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1. 04:19 AM - Hole punch (Brett Hanley)
2. 04:48 AM - Wash Primer (crvsecretary@aol.com)
3. 05:01 AM - Re: has anyone dimpled their XL? Dimpled Vs. Raised rivets (Zodie Rocket)
4. 07:31 AM - Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
5. 08:23 AM - Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight (Craig Moore)
6. 01:53 PM - Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks (doug kandle)
7. 02:27 PM - Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight (Jean-Paul Roy)
8. 02:38 PM - Re: 701 cork (Zed Smith)
9. 03:15 PM - Re: Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks (NYTerminat@aol.com)
10. 03:22 PM - Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight (NYTerminat@aol.com)
11. 03:42 PM - N701ZX 1st flight (NYTerminat@aol.com)
12. 03:48 PM - Re: Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks (Robin Bellach)
13. 04:15 PM - Re: Re: 701 cork (Roland Smith)
14. 05:14 PM - Sound proof and finish panels (Larry McFarland)
15. 05:23 PM - Re: Sound proof and finish panels (AZFlyer)
16. 05:33 PM - Re: N701ZX 1st flight (n801bh@netzero.com)
17. 06:03 PM - Re: Sound proof and finish panels (William J. Naumuk)
18. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: Sound proof and finish panels (cgalley)
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Brett Hanley <bretttdc@yahoo.com>
I have the Grizzly version. Works great! Save the
twenty dollars and go to a pawn shop to buy a cheap,
light Skill or Black and Decker 3/8 non reversing
drill instead. Get two and you will rarely have to
change the bit.
Just curios,why cant you use an aircraft hole punch to
make the rivit holes.It seems like it would eliminate
de-burring.Forgive me if this topic has been covered
in the past.
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: crvsecretary@aol.com
Fellow Listers:
After I attended the Zenith rudder workshop, I came away with lots of ideas and
inspiration; one of the new exposures I had was with the Cortec wash primer.
After unsuccessfully trying to buy this stuff in small quantities (the local
rep was VERY willing to sell me a railroad-car load!) I researched and purchased
a 5 gallon pail of wash primer from an industrial coatings manufacturer here
in New England.
As I continue to build my 601, I've decided my location here in southern Connecticut
is just a bit too close to salt water to be comfortable with wash primer
and I'm going to continue to spray conventional zinc primer. So I have a 5 gallon
unopened pail of low-VOC wash primer available !!
Feel free to email me at
crvsecretary@aol.com
and I'll send a data sheet and MSDS sheet if requested to anyone interested. I'm
asking $100 or best offer (plus shipping) for the pail.
Best Regards,
Tracy Smith
N458XL (reserved)
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | has anyone dimpled their XL? Dimpled Vs. Raised rivets |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Phillip, you could most certainly be right, my numbers may be off. I'm
not a designer, and to work through the math involved would require more
asprin then I would care to take. So, I got the numbers from Chris
Heintz and though he could possibly be wrong I tend to believe him when
he says that the speed gain is minimal for the work involved.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Condon,
Philip M.
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2006 8:25 AM
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: has anyone dimpled their XL? Dimpled Vs.
Raised rivets
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Condon, Philip M."
<pcondon@mitre.org>
Mark, your numbers are off. Mooney aircraft tried to use the less labor
intensive method of using raised rivets heads on some Mooney's produced
by Butler/Avstar in the early to mid 60's. On the wing from Leading
edge to spar they used raised head rivets in addition to other frontal
area(s). Speed loss was dramatic at over 10 knots indicated. Later
Mooney's went back to the countersunk rivets in the critical air flow
areas. Mooneys cruse at 160 knots. The Zeniths certainly less, but I
would expect a larger difference then what you stated based on the
Mooney story. It's quite easy to back (face) a countersunk rivet by
shooting the tail and not the face of a rivet. Having built two RV's I
can say that. Is it necessary on a Zenith..that depends. Certainly not
(IMHO) for my 701. Other builders of faster Zeniths may want think this
out with the facts. (BTW, extra fuel capability is a "speed mod" that
many pilots don't think of.)
Time: 04:23:20 PM PST US
From: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
Subject: RE: Zenith-List: has anyone dimpled their XL?
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Zodie Rocket" <zodierocket@hsfx.ca>
The effect of flat riveting over domed heads is 1/4 mph gain on speeds
below 200mph. IS the time worth it on an XL ? I doubt it, but if you
want to do it for looks then knock yourself out.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
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1/16/2006
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1/16/2006
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| Subject: | Crosswind - The Last Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis)" <frank.hinde@hp.com>
Wow Dave, I am so glad your OK.
Of course here come the "Monday morning quarterbacks" but we all really
want to know what went wrong.
If I may here are a few thoughts for your investigation....After getting
over your amazement at still being alive...:)
What engine was this and did it have a mechanical fuel pump?
Was just the mechanical pump runing at the time of fuel pressure loss?
I presume the electric pump ran when you turned it on?
Where in the system was the electric pump?
OK...my first suspicion is that you had a blocked vent tube to your
tanks...Do you have one vent for each tank?
Did you vapour lock the mechanical pump?.....If the electric pump is
near the firewall you could have vapour locked that too...The argument
being that say you had a restriction in the fuel supply...sucked on the
fuel with the mechanical pump, boiled the fuel and essentially filled
the supply line with vapour....It is feasable that when you switched
tanks, the pumps could not purge the vapour from the lines.
How about an air leak to the supply side of the pumps doing a similar
thing?
Anyway, just a thought and is partly why I'm keen on getting pumps close
to the source. i.e tanks to avoid sucking on fuel.
All the best
Frank
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Zilz
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 6:25 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Crosswind - The Last Flight
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Dave Zilz" <z4t143@hotmail.com>
My Friends and Family -
Today was the day we pilots all anticipate, but are never really ready
for.
At 4000 ft and 3-5 miles east of Greensfield, Crosswind N143ZT lost all
fuel pressure and the engine stopped. Although I could see the airport,
I was too far to make the runway and had to select a field.
After selecting the field, I tried to start the engine several times,
changed fuel tanks, turned on the electric fuel pump, followed all the
procedures, but still no fuel pressure, and hence, no fuel to the
engine.
Unfortunately, there was a tree row at the edge of the field and power
lines above the trees, which I didn't see until it was too late, I chose
the trees instead of the power line.
The result was that I walked away without a scratch (a miracle), but
Crosswind is ... well see for yourself.
In case you're wondering, there was plenty of fuel still on the plane
and after I collected my thoughts, I tried the fuel pump again on the
ground and it produced fuel pressure. Additional investigation will
hopefully define what caused the original problem.
Following is a copy of some text from our website and the reason that we
call our plane "Crosswind". Today, I am convinced that "Cross Control"
was in full force:
"Cross Control" is a technique that some pilots use to keep the nose of
the airplane pointed straight down the runway when the wind is trying to
blow the plane off course. Dropping the windward wing and applying
opposite rudder feels un-natural at first, but with practice becomes a
technique that pilots trust in to bring them a perfect landing even
during rough weather. Our family applies another form of "Cross
Control" to hold course even when winds of life try to blow us away from
our intended direction. We use the Cross of Jesus Christ.
-DTBR
Life is filled with peaks and valleys. Our reaction to each defines who
we are. This past week I have had both, peaks and valleys. I have been
defined by the name that was given to me at my Baptism. I am a
Christian. Today, Christ was there to protect my body. Although my
spirit is bruised by this disappointment, He is here now and will be
here in the future to carry me through this disappointment and on to new
mountain top experiences.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Craig Moore <moorecomp@yahoo.com>
Dave,
I read your post and was saddened by Crosswinds
incident. I was also joyed by the love you have for
Christ and the willingness to share with us. As I have
followed the list, I have visited your website and saw
the progress that was made on your project. From the
beginning, it was evident that Crosswind was a family
project and was bringing much joy and togetherness to
your family. We do not know why God allows things to
happen, but we should never question his methods. We
see only a small part of the big picture and cannot
comprehend it all. If it was only to have time
together and memories to share, it is more than we
deserve. I will be praying for you and your family and
wish you the best, whatever you decide to do.
Hopefully, Crosswind will take you to the air again.
Please keep us informed as to the findings.
In Christ,
Craig Moore
> My Friends and Family -
>
> Today was the day we pilots all anticipate, but are
> never really ready for.
>
> At 4000 ft and 3-5 miles east of Greensfield,
> Crosswind N143ZT lost all fuel
> pressure and the engine stopped. Although I could
> see the airport, I was too
> far to make the runway and had to select a field.
>
> After selecting the field, I tried to start the
> engine several times, changed
> fuel tanks, turned on the electric fuel pump,
> followed all the procedures,
> but still no fuel pressure, and hence, no fuel to
> the engine.
>
> Unfortunately, there was a tree row at the edge of
> the field and power lines
> above the trees, which I didn't see until it was too
> late, I chose the trees
> instead of the power line.
>
> The result was that I walked away without a scratch
> (a miracle), but
> Crosswind is ... well see for yourself.
>
> In case you're wondering, there was plenty of fuel
> still on the plane and
> after I collected my thoughts, I tried the fuel pump
> again on the ground and it
> produced fuel pressure. Additional investigation
> will hopefully define what
> caused the original problem.
>
> Following is a copy of some text from our website
> and the reason that we call
> our plane "Crosswind". Today, I am convinced that
> "Cross Control" was in
> full force:
>
> "Cross Control" is a technique that some pilots use
> to keep the nose of the
> airplane pointed straight down the runway when the
> wind is trying to blow the
> plane off course. Dropping the windward wing and
> applying opposite rudder
> feels un-natural at first, but with practice becomes
> a technique that pilots trust
> in to bring them a perfect landing even during rough
> weather. Our family
> applies another form of "Cross Control" to hold
> course even when winds of life
> try to blow us away from our intended direction. We
> use the Cross of Jesus
> Christ.
> -DTBR
>
>
> Life is filled with peaks and valleys. Our reaction
> to each defines who we
> are. This past week I have had both, peaks and
> valleys. I have been defined
> by the name that was given to me at my Baptism. I
> am a Christian. Today,
> Christ was there to protect my body. Although my
> spirit is bruised by this
> disappointment, He is here now and will be here in
> the future to carry me through
> this disappointment and on to new mountain top
> experiences.
>
> Dave
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| Subject: | Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
When I look at the drawings and the pictures in the building guide,
it appears that I am to place 4 strips total on the fuel tank. At
the front and back, both top and bottom. The strips run from outside
edge to inside edge. Then I put strips on the tank support channel
(7-V11-4K) (6 of those for each tank) and two strips on the rear
channel that is behind the tank (on 7-V11-2K).
That is not a whole lot of the 50' spool of cork provided with the kit.
There was a thread on this site where a couple of people said that
they used more cork than the 50' spool. And I don't see how that
could be the case.
Are we supposed to put more than the 4 strips on the tank? Did
some/all of you try to cover or at least put a bunch of strips on the
bottom of the tank?
Doug Kandle
CH701
Boise ID
Rudder & Horiz. Stab. done Working on 2nd Wing
Jabiru 2200
From complete kit
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| Subject: | Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Jean-Paul Roy" <jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca>
Dave, it is sooo sad these things happen. I read that you were at 4000. That
altitude should have give you plenty of time to plan choose a good landing
spot.
For the time being, let's forget about what went wrong in the system.You
will have all kinds of time to figure it all.
You're at 4000 and the engine quits. This is no time to find what's wrong,
it is time to find a suitable spot to land the baby without harming it. And
the general rule of thumb applies here: FLY THE PLANE whatever happens.
This what you probably did; but you were short on final and hit a tree.
Looking at your pictures, I can see a nice and long flat field BEHIND your
airplane.
I wonder if it would have been more suitable instead.
I'm not pointing finger at no one (I know when I point a finger, I've got 3
pointing at myself).
Thank you and best of luck
Jean-Paul
> > My Friends and Family -
> >
> > Today was the day we pilots all anticipate, but are
> > never really ready for.
> >
> > At 4000 ft and 3-5 miles east of Greensfield,
> > Crosswind N143ZT lost all fuel
> > pressure and the engine stopped. Although I could
> > see the airport, I was too
> > far to make the runway and had to select a field.
> >
> > After selecting the field, I tried to start the
> > engine several times, changed
> > fuel tanks, turned on the electric fuel pump,
> > followed all the procedures,
> > but still no fuel pressure, and hence, no fuel to
> > the engine.
> >
> > Unfortunately, there was a tree row at the edge of
> > the field and power lines
> > above the trees, which I didn't see until it was too
> > late, I chose the trees
> > instead of the power line.
> >
> > The result was that I walked away without a scratch
> > (a miracle), but
> > Crosswind is ... well see for yourself.
> >
> > In case you're wondering, there was plenty of fuel
> > still on the plane and
> > after I collected my thoughts, I tried the fuel pump
> > again on the ground and it
> > produced fuel pressure. Additional investigation
> > will hopefully define what
> > caused the original problem.
> >
> > Following is a copy of some text from our website
> > and the reason that we call
> > our plane "Crosswind". Today, I am convinced that
> > "Cross Control" was in
> > full force:
> >
> > "Cross Control" is a technique that some pilots use
> > to keep the nose of the
> > airplane pointed straight down the runway when the
> > wind is trying to blow the
> > plane off course. Dropping the windward wing and
> > applying opposite rudder
> > feels un-natural at first, but with practice becomes
> > a technique that pilots trust
> > in to bring them a perfect landing even during rough
> > weather. Our family
> > applies another form of "Cross Control" to hold
> > course even when winds of life
> > try to blow us away from our intended direction. We
> > use the Cross of Jesus
> > Christ.
> > -DTBR
> >
> >
> > Life is filled with peaks and valleys. Our reaction
> > to each defines who we
> > are. This past week I have had both, peaks and
> > valleys. I have been defined
> > by the name that was given to me at my Baptism. I
> > am a Christian. Today,
> > Christ was there to protect my body. Although my
> > spirit is bruised by this
> > disappointment, He is here now and will be here in
> > the future to carry me through
> > this disappointment and on to new mountain top
> > experiences.
> >
> > Dave
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: Zed Smith <zsmith3rd@earthlink.net>
Doug,
It has been some time since I crossed that bridge, but I followed the plans. Then
after walking around the thing for a mile or two it just looked like there
was room for, and a need for, more cork.
I found a hardware store selling sheet cork from a roll in 36-inch width, any length.
In the areas where a piece larger than just a narrow strip would fit,
I inserted cork.
Actually, some pieces were glued to the tank, some to the wing.....whichever fit
best.
Bottom line was that I attempted to prevent any chafing/rubbing between tank and
wing.
Some "craft" stores handle cork in sheets, and in several thicknesses.
Regards,
Zed/701/R912/90+%/etc do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Doug
In addition to the four strips shown, I ran it around the perimeter of the
bottom and top of the tank. Also around the filler neck and drain. Save a small
amount for your coolant overflow bottle.
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 1/19/2006 4:55:11 PM Eastern Standard Time,
d_kandle@velocitus.net writes:
--> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
When I look at the drawings and the pictures in the building guide,
it appears that I am to place 4 strips total on the fuel tank. At
the front and back, both top and bottom. The strips run from outside
edge to inside edge. Then I put strips on the tank support channel
(7-V11-4K) (6 of those for each tank) and two strips on the rear
channel that is behind the tank (on 7-V11-2K).
That is not a whole lot of the 50' spool of cork provided with the kit.
There was a thread on this site where a couple of people said that
they used more cork than the 50' spool. And I don't see how that
could be the case.
Are we supposed to put more than the 4 strips on the tank? Did
some/all of you try to cover or at least put a bunch of strips on the
bottom of the tank?
Doug Kandle
CH701
Boise ID
Rudder & Horiz. Stab. done Working on 2nd Wing
Jabiru 2200
>From complete kit
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| Subject: | Re: Crosswind - The Last Flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
Where did you see the pictures?
In a message dated 1/19/2006 5:28:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,
jean-paul.roy4@tlb.sympatico.ca writes:
Looking at your pictures, I can see a nice and long flat field BEHIND your
airplane.
I wonder if it would have been more suitable instead.
I'm not pointing finger at no one (I know when I point a finger, I've got 3
pointing at myself).
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| Subject: | N701ZX 1st flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: NYTerminat@aol.com
List
Well, today was the day for my 1st flight. Quite nervous especially after
reading about Dave's last flight in his 801. All we can do is our best and trust
in the Lord.
The weather was good but the winds made it less than ideal. The plane really
weathervaned as soon as I broke ground. All went well with temps where they
should be. Only problem is I have a rigging problem as it took a fair amount of
right stick to keep it from turning left. Anyone else had this problem? Also I
have a fair amount of resistance on the ground in applying the right stick. I
know that the elevator cables tighten as you apply right stick, but I don't
remember the factory demonstrator having as much friction as mine. Any input
will be welcome.
The landing was less than spectacular as the winds were 45 degrees to the
runway and the 1st time was a go around. But 1.3 hours in the air and I am back
on the ground. No apparent leaks, just have to address this rigging.
Bob Spudis
N701ZX CH-701/912S
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| Subject: | Re: Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Robin Bellach" <601zv@ritternet.com>
I'm doing a 601, but believe it's quite similar installation. I added
extra cork figuring the extra padding is better and makes a tighter fit with
very little extra weight. In fact, in some places where the cork did not
completely fill the space, I added some addituional padding on top of it in
the form of some similar strips of thinner stuff I happened to have on hand.
----- Original Message -----
From: "doug kandle" <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
To: <Zenith-List@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 3:51 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Cork Strips 701 Fuel tanks
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: doug kandle <d_kandle@velocitus.net>
>
> When I look at the drawings and the pictures in the building guide,
> it appears that I am to place 4 strips total on the fuel tank. At
> the front and back, both top and bottom. The strips run from outside
> edge to inside edge. Then I put strips on the tank support channel
> (7-V11-4K) (6 of those for each tank) and two strips on the rear
> channel that is behind the tank (on 7-V11-2K).
> That is not a whole lot of the 50' spool of cork provided with the kit.
> There was a thread on this site where a couple of people said that
> they used more cork than the 50' spool. And I don't see how that
> could be the case.
>
> Are we supposed to put more than the 4 strips on the tank? Did
> some/all of you try to cover or at least put a bunch of strips on the
> bottom of the tank?
>
>
>
> Doug Kandle
> CH701
> Boise ID
> Rudder & Horiz. Stab. done Working on 2nd Wing
> Jabiru 2200
> From complete kit
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Zenith-List message posted by: "Roland Smith" <docponds@sover.net>
Doug,
I asked Nick a similar question a few days ago.
Should there be any support between the rear wall of the fuel tank
and the wing tank channel (7-V-11-2K)? Without such it would seem
that the tank could move fore and aft.
Nick's reply:
There should be not metal to metal contact between the tank and the
airframe.
Add cork between the back of the tank and the wing tank channel 7V11-2K. If
necessary, it is also acceptable to double up on the cork for a snug fit.
Roland Smith, Bennington Vermont CH 701 Kit, closing R. Wing
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| Subject: | Sound proof and finish panels |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
Hi guys,
I'm getting ready to disassemble the plane in a month or two to paint
and before doing that,
the interior cabin is going to be sound proofed from the firewall sides
and floor back to the seats.
Are there any opinions on which materials have worked out best and is
there an optimum finish
material for covering soundproofing? I 'm looking for proven ideas
that have satisfied the user.
Thanks again,
Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sound proof and finish panels |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
Larry,
On page 126 of their 2005 cat. ACS has a FREE booklet (20 pages) on how to soundproof
your aircraft cabin.
P/N 09-42755... I intend to call for one when the time comes.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: N701ZX 1st flight |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "n801bh@netzero.com" <n801bh@netzero.com>
Well, today was the day for my 1st flight. Quite nervous especially after
reading about Dave's last flight in his 801. All we can do is our best and trust
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Congrats to you...... Thankfully Dave is OK.. Be careful out there guys.
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
Well, today was the day for my 1st flight. Quite nervous especially after
reading about Dave's last flight in his 801. All we can do is our best and trust
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Congrats to you...... Thankfully Dave is OK.. Be careful out there guys.
BenHaas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
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| Subject: | Re: Sound proof and finish panels |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "William J. Naumuk" <billn@velocity.net>
Larry-
EAA Sport Aviation had an extensive article on soundproofing materials
and techniques last year. If you don't have access, let me know and I'll
root around through my hardcopies and scan the article for you.
Bill
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From: "Larry McFarland" <larrymc@qconline.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 8:12 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Sound proof and finish panels
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: Larry McFarland <larrymc@qconline.com>
>
> Hi guys,
> I'm getting ready to disassemble the plane in a month or two to paint
> and before doing that,
> the interior cabin is going to be sound proofed from the firewall sides
> and floor back to the seats.
> Are there any opinions on which materials have worked out best and is
> there an optimum finish
> material for covering soundproofing? I 'm looking for proven ideas
> that have satisfied the user.
> Thanks again,
>
> Larry McFarland - 601HDS at www.macsmachine.com
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sound proof and finish panels |
--> Zenith-List message posted by: "cgalley" <cgalley@qcbc.org>
Unless one can seal the cabins so that NO air can get in, sound will get in.
You can attenuate or muffle sound but it is way cheaper, easier, lighter,
just to buy a good comfortable ANR Headset which you will have to
eventually, any way. You need the Mike to talk to the tower so get a good
one. Bottom line is you can't carry enough soundproofing to make real
difference and still be able to have a good flying airplane.
Many manufacturers try, but don't succeed.
Cy Galley - Chair,
AirVenture Emergency Aircraft Repair
A Service Project of Chapter 75
EAA Safety Programs Editor - TC
EAA Sport Pilot
----- Original Message -----
From: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2006 7:23 PM
Subject: Zenith-List: Re: Sound proof and finish panels
> --> Zenith-List message posted by: "AZFlyer" <millrML@AOL.com>
>
> Larry,
> On page 126 of their 2005 cat. ACS has a FREE booklet (20 pages) on how to
> soundproof your aircraft cabin.
>
> P/N 09-42755... I intend to call for one when the time comes.
>
> Mike
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=5372#5372
>
>
>
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