerry ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:02:14 AM PST US From: "Larry Whitlow" Subject: Zenith-List: XL PLans / Assembly Guide Question Elevator Trim Tab Install --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Whitlow" Hi all Long time listner. First Time Caller..... Oh wait this isn't the radio.... anyway I'm building a 601XL from the kit and I'm current;y working on Drawing Page 6-T-6 Elevator Trim Tab Dated 8/05 assembly guide pages 6-T-6 6 thru 12 dated 6/05 I've laid out the cutout in the bottom skin for the Ray Allen Servo and laid out the tab pushrod lines and the hole in the trailing edge for the horn to move through. Also laid out the Pushrod Line and the 140mm from the trailing edge line on the top skin The assembly guide explains how to position the servo and drill the holes to rivet the servo to the underside of the top skin but something seems amiss If you have the pushrod and the servo arm lined up the servo is not centered in the bottom skin cutout. The servo is offset inboard from the hole roughly 30 MM towards the center rib of the elevator. Some of the pictures in the assembly guide show the servo centered in the hole and some are unclear Only one picture even shows the center rib in the elevator. It will all fit as drawn, but the servo is close to the rib (not an issue) and the access cover is cloes to the rivet line of the rib (>10mm) (probably dosen't matter) The photo guide show the cover but not the rib. I intend to install it as per the drawings but I thought I'd ask I suspect the Photo Guide is using pictures from the older Trim Tab that was much smaller and the servo was mounted further inboard. Comments? Observations All are welcome Larry Whitlow Valparaiso, IN 601XL Kit Rudder Done Horz Stab Done Elevator 90% ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:39:38 AM PST US From: NYTerminat@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com Congratulations Dave!! I hope to be joining you in my 1st flight in my 701 next week Bob Spudis N701ZX do not archive In a message dated 1/15/2006 9:47:26 AM Eastern Standard Time, z4t143@hotmail.com writes: was an awesome day at Greensfield (M71)! It was First Flight Day for our CH-801 project plane. Check out our photos at: http://community.webshots.com/album/543299558OVHjOs Dave Zilz N143ZT Greensfield - Hangar 17 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:31:32 PM PST US From: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Subject: Re: Zenith-List: 601xl canopy lock --> Zenith-List message posted by: JAPhillipsGA@aol.com Thanks Jim, I will check them out, Bill ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:05 PM PST US From: "Al Young" Subject: Re: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Al Young" Dave- Congratulations on your first flight!!!! Your 801 looks great. Hope all future flights are even better. Al Young 601XL ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:29:04 PM PST US From: Michael Valentine Subject: Re: Zenith-List: XL PLans / Assembly Guide Question Elevator Trim Tab Install --> Zenith-List message posted by: Michael Valentine On 1/15/06, Larry Whitlow wrote: > --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Larry Whitlow" > The assembly guide explains how to position the servo and drill the holes to > rivet the servo to the underside of the top skin but something seems amiss Larry - I recently experienced the same thing. I called the factory (afterwards) to ask if I had done something wrong and they said it was fine. He said that the real goal of the cutout is not to work on the servo or even inspect the connection, but just to get it inside. Although that seems a bit silly to me - why not just shift the hole a bit so that you can do both - I was reassured that I had done it correctly. Obviously if you change your mind and decide to move the inspection plate, I would get it signed off by the factory. Otherwise, you are seeing it correctly and that is just the way it is! Good luck, Michael Valentine 601XL - tail/ailerons/flaps complete - working on wing. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:50:35 PM PST US From: "Roger Venables" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roger Venables" Dave Congratulations & great pictures I am especially interested as my tail number is N143TZ: some coincidence Like to see more details of your flight Roger Venables CH-701 N143TZ Working on wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Zilz Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 5:52 AM Subject: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Zilz" Today was an awesome day at Greensfield (M71)! It was First Flight Day for our CH-801 project plane. Check out our photos at: http://community.webshots.com/album/543299558OVHjOs Dave Zilz N143ZT Greensfield - Hangar 17 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:54:33 PM PST US From: "Roger Venables" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: Master Switch 912ULS --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roger Venables" Jerry I got the switch recommended by Bob Nuckolls : AeroElectric Connection S700-2-5 switch Get it from http://www.bandc.biz/ Roger Venables CH-701 N143TZ Working on wings -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of JERICKSON03E@aol.com Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: Zenith-List: Master Switch 912ULS --> Zenith-List message posted by: JERICKSON03E@aol.com List, Sometime ago there was discussion about using a switch in place of a battery solenoid in the elect system. Have searched the archives, not found the info on what switch works for a 701 day VFR type of elect system. Help please. Jerry ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:34:44 PM PST US From: "Zodie Rocket" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: frappr web site for 601xl --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" Start at top of www.ch601.org Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Danny Offill Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 12:29 PM Subject: Zenith-List: frappr web site for 601xl --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Danny Offill" Can anyone tell me how to get to the frappr map for Zenith 601xl builders/owners? I've lost the url. Thanks, Danny -- 1/14/2006 -- 1/14/2006 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:16:55 PM PST US From: "Jerry Latimer" Subject: RE: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jerry Latimer" Congratulations. Jerry Latimer 601 HDS -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Zilz Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 6:52 AM Subject: Zenith-List: N143ZT - First Flight Day 14 Jan 2006 --> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Zilz" Today was an awesome day at Greensfield (M71)! It was First Flight Day for our CH-801 project plane. Check out our photos at: http://community.webshots.com/album/543299558OVHjOs Dave Zilz N143ZT Greensfield - Hangar 17 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 08:35:17 PM PST US From: doug kandle Subject: Zenith-List: Jab 2200 on 701 --> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle Yesterday a couple of people who stopped by to look at my progress on my 701 asked what engine I was planning. When I told them I planned to use the Jabiru 2200 they said that they had heard that there was a potential problem using that engine. With the 3300 RPM engine speed, the Jabiru required a shorter prop than a Rotax. Their argument is that with a shorter prop the Jabiru would not work as well as a Rotax (using a longer prop) because less of the prop extends beyond the cowling. Note: My calculations are with the Rotax running at 5800 RPM and a 2.43 gear box the prop is only turning 2380. Has anyone else heard this from a reliable source? Has anyone experienced any issues with the Jabiru on a 701?